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/info/en/?search=Syria#/media/File:Syria_Ethno-religious_composition..jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.1.100.174 ( talk) 00:12, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
U.K. FOREIGN SECRETARY: RUSSIA'S INTERVENTION IN SYRIA IS STRENGTHENING ISIS
British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond has accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of inadvertently supporting the Islamic State militant group (ISIS) in Syria, Reuters reported.
Russia has been conducting air strikes in Syria since September 2015 and said it targets a range of militant groups in the country, not just ISIS. The Russian defense ministry said on Monday that its aircraft had carried out 468 missions in the previous week, hitting 1,354 “terrorists’ infrastructural facilities” in Syria. RUSSIA'S INTERVENTION IN SYRIA IS STRENGTHENING ISIS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.162.146.3 ( talk) 21:09, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
"Pompey the Great of the Roman Empire, who captured Antioch in 64 BC, turning Syria into a Roman province," under Classic Antiquity, is not a sentence.
hi sydney — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.71.219.212 ( talk) 15:44, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
In the last sentence of the first paragraph Sunni Arabs should be hyperlinked.
The previous link in the paragraph is for "islam is Syria" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.14.168 ( talk) 20:21, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 05:58, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
As Syria disintegrates, there is a loosing connection between "Syria" and "Syrian Arab Republic". Evidently Baathist Syrian government controls just about 30% of the former area of Syria those days. Overall, when we talk about Syria today we mean geographic concept of Syria and not always pointing to the Syrian Arab Republic. Another issue is that there is an alternative rebel government claiming to be legitimate ( Syrian Opposition), and even another quasi-state (ISIS) controlling large parts of it and in a way also referring to itself as Syria (al-Sham). The obvious solution is to move Syria article to Syrian Arab Republic and make Syria a geographic article to prevent confusion with the various entities, now claiming to be "Syria". Thoughts? GreyShark ( dibra) 22:33, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
– With the Syrian Civil War closing to 4 years since eruption, we have a fractured country, controlled about 30% by Syrian Arab Republic (40% if including self-proclaimed autonomous Syrian Kurdistan), some 40% controlled by Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Syria) and 20% fractured between rebel groups, among which Syrian National Council is claiming the role of government in exile of an alternative Syrian state. As a consequence, the concept Syria is largely referring today to the geographic Syria and not specifically Syrian Arab Republic, which is controlling only a margin of former territory. Propose to rename Syria to Syrian Arab Republic, while making Syria a redirect to Syria (region) GreyShark ( dibra) 19:11, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
The Syria page is in serious need of updating to reflect recent events- the current page sanctions seem to be inhibiting this.
Absolutely. This page feels as though it has been censored - not in the spirit of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vburmester ( talk • contribs) 16:35, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Then again, when it comes to this War, it does seem that Wikipedia is not willing to act in the spirit of Wikipedia. 79.71.254.90 ( talk) 22:24, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
Syrian Turkmens political Movements Syrian Turkmen flee to Lebanon's Turkish village [1] , Syrian Turkmens Brigades , Syrian Turks Flag [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.140.219.29 ( talk) 08:59, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Al-Qaeda in Syria targets Turkmen minority
[3]
The Turkmen of Syria: exposed early to assimilation and deportation policies [4]
SYRIAN TURKMENS: POLITICAL MOVEMENTS AND MILITARY STRUCTURE [5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.179.187.3 ( talk) 14:29, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Syrian ciwil War Russian aerial bombardment, the Syrian army and Hezbollah killing Turkmen
Jab-al Turkman — Preceding
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Turkmen regions Bayırbucak, Turkmen mountain, Aleppo Governorate Talaf Turkmen descent, Aqrap Turkmen 18 Mojahedin of [ Russian Federation]. If the Turk's or Arab's ? Mil li jard ( talk) 13:29, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi!
I'm inviting editors to participate in the discussion to move the article 'Syrian Kurdistan' to 'Rojava'. My rationale is: This article is about a region governed by the PYD, which calls the area Rojava. Foreign press also uses this term, for example [6] (BBC) [7] (Guardian) [8] (Independent) [9] (VICE). Other examples on Wikipedia such as Kosovo (not South Serbia), Catalonia (not Catalonian Spain) or Scotland (not Scottish United Kingdom) indicate this article should be called Rojava as per convention. Thanks Genjix ( talk) 19:01, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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The Greek historian Posidonius (150 BC) says,, "the people we (Greeks) call Syrians, were called by the Syrians self Arameans....for the people in Syria are the Arameans". This is repeated by Strabo (Greek historian, Born ca.63 BC), the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus (First century AD) and others who all have testified to the fact that the people, whom the Greeks called syrians, called itself Arameans
I think it is not true that the name Syria is from the word Assyrian. syrioi is from the name of the king Cyrus.
We are confused with the words syria-assyria-syriac, becouse they sound similar in latin and greek, but not in semitic languages: soria-ashour-siriani
Becouse of that i think it must be changed.
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Yes of course that are Those historians called Posidonius, Strabo, Flavius Josephus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caliph Ibrahim ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
I assume the map of the current conflict in Syria is updated as things occur. Wouldn't it make sense to do what ISIL does and date the latest revision? When I visit ISIL, I can immediately see that there's been no major changes in the situation in six days. Timothyjosephwood ( talk) 10:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Please fill out the websites <Syria> with the theme State
fault Arab Jamahiriya Sirya.
The Lender's have, probably, a interest -
get back the its funds and when? Sacsaveclepain ( talk) 15:03, 23 July 2015 (UTC) Chill out. Creditors are big enough and the country
Syria are rich enough.
Al Assad are Islamists or Aufstandische
way or repay all monies.
For each patron or rocket purchased on credit. Cents vingt trois ( talk) 14:40, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Peacekeepers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leadermaster ( talk • contribs) 04:17, 30 August 2015 (UTC) ≈≈≈≈MurrayJohn Craig Geddes
The population infobox in the demographics section says 'Historical populations (in thousands)', when I'm pretty sure Syria's population is in the millions. Fix it please, thanks -- 68.118.202.114 ( talk) 15:07, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
This heading is still wrong. The (in thousands) text needs to be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.221.168 ( talk) 05:50, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Could we please be fair-minded enough to substitute the villifying word regime (with it's tyrannous connotations) for government? This is after all an encyclopaedia. Beingsshepherd ( talk) 02:21, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
How much rubles has Putin funneled to your bank account? They are losing value soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.202.170 ( talk) 05:15, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
So, when it comes to Syria, it would seem that Wikipedia are not fair-minded enough to substitute the villifying word regime for government. But it will allow uncalled insults to be made against Russia. Not that there is any pro-US regime agenda here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.71.254.90 ( talk) 22:16, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
Indeed it is worrying the issue you raise. It seems this is not an encyclopaedia anymore and is run by fanatics from both sides Green beret1972 ( talk) 15:10, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. Shhhhwwww!! ( talk) 00:43, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
– No WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The name "Syria" can also refer to the Syrian region, Assyria, Roman Syria and Syria-Palaestina. Shhhhwwww!! ( talk) 21:44, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
There are claims that due to split of Syria (Ba'ath, Sunni Opposition, Kurdish autonomy, Jihadist forces) and invasion (ISIL) - Syria can no longer be considered a nation-state, but rather a failed state - like Yemen, Libya and Iraq. There are multiple sources to support this [10], [11], [12], [13]. I suggest to add this into leading section. GreyShark ( dibra) 20:18, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
You dont need an rfc,This isnt a democracy.. you cant declare a failed state and its not up to your "judgment".. your "sources" that you really looked hard to find with weird determenation arent authoritive to declare a failed state... anyway, most of syria is under the control of the republic unless you count the desert... the state is regaining lands and you are mistaken.. salaries are still being paid..arab league is a joke.. even unicef have more authority and syria is a full part of the international community. maybe your dream of the collapse of syria might happen someday.. but you need to wait.-- Attar-Aram syria ( talk) 14:58, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria border, Moscow denies air space violation [17]
Turkmen Mountain War Gunshots are being also heard from Yayladağı district.
It is stated that elders and children especially in Bayırbucak region where mostly the young Turkmens live, move beside to Turkish border but not to Turkey because they do not want to leave their homes. Sometimes the Syrian regime sometimes the Turkmen side maintains control over coastal Bucak region. Turkmens had to retreat from a part of Bucak region due to airstrikes. Turkmen 2nd Coastal Division controls a 40km-region from Ğimem to Acısu Region [18]
Russia, Assad regime continue pounding Turkmen Mountain Russia aims to make Assad more powerful ahead of negotiations with opposition, Turkmen leader says
- Turkmen Mountain
The head of Turkmen Parliament in Syria, Abdurrahman Mustafa, says that various motivations lay behind Russia’s rising attacks against Turkmen Mountain.
Strategic importance of Bayirbucak
The Red Mountain, about five kilometers [just over three miles] from the Turkish border, has the strategic importance of being the highest peak in the region. [19] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.140.225.59 ( talk) 14:14, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Russia shoots innocent civilians, Russian airstrikes hit children in Qur'an course in Syria Russian airstrikes hit a Qur'an course and a refugee camp; scores of people killed and injured
Russian airstrikes hit children in Qur'an course in Syria
Russia and Assad Accused of Shelling Syrian Refugee Camp Near Turkish Border
"The Russian airstrikes Turkmen Mountain — Preceding
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...and we all believe Vice News. 79.71.254.90 ( talk) 23:07, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
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Dumat al-Jandal has nothing to do with Dūmā, the former being in Saudi Arabia and the latter in Damascus suburbs. Please delete this whole paragraph (During Muhammad's era) as it's not related to Syria. Ghaylan de Damas ( talk) 15:50, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi there, I was struck by the map of the Syrian Civil War. The use of colours is not neutral.
Culturally speaking, red and green, when used together, symbolise "enemies" and "allies" respectively. The suggestion of the map is that the Syrian government are our "enemies" while the Syrian rebels are our "allies." This is not neutral.
I've changed the colour of the Syrian government from red to blue. Blue and green are rarely seen to be opposing colours in the same way, though they are clearly different enough from each other that one can tell one side of the conflict from the other. I'm linking the file here.
I'd be very grateful if someone could replace the picture that's currently there with this one, thereby restoring proper neutrality to the article.
Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.147.203.172 ( talk) 23:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
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(Sayyidah Zaynab) Religious zone in Damascus: Created by Iraqi immigrants since 2004, and Shia Muslims from Iran, Hezbollah, and Iraqi Shia.
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The article is too old and does not talk about ISIS (the global terrorist organisation) عراف الجبل ( talk) 06:05, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
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Syrian Civil War Main article: Syrian Civil War The ongoing Syrian Civil War was inspired by the Arab Spring revolutions. It began in 2011 as a chain of peaceful protests, followed by a crackdown by the Syrian Army.[89] In July 2011, army defectors declared the formation of the Free Syrian Army and began forming fighting units. The opposition is dominated by Sunni Muslims, whereas the leading government figures are Alawites.[90] According to various sources, including the United Nations, up to 100,000 people had been killed by June 2013,[91][92][93] including 11,000 children.[94] To escape the violence, over 2.1 million Syrian refugees have fled to neighboring countries of Jordan,[95] Iraq,[96] Lebanon, and Turkey.[97][98] An estimated 450,000 Syrian Christians have fled their homes.[99] As the civil war has dragged on, there have been worries that the country could become fragmented and cease to function as a state.[100]
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Syrian Civil War Main article: Syrian Civil War The ongoing Syrian Civil War was inspired by the Arab Spring revolutions. It began in 2011 as a chain of peaceful protests, followed by a crackdown by the Syrian Army.[89] In July 2011, army defectors declared the formation of the Free Syrian Army and began forming fighting units. The opposition is dominated by Sunni Muslims, whereas the leading government figures are Alawites.[90] According to various sources, including the United Nations, up to 100,000 people had been killed by June 2013,[91][92][93] including 11,000 children.[94] To escape the violence, almost 4.8 million [sources http://syrianrefugees.eu and United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) ] Syrian refugees have fled to neighboring countries of Jordan,[95] Iraq,[96] Lebanon, Turkey,[97] and Egypt[98] An estimated 450,000 Syrian Christians have fled their homes.[99] As the civil war has dragged on, there have been worries that the country could become fragmented and cease to function as a state.[100]
Perseo985 ( talk) 14:57, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
There's no evidence that the largest city of Syria is Damascus. Population of Aleppo can be still as much as 1.8 million, larger than the last recorded population of Damascus. Note the Damascus' metropolitan area(near 3 million) is not the same as the city itself. Please remove the "largest city" line in the infobox if there is still no reference. Esiymbro ( talk) 17:51, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
wow, big article about the Syrian presidential election, 2014 and not even a simple link here? --Hoffmansk 09:41, 14 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoffmansk ( talk • contribs)
All articles related to alleged " Rojava" are presenting a PYD opinion as facts. Human rights in Rojava and Shahba region are great examples for this. In addition, there is a lot of original research and blackwashing happening here. Due to the contributions of 2 or 3 POV editors, Wikipedia looks like a mirror of PYD and other Kurdish propaganda sites. You may be inbterested in the discussion here. Thanks, Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم ( talk) 02:21, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
You can't edit this page and obviously this stinks censorship. Also the Aramaic speaking minority has been forgotten and the language is not even on the language list. Someone need to do something about this bias page. PrivateInvestigator ( talk) 14:25, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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The article says "Western Aramaic-speakers living all over the country,[citation needed] particularly in major urban centers". Really? I think that western aramaic only is spoken in 3 villages. I wonder if there is a confusion between "Western Armaic-speakers" and "Western Syriac Rite" (both the practioners of Western Syriac Rite and of Eastern Syriac Rite are (or at least were) Eastern Aramaic-speakers-- MiguelMadeira ( talk) 12:06, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
For years, Syria has been the scene of a bloody civil war resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, and the destruction of entire cities. The recent image donation by the Nationaal Museum van Wereldculturen (the National Museum of World Cultures) in the Netherlands shows another Syria. Many of these photos were taken in the 1980s and show scenes of daily life and images and cities not yet devastated by war. Other images show objects from the collection of the museum. Together, they form a valuable resource on Syria for the various Wikimedia projects. The upload consists of 352 photos in total and can be accessed here. It coincides with a photo exhibition in the NMvW on Aleppo. The upload was part of the project The Netherlands and the World, which aims to make accessible Dutch collections on non-European heritage. Kind regards, -- AWossink ( talk) 10:49, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Below the map of the military situation in Syria, it lists the different sides of the conflict. It refers to the Syrian Government as the Ba'athist Syrian Forces. This seems to violate neutrality, as it is removing the idea of it being a central government and associates it purely with Ba'athism. I could understand why Syrian Government might be a little biased, as it implies this is the legitimate government, so perhaps a name like Assad Government would work or something along those lines.--Yeti of Miak (talk) 14:30, 15 June 2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yet of Miak ( talk • contribs)
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Can we have a consensus to add Russian language for Syria despite not being in the constitution. One article on the Guardian read that one "Syrian ambassador in Moscow, Riyad Haddad, said Bashar al-Assad had also made Russian the second language in Syria, and had donated land near Damascus for a Russian school to be built." Supreme Dragon ( talk) 13:13, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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Wikipedia's policy on article titles.I would like to add a UNESCO image File:A16 Palmira - Tetrapilo 816.jpg to this page, but I do not know if I can put it or I could have sanctions. P.s i here on en.wp i do not have 500 edits but they are admin in some projects and i am global rollback. Thank you. (If you answer me tell me). -- Samuele2002 ( talk) 18:51, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Might it be possible for someone to add links to the 'French language' and 'English language' article pages in the Languages section where they are mentioned? 2A02:C7D:51AC:5000:FC4E:4B47:9421:6569 ( talk) 16:40, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
I am well aware that Syria is an authoritarian regime and its not the freest country in the world. But can someone drop the term "totalitarian dictatorship"? Unless I am missing something, Baathist Syria is not a totalitarian dictatorship in the sense of North Korea or other historical totalitarian regimes. Yes the regime is dictatorial but I don't know if we should classify Syria as a totalitarian dictatorship just because the Baath Party and the Assad regime isn't the most pleasant state around. Hell a lot better than North Korea if I had a gun up to my head and I had to choose between which one is "better". I'd choose Syria. Sorry to sound snippy or if I have an agenda, I don't have one. I think its justifiable to label the DPRK as a totalitarian dictatorship, it fits the description of a totalitarian regime but with Syria, that's debatable. I think we should a less biased term to describe the Syrian regime.
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Change Syria's population density ranking.
On the Syria page it is listed as: 101st.
At the following place it is listed as 111th. /info/en/?search=List_of_countries_and_territories_by_population_density but this list includes 246 territories, each with a separate ranking.
While the lists for area and population only have numbered rankings for sovereign territories: /info/en/?search=List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area /info/en/?search=List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population For these two lists, dependent territories aren't a part of the number ranking.
Also, since Syria is 64th in population size and 87th in area size you would think it's population density ranking would be a lower number than 64... but instead it's above 100.
This is partially explained by there being a lot of islands of small area with high population density, but most of these Islands aren't sovereign.
I think the difference in how the first article includes both sovereign and dependent areas while the other lists don't include dependent territories as a part of the numerical order is causing a discrepancy. It might be helpful if these lists all only gave numerical rankings to sovereign nations. There could be other lists that include both dependent and independent areas. Just an idea Donarkese12 ( talk) 05:02, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
There A New Speaker of the People's Council of Syria Now And his name is Najdat Anzour you have to edit that RaoufAlbeni ( talk) 01:58, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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The claim that the name "Syria" is derived from the epithet "Sirion" used by the Sidonians as an epithet for Mt. Hermon is a fringe theory that should not be cited first as a possible etymology, but rather, last, if at all. There is no evidence that this name for Mt. Hermon ("Sirion") was ever applied to the country Syria as a whole, and the reference cited in this article to this alleged etymology is from a media article by Daniel Pipes. On the other hand, the link between between the names "Assyria" and "Syria" in ancient texts, such as ancient Greek, and the bilingual Luwian-Phoenician Çineköy inscription, is overwhelming favored by the academic community, and thus this should be cited first in the Etymology section. This article should also mention the explicit linkage of "Syrian" with "Assyrian" mentioned in Herodotus, Book 7, Chapter 63, Section 1: "The Assyrians in the army wore on their heads helmets of twisted bronze made in an outlandish fashion not easy to describe...They are called by the Greeks Syrians, but the foreigners called them Assyrians." Jacob D ( talk) 16:20, 3 December 2017 (UTC)Jacob D
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There are lots of unverified hearsay in this article, I vote that it be cleaned up. Otherwise this is not usable as a reference.
This is but one thing that is completely irrelevant unless you want to support the propaganda defaming Syria. " August 2013, the government was suspected of using chemical weapons against its civilians. US Secretary of State John Kerry said it was "undeniable" that chemical weapons had been used in the country and that President Bashar al-Assad's forces had committed a "moral obscenity" against his own people. "Make no mistake," Kerry said. "President Obama believes there must be accountability for those who would use the world's most heinous weapon against the world's most vulnerable people. Nothing today is more serious, and nothing is receiving more serious scrutiny".[136]"
Does this mean that any foreign politician can make baseless accusations and have them written into a wikipedia article? Must I also remind you that Obama is the american president with the most wars while in office? please think before using propaganda in an article. 5.186.127.245 ( talk) 15:46, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
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Can anyone defend why the discussion on UN/Golan Heights takes up such a large part of the lede paragraph? It seems like that would belong a bit better later on in the article. ChunyangD ( talk) 21:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC) ChunyangD ( talk) 21:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
The sentence:
"The modern Syrian state was established after the end of centuries of Ottoman control in World War I as a French mandate, and represented the largest Arab state to emerge from the formerly Ottoman-ruled Arab Levant."
The sentence is not sourced and may not suit reality - Egypt was also legally Ottoman-ruled until 1914 and it is larger than Syrian Republic; in addition, originally Syria as a multi-ethnic country was not named "Arab" with Kurdish and Turkmen politicians playing a significant roles in Mandatory Syria and early independent Syria; only in 1958 Syria became named "Arab" due to union with Egypt into "United Arab Republic" and n 1961 split into "Arab Republic of Syria". I've meanwhile changed the sentence into "The modern Syrian state was established in mid-20th century after centuries of Ottoman and a brief period French mandate, and represented the largest Arab state to emerge from the formerly Ottoman-ruled Arab Levant." but "largest Arab" state is probably incorrect. GreyShark ( dibra) 08:30, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
There is a clear consensus that this article's lead should not include Ba'athist Syria as one of the common names of the Syrian Arab Republic.
I would like to ask editors whether this article lead should include Ba'athist Syria as one of the common names of the Syrian Arab Republic. Currently it is still a consensus that Syria refers to the Syrian Arab Republic, which is a unitary geopolitical entity (state) ruled by the al-Assad dynasty on behalf of the Syria-based Ba'ath Party, which is ruling Syrian Arab Republic since the 1963 coup d'etat. In a very similar case for Iraq during the Ba'athist period 1968-2003 the country article is named Ba'athist Iraq. Furthermore, Ba'athist Syria is a very common term in media and scholar literature to refer to the Ba'ath ruled Syrian Arab Republic's territory, population and military (see Quicksilver War: Syria, Iraq and the Spiral of Conflict 2018, Class and Capitalism in Syria 2016, Everyday Arab Identity: The Daily Reproduction of the Arab World 2013, Greater Syria: The History of an Ambition 1992), to differentiate it from pre-1963 Syrian Republic and from other modern Syrian entities of the Syrian Civil War, such as North Syria Federation and Syrian Opposition (rebel members also often use Syrian Arab Republic as self-designated descriptory term). Please comment whether you think Ba'athist Syria should or should not be included in lead section per WP:COMMONNAME and whether it should be bolded or not. GreyShark ( dibra) 13:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Agrarian reform measures were introduced into Syria which consisted of three interrelated programs: Legislation regulating {regulation} the relationship between agricultural {agriculture} laborers and landowners; {:} legislation governing the ownership and use of private and state domain land and directing the economic organization of peasants; and measures reorganizing agricultural production under state control.[150] Despite high levels of inequality in land ownership these reforms allowed for more progress in redistribution of land from 1958 to 1961 than any other reforms in Syria's history, since independence.
The first law was passed (Law 134; passed 4 September 1958) in response to concerns {concern} about peasant mobilization and expanding peasants' rights.[151] This was designed to strengthen the position of sharecroppers and agricultural laborers in relation to land owners.[151] This law led {lead} to the creation of the Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs, which announced the implementation of new laws that would allow for the regulation of working conditions, {condition} especially for women and adolescents, set hours of work, and introduced {introduce} the principle of minimum wage for paid laborers and an equitable division of harvest for sharecroppers.[152] Furthermore, it obligated landlords to honor both written and oral contracts, established collective bargaining {barging}, and contained provisions for workers' compensation, health, housing, and employment services.[151] Law 134 was not designed strictly to protect workers. It also acknowledged the rights of landlords to form their own syndicates.[151] 173.164.68.154 ( talk) 05:24, 27 April 2018 (UTC)George Neally
Hello, there is a RfC at the White Helmets Talk page which may interest people on this here. - GPRamirez5 ( talk) 06:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC) GPRamirez5 ( talk) 06:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
There is currently an RfC on Foreign involvement in the Syrian Civil War which editors here may wish to weigh in on. Best, GPRamirez5 ( talk) 15:48, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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/info/en/?search=Syria#/media/File:Syria_Ethno-religious_composition..jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.1.100.174 ( talk) 00:12, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
U.K. FOREIGN SECRETARY: RUSSIA'S INTERVENTION IN SYRIA IS STRENGTHENING ISIS
British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond has accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of inadvertently supporting the Islamic State militant group (ISIS) in Syria, Reuters reported.
Russia has been conducting air strikes in Syria since September 2015 and said it targets a range of militant groups in the country, not just ISIS. The Russian defense ministry said on Monday that its aircraft had carried out 468 missions in the previous week, hitting 1,354 “terrorists’ infrastructural facilities” in Syria. RUSSIA'S INTERVENTION IN SYRIA IS STRENGTHENING ISIS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.162.146.3 ( talk) 21:09, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
"Pompey the Great of the Roman Empire, who captured Antioch in 64 BC, turning Syria into a Roman province," under Classic Antiquity, is not a sentence.
hi sydney — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.71.219.212 ( talk) 15:44, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
In the last sentence of the first paragraph Sunni Arabs should be hyperlinked.
The previous link in the paragraph is for "islam is Syria" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.14.168 ( talk) 20:21, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 05:58, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
As Syria disintegrates, there is a loosing connection between "Syria" and "Syrian Arab Republic". Evidently Baathist Syrian government controls just about 30% of the former area of Syria those days. Overall, when we talk about Syria today we mean geographic concept of Syria and not always pointing to the Syrian Arab Republic. Another issue is that there is an alternative rebel government claiming to be legitimate ( Syrian Opposition), and even another quasi-state (ISIS) controlling large parts of it and in a way also referring to itself as Syria (al-Sham). The obvious solution is to move Syria article to Syrian Arab Republic and make Syria a geographic article to prevent confusion with the various entities, now claiming to be "Syria". Thoughts? GreyShark ( dibra) 22:33, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
– With the Syrian Civil War closing to 4 years since eruption, we have a fractured country, controlled about 30% by Syrian Arab Republic (40% if including self-proclaimed autonomous Syrian Kurdistan), some 40% controlled by Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Syria) and 20% fractured between rebel groups, among which Syrian National Council is claiming the role of government in exile of an alternative Syrian state. As a consequence, the concept Syria is largely referring today to the geographic Syria and not specifically Syrian Arab Republic, which is controlling only a margin of former territory. Propose to rename Syria to Syrian Arab Republic, while making Syria a redirect to Syria (region) GreyShark ( dibra) 19:11, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
The Syria page is in serious need of updating to reflect recent events- the current page sanctions seem to be inhibiting this.
Absolutely. This page feels as though it has been censored - not in the spirit of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vburmester ( talk • contribs) 16:35, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Then again, when it comes to this War, it does seem that Wikipedia is not willing to act in the spirit of Wikipedia. 79.71.254.90 ( talk) 22:24, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
Syrian Turkmens political Movements Syrian Turkmen flee to Lebanon's Turkish village [1] , Syrian Turkmens Brigades , Syrian Turks Flag [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.140.219.29 ( talk) 08:59, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Al-Qaeda in Syria targets Turkmen minority
[3]
The Turkmen of Syria: exposed early to assimilation and deportation policies [4]
SYRIAN TURKMENS: POLITICAL MOVEMENTS AND MILITARY STRUCTURE [5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.179.187.3 ( talk) 14:29, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Syrian ciwil War Russian aerial bombardment, the Syrian army and Hezbollah killing Turkmen
Jab-al Turkman — Preceding
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Turkmen regions Bayırbucak, Turkmen mountain, Aleppo Governorate Talaf Turkmen descent, Aqrap Turkmen 18 Mojahedin of [ Russian Federation]. If the Turk's or Arab's ? Mil li jard ( talk) 13:29, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi!
I'm inviting editors to participate in the discussion to move the article 'Syrian Kurdistan' to 'Rojava'. My rationale is: This article is about a region governed by the PYD, which calls the area Rojava. Foreign press also uses this term, for example [6] (BBC) [7] (Guardian) [8] (Independent) [9] (VICE). Other examples on Wikipedia such as Kosovo (not South Serbia), Catalonia (not Catalonian Spain) or Scotland (not Scottish United Kingdom) indicate this article should be called Rojava as per convention. Thanks Genjix ( talk) 19:01, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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The Greek historian Posidonius (150 BC) says,, "the people we (Greeks) call Syrians, were called by the Syrians self Arameans....for the people in Syria are the Arameans". This is repeated by Strabo (Greek historian, Born ca.63 BC), the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus (First century AD) and others who all have testified to the fact that the people, whom the Greeks called syrians, called itself Arameans
I think it is not true that the name Syria is from the word Assyrian. syrioi is from the name of the king Cyrus.
We are confused with the words syria-assyria-syriac, becouse they sound similar in latin and greek, but not in semitic languages: soria-ashour-siriani
Becouse of that i think it must be changed.
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Yes of course that are Those historians called Posidonius, Strabo, Flavius Josephus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caliph Ibrahim ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
I assume the map of the current conflict in Syria is updated as things occur. Wouldn't it make sense to do what ISIL does and date the latest revision? When I visit ISIL, I can immediately see that there's been no major changes in the situation in six days. Timothyjosephwood ( talk) 10:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Please fill out the websites <Syria> with the theme State
fault Arab Jamahiriya Sirya.
The Lender's have, probably, a interest -
get back the its funds and when? Sacsaveclepain ( talk) 15:03, 23 July 2015 (UTC) Chill out. Creditors are big enough and the country
Syria are rich enough.
Al Assad are Islamists or Aufstandische
way or repay all monies.
For each patron or rocket purchased on credit. Cents vingt trois ( talk) 14:40, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Peacekeepers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leadermaster ( talk • contribs) 04:17, 30 August 2015 (UTC) ≈≈≈≈MurrayJohn Craig Geddes
The population infobox in the demographics section says 'Historical populations (in thousands)', when I'm pretty sure Syria's population is in the millions. Fix it please, thanks -- 68.118.202.114 ( talk) 15:07, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
This heading is still wrong. The (in thousands) text needs to be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.221.168 ( talk) 05:50, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Could we please be fair-minded enough to substitute the villifying word regime (with it's tyrannous connotations) for government? This is after all an encyclopaedia. Beingsshepherd ( talk) 02:21, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
How much rubles has Putin funneled to your bank account? They are losing value soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.202.170 ( talk) 05:15, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
So, when it comes to Syria, it would seem that Wikipedia are not fair-minded enough to substitute the villifying word regime for government. But it will allow uncalled insults to be made against Russia. Not that there is any pro-US regime agenda here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.71.254.90 ( talk) 22:16, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
Indeed it is worrying the issue you raise. It seems this is not an encyclopaedia anymore and is run by fanatics from both sides Green beret1972 ( talk) 15:10, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. Shhhhwwww!! ( talk) 00:43, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
– No WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The name "Syria" can also refer to the Syrian region, Assyria, Roman Syria and Syria-Palaestina. Shhhhwwww!! ( talk) 21:44, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
There are claims that due to split of Syria (Ba'ath, Sunni Opposition, Kurdish autonomy, Jihadist forces) and invasion (ISIL) - Syria can no longer be considered a nation-state, but rather a failed state - like Yemen, Libya and Iraq. There are multiple sources to support this [10], [11], [12], [13]. I suggest to add this into leading section. GreyShark ( dibra) 20:18, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
You dont need an rfc,This isnt a democracy.. you cant declare a failed state and its not up to your "judgment".. your "sources" that you really looked hard to find with weird determenation arent authoritive to declare a failed state... anyway, most of syria is under the control of the republic unless you count the desert... the state is regaining lands and you are mistaken.. salaries are still being paid..arab league is a joke.. even unicef have more authority and syria is a full part of the international community. maybe your dream of the collapse of syria might happen someday.. but you need to wait.-- Attar-Aram syria ( talk) 14:58, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria border, Moscow denies air space violation [17]
Turkmen Mountain War Gunshots are being also heard from Yayladağı district.
It is stated that elders and children especially in Bayırbucak region where mostly the young Turkmens live, move beside to Turkish border but not to Turkey because they do not want to leave their homes. Sometimes the Syrian regime sometimes the Turkmen side maintains control over coastal Bucak region. Turkmens had to retreat from a part of Bucak region due to airstrikes. Turkmen 2nd Coastal Division controls a 40km-region from Ğimem to Acısu Region [18]
Russia, Assad regime continue pounding Turkmen Mountain Russia aims to make Assad more powerful ahead of negotiations with opposition, Turkmen leader says
- Turkmen Mountain
The head of Turkmen Parliament in Syria, Abdurrahman Mustafa, says that various motivations lay behind Russia’s rising attacks against Turkmen Mountain.
Strategic importance of Bayirbucak
The Red Mountain, about five kilometers [just over three miles] from the Turkish border, has the strategic importance of being the highest peak in the region. [19] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.140.225.59 ( talk) 14:14, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Russia shoots innocent civilians, Russian airstrikes hit children in Qur'an course in Syria Russian airstrikes hit a Qur'an course and a refugee camp; scores of people killed and injured
Russian airstrikes hit children in Qur'an course in Syria
Russia and Assad Accused of Shelling Syrian Refugee Camp Near Turkish Border
"The Russian airstrikes Turkmen Mountain — Preceding
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...and we all believe Vice News. 79.71.254.90 ( talk) 23:07, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
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Dumat al-Jandal has nothing to do with Dūmā, the former being in Saudi Arabia and the latter in Damascus suburbs. Please delete this whole paragraph (During Muhammad's era) as it's not related to Syria. Ghaylan de Damas ( talk) 15:50, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi there, I was struck by the map of the Syrian Civil War. The use of colours is not neutral.
Culturally speaking, red and green, when used together, symbolise "enemies" and "allies" respectively. The suggestion of the map is that the Syrian government are our "enemies" while the Syrian rebels are our "allies." This is not neutral.
I've changed the colour of the Syrian government from red to blue. Blue and green are rarely seen to be opposing colours in the same way, though they are clearly different enough from each other that one can tell one side of the conflict from the other. I'm linking the file here.
I'd be very grateful if someone could replace the picture that's currently there with this one, thereby restoring proper neutrality to the article.
Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.147.203.172 ( talk) 23:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
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(Sayyidah Zaynab) Religious zone in Damascus: Created by Iraqi immigrants since 2004, and Shia Muslims from Iran, Hezbollah, and Iraqi Shia.
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The article is too old and does not talk about ISIS (the global terrorist organisation) عراف الجبل ( talk) 06:05, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
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Syrian Civil War Main article: Syrian Civil War The ongoing Syrian Civil War was inspired by the Arab Spring revolutions. It began in 2011 as a chain of peaceful protests, followed by a crackdown by the Syrian Army.[89] In July 2011, army defectors declared the formation of the Free Syrian Army and began forming fighting units. The opposition is dominated by Sunni Muslims, whereas the leading government figures are Alawites.[90] According to various sources, including the United Nations, up to 100,000 people had been killed by June 2013,[91][92][93] including 11,000 children.[94] To escape the violence, over 2.1 million Syrian refugees have fled to neighboring countries of Jordan,[95] Iraq,[96] Lebanon, and Turkey.[97][98] An estimated 450,000 Syrian Christians have fled their homes.[99] As the civil war has dragged on, there have been worries that the country could become fragmented and cease to function as a state.[100]
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Syrian Civil War Main article: Syrian Civil War The ongoing Syrian Civil War was inspired by the Arab Spring revolutions. It began in 2011 as a chain of peaceful protests, followed by a crackdown by the Syrian Army.[89] In July 2011, army defectors declared the formation of the Free Syrian Army and began forming fighting units. The opposition is dominated by Sunni Muslims, whereas the leading government figures are Alawites.[90] According to various sources, including the United Nations, up to 100,000 people had been killed by June 2013,[91][92][93] including 11,000 children.[94] To escape the violence, almost 4.8 million [sources http://syrianrefugees.eu and United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) ] Syrian refugees have fled to neighboring countries of Jordan,[95] Iraq,[96] Lebanon, Turkey,[97] and Egypt[98] An estimated 450,000 Syrian Christians have fled their homes.[99] As the civil war has dragged on, there have been worries that the country could become fragmented and cease to function as a state.[100]
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There's no evidence that the largest city of Syria is Damascus. Population of Aleppo can be still as much as 1.8 million, larger than the last recorded population of Damascus. Note the Damascus' metropolitan area(near 3 million) is not the same as the city itself. Please remove the "largest city" line in the infobox if there is still no reference. Esiymbro ( talk) 17:51, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
wow, big article about the Syrian presidential election, 2014 and not even a simple link here? --Hoffmansk 09:41, 14 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoffmansk ( talk • contribs)
All articles related to alleged " Rojava" are presenting a PYD opinion as facts. Human rights in Rojava and Shahba region are great examples for this. In addition, there is a lot of original research and blackwashing happening here. Due to the contributions of 2 or 3 POV editors, Wikipedia looks like a mirror of PYD and other Kurdish propaganda sites. You may be inbterested in the discussion here. Thanks, Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم ( talk) 02:21, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
You can't edit this page and obviously this stinks censorship. Also the Aramaic speaking minority has been forgotten and the language is not even on the language list. Someone need to do something about this bias page. PrivateInvestigator ( talk) 14:25, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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The article says "Western Aramaic-speakers living all over the country,[citation needed] particularly in major urban centers". Really? I think that western aramaic only is spoken in 3 villages. I wonder if there is a confusion between "Western Armaic-speakers" and "Western Syriac Rite" (both the practioners of Western Syriac Rite and of Eastern Syriac Rite are (or at least were) Eastern Aramaic-speakers-- MiguelMadeira ( talk) 12:06, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
For years, Syria has been the scene of a bloody civil war resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, and the destruction of entire cities. The recent image donation by the Nationaal Museum van Wereldculturen (the National Museum of World Cultures) in the Netherlands shows another Syria. Many of these photos were taken in the 1980s and show scenes of daily life and images and cities not yet devastated by war. Other images show objects from the collection of the museum. Together, they form a valuable resource on Syria for the various Wikimedia projects. The upload consists of 352 photos in total and can be accessed here. It coincides with a photo exhibition in the NMvW on Aleppo. The upload was part of the project The Netherlands and the World, which aims to make accessible Dutch collections on non-European heritage. Kind regards, -- AWossink ( talk) 10:49, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Below the map of the military situation in Syria, it lists the different sides of the conflict. It refers to the Syrian Government as the Ba'athist Syrian Forces. This seems to violate neutrality, as it is removing the idea of it being a central government and associates it purely with Ba'athism. I could understand why Syrian Government might be a little biased, as it implies this is the legitimate government, so perhaps a name like Assad Government would work or something along those lines.--Yeti of Miak (talk) 14:30, 15 June 2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yet of Miak ( talk • contribs)
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Can we have a consensus to add Russian language for Syria despite not being in the constitution. One article on the Guardian read that one "Syrian ambassador in Moscow, Riyad Haddad, said Bashar al-Assad had also made Russian the second language in Syria, and had donated land near Damascus for a Russian school to be built." Supreme Dragon ( talk) 13:13, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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Wikipedia's policy on article titles.I would like to add a UNESCO image File:A16 Palmira - Tetrapilo 816.jpg to this page, but I do not know if I can put it or I could have sanctions. P.s i here on en.wp i do not have 500 edits but they are admin in some projects and i am global rollback. Thank you. (If you answer me tell me). -- Samuele2002 ( talk) 18:51, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Might it be possible for someone to add links to the 'French language' and 'English language' article pages in the Languages section where they are mentioned? 2A02:C7D:51AC:5000:FC4E:4B47:9421:6569 ( talk) 16:40, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
I am well aware that Syria is an authoritarian regime and its not the freest country in the world. But can someone drop the term "totalitarian dictatorship"? Unless I am missing something, Baathist Syria is not a totalitarian dictatorship in the sense of North Korea or other historical totalitarian regimes. Yes the regime is dictatorial but I don't know if we should classify Syria as a totalitarian dictatorship just because the Baath Party and the Assad regime isn't the most pleasant state around. Hell a lot better than North Korea if I had a gun up to my head and I had to choose between which one is "better". I'd choose Syria. Sorry to sound snippy or if I have an agenda, I don't have one. I think its justifiable to label the DPRK as a totalitarian dictatorship, it fits the description of a totalitarian regime but with Syria, that's debatable. I think we should a less biased term to describe the Syrian regime.
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Change Syria's population density ranking.
On the Syria page it is listed as: 101st.
At the following place it is listed as 111th. /info/en/?search=List_of_countries_and_territories_by_population_density but this list includes 246 territories, each with a separate ranking.
While the lists for area and population only have numbered rankings for sovereign territories: /info/en/?search=List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area /info/en/?search=List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population For these two lists, dependent territories aren't a part of the number ranking.
Also, since Syria is 64th in population size and 87th in area size you would think it's population density ranking would be a lower number than 64... but instead it's above 100.
This is partially explained by there being a lot of islands of small area with high population density, but most of these Islands aren't sovereign.
I think the difference in how the first article includes both sovereign and dependent areas while the other lists don't include dependent territories as a part of the numerical order is causing a discrepancy. It might be helpful if these lists all only gave numerical rankings to sovereign nations. There could be other lists that include both dependent and independent areas. Just an idea Donarkese12 ( talk) 05:02, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
There A New Speaker of the People's Council of Syria Now And his name is Najdat Anzour you have to edit that RaoufAlbeni ( talk) 01:58, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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The claim that the name "Syria" is derived from the epithet "Sirion" used by the Sidonians as an epithet for Mt. Hermon is a fringe theory that should not be cited first as a possible etymology, but rather, last, if at all. There is no evidence that this name for Mt. Hermon ("Sirion") was ever applied to the country Syria as a whole, and the reference cited in this article to this alleged etymology is from a media article by Daniel Pipes. On the other hand, the link between between the names "Assyria" and "Syria" in ancient texts, such as ancient Greek, and the bilingual Luwian-Phoenician Çineköy inscription, is overwhelming favored by the academic community, and thus this should be cited first in the Etymology section. This article should also mention the explicit linkage of "Syrian" with "Assyrian" mentioned in Herodotus, Book 7, Chapter 63, Section 1: "The Assyrians in the army wore on their heads helmets of twisted bronze made in an outlandish fashion not easy to describe...They are called by the Greeks Syrians, but the foreigners called them Assyrians." Jacob D ( talk) 16:20, 3 December 2017 (UTC)Jacob D
Note: Mark Mercer has been
confirmed as a sockpuppet of
User:Hamath-Zobah 17 and
several others including but not limited to CadAPL, Aemilius 04, and Amorite Mercenary, following an investigation I launched a few hours ago. He is notorious for disruptive, copyright-violating and pro-Christian anti-Muslim biased editing, especially regarding Syrian history, and trying to circumvent blocks by creating yet another sockpuppet and resume editing the same articles. Mark Mercer's account was blocked a few hours ago. Seeing the person's history, we should be wary of him coming back under yet another different name.
I have decided to delete any mention of the Sirion fringe theory from this page, and move the edited text to the
Name of Syria article, where I also moved it further down. It may yet be of some value, but only if at least some mainstream scholars take it seriously. I'm not going to investigate that now, but anyone is free to do so.
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There are lots of unverified hearsay in this article, I vote that it be cleaned up. Otherwise this is not usable as a reference.
This is but one thing that is completely irrelevant unless you want to support the propaganda defaming Syria. " August 2013, the government was suspected of using chemical weapons against its civilians. US Secretary of State John Kerry said it was "undeniable" that chemical weapons had been used in the country and that President Bashar al-Assad's forces had committed a "moral obscenity" against his own people. "Make no mistake," Kerry said. "President Obama believes there must be accountability for those who would use the world's most heinous weapon against the world's most vulnerable people. Nothing today is more serious, and nothing is receiving more serious scrutiny".[136]"
Does this mean that any foreign politician can make baseless accusations and have them written into a wikipedia article? Must I also remind you that Obama is the american president with the most wars while in office? please think before using propaganda in an article. 5.186.127.245 ( talk) 15:46, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
"Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y"Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:45, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Can anyone defend why the discussion on UN/Golan Heights takes up such a large part of the lede paragraph? It seems like that would belong a bit better later on in the article. ChunyangD ( talk) 21:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC) ChunyangD ( talk) 21:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
The sentence:
"The modern Syrian state was established after the end of centuries of Ottoman control in World War I as a French mandate, and represented the largest Arab state to emerge from the formerly Ottoman-ruled Arab Levant."
The sentence is not sourced and may not suit reality - Egypt was also legally Ottoman-ruled until 1914 and it is larger than Syrian Republic; in addition, originally Syria as a multi-ethnic country was not named "Arab" with Kurdish and Turkmen politicians playing a significant roles in Mandatory Syria and early independent Syria; only in 1958 Syria became named "Arab" due to union with Egypt into "United Arab Republic" and n 1961 split into "Arab Republic of Syria". I've meanwhile changed the sentence into "The modern Syrian state was established in mid-20th century after centuries of Ottoman and a brief period French mandate, and represented the largest Arab state to emerge from the formerly Ottoman-ruled Arab Levant." but "largest Arab" state is probably incorrect. GreyShark ( dibra) 08:30, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
There is a clear consensus that this article's lead should not include Ba'athist Syria as one of the common names of the Syrian Arab Republic.
I would like to ask editors whether this article lead should include Ba'athist Syria as one of the common names of the Syrian Arab Republic. Currently it is still a consensus that Syria refers to the Syrian Arab Republic, which is a unitary geopolitical entity (state) ruled by the al-Assad dynasty on behalf of the Syria-based Ba'ath Party, which is ruling Syrian Arab Republic since the 1963 coup d'etat. In a very similar case for Iraq during the Ba'athist period 1968-2003 the country article is named Ba'athist Iraq. Furthermore, Ba'athist Syria is a very common term in media and scholar literature to refer to the Ba'ath ruled Syrian Arab Republic's territory, population and military (see Quicksilver War: Syria, Iraq and the Spiral of Conflict 2018, Class and Capitalism in Syria 2016, Everyday Arab Identity: The Daily Reproduction of the Arab World 2013, Greater Syria: The History of an Ambition 1992), to differentiate it from pre-1963 Syrian Republic and from other modern Syrian entities of the Syrian Civil War, such as North Syria Federation and Syrian Opposition (rebel members also often use Syrian Arab Republic as self-designated descriptory term). Please comment whether you think Ba'athist Syria should or should not be included in lead section per WP:COMMONNAME and whether it should be bolded or not. GreyShark ( dibra) 13:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Agrarian reform measures were introduced into Syria which consisted of three interrelated programs: Legislation regulating {regulation} the relationship between agricultural {agriculture} laborers and landowners; {:} legislation governing the ownership and use of private and state domain land and directing the economic organization of peasants; and measures reorganizing agricultural production under state control.[150] Despite high levels of inequality in land ownership these reforms allowed for more progress in redistribution of land from 1958 to 1961 than any other reforms in Syria's history, since independence.
The first law was passed (Law 134; passed 4 September 1958) in response to concerns {concern} about peasant mobilization and expanding peasants' rights.[151] This was designed to strengthen the position of sharecroppers and agricultural laborers in relation to land owners.[151] This law led {lead} to the creation of the Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs, which announced the implementation of new laws that would allow for the regulation of working conditions, {condition} especially for women and adolescents, set hours of work, and introduced {introduce} the principle of minimum wage for paid laborers and an equitable division of harvest for sharecroppers.[152] Furthermore, it obligated landlords to honor both written and oral contracts, established collective bargaining {barging}, and contained provisions for workers' compensation, health, housing, and employment services.[151] Law 134 was not designed strictly to protect workers. It also acknowledged the rights of landlords to form their own syndicates.[151] 173.164.68.154 ( talk) 05:24, 27 April 2018 (UTC)George Neally
Hello, there is a RfC at the White Helmets Talk page which may interest people on this here. - GPRamirez5 ( talk) 06:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC) GPRamirez5 ( talk) 06:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
There is currently an RfC on Foreign involvement in the Syrian Civil War which editors here may wish to weigh in on. Best, GPRamirez5 ( talk) 15:48, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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