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OK that song topped the charts in 1983 - it was a hit more than a decade before this movie was made. Gotta love an encyclopedia written by 13 year olds - the world didn't exist before 1993, eh?
It is funny that nobody notices that the characters in this movie are similar to those of How to Marry a Millionaire, with Swayze obviously playing Lauren Bacall, Leguizamo taking over Marylin Monroe and Snipes (arguably) Betty Grable. I am tempted with adding such a statement (which would then be immediately removed as original research... :-)) Adam Mirowski ( talk) 10:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
"The drag queens become stranded in the town for the weekend as they wait for the replacement spare part for their car to arrive. Whilst there, they are confronted by the town's small-mindedness, though it does not focus on their transgender identities but rather, their status as females, "
I prefer to copy-edit and can't really do a proper rewrite of this sentence, but it's fully inaccurate. The characters are not transgendered, and should not be referred to as such. They may be transvestites and are accurately described as drag queens. (And these are not the same thing either.) Transgendered persons are (or feel they are) born into the wrong gendered body, and they behave and dress as the gender they believe they are, not the opposite gender. Transvestites dress as the opposite gender, generally because it brings them sexual satisfaction. Drag queens perform dressed as the opposite gender. Can someone please rewrite this sentence to not say that these characters are transgendered? Thanks! Spookiewon ( talk) 03:04, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
From what I remember there was some implication that Patrick Swayze's character was (or was coming to realize that she was) a trans woman, and not simply a gay man in drag. In general I'd like to emphasize that this whole topic is extremely complex. There is a lot of crossover and ambiguity. The terminology was never cut-and-dry, especially back then. Many drag queens who identified/classified as men later came out as trans women, as still happens today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1010:B046:958:9552:425E:3ACE:6273 ( talk) 07:17, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Just an FYI that transvestite is an outdated term that many now consider offensive. Squishyg ( talk) 03:53, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
The editor who instigated the recent edit war has posted at WP:RSN#LISTING IN FILM CREDITS about the issue. I'm adding a citation directly to the film, as the credits verify the inclusion of this song. No-one seems to have been contesting that it appears in the film except whomever added the CN tag, so it seems this would not have been a problem had someone engaged with the new editor in a less haughty manner than warning templates. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Agreed... and thanks Blueboar ( talk) 19:10, 1 March 2018 (UTC) Blueboar ( talk) 19:10, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Someone keeps making incorrect edits saying Sony/Columbia produced when Universal did. Please ensure this stops. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TPalkovitz ( talk • contribs) 01:26, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
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First Plot graph, change "they initially refer to him simply as a "boy in a dress" rather than as a fully-fledged drag queen)." to "they initially refer to her simply as a "boy in a dress" rather than as a fully-fledged drag queen)."
Second graph, change "Dollard discovers Vida is not a woman, Vida strikes him, and he is knocked unconscious." to "Dollard discovers Vida is a transgender woman, Vida strikes him, and he is knocked unconscious."
Fifth graph, change "Meanwhile, Sheriff Dollard is ridiculed by his colleagues, who believe he was beaten up by a girl." to "Meanwhile, Sheriff Dollard is ridiculed by his colleagues, for having been beaten up by a girl." or "woman."
I believe it's an open question whether "transgender woman" or "drag queen" is a more appropriate term for the second change, but due to the context (these events describe the characters during a long term road trip during which they were either continuously performing drag, or they were comfortably (although fabulously) merely living as transgender women, although the term was not in popular use at the time. I believe the first and third changes, are, however, correct. 143.59.127.64 ( talk) 03:26, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
is the photo of Julie Newmar really iconic? or is it totemic? 84.71.45.82 ( talk) 10:02, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
It's mentioned that the Australian Film "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert" was also a 'cross-country road trip' but that's not the case, they were literally going to the center of Australian. Alice Springs was the planned destination and they were not stranded there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.81.71.237 ( talk) 21:55, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Creditable start for your first GA nomination. You have several kinds of issues: some copy changes, a threadbare Release section that needs beefing up, and some overlong quotes (and a citation needing additional support). Ping me when done or if you need help. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Did you know? If you fancy doing so, I always have plenty of GA nominees to review. Just look for the all-uppercase titles in the Television section. Reviews always appreciated.
Kidron jumped at the opportunity to make a movie in America — particularly since she saw To Wong Foo as a uniquely American story.
The 1995 cult classic "To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar" starred Wesley Snipes and Patrick Swayze in a tale of drag queens on a cross-country trip, and their beat-up Cadillac eventually landed on Upper Mountain Avenue.Partial confirm: is there a source connecting Montclair to the Bala Cynwyd scenes?
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for AP stories like this one? Earwig runs hot because of the length of the title. It kind of justifies my feeling that some of the quotes are too long.
The film poster has an NFUR and even alt text. Great stuff. Would there be any appropriate images of the actors or the drag people who made cameo appearances?
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From the article:
OK that song topped the charts in 1983 - it was a hit more than a decade before this movie was made. Gotta love an encyclopedia written by 13 year olds - the world didn't exist before 1993, eh?
It is funny that nobody notices that the characters in this movie are similar to those of How to Marry a Millionaire, with Swayze obviously playing Lauren Bacall, Leguizamo taking over Marylin Monroe and Snipes (arguably) Betty Grable. I am tempted with adding such a statement (which would then be immediately removed as original research... :-)) Adam Mirowski ( talk) 10:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
"The drag queens become stranded in the town for the weekend as they wait for the replacement spare part for their car to arrive. Whilst there, they are confronted by the town's small-mindedness, though it does not focus on their transgender identities but rather, their status as females, "
I prefer to copy-edit and can't really do a proper rewrite of this sentence, but it's fully inaccurate. The characters are not transgendered, and should not be referred to as such. They may be transvestites and are accurately described as drag queens. (And these are not the same thing either.) Transgendered persons are (or feel they are) born into the wrong gendered body, and they behave and dress as the gender they believe they are, not the opposite gender. Transvestites dress as the opposite gender, generally because it brings them sexual satisfaction. Drag queens perform dressed as the opposite gender. Can someone please rewrite this sentence to not say that these characters are transgendered? Thanks! Spookiewon ( talk) 03:04, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
From what I remember there was some implication that Patrick Swayze's character was (or was coming to realize that she was) a trans woman, and not simply a gay man in drag. In general I'd like to emphasize that this whole topic is extremely complex. There is a lot of crossover and ambiguity. The terminology was never cut-and-dry, especially back then. Many drag queens who identified/classified as men later came out as trans women, as still happens today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1010:B046:958:9552:425E:3ACE:6273 ( talk) 07:17, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Just an FYI that transvestite is an outdated term that many now consider offensive. Squishyg ( talk) 03:53, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
The editor who instigated the recent edit war has posted at WP:RSN#LISTING IN FILM CREDITS about the issue. I'm adding a citation directly to the film, as the credits verify the inclusion of this song. No-one seems to have been contesting that it appears in the film except whomever added the CN tag, so it seems this would not have been a problem had someone engaged with the new editor in a less haughty manner than warning templates. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Agreed... and thanks Blueboar ( talk) 19:10, 1 March 2018 (UTC) Blueboar ( talk) 19:10, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Someone keeps making incorrect edits saying Sony/Columbia produced when Universal did. Please ensure this stops. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TPalkovitz ( talk • contribs) 01:26, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
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First Plot graph, change "they initially refer to him simply as a "boy in a dress" rather than as a fully-fledged drag queen)." to "they initially refer to her simply as a "boy in a dress" rather than as a fully-fledged drag queen)."
Second graph, change "Dollard discovers Vida is not a woman, Vida strikes him, and he is knocked unconscious." to "Dollard discovers Vida is a transgender woman, Vida strikes him, and he is knocked unconscious."
Fifth graph, change "Meanwhile, Sheriff Dollard is ridiculed by his colleagues, who believe he was beaten up by a girl." to "Meanwhile, Sheriff Dollard is ridiculed by his colleagues, for having been beaten up by a girl." or "woman."
I believe it's an open question whether "transgender woman" or "drag queen" is a more appropriate term for the second change, but due to the context (these events describe the characters during a long term road trip during which they were either continuously performing drag, or they were comfortably (although fabulously) merely living as transgender women, although the term was not in popular use at the time. I believe the first and third changes, are, however, correct. 143.59.127.64 ( talk) 03:26, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
is the photo of Julie Newmar really iconic? or is it totemic? 84.71.45.82 ( talk) 10:02, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
It's mentioned that the Australian Film "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert" was also a 'cross-country road trip' but that's not the case, they were literally going to the center of Australian. Alice Springs was the planned destination and they were not stranded there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.81.71.237 ( talk) 21:55, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Creditable start for your first GA nomination. You have several kinds of issues: some copy changes, a threadbare Release section that needs beefing up, and some overlong quotes (and a citation needing additional support). Ping me when done or if you need help. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Did you know? If you fancy doing so, I always have plenty of GA nominees to review. Just look for the all-uppercase titles in the Television section. Reviews always appreciated.
Kidron jumped at the opportunity to make a movie in America — particularly since she saw To Wong Foo as a uniquely American story.
The 1995 cult classic "To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar" starred Wesley Snipes and Patrick Swayze in a tale of drag queens on a cross-country trip, and their beat-up Cadillac eventually landed on Upper Mountain Avenue.Partial confirm: is there a source connecting Montclair to the Bala Cynwyd scenes?
|agency=
for AP stories like this one? Earwig runs hot because of the length of the title. It kind of justifies my feeling that some of the quotes are too long.
The film poster has an NFUR and even alt text. Great stuff. Would there be any appropriate images of the actors or the drag people who made cameo appearances?