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The Wizard Of Oz premiered in the San Francisco Bay Area at the Oakland Paramount, on August 17, 1939, the same day it premiered in New York at Loew's Capitol Theatre. This can be confirmed by newspaper ads in the Oakland Tribune, Bancroft Library; and by Oakland Paramount advertising cards. |
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The result of the move request was: Consensus to move. Supporters' argument that the film is the primary topic for this article is based on salient facts, such as the unusually high number of view on the dab page and the film gets many times more view than the book, not to mention that this is the name of the film and not the title of the book. Opposers' argument that the film is not the primary topic is based solely on the opinion that having that many more views is still not enough. Finally, Supporters point out that the bottom line is the vast majority of users searching with "The Wizard of Oz" will be taken directly to the article they seek, rather than redirected to the dab page as they are now, and the minority will be just one (hatnote) click away, just like they are now when taken to the dab page where they are one (dab page) click away. So the move benefits the majority with no cost to the minority. ( non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 06:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
The Wizard of Oz (1939 film) → The Wizard of Oz – The film, The Wizard of Oz (1939 film), and the novel, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, are sufficient distinct from each other to fall under WP:SMALLDETAILS. The original novel was not published as The Wizard of Oz (according to the article, it has sometimes been reprinted with the film's title due to the film's popularity, meaning the publishers wanted to associate themselves with the film as a companion piece, which only proves that the film is more widely associated with that term) and is thus WP:NATURALly disambiguated; this is similar to The Fellowship of the Ring (the book) vs. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (the film), or The Shawshank Redemption (the film) vs. Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption (the book).
Perhaps a more excellent example would be Nineteen Eighty-Four, which is not titled 1984 (novel) despite often being reprinted and known as such. The book and the year are both equally and highly notable, but because of the differences in their names, they are disambiguated NATURALly. Due to The Wizard of Oz's cultural impact and significance, being one of the most influential films of all time, comparable to that of Nineteen Eighty-Four, it can easily be regarded as the primary topic for the exact term "The Wizard of Oz", and this is reinforced by pageviews. A Google Search for "The Wizard of Oz" surfaces results almost exclusively for the film. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 19:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 🌺 Cremastra ( talk) 21:58, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
by the late 20th century the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz had become more familiar than the book on which it was based). Look up "The Wizard of Oz" on Google Books and Amazon, and you'll find that the shortened name almost always refers to the film while the extended form almost always refers to the book. It's been 85 since the film was released; if this distinction hasn't changed now, it's unlikely to change anytime soon. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 02:57, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
No strong opinion on this, but how do editors feel about this being categorized as a black-and-white film? Parts of it apparently were filmed in black-and-white, though obviously the majority of the film is in color, and the category has no notes regarding how it's intended to be used. DonIago ( talk) 13:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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The Wizard Of Oz premiered in the San Francisco Bay Area at the Oakland Paramount, on August 17, 1939, the same day it premiered in New York at Loew's Capitol Theatre. This can be confirmed by newspaper ads in the Oakland Tribune, Bancroft Library; and by Oakland Paramount advertising cards. |
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The result of the move request was: Consensus to move. Supporters' argument that the film is the primary topic for this article is based on salient facts, such as the unusually high number of view on the dab page and the film gets many times more view than the book, not to mention that this is the name of the film and not the title of the book. Opposers' argument that the film is not the primary topic is based solely on the opinion that having that many more views is still not enough. Finally, Supporters point out that the bottom line is the vast majority of users searching with "The Wizard of Oz" will be taken directly to the article they seek, rather than redirected to the dab page as they are now, and the minority will be just one (hatnote) click away, just like they are now when taken to the dab page where they are one (dab page) click away. So the move benefits the majority with no cost to the minority. ( non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 06:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
The Wizard of Oz (1939 film) → The Wizard of Oz – The film, The Wizard of Oz (1939 film), and the novel, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, are sufficient distinct from each other to fall under WP:SMALLDETAILS. The original novel was not published as The Wizard of Oz (according to the article, it has sometimes been reprinted with the film's title due to the film's popularity, meaning the publishers wanted to associate themselves with the film as a companion piece, which only proves that the film is more widely associated with that term) and is thus WP:NATURALly disambiguated; this is similar to The Fellowship of the Ring (the book) vs. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (the film), or The Shawshank Redemption (the film) vs. Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption (the book).
Perhaps a more excellent example would be Nineteen Eighty-Four, which is not titled 1984 (novel) despite often being reprinted and known as such. The book and the year are both equally and highly notable, but because of the differences in their names, they are disambiguated NATURALly. Due to The Wizard of Oz's cultural impact and significance, being one of the most influential films of all time, comparable to that of Nineteen Eighty-Four, it can easily be regarded as the primary topic for the exact term "The Wizard of Oz", and this is reinforced by pageviews. A Google Search for "The Wizard of Oz" surfaces results almost exclusively for the film. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 19:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 🌺 Cremastra ( talk) 21:58, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
by the late 20th century the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz had become more familiar than the book on which it was based). Look up "The Wizard of Oz" on Google Books and Amazon, and you'll find that the shortened name almost always refers to the film while the extended form almost always refers to the book. It's been 85 since the film was released; if this distinction hasn't changed now, it's unlikely to change anytime soon. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 02:57, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
No strong opinion on this, but how do editors feel about this being categorized as a black-and-white film? Parts of it apparently were filmed in black-and-white, though obviously the majority of the film is in color, and the category has no notes regarding how it's intended to be used. DonIago ( talk) 13:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)