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In addition to his admissions of bisexuality, surely the article should mention Burton's overt racism and anti-semitism? ( 92.11.142.51 ( talk) 19:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC))
Why? Haven't you read what Marlon Brando had to say about Burton's extremely racist behaviour? ( 92.11.142.51 ( talk) 20:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC))
Burton was both a racist and an anti-semite and there are lots of sources to prove it. And since Burton is long dead, none of his relatives can sue this site. ( 92.11.142.51 ( talk) 21:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC))
No, there are plenty of sources such as Brando's own autobiography in which he records Burton's extremely racist words, or Burton's brother Graham Jenkins' book "My Brother Richard Burton" in which he recalls Burton deliberately using the N-word in South Africa to cause offence. It might also be worth pointing out that filming "The Wild Geese" in South Africa under the apartheid regime was incredibly controversial in itself. ( 92.12.54.231 ( talk) 14:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC))
It might be a good idea to start new sections in the article entitled "Bisexuality" and "Allegations of Racism and Anti-semitism" in order to present a balanced picture of the subject. ( 92.10.219.56 ( talk) 15:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC))
"his entire spinal column was coated with crystallised alcohol and had to be rebuilt in a delicate operation (to be replaced by his friend Richard Harris)" Sounds like the spinal column was replaced.
{{ editsemiprotected}} spine was coated in "crystallised alcohol"? This was vandalism from 20 March 2009 and is still there. The earlier version, that he left the play early due to a back injury, is all that is needed.
Actually it is true, read Penny Junor's biography. Burton's spine had to be rebuilt in April 1981 because it was entirely coated in crystallised alcohol. His liver and kidneys were found to be damaged at the same time. The mythical "back injury" was the official explanation at the time, in an attempt to disguise the true severity of his illness. ( 92.11.33.26 ( talk) 19:39, 27 October 2009 (UTC))
Just needs a citation. Deb ( talk) 14:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
I think the biographies by Graham Jenkins and Penny Junor mention this. It's well known that Burton considered retiring completely after the operation, since he could no longer get insurance for movies. The surgery was for degenerative disease of the cervical spine, affecting all the cervical vertebrae, but it was indeed his alcoholism whichg had caused this.( LouisWalshFan ( talk) 14:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC))
I checked Junor's biography, she mentions that Burton's spinal column was "entirely coated" in crystallised alcohol, and that he could only have the operation after putting on weight at the hospital, since during the "Camelot" tour his weight had dropped from twelve stone to an alarmingly low nine stone. ( 92.9.166.4 ( talk) 02:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC))
The article can't be edited at the moment. ( 92.15.7.98 ( talk) 20:33, 31 October 2009 (UTC))
I see the mythical "back injury" information is still there. Why does the article still contain false information? ( RossMacCormick ( talk) 19:53, 11 November 2009 (UTC))
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It is said that Burton had a severe pain in the neck and had to wear a neck brace while rehearsing for "1984". Does anyone know what was wrong, did he have throat cancer? ( RossMacCormick ( talk) 13:19, 14 November 2009 (UTC))
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The Marcellus character (Burton) is not converted by his wife (Jean Simmons). She actually follows his lead. I am changing the page to correct it. -- Tony ( talk) 20:46, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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Why does the article say he was awarded a knighthood? Also, it is the government that gives honours, not the monarch. ( 92.11.217.30 ( talk) 17:57, 15 October 2009 (UTC))
Do you know whether it was Harold Wilson or Edward Heath who appointed Burton as a CBE? ( 92.9.89.93 ( talk) 13:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC))
The monarch cannot refuse any request though. ( 92.12.20.228 ( talk) 23:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC))
I added {{tl|archiveme}} to the top of the page because the page is obviously too long. -- Gh87 ( talk) 06:35, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
IIRC the Green Knight whose arms and legs were hacked off, but refused to 'yield' was played by a different Richard Burton who was a local [Silversmith] ? John Cleese mentioned it in his DVD voice-over ... Worth disambiguating, if not notable enough to be worth creating his own page ? -- 195.137.93.171 ( talk) 01:45, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Why is Burton's bisexuality not mentioned at all in the article? The article is apparently tagged under the GLBT collection. Burton admitted to being bisexual in an interview, he didn't 'try it once and didn't like it', he chose to have many same gender sexual experiences, at a time when it was illegal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.251.171 ( talk) 22:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
It's well known that he had sex with Philip Burton, the gay teacher who adopted him, and Emlyn Williams. ( HantersSpade ( talk) 20:58, 25 March 2011 (UTC))
It was very different in those days. Even Burton's family knew the relationship was sexual. Philip was considered an outcast because he was 40 and had never married. There was also much speculation over Richard's relationship with Brook Williams.( 92.7.16.142 ( talk) 12:37, 26 March 2011 (UTC))
This page is for discussing improvements to the article. Without sources, we have nothing to add. - SummerPhD ( talk) 17:54, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Graham Jenkins' book mentioned that the entire family were very suspicious of the true nature of the relationship between Richard and the middle-aged homosexual Philip Burton. ( 92.20.40.157 ( talk) 18:25, 26 March 2011 (UTC))
Philip Burton was 39 or 40, that counts as middle-aged. Was Brook Williams the man Richard was referring to in his 1975 interview? ( 92.7.19.128 ( talk) 17:06, 27 March 2011 (UTC))
Can this be reworded? I see that this has been discussed previously and it was apparently left in because of a reference in a biography by Penny Junor. 'Cristallisation of the entire spinal column by alcohol' is not a known medical entity, regardless of what a biographer may have written. Perhaps rewording could be placed making this phrase seem less definitive. News articles from the time stated he had a cervical laminectomy due to severe degenerative changes, which makes much more sense medically. I don't see how mention in a biography, presumably by someone who is not a physician, should merit this misinformation staying in here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebengreene ( talk • contribs) 18:42, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
I've removed it. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 04:07, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
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I believe it is important to mention that not only did his final wife ignore the wishes of him to be buried with Elizabeth Taylor, but also his dearest wish to have been buried in Wales where he was born. Burton's family was outraged at the fact that she chose to have him buried in Switzerland instead of back home in Pontrhydyfen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.131.134 ( talk) 15:27, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Need to be discussed first. I'm just a "pass by" admin here. :) So I don't have any opinion on any actual moves. But moving this to Richard Burton (disambiguation) caused 800 pages or so to point to the wrong page. That's too significant for it to be without discussion. -- User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 09:34, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
"suffereed" is a typo and "dependence upon pain" should be "dependence upon painkillers" presumably, but not knowing if that's true or not I figured just to mention it here rather than to make the edit...
"...notoriously heavy drinker, Burton suffereed ongoing back pain and a dependence upon pain..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.235.46 ( talk) 13:40, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
There is a lot of good, well-cited information here, but also uncited, fannish gossip. For basic biographical facts, I would suggest starting with Burtons official bio, and his official website: http://www.richardburton.com/burton_biog.pdf. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 20:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
In the section "Personal Life", final paragraph it states that there is a citation needed "Burton got along well with Churchill when he met him at a play in London,[citation needed] and kept a bust of him on his mantelpiece."
The source of this is I believe Burton's interview with Michael Parkinson in 1974. You can see the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcSuQf4RZWs
In this Burton recounts his meeting with Churchill while playing Hamlet at the Old Vic and he appears to recall the meeting with fondness and speaks about Churchill in a respectful manner.
Maybe somebody could update this if they agree it is correct. I am not able to amend the article myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.51.238.15 ( talk) 11:34, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
This is a link to the Parkinson interview conducted in 1974. In it Burton clearly had fond memories of Churchill and did not show any sense of disrespect or animosity as suggested by the information stated in this section: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcSuQf4RZWs. This section requires some revisions. Sylvia Ford ( talk) 07:54, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
This section needs fixing:
Grammy Award for Best Album for Children for narrating an adaptation of The Little Prince in 1976. 99.129.112.89 ( talk) 00:59, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Burton was honored Posthumously with Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame on March 1, 2013 [1] This should be acknowledged on the front page. Sylvia Ford ( talk) 19:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
should read: Burton died at age 58 from a brain hemorrhage — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.55.184.78 ( talk) 20:35, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
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The beginning of the second paragraph is in present tense. Please change it to "Burton REMAINED closely associated in the public consciousness with his second wife.........." DevashishAgarwal ( talk) 07:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Why list all of his Oscar nominations? That is for a separate section. And what does his having never been formally trained have to do with anything being Hollywood's highest paid actor? There were many superstars lacking training. What is formal training anyway? Jack Nicholdson was never "formally trained." Shemp Howard, Jr. ( talk) 02:59, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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Under stage productions please change the date beside Equus to (1976) It should read: Equus (1976) Steranko99 ( talk) 08:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
The introduction is unencyclopedic and full of POV. Also Burton was not the highest paid male actor in the late 1960s - Sean Connery, Paul Newman and Steve McQueen were. ( 92.11.201.66 ( talk) 18:41, 20 November 2013 (UTC))
It's currently referred to under "3.3 Later career" as "critically reviled", and under "3.5 Television" as "critically praised". "alyosha" (talk) 20:21, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
For his contribution to motion picture, Burton has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame located at 6336 Hollywood Boulevard, http://www.walkoffame.com/richard-burton. This should be clearly stated in the "Awards and Honors section." Sylvia Ford ( talk) 11:14, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
He was considered box office poison in Britain and in Hollywood (20th Century-Fox die not renew his contract) after LOOK BACK IN ANGER flopped. Sam Spiegel would never have offered it to Burton -- the film had one of the largest budgets in history. He signed Top 10 box office star William Holden to THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI, and wanted Brando (whom won an Oscar in Spiegel's ON THE WATERFRONT), as did David Lean, for the title role. Brando was in the Top 10 Box office stars in 1958. No history of the film says that Burton was even considered for the role, nor do his diaries. This is inaccurate and I am deleting it. Shemp Howard, Jr. ( talk) 02:53, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
In 1958 Burton indeed turned down the lead in "Lawrence of Arabia." There is no such claim as him being a box office poison (that was Katharine Hepburn and Brando from the 1950s till the 1970s) , by the 1960s he was the highest paid actor in Hollywood and ranked among the top ten box office grossing actors. In Britain he remained a top draw in British cinemas till the early 1970s [see notes for his filmography].
By the late 1950s, Burton made his frustration with Fox a no secret in Hollywood circles. Fox as always failed to grasp his talents and confined him to character and costume roles which he didn't enjoy and was seeking a way out of his contract with them {see Jean Howard's Hollywood: A Photo Memoir," Abrams 1989}. "Look back in Anger," was not a flop by any means and more importantly it was a critical triumph for Burton, and this is a very well known fact. The picture was an independent British production released in the US through Warner Bros. Sylvia Ford ( talk) 09:19, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
The health section focuses almost exclusively on alcoholism and its related after effects. It omits the fact that Burton was also a hemophiliac and suffered what is referred to as the MILD form of Hemophilia A (hemophlia A is a genetic deficiency in coagulation factor VIII; the MILD form is extremely difficult to diagnose and is often linked to slow clotting due to other issues such as diet and other weaknesses, some of which Burton suffered from). During one of his marriages with Liz Taylor, during a fight at their home, Burton punched the TV screen, shattering it, and cutting his hand. They were not able to stop the bleeding and the hemophilia condition was diagnosed at the hospital where he sought successful treatment. Because the MILD form is often evidenced by slow coagulation, but coagulation nonetheless, it often goes undiagnosed until there is a severe accident such as the TV screen accident. It is not unusual that a MILD hemophilia A patient would have played rugby because in his young adulthood the diagnosis was not yet known, and he apparently escaped serious injury that would have uncovered the diagnosis. He and Liz Taylor subsequent to the TV screen accident established a not for profit foundation to assist other hemophiliacs. That foundation became dormant after his death and it is thought that it ceased to exist after Liz Taylor's death. ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.224.68.200 ( talk) 16:11, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah the subject is pretty much the whole thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.24.195.116 ( talk) 21:54, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
I've added some specifics to where he was schooled in his early years and where he lived in Port Talbot.
Burton attended Eastern primary school whilst he lived with his Sister on Caradoc Street in Taibach. I've also named Port Talbot Grammar school instead of 'grammar school'.
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Should he be in the category American Actors? SoSivr ( talk) 03:43, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
In the article page he is introduced as a WELSH actor SoSivr ( talk) 12:30, 9 January 2015 (UTC) And the same page is a member of (Category:20th-century American male actors) . . . SoSivr ( talk) 12:36, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
It sounds strange that an actor was noted for his "acting talent"? ( 86.137.48.98 ( talk) 22:05, 17 March 2016 (UTC))
Burton was never one of the highest-paid stars, and in any case his viability as a box office attraction ended after "Where Eagles Dare", his last successful film. ( 217.42.27.166 ( talk) 12:49, 24 April 2016 (UTC))
I know it has two citations after it, but can it really be true that his parents married in a pub, the Miner's Arms? Until only about the last 20 years or so, all marriages in the UK had to be conducted either in a place of worship, or in a register office. It wasn't possible to get married in a pub back then, unless it was a common marriage ie a non-legal ceremony. If this is the case, it should be stated that it was a non-legal marriage ceremony. 19:40, 25 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.147.105.226 ( talk)
Burton was born in Pontrhydyfen, Glamorgan, Wales. The County of Neath Port Talbot was not created until 1996! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.99.55.233 ( talk) 12:43, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
It was Fisher himself who claimed Burton tried to seduce him in his two memoirs. ( 86.137.48.211 ( talk) 19:54, 27 December 2016 (UTC))
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If you read the TP discussion at the link you see "File:Richard Burton - The Robe.jpg No PD proof" in my signed post, so saying I "allowed it" is a misstatement. File:Frank Sinatra Von Ryan's Express.jpg is along the same lines, but it has full front & back archived as well as a date of publication. Newspaper archives can be searched to see if a newspaper published it. That would give a date and a copyright check; if the newspaper was not renewed the license could be changed to PD-not renewed. I can check one of the large archives and take care of that at Commons if it's found. This will keep my friend user:Ssven2 from spending time on discussions like this. Surprised to hear the pontificating about copyright in light of recent events. We hope ( talk) 14:09, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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The article does not make it fully clear that he was a Welsh speaker. I think he spoke English at home, but went to a Welsh-speaking school. If I remember rightly, I saw him saying this on television. He seemed to be very proud of his bilingualism, naturally enough. Can anyone document this? 12:30, 29 March 2017 (UTC) Seadowns ( talk)
It seems my memory is wrong about where he spoke Welsh, but the main point is that he could speak it, which I think might be made explicit. It adds something to him, as he seened to think himself. Seadowns ( talk) 22:25, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Where Eagles Dare is a British 1968 World War II action film starring Richard Burton, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.123.176 ( talk) 23:10, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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Please change "Richard Walter Jenkins Jr." and "Richard Walter Jenkins Sr." with "Richard Walter Jenkins"; the suffixes "Sr." and "Jr." did not exist in the United Kingdom at the time. Indeed, Burton's own birth certificate gives his name as "Richard Walter Jenkins". [1]
Please change the embedded quote "twelve-pints-a-day man" to "a twelve-pints-a-day man"
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The article says Burton began smoking and drinking while working at the Co-op. However various biographies state he was aleady smoking cigarettes before his 8th birthday in November 1933. ( Timon18 ( talk) 13:23, 5 July 2017 (UTC))
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Hi. This is my second account, I forgot the password to my first. I had contributed information regarding the estate of Richard Burton - this was reverted by ScrapIronIV who believed it to be irrelevant. I had begun to talk to them on their TalkPage but can no longer access my previous account to continue such a talk, and they have not responded either. I am requesting their reversion (dated 12 September 2018) be reverted on the basis of a clear consensus among editors that this IS a relevant detail. Below are a few examples of other people like Burton (similar in profession, era etc.) with the same details: - /info/en/?search=Tallulah_Bankhead#Retirement_and_death - /info/en/?search=Hedy_Lamarr#Later_years - /info/en/?search=Marlene_Dietrich#Estate - /info/en/?search=Judy_Garland#Death - /info/en/?search=Vincente_Minnelli#Death - /info/en/?search=Greta_Garbo#Death - /info/en/?search=Marie_Dressler#Death - /info/en/?search=John_Garfield#Death - /info/en/?search=Joan_Crawford#Death_and_legacy Many thanks and good wishes, Charlie Additional note: Am I supposed to provide any more detail to this, if so please do let me know (I'm still getting the hang of bits and pieces on here. Thank you :) Charlieh55Part2 ( talk) 10:31, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
@ Deb - it was the estate values :) - thank you L293D Charlieh55Part2 ( talk) 13:40, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
What is the rationale for referring to Burton as a "wastrel"? This seems like a highly subjective description of his life and career, and one that conflicts with the fact that he was one of the most famous and acclaimed actors of his generation.
He *was* one of the most acclaimed actors of his generation. He was also widely regarded as one of the greatest actors of his generation. What is intended here? E A ( talk) 12:35, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
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The final 2 sentences under "Personal Life" say this:
I have two concerns about these. Firstly, the cited reference for the final sentence is bald and states that Burton said his father "would be shocked if he knew I had travelled more than seven hundred miles to go to his funeral". It's wrong to suggest that it was a response to his father's lack of acknowledgement etc.
Secondly, Burton's father did not use the name Burton but continued with Jenkins for his entire life.
To remove these errors and improve the sentence, the final sentence could read something like this:
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In the section that describes Burton's role in the movie The Robe, it says Variety magazine termed the performances of the lead cast "effective" and complemented the fight sequences between Burton and Jeff Morrow.
The word "complemented" should be changed to complimented. 172.221.243.53 ( talk) 20:47, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Should Casa Kimberly be linked or mentioned anywhere in the article? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:28, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
the actress in the photograph and Burton's co star in the television program is Rosemary Harris. you can watch the whole program on you tube. Yvonne is not in the cast. 2600:1700:E120:3D70:F54D:45F6:4D59:2CBE ( talk) 04:38, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Night of the Iguana 1964 RonLopez123 ( talk) 21:32, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Before adding protections and templates, please millennial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Literaturegirl ( talk • contribs) 02:50, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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In addition to his admissions of bisexuality, surely the article should mention Burton's overt racism and anti-semitism? ( 92.11.142.51 ( talk) 19:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC))
Why? Haven't you read what Marlon Brando had to say about Burton's extremely racist behaviour? ( 92.11.142.51 ( talk) 20:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC))
Burton was both a racist and an anti-semite and there are lots of sources to prove it. And since Burton is long dead, none of his relatives can sue this site. ( 92.11.142.51 ( talk) 21:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC))
No, there are plenty of sources such as Brando's own autobiography in which he records Burton's extremely racist words, or Burton's brother Graham Jenkins' book "My Brother Richard Burton" in which he recalls Burton deliberately using the N-word in South Africa to cause offence. It might also be worth pointing out that filming "The Wild Geese" in South Africa under the apartheid regime was incredibly controversial in itself. ( 92.12.54.231 ( talk) 14:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC))
It might be a good idea to start new sections in the article entitled "Bisexuality" and "Allegations of Racism and Anti-semitism" in order to present a balanced picture of the subject. ( 92.10.219.56 ( talk) 15:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC))
"his entire spinal column was coated with crystallised alcohol and had to be rebuilt in a delicate operation (to be replaced by his friend Richard Harris)" Sounds like the spinal column was replaced.
{{ editsemiprotected}} spine was coated in "crystallised alcohol"? This was vandalism from 20 March 2009 and is still there. The earlier version, that he left the play early due to a back injury, is all that is needed.
Actually it is true, read Penny Junor's biography. Burton's spine had to be rebuilt in April 1981 because it was entirely coated in crystallised alcohol. His liver and kidneys were found to be damaged at the same time. The mythical "back injury" was the official explanation at the time, in an attempt to disguise the true severity of his illness. ( 92.11.33.26 ( talk) 19:39, 27 October 2009 (UTC))
Just needs a citation. Deb ( talk) 14:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
I think the biographies by Graham Jenkins and Penny Junor mention this. It's well known that Burton considered retiring completely after the operation, since he could no longer get insurance for movies. The surgery was for degenerative disease of the cervical spine, affecting all the cervical vertebrae, but it was indeed his alcoholism whichg had caused this.( LouisWalshFan ( talk) 14:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC))
I checked Junor's biography, she mentions that Burton's spinal column was "entirely coated" in crystallised alcohol, and that he could only have the operation after putting on weight at the hospital, since during the "Camelot" tour his weight had dropped from twelve stone to an alarmingly low nine stone. ( 92.9.166.4 ( talk) 02:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC))
The article can't be edited at the moment. ( 92.15.7.98 ( talk) 20:33, 31 October 2009 (UTC))
I see the mythical "back injury" information is still there. Why does the article still contain false information? ( RossMacCormick ( talk) 19:53, 11 November 2009 (UTC))
"The book awards the fictional "Golden Turkey Awards" to films that the Medveds feel are poor in quality, along with directors and actors judged to have created a chronically inept body of work. Readers will not necessarily agree with all their choices; however, the book almost exclusively showcases low-budget obscurities and exploitation films. A notable exception is the selection of Richard Burton as the worst actor ever, notwithstanding his star status and seven Academy Award nominations for acting; the authors justified their choice by assessing the cumulative merit of his good performances as being far outweighed by the sheer number of bad performances." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.178.228.88 ( talk) 07:25, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
It is said that Burton had a severe pain in the neck and had to wear a neck brace while rehearsing for "1984". Does anyone know what was wrong, did he have throat cancer? ( RossMacCormick ( talk) 13:19, 14 November 2009 (UTC))
Is this article semi-protected? I wasn't logged in and noticed that I couldn't edit anything. Shouldn't there be a template to that effect if it is? - DevOhm Talk 14:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
The Marcellus character (Burton) is not converted by his wife (Jean Simmons). She actually follows his lead. I am changing the page to correct it. -- Tony ( talk) 20:46, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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Why does the article say he was awarded a knighthood? Also, it is the government that gives honours, not the monarch. ( 92.11.217.30 ( talk) 17:57, 15 October 2009 (UTC))
Do you know whether it was Harold Wilson or Edward Heath who appointed Burton as a CBE? ( 92.9.89.93 ( talk) 13:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC))
The monarch cannot refuse any request though. ( 92.12.20.228 ( talk) 23:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC))
I added {{tl|archiveme}} to the top of the page because the page is obviously too long. -- Gh87 ( talk) 06:35, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
IIRC the Green Knight whose arms and legs were hacked off, but refused to 'yield' was played by a different Richard Burton who was a local [Silversmith] ? John Cleese mentioned it in his DVD voice-over ... Worth disambiguating, if not notable enough to be worth creating his own page ? -- 195.137.93.171 ( talk) 01:45, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Why is Burton's bisexuality not mentioned at all in the article? The article is apparently tagged under the GLBT collection. Burton admitted to being bisexual in an interview, he didn't 'try it once and didn't like it', he chose to have many same gender sexual experiences, at a time when it was illegal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.251.171 ( talk) 22:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
It's well known that he had sex with Philip Burton, the gay teacher who adopted him, and Emlyn Williams. ( HantersSpade ( talk) 20:58, 25 March 2011 (UTC))
It was very different in those days. Even Burton's family knew the relationship was sexual. Philip was considered an outcast because he was 40 and had never married. There was also much speculation over Richard's relationship with Brook Williams.( 92.7.16.142 ( talk) 12:37, 26 March 2011 (UTC))
This page is for discussing improvements to the article. Without sources, we have nothing to add. - SummerPhD ( talk) 17:54, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Graham Jenkins' book mentioned that the entire family were very suspicious of the true nature of the relationship between Richard and the middle-aged homosexual Philip Burton. ( 92.20.40.157 ( talk) 18:25, 26 March 2011 (UTC))
Philip Burton was 39 or 40, that counts as middle-aged. Was Brook Williams the man Richard was referring to in his 1975 interview? ( 92.7.19.128 ( talk) 17:06, 27 March 2011 (UTC))
Can this be reworded? I see that this has been discussed previously and it was apparently left in because of a reference in a biography by Penny Junor. 'Cristallisation of the entire spinal column by alcohol' is not a known medical entity, regardless of what a biographer may have written. Perhaps rewording could be placed making this phrase seem less definitive. News articles from the time stated he had a cervical laminectomy due to severe degenerative changes, which makes much more sense medically. I don't see how mention in a biography, presumably by someone who is not a physician, should merit this misinformation staying in here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebengreene ( talk • contribs) 18:42, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
I've removed it. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 04:07, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
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I believe it is important to mention that not only did his final wife ignore the wishes of him to be buried with Elizabeth Taylor, but also his dearest wish to have been buried in Wales where he was born. Burton's family was outraged at the fact that she chose to have him buried in Switzerland instead of back home in Pontrhydyfen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.131.134 ( talk) 15:27, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Need to be discussed first. I'm just a "pass by" admin here. :) So I don't have any opinion on any actual moves. But moving this to Richard Burton (disambiguation) caused 800 pages or so to point to the wrong page. That's too significant for it to be without discussion. -- User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 09:34, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
"suffereed" is a typo and "dependence upon pain" should be "dependence upon painkillers" presumably, but not knowing if that's true or not I figured just to mention it here rather than to make the edit...
"...notoriously heavy drinker, Burton suffereed ongoing back pain and a dependence upon pain..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.235.46 ( talk) 13:40, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
There is a lot of good, well-cited information here, but also uncited, fannish gossip. For basic biographical facts, I would suggest starting with Burtons official bio, and his official website: http://www.richardburton.com/burton_biog.pdf. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 20:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
In the section "Personal Life", final paragraph it states that there is a citation needed "Burton got along well with Churchill when he met him at a play in London,[citation needed] and kept a bust of him on his mantelpiece."
The source of this is I believe Burton's interview with Michael Parkinson in 1974. You can see the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcSuQf4RZWs
In this Burton recounts his meeting with Churchill while playing Hamlet at the Old Vic and he appears to recall the meeting with fondness and speaks about Churchill in a respectful manner.
Maybe somebody could update this if they agree it is correct. I am not able to amend the article myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.51.238.15 ( talk) 11:34, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
This is a link to the Parkinson interview conducted in 1974. In it Burton clearly had fond memories of Churchill and did not show any sense of disrespect or animosity as suggested by the information stated in this section: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcSuQf4RZWs. This section requires some revisions. Sylvia Ford ( talk) 07:54, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
This section needs fixing:
Grammy Award for Best Album for Children for narrating an adaptation of The Little Prince in 1976. 99.129.112.89 ( talk) 00:59, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Burton was honored Posthumously with Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame on March 1, 2013 [1] This should be acknowledged on the front page. Sylvia Ford ( talk) 19:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
should read: Burton died at age 58 from a brain hemorrhage — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.55.184.78 ( talk) 20:35, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
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The beginning of the second paragraph is in present tense. Please change it to "Burton REMAINED closely associated in the public consciousness with his second wife.........." DevashishAgarwal ( talk) 07:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Why list all of his Oscar nominations? That is for a separate section. And what does his having never been formally trained have to do with anything being Hollywood's highest paid actor? There were many superstars lacking training. What is formal training anyway? Jack Nicholdson was never "formally trained." Shemp Howard, Jr. ( talk) 02:59, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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Under stage productions please change the date beside Equus to (1976) It should read: Equus (1976) Steranko99 ( talk) 08:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
The introduction is unencyclopedic and full of POV. Also Burton was not the highest paid male actor in the late 1960s - Sean Connery, Paul Newman and Steve McQueen were. ( 92.11.201.66 ( talk) 18:41, 20 November 2013 (UTC))
It's currently referred to under "3.3 Later career" as "critically reviled", and under "3.5 Television" as "critically praised". "alyosha" (talk) 20:21, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
For his contribution to motion picture, Burton has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame located at 6336 Hollywood Boulevard, http://www.walkoffame.com/richard-burton. This should be clearly stated in the "Awards and Honors section." Sylvia Ford ( talk) 11:14, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
He was considered box office poison in Britain and in Hollywood (20th Century-Fox die not renew his contract) after LOOK BACK IN ANGER flopped. Sam Spiegel would never have offered it to Burton -- the film had one of the largest budgets in history. He signed Top 10 box office star William Holden to THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI, and wanted Brando (whom won an Oscar in Spiegel's ON THE WATERFRONT), as did David Lean, for the title role. Brando was in the Top 10 Box office stars in 1958. No history of the film says that Burton was even considered for the role, nor do his diaries. This is inaccurate and I am deleting it. Shemp Howard, Jr. ( talk) 02:53, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
In 1958 Burton indeed turned down the lead in "Lawrence of Arabia." There is no such claim as him being a box office poison (that was Katharine Hepburn and Brando from the 1950s till the 1970s) , by the 1960s he was the highest paid actor in Hollywood and ranked among the top ten box office grossing actors. In Britain he remained a top draw in British cinemas till the early 1970s [see notes for his filmography].
By the late 1950s, Burton made his frustration with Fox a no secret in Hollywood circles. Fox as always failed to grasp his talents and confined him to character and costume roles which he didn't enjoy and was seeking a way out of his contract with them {see Jean Howard's Hollywood: A Photo Memoir," Abrams 1989}. "Look back in Anger," was not a flop by any means and more importantly it was a critical triumph for Burton, and this is a very well known fact. The picture was an independent British production released in the US through Warner Bros. Sylvia Ford ( talk) 09:19, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
The health section focuses almost exclusively on alcoholism and its related after effects. It omits the fact that Burton was also a hemophiliac and suffered what is referred to as the MILD form of Hemophilia A (hemophlia A is a genetic deficiency in coagulation factor VIII; the MILD form is extremely difficult to diagnose and is often linked to slow clotting due to other issues such as diet and other weaknesses, some of which Burton suffered from). During one of his marriages with Liz Taylor, during a fight at their home, Burton punched the TV screen, shattering it, and cutting his hand. They were not able to stop the bleeding and the hemophilia condition was diagnosed at the hospital where he sought successful treatment. Because the MILD form is often evidenced by slow coagulation, but coagulation nonetheless, it often goes undiagnosed until there is a severe accident such as the TV screen accident. It is not unusual that a MILD hemophilia A patient would have played rugby because in his young adulthood the diagnosis was not yet known, and he apparently escaped serious injury that would have uncovered the diagnosis. He and Liz Taylor subsequent to the TV screen accident established a not for profit foundation to assist other hemophiliacs. That foundation became dormant after his death and it is thought that it ceased to exist after Liz Taylor's death. ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.224.68.200 ( talk) 16:11, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah the subject is pretty much the whole thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.24.195.116 ( talk) 21:54, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
I've added some specifics to where he was schooled in his early years and where he lived in Port Talbot.
Burton attended Eastern primary school whilst he lived with his Sister on Caradoc Street in Taibach. I've also named Port Talbot Grammar school instead of 'grammar school'.
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Should he be in the category American Actors? SoSivr ( talk) 03:43, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
In the article page he is introduced as a WELSH actor SoSivr ( talk) 12:30, 9 January 2015 (UTC) And the same page is a member of (Category:20th-century American male actors) . . . SoSivr ( talk) 12:36, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
It sounds strange that an actor was noted for his "acting talent"? ( 86.137.48.98 ( talk) 22:05, 17 March 2016 (UTC))
Burton was never one of the highest-paid stars, and in any case his viability as a box office attraction ended after "Where Eagles Dare", his last successful film. ( 217.42.27.166 ( talk) 12:49, 24 April 2016 (UTC))
I know it has two citations after it, but can it really be true that his parents married in a pub, the Miner's Arms? Until only about the last 20 years or so, all marriages in the UK had to be conducted either in a place of worship, or in a register office. It wasn't possible to get married in a pub back then, unless it was a common marriage ie a non-legal ceremony. If this is the case, it should be stated that it was a non-legal marriage ceremony. 19:40, 25 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.147.105.226 ( talk)
Burton was born in Pontrhydyfen, Glamorgan, Wales. The County of Neath Port Talbot was not created until 1996! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.99.55.233 ( talk) 12:43, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
It was Fisher himself who claimed Burton tried to seduce him in his two memoirs. ( 86.137.48.211 ( talk) 19:54, 27 December 2016 (UTC))
The image File:Richard Burton - The Robe.jpg is being removed as not being PD but it clearly is PD. The explanation given here did not explain it either, nor could it since even We Hope allowed it. An editor can not simply remove an image saying it's not PD based on their opinion or personal uncertainty. Please note also that it's being used in about 50 articles worldwide. And review Film still for copyright explanations of publicity photos. The U.S. has clear copyright rules about what's PD.-- Light show ( talk) 10:09, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
If you read the TP discussion at the link you see "File:Richard Burton - The Robe.jpg No PD proof" in my signed post, so saying I "allowed it" is a misstatement. File:Frank Sinatra Von Ryan's Express.jpg is along the same lines, but it has full front & back archived as well as a date of publication. Newspaper archives can be searched to see if a newspaper published it. That would give a date and a copyright check; if the newspaper was not renewed the license could be changed to PD-not renewed. I can check one of the large archives and take care of that at Commons if it's found. This will keep my friend user:Ssven2 from spending time on discussions like this. Surprised to hear the pontificating about copyright in light of recent events. We hope ( talk) 14:09, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
From legal: It is likely that promotional materials, including production stills or posters released to promote a movie, released before 1978 are in the public domain. Public domain status can be ascertained by asking several questions: Did the image contain a copyright notice? How was the exact image released? Was the image release “general” or “limited?”
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The article does not make it fully clear that he was a Welsh speaker. I think he spoke English at home, but went to a Welsh-speaking school. If I remember rightly, I saw him saying this on television. He seemed to be very proud of his bilingualism, naturally enough. Can anyone document this? 12:30, 29 March 2017 (UTC) Seadowns ( talk)
It seems my memory is wrong about where he spoke Welsh, but the main point is that he could speak it, which I think might be made explicit. It adds something to him, as he seened to think himself. Seadowns ( talk) 22:25, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Where Eagles Dare is a British 1968 World War II action film starring Richard Burton, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.123.176 ( talk) 23:10, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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Please change "Richard Walter Jenkins Jr." and "Richard Walter Jenkins Sr." with "Richard Walter Jenkins"; the suffixes "Sr." and "Jr." did not exist in the United Kingdom at the time. Indeed, Burton's own birth certificate gives his name as "Richard Walter Jenkins". [1]
Please change the embedded quote "twelve-pints-a-day man" to "a twelve-pints-a-day man"
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This text is taken from the Wikipedia article suffix: "In Britain these [suffixes] are more rare, but when they are used the abbreviations are "Jnr" and "Snr", respectively."— Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.251.240 ( talk) 09:04, June 23, 2017
The article says Burton began smoking and drinking while working at the Co-op. However various biographies state he was aleady smoking cigarettes before his 8th birthday in November 1933. ( Timon18 ( talk) 13:23, 5 July 2017 (UTC))
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Hi. This is my second account, I forgot the password to my first. I had contributed information regarding the estate of Richard Burton - this was reverted by ScrapIronIV who believed it to be irrelevant. I had begun to talk to them on their TalkPage but can no longer access my previous account to continue such a talk, and they have not responded either. I am requesting their reversion (dated 12 September 2018) be reverted on the basis of a clear consensus among editors that this IS a relevant detail. Below are a few examples of other people like Burton (similar in profession, era etc.) with the same details: - /info/en/?search=Tallulah_Bankhead#Retirement_and_death - /info/en/?search=Hedy_Lamarr#Later_years - /info/en/?search=Marlene_Dietrich#Estate - /info/en/?search=Judy_Garland#Death - /info/en/?search=Vincente_Minnelli#Death - /info/en/?search=Greta_Garbo#Death - /info/en/?search=Marie_Dressler#Death - /info/en/?search=John_Garfield#Death - /info/en/?search=Joan_Crawford#Death_and_legacy Many thanks and good wishes, Charlie Additional note: Am I supposed to provide any more detail to this, if so please do let me know (I'm still getting the hang of bits and pieces on here. Thank you :) Charlieh55Part2 ( talk) 10:31, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
@ Deb - it was the estate values :) - thank you L293D Charlieh55Part2 ( talk) 13:40, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
What is the rationale for referring to Burton as a "wastrel"? This seems like a highly subjective description of his life and career, and one that conflicts with the fact that he was one of the most famous and acclaimed actors of his generation.
He *was* one of the most acclaimed actors of his generation. He was also widely regarded as one of the greatest actors of his generation. What is intended here? E A ( talk) 12:35, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
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The final 2 sentences under "Personal Life" say this:
I have two concerns about these. Firstly, the cited reference for the final sentence is bald and states that Burton said his father "would be shocked if he knew I had travelled more than seven hundred miles to go to his funeral". It's wrong to suggest that it was a response to his father's lack of acknowledgement etc.
Secondly, Burton's father did not use the name Burton but continued with Jenkins for his entire life.
To remove these errors and improve the sentence, the final sentence could read something like this:
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In the section that describes Burton's role in the movie The Robe, it says Variety magazine termed the performances of the lead cast "effective" and complemented the fight sequences between Burton and Jeff Morrow.
The word "complemented" should be changed to complimented. 172.221.243.53 ( talk) 20:47, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Should Casa Kimberly be linked or mentioned anywhere in the article? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:28, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
the actress in the photograph and Burton's co star in the television program is Rosemary Harris. you can watch the whole program on you tube. Yvonne is not in the cast. 2600:1700:E120:3D70:F54D:45F6:4D59:2CBE ( talk) 04:38, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Night of the Iguana 1964 RonLopez123 ( talk) 21:32, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Before adding protections and templates, please millennial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Literaturegirl ( talk • contribs) 02:50, 2 December 2023 (UTC)