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In case anyone is wondering, or willing to debate my most recent edit, The UK Slow Food foundation was created recently, and here is a link to the Sloweb article about Slow Food UK. This article comes from Google, but the publication date is December, hence the wording of my editing. I'll change my diction on new years eve, I promise!
-- Civilcasualty 18:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I will update numbers when I hear back from SF UK. Archolman User talk:Archolman 19:29, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Fuzzy distinctions here at present between the concept (slow food), the sociocultural movement (slow food movement), and the formal organization (Slow Food). Any suggestions for how to make this clearer? Also, is/are the Slow Food organization(s) formally incorporated? (where?) for profit? as not-for-profit organization(s)? Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld ( talk) 10:01, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Slow Science which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 01:30, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved ( non-admin closure). sst✈ (speak now) 08:16, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Slow Food →
Slow food – [Update: But see split proposal added.] The topic is not an organization but a generalized movement or approach, thus not a
proper name, and should be lower-cased per
MOS:ISMCAPS, and
WP:CONSISTENCY policy. See already:
slow movement (culture),
slow architecture,
slow cinema,
slow design,
slow education,
slow gardening,
slow living,
slow marketing,
slow parenting,
slow photography,
slow programming,
slow reading,
slow television. The only other one that needs to be down-cased is
Slow Science, covered in its own RM. (
Slow Money should remain uppercased because, like
Cittaslow, it's the legal name of an organization, thus a proper name. If that article is rewritten to cover the concept or social movement of "slow money", not just that specific organization's work, it too would be down-cased.) Every single other "slow movement" article is lower-cased. To pre-address the most obvious objection: It doesn't matter that materials from within the movement upper-case it. That is true of virtually everything covered at MOS:ISMCAPS, and the rationale is invalid because of
WP:INDY. It is also the
WP:Specialized style fallacy to suggest that WP is bound to capitalize things, for a general audience, the same way specialized publications do for an insider audience, and this is even more true of "isms" than it is of things like sciences and occupations, because the capitalization by the adherents of doctrines is inherently promotional and thus a
WP:NPOV problem. —
SMcCandlish ☺
☏
¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 12:29, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Additional rationales:
Added (after the first response below, by Sionk) 03:07, 25 January 2016 (UTC), — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼
This is basically a WP:DABCONCEPT page that's not written like one, leading to a WP:COATRACK or two-topics-one-article problem. If the Italian and somewhat internationalized organization is clearly notable in its own right, so it should be at it own article, at Slow Food (organization) (capitalized like that because it's a proper noun). @ Sionk: what do you think about a split? — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 03:07, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
This lead of the article could be longer and use citations – four factual statements are made in it but without any reference. They are also paraphrased from the “about us” section of the Slow Food organisation website. The cited source, for example in reference 1. and 2., is often the official website of the movement, which may not be a reliable source. This is especially true considering that the topic should address the movement as a bigger picture itself rather than the “Slow Food” organisation. There are several claims that still require citations, particularly statements like “As of 2013, Slow Food USA has a membership of roughly 12,000, down from over 30,000 in 2008” that have statistics in them. The “Critcisms” section, although well-cited, needs more diverse points of view because it currently includes only one voice. Hashmita7 ( talk) 04:58, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Why did the amount of Slow Food chapters decrease from 2011 to now? Were the Slow Food chapters unsuccessful in getting people to see the benefits of a more fresh and healthy diet? Was there not enough funding for the existing slow food chapters? ( LOL190 ( talk) 05:58, 5 March 2017 (UTC))
How did Slow Food become popular in San Francisco? When was Slow Food introduced to San Francisco? Why was it dubbed Slow Food Nation in 2008? ( 107.0.48.208 ( talk) 22:25, 5 March 2017 (UTC))
What does Slow Food do in Japan? Does it have the similar Forgotten Foods fairs that other countries have? Where is the largest Slow Food city in Japan? ( LOL190 ( talk) 22:35, 5 March 2017 (UTC))
The Slow Food article could say more about Chipotle’s partnership with Slow Food USA. The source for Chipotle’s partnership has a lot of good information that could be added to the article. The link for the second reference “Slow Food History” doesn’t work. That should be fixed. A citation is needed in the “Organization” section of the article. A citation is also needed in the “Objectives” section of the article. A citation is also needed in the “United Kingdom” section of the article. Otherwise there are good sources, everything is relevant to the article, and it is neutral. — Atate27 ( talk) 19:13, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
This article did a good job at providing background knowledge and information on this subject. Splitting it up by country and highlighting the differences was good because it showed that each country is different. The socioeconomic section was a bit small, and I think there could be a lot more information about how this movement is viewed amongst the population as well as how it affects people. This movement could have several social implications and these should be looked into and could possibility be worth noting. Someone should also look at updating the sources. Several that I clicked on aren't there anymore saying "page not found". It also seems that out of what sources are working, most of them are from a slow food official webpage so the information could be biased and have an angle favoring slow food. Dz14 ( talk) 18:07, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
One section of the article that I found distracting was the piece on the past publicity efforts of Slow Food. I felt that the information was not as pertinent to the article.
Another section that I thought could be expanded upon was the objectives. I appreciated that all the objectives of the movement were stated but I felt that they could all be more in depth instead of a single sentence.
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 09:30, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
In case anyone is wondering, or willing to debate my most recent edit, The UK Slow Food foundation was created recently, and here is a link to the Sloweb article about Slow Food UK. This article comes from Google, but the publication date is December, hence the wording of my editing. I'll change my diction on new years eve, I promise!
-- Civilcasualty 18:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I will update numbers when I hear back from SF UK. Archolman User talk:Archolman 19:29, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Fuzzy distinctions here at present between the concept (slow food), the sociocultural movement (slow food movement), and the formal organization (Slow Food). Any suggestions for how to make this clearer? Also, is/are the Slow Food organization(s) formally incorporated? (where?) for profit? as not-for-profit organization(s)? Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld ( talk) 10:01, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Slow Science which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 01:30, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved ( non-admin closure). sst✈ (speak now) 08:16, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Slow Food →
Slow food – [Update: But see split proposal added.] The topic is not an organization but a generalized movement or approach, thus not a
proper name, and should be lower-cased per
MOS:ISMCAPS, and
WP:CONSISTENCY policy. See already:
slow movement (culture),
slow architecture,
slow cinema,
slow design,
slow education,
slow gardening,
slow living,
slow marketing,
slow parenting,
slow photography,
slow programming,
slow reading,
slow television. The only other one that needs to be down-cased is
Slow Science, covered in its own RM. (
Slow Money should remain uppercased because, like
Cittaslow, it's the legal name of an organization, thus a proper name. If that article is rewritten to cover the concept or social movement of "slow money", not just that specific organization's work, it too would be down-cased.) Every single other "slow movement" article is lower-cased. To pre-address the most obvious objection: It doesn't matter that materials from within the movement upper-case it. That is true of virtually everything covered at MOS:ISMCAPS, and the rationale is invalid because of
WP:INDY. It is also the
WP:Specialized style fallacy to suggest that WP is bound to capitalize things, for a general audience, the same way specialized publications do for an insider audience, and this is even more true of "isms" than it is of things like sciences and occupations, because the capitalization by the adherents of doctrines is inherently promotional and thus a
WP:NPOV problem. —
SMcCandlish ☺
☏
¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 12:29, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Additional rationales:
Added (after the first response below, by Sionk) 03:07, 25 January 2016 (UTC), — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼
This is basically a WP:DABCONCEPT page that's not written like one, leading to a WP:COATRACK or two-topics-one-article problem. If the Italian and somewhat internationalized organization is clearly notable in its own right, so it should be at it own article, at Slow Food (organization) (capitalized like that because it's a proper noun). @ Sionk: what do you think about a split? — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 03:07, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
This lead of the article could be longer and use citations – four factual statements are made in it but without any reference. They are also paraphrased from the “about us” section of the Slow Food organisation website. The cited source, for example in reference 1. and 2., is often the official website of the movement, which may not be a reliable source. This is especially true considering that the topic should address the movement as a bigger picture itself rather than the “Slow Food” organisation. There are several claims that still require citations, particularly statements like “As of 2013, Slow Food USA has a membership of roughly 12,000, down from over 30,000 in 2008” that have statistics in them. The “Critcisms” section, although well-cited, needs more diverse points of view because it currently includes only one voice. Hashmita7 ( talk) 04:58, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Why did the amount of Slow Food chapters decrease from 2011 to now? Were the Slow Food chapters unsuccessful in getting people to see the benefits of a more fresh and healthy diet? Was there not enough funding for the existing slow food chapters? ( LOL190 ( talk) 05:58, 5 March 2017 (UTC))
How did Slow Food become popular in San Francisco? When was Slow Food introduced to San Francisco? Why was it dubbed Slow Food Nation in 2008? ( 107.0.48.208 ( talk) 22:25, 5 March 2017 (UTC))
What does Slow Food do in Japan? Does it have the similar Forgotten Foods fairs that other countries have? Where is the largest Slow Food city in Japan? ( LOL190 ( talk) 22:35, 5 March 2017 (UTC))
The Slow Food article could say more about Chipotle’s partnership with Slow Food USA. The source for Chipotle’s partnership has a lot of good information that could be added to the article. The link for the second reference “Slow Food History” doesn’t work. That should be fixed. A citation is needed in the “Organization” section of the article. A citation is also needed in the “Objectives” section of the article. A citation is also needed in the “United Kingdom” section of the article. Otherwise there are good sources, everything is relevant to the article, and it is neutral. — Atate27 ( talk) 19:13, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
This article did a good job at providing background knowledge and information on this subject. Splitting it up by country and highlighting the differences was good because it showed that each country is different. The socioeconomic section was a bit small, and I think there could be a lot more information about how this movement is viewed amongst the population as well as how it affects people. This movement could have several social implications and these should be looked into and could possibility be worth noting. Someone should also look at updating the sources. Several that I clicked on aren't there anymore saying "page not found". It also seems that out of what sources are working, most of them are from a slow food official webpage so the information could be biased and have an angle favoring slow food. Dz14 ( talk) 18:07, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
One section of the article that I found distracting was the piece on the past publicity efforts of Slow Food. I felt that the information was not as pertinent to the article.
Another section that I thought could be expanded upon was the objectives. I appreciated that all the objectives of the movement were stated but I felt that they could all be more in depth instead of a single sentence.
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