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GizzyCatBella: I want the word "Gypsy" to be removed from the article for several reasons. First is the most reasonable for me: short descriptions should "be short – no more than about 40 characters (but this can be slightly exceeded if necessary)
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WP:SDLENGTH; emphasis in original). We don't need include two synonyms there because it's redundant and increases the character count.
2. Gypsy is a slur. [1] [2] [3]
3. Even when used in a non-derogatory sense, readers don't need to know alternative names for something outside that thing's article. Wikipedia is marketed as an online encyclopedia, so people reading this can easily click on the link if they want to know some etymology or something.
It's late at night, so please excuse my grammar and tone, I'll copy-edit this later. ~~ lol1 VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 21:54, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
This is slur, has to be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baro Shero ( talk • contribs) 07:10, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
The word adds nothing to the article, and the link to an unrelated source seems like SYNTH. Simpler opening to lede without the material in brackets and simpler short description, both saying "Romani" is cleaner. If readers don't know what "Romani" means they can go to the linked article. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 11:14, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
I agree that this slur should be removed. People can click through to the Romani article if they need clarification. The term is also less exact as different traveller peoples, such as Irish travellers, are also called "gypsies". Lastly, "gypsy" is an English term so is uncontextual in this article and unrelated to German and Polish slurs/terms (which are variations of "cingane" with a different etymology). God knows we wouldn’t need a debate on usage of a slur in this way in an article about a Jewish pogrom or African-American lynching. Vladimir.copic ( talk) 12:37, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Looking at the Romani people article is this a variant of English problem? It's doesn't appear to be considered a slur by all Romani and Wikipedia is more than just the US. Either way I believe the proper place for such a discussion is at Talk:Romani people, as it would set precedent for other articles. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmissions∆ ° co-ords° 16:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
As a majority of editors in this discussion think this should be removed I’m going to remove it for now. Per WP:ONUS, it is on those seeking inclusion of disputed material to gain consensus for it. Vladimir.copic ( talk) 21:27, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
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GizzyCatBella: I want the word "Gypsy" to be removed from the article for several reasons. First is the most reasonable for me: short descriptions should "be short – no more than about 40 characters (but this can be slightly exceeded if necessary)
" (
WP:SDLENGTH; emphasis in original). We don't need include two synonyms there because it's redundant and increases the character count.
2. Gypsy is a slur. [1] [2] [3]
3. Even when used in a non-derogatory sense, readers don't need to know alternative names for something outside that thing's article. Wikipedia is marketed as an online encyclopedia, so people reading this can easily click on the link if they want to know some etymology or something.
It's late at night, so please excuse my grammar and tone, I'll copy-edit this later. ~~ lol1 VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 21:54, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
This is slur, has to be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baro Shero ( talk • contribs) 07:10, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
The word adds nothing to the article, and the link to an unrelated source seems like SYNTH. Simpler opening to lede without the material in brackets and simpler short description, both saying "Romani" is cleaner. If readers don't know what "Romani" means they can go to the linked article. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 11:14, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
I agree that this slur should be removed. People can click through to the Romani article if they need clarification. The term is also less exact as different traveller peoples, such as Irish travellers, are also called "gypsies". Lastly, "gypsy" is an English term so is uncontextual in this article and unrelated to German and Polish slurs/terms (which are variations of "cingane" with a different etymology). God knows we wouldn’t need a debate on usage of a slur in this way in an article about a Jewish pogrom or African-American lynching. Vladimir.copic ( talk) 12:37, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Looking at the Romani people article is this a variant of English problem? It's doesn't appear to be considered a slur by all Romani and Wikipedia is more than just the US. Either way I believe the proper place for such a discussion is at Talk:Romani people, as it would set precedent for other articles. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmissions∆ ° co-ords° 16:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
As a majority of editors in this discussion think this should be removed I’m going to remove it for now. Per WP:ONUS, it is on those seeking inclusion of disputed material to gain consensus for it. Vladimir.copic ( talk) 21:27, 25 August 2022 (UTC)