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The opening description within a few lines says that this was "not an agreement" an inordinate number of times when one would suffice. I will reduce it to ONE mention which is all it takes. Apologetics too much? It will remain saying it was not a formal agreement, but it is absolutely unnecessary to repeat it in every sentence (which also sounds suspicious) -- 201.176.156.204 ( talk) 14:35, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
"The Taft-Katsura Agreement was a secret agreement signed between William Howard Taft, United States Secretary of War, and Katsura Taro, Prime Minister of Japan in July 1905." This sentence is slightly confusing. In my opinion, it should read, "The Taft-Katsura Agreement was a secret agreement signed between William Howard Taft (United States Secretary of War), and Katsure Taro (Prime Minister of Japan) in July, 1905." If anyone else agrees, please let me know or change it yourself. Thanks!-- ViolinGirl 21:52, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
I marked the details section for nuetrality as I feel an anti-Korean tilt in the writing. Please do not remove the message until this is corrected. Jacsam2 ( talk) 03:15, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
My prior understanding was that the conversation was in response to Japanese victory over Russia. But the Wikipedia article for
Russo-Japanese War gives end date 5 September 1905. The conversation being in July 1905 puts it before Japan's victory. Our article here states "Katsura observed that Japanese colonization of Korea was a matter of absolute importance, as he considered Korea to have been a direct cause of the just-concluded Russo-Japanese War." There seems to be a number of areas of controversy in the historical literature, but this point should be clarified. I will do some reading and see if the matter can be clarified.
ParkSehJik (
talk) 19:13, 21 September 2012 (UTC) The victory of Japan was imminent, Japan having just sent the Russian fleet to the bottom of the sea, and Roossevelt had sent Taft to bring both parties to the peace table, per Raymond Esthus in the cited referene.
ParkSehJik (
talk) 20:48, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Context of agreement
The Japanese were at war with Russia. The Japanese had just sent the Russia Baltic naval fleet to in their war over Korea in 1905, so victory by Japan was clearly imminent.[1] President Theodore Roosevelt was trying to bring both Russia and Japan to peace negotiatoins.[1] The United States had obtained control of the Philippines from its war with Spain in 1998. Roosevelt's War Secretary William Howard Taft stopped by in Japan on his way to the Philippines.[1] FurnaldHall ( talk) 03:06, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
I see there's been some question recently as to the nature of the agreement. Here are two sources for sorting that out:
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The opening description within a few lines says that this was "not an agreement" an inordinate number of times when one would suffice. I will reduce it to ONE mention which is all it takes. Apologetics too much? It will remain saying it was not a formal agreement, but it is absolutely unnecessary to repeat it in every sentence (which also sounds suspicious) -- 201.176.156.204 ( talk) 14:35, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
"The Taft-Katsura Agreement was a secret agreement signed between William Howard Taft, United States Secretary of War, and Katsura Taro, Prime Minister of Japan in July 1905." This sentence is slightly confusing. In my opinion, it should read, "The Taft-Katsura Agreement was a secret agreement signed between William Howard Taft (United States Secretary of War), and Katsure Taro (Prime Minister of Japan) in July, 1905." If anyone else agrees, please let me know or change it yourself. Thanks!-- ViolinGirl 21:52, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
I marked the details section for nuetrality as I feel an anti-Korean tilt in the writing. Please do not remove the message until this is corrected. Jacsam2 ( talk) 03:15, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
My prior understanding was that the conversation was in response to Japanese victory over Russia. But the Wikipedia article for
Russo-Japanese War gives end date 5 September 1905. The conversation being in July 1905 puts it before Japan's victory. Our article here states "Katsura observed that Japanese colonization of Korea was a matter of absolute importance, as he considered Korea to have been a direct cause of the just-concluded Russo-Japanese War." There seems to be a number of areas of controversy in the historical literature, but this point should be clarified. I will do some reading and see if the matter can be clarified.
ParkSehJik (
talk) 19:13, 21 September 2012 (UTC) The victory of Japan was imminent, Japan having just sent the Russian fleet to the bottom of the sea, and Roossevelt had sent Taft to bring both parties to the peace table, per Raymond Esthus in the cited referene.
ParkSehJik (
talk) 20:48, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Context of agreement
The Japanese were at war with Russia. The Japanese had just sent the Russia Baltic naval fleet to in their war over Korea in 1905, so victory by Japan was clearly imminent.[1] President Theodore Roosevelt was trying to bring both Russia and Japan to peace negotiatoins.[1] The United States had obtained control of the Philippines from its war with Spain in 1998. Roosevelt's War Secretary William Howard Taft stopped by in Japan on his way to the Philippines.[1] FurnaldHall ( talk) 03:06, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
I see there's been some question recently as to the nature of the agreement. Here are two sources for sorting that out: