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The link to Cindy Pastel doesn't exist. Maybe someone could make an entry for Cindy in Wikipeida. -- Khalidabdulkhaleqabdulla 21:09, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I didn't want to just tag this non-neutral, but I have some issues with the following:
The film explored gay stereotypes without always reverting to those stereotypes just for a cheap laugh. The main characters were neither sinners, nor evil (like many gay, lesbian, and transgender characters in early film) nor perfect, saintly martyrs (i.e Philadelphia), but rather fully formed characters with strengths and flaws.
These two statements are decidedly POV. I haven't seen the film, however, and I'd like to ask/encourage someone who has to try to clean this section up just a bit. Thanks! -- S0uj1r0 08:21, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Anyone else recall this man wearing futuristic tonic suit pulling a cart or trolley of some sort running with some kinda of strobe light on an antenna on the cart? What's the deal with that? He made 2-3 appearance over the film and on one occasion Felicia attempted to say hi to him. -- Kvasir 01:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know if the musical version did open on the projected date given? If so, can they tweak the future into the past tense? Tx. Nat 15:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
"A joke, explaining where Trumpet got his name, was omitted for the film's US release, but later released on the Special Edition DVD." The article should say who Trumpet is, yes? Nat 15:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
The stage adaptation has it's own Priscilla Queen of the Desert - the Musical article. The stage adaptation content in the film article is long in comparison to film article's length. I suggest moving the bulk of the stage adaptation commentary to that article. Conrad T. Pino 10:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
What did the film win the Oscars for? Anyone know? Vauxhall1964 20:14, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes it won for costume design —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.30.255.45 ( talk) 04:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
An IP editor has recently changed the description of the three main characters. It was "three drag queens, one of whom is a transsexual and the other two are homosexuals.". It is now "three drag queens, one of whom is a heterosexual transwoman and the other two are homosexual cismen".
I'm reasonably well read, but I've never come across the terms transwoman and cismen. They may well be accurate, but I haven't ever seen such terms used to describe the characters before. I haven't looked at all the references (some are to a book I don't have), but there's no hint that those words are used in any of them.
If the terms are accurate, I guess they're doing no harm, except confusing people not close to the LGBT scene. They did look a bit odd and made up when I first saw them, so I reverted the changes, but our IP editor de-reverted with an edit summary including "huh? " and "what gives?". He/she seems fairly committed to the change. I'm not touching the changes again until we have a bit of discussion on the matter.
HiLo48 ( talk) 05:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
"Felicia" may be gay, but "Mitzi" (Hugo Weaving) is not necessarily. He has a family... not all drag queens are gay, many are in heterosexual relationships. Mitzi just wants to act as a woman, no more. No where in the film does he commit to homosexual acts. Please change it. -- 82.82.149.59 ( talk) 11:37, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
I just removed a claim that the involvement of Jason Donovan in the musical version of the film is "interesting" given the references to Kylie Minogue in the script. Firstly it is unreferenced. Also it is POV. Also, it is not really very "interesting" given that the main co-star of Donovan and Mingoue throughout their Neighbours stint, was Guy Pearce, who played a lead role in the original The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert film. Format ( talk) 20:16, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Greetings all,
Been hunting for information on the song performed in the movie. I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor in the movie had some incredible backing performance and vocals mixed in from the cast extras that were Aboriginal Australians. Was there ever an actual song rendition of this. I have the soundtrack with the original song and a remix. I would much prefer finding a copy fully produced from how it was presented in the movie itself.
Thanks to anyone who can provide me with any information on this.
Sincerely, Ham Channell
As far as I know, it was not released a version of this mix of the song you mention. However if you are interested in the original score of this movie, there is an album called "The Priscilla Companion" with the instrumental songs composed specifically for this movie by Guy Gross. I added this information on Wikipedia as you can see in (
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Adventures_of_Priscilla,_Queen_of_the_Desert&diff=610243968&oldid=610243836) But user HiLo48 deleted it allegedly that my source was uncertain, even though I added the correspondent sources but he ignored them deleting again and again. I have a mix of the song "I will Survive" with the chants you make reference to direct from the movie audio track. If you're interested contact me with your e-mail and I will share it.
Sincerely, Takeh ( talk) 05:31, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks! 2607:FEA8:80A0:1270:65C7:3438:BB07:897 ( talk) 19:41, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
The section on post-production says the following:
"On the advice of early viewers, the film was shortened and scenes such as Adam's flashback about his paedophilic uncle were cut out."
Anyone who owns the film on blu-ray will know that the stated flashback appears at 30 minutes into the movie and is not cut. Has this been reinstated on home video releases, or was it never cut in the first place? In any case this should be changed but as I don't see this information elsewhere online I'm not sure what to cite; it's easily disprovable for anyone who owns a copy of the movie. Even if the information is in the cited book, then that source must be incorrect. Is the veracity of the claim that the film was shortened on the advice of early viewers also thrown into question by this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmbroseCadwell ( talk • contribs) 00:26, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
I’m sure there was a lot of concern about the negative stereotyping of the Filipina character. It certainly upset me when I saw the film on its original release. I’m surprised it isn’t mentioned here. 49.186.57.84 ( talk) 11:41, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
How is this so?? 192.84.52.10 ( talk) 15:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
although it was later decided that an ABBA song would be more appropriate because [of] its "tacky qualities"DonQuixote ( talk) 15:51, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
@ Koavf: For now, I have reinstated the Awards table you deleted. Rather than get into an edit war, please itemise specific parts of the table you believe violate WP policies. Chrisdevelop ( talk) 07:02, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The table listing the Awards has no citations.
It was removed from the article by this edit, because it is unsourced: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Adventures_of_Priscilla%2C_Queen_of_the_Desert&diff=1156503955&oldid=1152957036
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Should the table be removed from the article as long as it is unsourced? Robert McClenon ( talk) 15:23, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The choices are to remove the unsourced table, or to retain the table. If citations are added to the table, this RFC can be closed as overtaken by events. Enter Yes or Remove or Delete in the Survey to remove the table, with a brief supporting statement. Enter No or Keep in the Survey to keep the table, with a brief supporting statement. Do not reply to other statements in the Survey. The Discussion section is provided for back-and-forth discussion.
WP:MINREF applies to what must have an inline citation, it doesn't mean that other content doesn't have to be sourced.Actually, MINREF says a little further down: "Technically, if an article contains none of these four types of material, then it is not required by any policy to name any sources at all, either as inline citations or as general references." I'm not aware of any part of WP:V that says
all content must be sourced. Could you point me to the particular passage you're thinking of? Sojourner in the earth ( talk) 19:38, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
challenged content must be sourced per WP:BURDENYes, but the content in that section hadn't been challenged until you added that tag. A valid challenge must have a policy-based reason behind it. Again, per WP:BURDEN, "When tagging or removing material for lacking an inline citation, please state your concern that it may not be possible to find a published reliable source, and the material therefore may not be verifiable." Do you have reason to believe that it may not be possible to find sources for that awards table? Have you attempted to verify any of it yourself? Sojourner in the earth ( talk) 20:35, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmissions∆ ° co-ords° 20:40, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
If citations are added to the table, this RFC can be closed as overtaken by eventsand you'll note I voted keep above. Even if the RFC was left open I doubt there would have been an agreement that this was a BLP issue. It can't be one now as the only possible justification for it being so was that the content was "potentially" wrong, which sources now show not to be the case. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmissions∆ ° co-ords° 21:59, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
@ 2405:4803:C6B9:1300:FD0B:2967:3772:5A67 Why did you remove citations? Chrisdevelop ( talk) 12:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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The link to Cindy Pastel doesn't exist. Maybe someone could make an entry for Cindy in Wikipeida. -- Khalidabdulkhaleqabdulla 21:09, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I didn't want to just tag this non-neutral, but I have some issues with the following:
The film explored gay stereotypes without always reverting to those stereotypes just for a cheap laugh. The main characters were neither sinners, nor evil (like many gay, lesbian, and transgender characters in early film) nor perfect, saintly martyrs (i.e Philadelphia), but rather fully formed characters with strengths and flaws.
These two statements are decidedly POV. I haven't seen the film, however, and I'd like to ask/encourage someone who has to try to clean this section up just a bit. Thanks! -- S0uj1r0 08:21, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Anyone else recall this man wearing futuristic tonic suit pulling a cart or trolley of some sort running with some kinda of strobe light on an antenna on the cart? What's the deal with that? He made 2-3 appearance over the film and on one occasion Felicia attempted to say hi to him. -- Kvasir 01:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know if the musical version did open on the projected date given? If so, can they tweak the future into the past tense? Tx. Nat 15:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
"A joke, explaining where Trumpet got his name, was omitted for the film's US release, but later released on the Special Edition DVD." The article should say who Trumpet is, yes? Nat 15:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
The stage adaptation has it's own Priscilla Queen of the Desert - the Musical article. The stage adaptation content in the film article is long in comparison to film article's length. I suggest moving the bulk of the stage adaptation commentary to that article. Conrad T. Pino 10:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
What did the film win the Oscars for? Anyone know? Vauxhall1964 20:14, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes it won for costume design —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.30.255.45 ( talk) 04:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
An IP editor has recently changed the description of the three main characters. It was "three drag queens, one of whom is a transsexual and the other two are homosexuals.". It is now "three drag queens, one of whom is a heterosexual transwoman and the other two are homosexual cismen".
I'm reasonably well read, but I've never come across the terms transwoman and cismen. They may well be accurate, but I haven't ever seen such terms used to describe the characters before. I haven't looked at all the references (some are to a book I don't have), but there's no hint that those words are used in any of them.
If the terms are accurate, I guess they're doing no harm, except confusing people not close to the LGBT scene. They did look a bit odd and made up when I first saw them, so I reverted the changes, but our IP editor de-reverted with an edit summary including "huh? " and "what gives?". He/she seems fairly committed to the change. I'm not touching the changes again until we have a bit of discussion on the matter.
HiLo48 ( talk) 05:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
"Felicia" may be gay, but "Mitzi" (Hugo Weaving) is not necessarily. He has a family... not all drag queens are gay, many are in heterosexual relationships. Mitzi just wants to act as a woman, no more. No where in the film does he commit to homosexual acts. Please change it. -- 82.82.149.59 ( talk) 11:37, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
I just removed a claim that the involvement of Jason Donovan in the musical version of the film is "interesting" given the references to Kylie Minogue in the script. Firstly it is unreferenced. Also it is POV. Also, it is not really very "interesting" given that the main co-star of Donovan and Mingoue throughout their Neighbours stint, was Guy Pearce, who played a lead role in the original The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert film. Format ( talk) 20:16, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Greetings all,
Been hunting for information on the song performed in the movie. I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor in the movie had some incredible backing performance and vocals mixed in from the cast extras that were Aboriginal Australians. Was there ever an actual song rendition of this. I have the soundtrack with the original song and a remix. I would much prefer finding a copy fully produced from how it was presented in the movie itself.
Thanks to anyone who can provide me with any information on this.
Sincerely, Ham Channell
As far as I know, it was not released a version of this mix of the song you mention. However if you are interested in the original score of this movie, there is an album called "The Priscilla Companion" with the instrumental songs composed specifically for this movie by Guy Gross. I added this information on Wikipedia as you can see in (
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Adventures_of_Priscilla,_Queen_of_the_Desert&diff=610243968&oldid=610243836) But user HiLo48 deleted it allegedly that my source was uncertain, even though I added the correspondent sources but he ignored them deleting again and again. I have a mix of the song "I will Survive" with the chants you make reference to direct from the movie audio track. If you're interested contact me with your e-mail and I will share it.
Sincerely, Takeh ( talk) 05:31, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks! 2607:FEA8:80A0:1270:65C7:3438:BB07:897 ( talk) 19:41, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
The section on post-production says the following:
"On the advice of early viewers, the film was shortened and scenes such as Adam's flashback about his paedophilic uncle were cut out."
Anyone who owns the film on blu-ray will know that the stated flashback appears at 30 minutes into the movie and is not cut. Has this been reinstated on home video releases, or was it never cut in the first place? In any case this should be changed but as I don't see this information elsewhere online I'm not sure what to cite; it's easily disprovable for anyone who owns a copy of the movie. Even if the information is in the cited book, then that source must be incorrect. Is the veracity of the claim that the film was shortened on the advice of early viewers also thrown into question by this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmbroseCadwell ( talk • contribs) 00:26, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
I’m sure there was a lot of concern about the negative stereotyping of the Filipina character. It certainly upset me when I saw the film on its original release. I’m surprised it isn’t mentioned here. 49.186.57.84 ( talk) 11:41, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
How is this so?? 192.84.52.10 ( talk) 15:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
although it was later decided that an ABBA song would be more appropriate because [of] its "tacky qualities"DonQuixote ( talk) 15:51, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
@ Koavf: For now, I have reinstated the Awards table you deleted. Rather than get into an edit war, please itemise specific parts of the table you believe violate WP policies. Chrisdevelop ( talk) 07:02, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The table listing the Awards has no citations.
It was removed from the article by this edit, because it is unsourced: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Adventures_of_Priscilla%2C_Queen_of_the_Desert&diff=1156503955&oldid=1152957036
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Should the table be removed from the article as long as it is unsourced? Robert McClenon ( talk) 15:23, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The choices are to remove the unsourced table, or to retain the table. If citations are added to the table, this RFC can be closed as overtaken by events. Enter Yes or Remove or Delete in the Survey to remove the table, with a brief supporting statement. Enter No or Keep in the Survey to keep the table, with a brief supporting statement. Do not reply to other statements in the Survey. The Discussion section is provided for back-and-forth discussion.
WP:MINREF applies to what must have an inline citation, it doesn't mean that other content doesn't have to be sourced.Actually, MINREF says a little further down: "Technically, if an article contains none of these four types of material, then it is not required by any policy to name any sources at all, either as inline citations or as general references." I'm not aware of any part of WP:V that says
all content must be sourced. Could you point me to the particular passage you're thinking of? Sojourner in the earth ( talk) 19:38, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
challenged content must be sourced per WP:BURDENYes, but the content in that section hadn't been challenged until you added that tag. A valid challenge must have a policy-based reason behind it. Again, per WP:BURDEN, "When tagging or removing material for lacking an inline citation, please state your concern that it may not be possible to find a published reliable source, and the material therefore may not be verifiable." Do you have reason to believe that it may not be possible to find sources for that awards table? Have you attempted to verify any of it yourself? Sojourner in the earth ( talk) 20:35, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmissions∆ ° co-ords° 20:40, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
If citations are added to the table, this RFC can be closed as overtaken by eventsand you'll note I voted keep above. Even if the RFC was left open I doubt there would have been an agreement that this was a BLP issue. It can't be one now as the only possible justification for it being so was that the content was "potentially" wrong, which sources now show not to be the case. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmissions∆ ° co-ords° 21:59, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
@ 2405:4803:C6B9:1300:FD0B:2967:3772:5A67 Why did you remove citations? Chrisdevelop ( talk) 12:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)