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Did you know... that The Ugly Black Bird, a Polish book that discredited the autobiographical value of
Kosiński's The Painted Bird, initially received reviews that were "more negative than favourable"?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The article needs more clarity. From the article, it doesn't appear that Kosinski ever claimed that the characters in the book represent the "Polish nation". Where does the interpretation that his book "unfairly slanders the Polish nation" come from? (
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c) buidhe06:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
To clarify, I think that ALT0 as written should not be accepted because of unnecessary and subjective modifiers, ie what differentiates a negative review from a very negative one? (
t ·
c) buidhe20:32, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Z1720, I was not pinged, so I did not see the message (my watchlist is so cluttered it is next to unusable...). The hook does not mention "Polish nation". and in either case, I see
User:Buidhecopyedited a relevant sentence in the article (thank you), so the problem (if there was any in the first place) seems fixed. I see ALT0a was proposed removing the word "very", which seems reasonable - I am fine with that. Just in case, I'll propose ALT1 using the quote directly from the cited source. As for negative reviews, this is clearly attributed to a reliable source: "According to Monika Adamczyk-Garbowska, Polish reviews were "more negative than favourable".[8]: 293" and refs are given above, so I do not see a problem. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here00:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)reply
ALT0b: ... that The Ugly Black Bird, a Polish book that discredited the autobiographical value of
Kosiński's The Painted Bird, initially received reviews that were "more negative than favourable"?
This is the oldest unreviewed nomination and I need a QPQ, so I'm reviewing. Long enough, new enough. ALT0b is technically short enough, interesting, and appears to be cited to refs 1 and 8, one of which is offline and the other is in Polish, so AGF. No maintenance templates found or required; though the lead is a bit short, I think it escapes needing {{lead too short}}. Earwig is rightfully quiet and QPQ done. Let's roll.--Launchballer12:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)reply
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A fact from The Ugly Black Bird appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 May 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that The Ugly Black Bird, a Polish book that discredited the autobiographical value of
Kosiński's The Painted Bird, initially received reviews that were "more negative than favourable"?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article needs more clarity. From the article, it doesn't appear that Kosinski ever claimed that the characters in the book represent the "Polish nation". Where does the interpretation that his book "unfairly slanders the Polish nation" come from? (
t ·
c) buidhe06:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
To clarify, I think that ALT0 as written should not be accepted because of unnecessary and subjective modifiers, ie what differentiates a negative review from a very negative one? (
t ·
c) buidhe20:32, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Z1720, I was not pinged, so I did not see the message (my watchlist is so cluttered it is next to unusable...). The hook does not mention "Polish nation". and in either case, I see
User:Buidhecopyedited a relevant sentence in the article (thank you), so the problem (if there was any in the first place) seems fixed. I see ALT0a was proposed removing the word "very", which seems reasonable - I am fine with that. Just in case, I'll propose ALT1 using the quote directly from the cited source. As for negative reviews, this is clearly attributed to a reliable source: "According to Monika Adamczyk-Garbowska, Polish reviews were "more negative than favourable".[8]: 293" and refs are given above, so I do not see a problem. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here00:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)reply
ALT0b: ... that The Ugly Black Bird, a Polish book that discredited the autobiographical value of
Kosiński's The Painted Bird, initially received reviews that were "more negative than favourable"?
This is the oldest unreviewed nomination and I need a QPQ, so I'm reviewing. Long enough, new enough. ALT0b is technically short enough, interesting, and appears to be cited to refs 1 and 8, one of which is offline and the other is in Polish, so AGF. No maintenance templates found or required; though the lead is a bit short, I think it escapes needing {{lead too short}}. Earwig is rightfully quiet and QPQ done. Let's roll.--Launchballer12:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)reply