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I see no harm in having the Polish name in the article, it seems to be used by several publications ( [1], [2]).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 22:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
How can a foreign (Polish) name of a clearly Lithuanian person stand on par with Lithuanian in the article lead? Did they all indeed have two names? Shall we name all Poles in Lithuanian as well? Iulius 18:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Firstly, a Polish language was not foreign. At that time most of the szlachta in the former GDL spoke Polish. The language of Vilniaus Universitetas was Polish, the language of church administration was Polish as well. Secondly, as to the VU document - indeed, it lists all names in two versions. Why shouldn't we? // Halibu tt 23:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
First I would like to see a exact quote from The "Lithuanian Metrica" in Moscow and Warsaw: Reconstructing the Archives of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Warsaw source and page number in order to verify the text, and to see the context in which this name is used. M.K. 06:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I would like to request an exact citation and translation from the Giedrius Subačius (6 2004) source, for support this edit. I have troubles opening the pdf file. M.K. 06:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I have obligation to inform that on 2007-11-06T22:44:25 was added source which should testify usage of Polish-Lithuanian writer, while the source actually says (as already noted [5]) an Polish-Lithuanian dictionary. This is the most evident disruption and neglect towards WP:OR. Now it is clear why the same contributor did not provided exact citation as requested. Contributors should be alerted by this new disruption practice. M.K. 12:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Could someone elaborate Because of the suppression of the Filomat and Filaret student movements at Vilnius University, he received his diploma in 1825. a little please. Not understandable without further knowledge. -- Gf1961 ( talk) 14:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Despite multiply contributors expressed dissatisfaction of certain information inclusion into this article in main space [8] [9] etc. etc. and on talk (see above) and despite the fact that there is not presented requested citations back from 7 November 2007 (!). I remove contested info. And another thing, this article about person not about his painting. M.K. ( talk) 14:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
According to many sources, including the Lithuanian source [10], his birth date is October 28. Is that wrong? Andres ( talk) 07:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
The painter of the portrait is Jonas Zenkevičius; this is verified news, based on the inspection of the original painting. I have these news directly from the present owner of the painting; there is painter's signature on the painting. Politics aside, I quote the Lithuanian version of the painter's name, and as to the Polish version, I do not know it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.219.45.2 ( talk) 14:08, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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I see no harm in having the Polish name in the article, it seems to be used by several publications ( [1], [2]).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 22:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
How can a foreign (Polish) name of a clearly Lithuanian person stand on par with Lithuanian in the article lead? Did they all indeed have two names? Shall we name all Poles in Lithuanian as well? Iulius 18:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Firstly, a Polish language was not foreign. At that time most of the szlachta in the former GDL spoke Polish. The language of Vilniaus Universitetas was Polish, the language of church administration was Polish as well. Secondly, as to the VU document - indeed, it lists all names in two versions. Why shouldn't we? // Halibu tt 23:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
First I would like to see a exact quote from The "Lithuanian Metrica" in Moscow and Warsaw: Reconstructing the Archives of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Warsaw source and page number in order to verify the text, and to see the context in which this name is used. M.K. 06:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I would like to request an exact citation and translation from the Giedrius Subačius (6 2004) source, for support this edit. I have troubles opening the pdf file. M.K. 06:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I have obligation to inform that on 2007-11-06T22:44:25 was added source which should testify usage of Polish-Lithuanian writer, while the source actually says (as already noted [5]) an Polish-Lithuanian dictionary. This is the most evident disruption and neglect towards WP:OR. Now it is clear why the same contributor did not provided exact citation as requested. Contributors should be alerted by this new disruption practice. M.K. 12:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Could someone elaborate Because of the suppression of the Filomat and Filaret student movements at Vilnius University, he received his diploma in 1825. a little please. Not understandable without further knowledge. -- Gf1961 ( talk) 14:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Despite multiply contributors expressed dissatisfaction of certain information inclusion into this article in main space [8] [9] etc. etc. and on talk (see above) and despite the fact that there is not presented requested citations back from 7 November 2007 (!). I remove contested info. And another thing, this article about person not about his painting. M.K. ( talk) 14:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
According to many sources, including the Lithuanian source [10], his birth date is October 28. Is that wrong? Andres ( talk) 07:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
The painter of the portrait is Jonas Zenkevičius; this is verified news, based on the inspection of the original painting. I have these news directly from the present owner of the painting; there is painter's signature on the painting. Politics aside, I quote the Lithuanian version of the painter's name, and as to the Polish version, I do not know it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.219.45.2 ( talk) 14:08, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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