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What is exactly the population of the Spanish diaspora?
I know it is tough to answer but at least a range of estimates must be given by some outside source(s). ThisguyYEAH ( talk) 02:32, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
=== United States has 10,017,244 descendants [1] === And 80% of Mexicans have Spanish ancestry is absurd. You confuden that Mexicans are indomestizos (75% indigenous and 25% Hispanic), both in the Philippines where the majority are Asian. In an American of African descent with the name Brown they do not consider English diaspora, then the same should apply in this diapora
brazil have the most spanish descents in all world - in the anciet centuries (xvi, xvii, etc), the majority of this population was in northeastern and sao paulo (anciet surnames bueno, camargo, etc is from anciet spanish in brazil) but the last imigration was in sao paulo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.64.32.15 ( talk) 18:29, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
in recent times spaniards like very tourism in northeastern brazil and living too - spaniards founded cities in brazil (joao pessoa, sao cristovao etc - all in northeast) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.64.32.15 ( talk) 18:31, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
"...result of its technical superiority..." This sentence is overly simplistic and not entirely accurate as it omits many facets of the what is referred to as the conquest which were events that lasted decades and in some cases centuries. Firstly in the early stages most of the 'conquerors' were overwhelmingly other indigenous warriors. Secondly in the following years introduced Old World diseases wiped out a large portion of the native population (including native allies), far more than actual warfare and whatever primitive gun technology was used in Europe at the time. These circumstances are what allowed Westernized biracials to thrive at the expense of those of pure (or almost) indigenous ancestry who either died or were left physically weakened by these pandemics. Mestizos who've outnumbered those of pure European ancestry since European colonization, gradually gained the ascendancy over the years and absorbed/assimilated the remainder of the native population over a long period of time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:388:6080:289:89F5:276:C619:BAB8 ( talk) 08:47, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
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help)I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 17:36, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes Asilah, it's not unlikely that a Latin American with a Spanish surname has no Spanish ancestry at all, and I remember distinctly such cases for instance in Argentina (natives called José López or similar names). And WP:NOTSOURCE is not something to joke about. If the current references are BS (bullshit?), at least someone took the time to search for them. -- Jotamar ( talk) 16:23, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
I am not convinced there is an actual number for this. An editor added sources for a figure of 231 million outside of Spain. The sources don't seem to go anywhere though. We should not be putting up information that is unsourced so unless someone has studied this and published a figure, we probably should not have one at all. Note that these figures often seem to cause edit warring, but if editors cannot agree a figure that is true and have several different figures, this does rather suggest a true figure is not known. Any thoughts? -- Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
About 86% of Argentinians have at least partial Spanish ancestry. -- 190.183.247.93 ( talk) 04:50, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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What is exactly the population of the Spanish diaspora?
I know it is tough to answer but at least a range of estimates must be given by some outside source(s). ThisguyYEAH ( talk) 02:32, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
=== United States has 10,017,244 descendants [1] === And 80% of Mexicans have Spanish ancestry is absurd. You confuden that Mexicans are indomestizos (75% indigenous and 25% Hispanic), both in the Philippines where the majority are Asian. In an American of African descent with the name Brown they do not consider English diaspora, then the same should apply in this diapora
brazil have the most spanish descents in all world - in the anciet centuries (xvi, xvii, etc), the majority of this population was in northeastern and sao paulo (anciet surnames bueno, camargo, etc is from anciet spanish in brazil) but the last imigration was in sao paulo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.64.32.15 ( talk) 18:29, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
in recent times spaniards like very tourism in northeastern brazil and living too - spaniards founded cities in brazil (joao pessoa, sao cristovao etc - all in northeast) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.64.32.15 ( talk) 18:31, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
"...result of its technical superiority..." This sentence is overly simplistic and not entirely accurate as it omits many facets of the what is referred to as the conquest which were events that lasted decades and in some cases centuries. Firstly in the early stages most of the 'conquerors' were overwhelmingly other indigenous warriors. Secondly in the following years introduced Old World diseases wiped out a large portion of the native population (including native allies), far more than actual warfare and whatever primitive gun technology was used in Europe at the time. These circumstances are what allowed Westernized biracials to thrive at the expense of those of pure (or almost) indigenous ancestry who either died or were left physically weakened by these pandemics. Mestizos who've outnumbered those of pure European ancestry since European colonization, gradually gained the ascendancy over the years and absorbed/assimilated the remainder of the native population over a long period of time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:388:6080:289:89F5:276:C619:BAB8 ( talk) 08:47, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Spanish diaspora's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "census.gov":
{{
cite web}}
: Cite uses generic title (
help)I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 17:36, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes Asilah, it's not unlikely that a Latin American with a Spanish surname has no Spanish ancestry at all, and I remember distinctly such cases for instance in Argentina (natives called José López or similar names). And WP:NOTSOURCE is not something to joke about. If the current references are BS (bullshit?), at least someone took the time to search for them. -- Jotamar ( talk) 16:23, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
I am not convinced there is an actual number for this. An editor added sources for a figure of 231 million outside of Spain. The sources don't seem to go anywhere though. We should not be putting up information that is unsourced so unless someone has studied this and published a figure, we probably should not have one at all. Note that these figures often seem to cause edit warring, but if editors cannot agree a figure that is true and have several different figures, this does rather suggest a true figure is not known. Any thoughts? -- Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
About 86% of Argentinians have at least partial Spanish ancestry. -- 190.183.247.93 ( talk) 04:50, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Spanish immigration to Paraguay and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 6#Spanish immigration to Paraguay until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 19:32, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Spanish immigration to Panama and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 6#Spanish immigration to Panama until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 19:35, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Spanish immigration to Nicaragua and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 6#Spanish immigration to Nicaragua until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 19:35, 6 February 2022 (UTC)