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This article is absolutely unjust and biased. Attacks, "opinions" of Catholic Church adversaries, raising controverises. My advice, drop the text as a whole, as it makes Wikipedia an unreliable sourse of information. For example, these is no financial controversy around it, as it is supported solely by the listeners. There is no commercial broadcasting. Since no tax payers are hurt, financial aspect of this radio should be ommited as unadequate. Everything is alright. It is a legally operating broadcasting station. Calling it (any)phobic is also unjust. I can see the authors of the article in fact are christianophobic, I daresay.
Peter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.182.255.142 ( talk) 15:13, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I don't understand the structure of this article. There is a section on criticism, and yet this very criticism makes the main part of the introductory paragraphs, as if the author wanted to be 100% sure the reader is straight away warned that it's a "bad thing" he's reading about. This seems biased and POV. 86.29.86.73 ( talk)
I am still in shock at the discrepancies present. Discussion seems to have been halted too. The article is highly unobjective and negative with a lot of bad quotes and falsifications as well as prime examples of information manipulation. As I have mentioned, I am not a defender or listener of the radio but I feel that it has been completely and utterly underrepresented with malicious intent by some Wikipedia users. I propose the entire article be reworked and restructured. I will begin some of my own research but I hope that this discussion will kick off once again. Thanks.--AngryFarmer 18:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I have just started to read this article, not being a listener of Radio Maryja but, being Polish I am fully aware of the heated debate that goes on about it. So far it has been highly unobjective but as I have seen, this has been discussed elsewhere and I will be providing some commentry where appropriate.
Under the 'Conspiracy Theories' heading we have a statement: "It was once broadcast that the Jews rule the country, that their government should be removed with violence and that Radio Maryja should take the power." I have listened to the source and being a fluent Polish speaker I must object. The statement itself may not be untrue but I believe it is a fine example of information manipulation. To clear up, the source is a recording of a listener calling in and clearly giving her opinion, something which is further highlighted by the presenter who says to literally translate: "that was one opinion". This is therefore not the official view of the station in anyway just like a TV station cannot be held responsible for the political views of those who appear on discussion shows or the like. With this in mind I strongly suggest small edit of the statement to perhaps:"A listener once called in strongly emphasising her ideas that the Jews rule the country, that their government should be removed with violence and that Radio Maryja should take the power." This would be a an objective, true statement and more in line with Wikipedias code. Thank you. AngryFarmer 23:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Ksenon has now begun to edit as users 83.5.218.85 and 83.5.182.181 so that he doesn't get blocked again. This is against Wikipedia rules, it's sockpuppetry, and it is pathetic.-- Milicz 00:01, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I just checked your sources Ksenon, Nasz Dziennik the often times controversial ultra-nationalistic Polish daily which also has overtones of anti-semitism
[1] and which is closely tied in with Radio Maryja (Ewa Sołowiej, Rydzyk's close associate and former Radio Maryja Warsaw Burea chief)? Not a very objective source, and not one that a serious researcher or journalist would rely on. Trwam on the other hand is RUN by Rydzyk, the same guy that runs Radio Maryja! This reminds of the planted journalist in the White House press room. I didn't know about this stuff, as I said I don't have an interest in this apart from having truthful articles in Wikipedia. At least you haven't cited Szczerbiec.--
Milicz 22:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
He tries to put extraordinary emphasis on the radio's critics, something that was already in the article in a neutral form. Also see below for some. Oh, and the hate site you add is balances on copyright infringement. Also, see below for sources. You might want to check the Polish article out to see masterly NPOV balance. Cheers Ksenon 16:39, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Well if you weren't blinded by your own POV, maybe you'd have noticed that I havent omitted any of those sites you mentioned (which are well-respected, unlike the trashy and copyright-violating sites youd like the reader to be redirected to), or is that a lousy attempt at a strawman argument? Judging by your edits, youd like to direct the reader to the "right" conclusion. That is not NPOV.
I think it's pointless for me to keep trying to bilateraly negotiate anything here. Ksenon 06:15, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
If we allow such absolute swill to fill the pages of Wikipedia then God help us all. This article should be locked in its current state.-- Milicz 00:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
That is not fact Ksenon, that is your uncited opinion, continuing on
Ksenon 16:10, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Editing an article on this issue is thus comined with the probability, that users instead to add their arguments, will try to erase the existing ones. Moa anbessa 15:56, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm sure we can keep this article sane, provided it is well sourced. I've restored Moa's last edits, and done some grammar cleanup, and it would be good if some of the statements were better sourced. Ronabop 04:07, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
the main feature of radio maryja is that it is antisemitic and is run by catholic church. It is written now in tha article that although it is run by the church, it is not an official church radio (!!!), and that it is not antisemitic, but its listeners are. This is a nonsense! Those jesuit censors that cut my edits should be carefully observed- they cut too much. Moa anbessa 11:12, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Sources for that: http://www.or.org.pl/artykuly/acala-rm.html http://www.radiomaryja.pl.eu.org/ http://rydzyk24.e-sai.org/ I have compiled these links for Ksenon. He was erasing them from the main article. Moa anbessa 11:31, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
http://www.radiomaryja.pl/ataki-tvn.htm
It is well documented. Read what some of the leading professors in the country have to say
I cannot pretend I'm impartial, but I will try to make my best to give you some background
-- matusz 02:30, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Is there a better phrase for this? It doesn't sound "right". Elpaw 14:58, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I wonder how democraticaly elected majority coalition leaders can present important information in radio if the radio can be considered hate radio? As a rule minority and otvoted grouops lousing society support may hate the proces. They will cray "whay the stupid voters not love us". As in personal live unfultfiled love can appear like hate. But the love to counism is gone. Anyway the comunism husband was wife(country) abuser. Milicz: milcz. The love is a past ilusion.
Saw the request for comment. My thoughts on the article:
Peace, -- Urthogie 11:22, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
http://kmdm.net/sat/metro.gazeta.jpg The new craze. Proven to be a bunch of crap, much like the stuff Milicz pushes, which is based on these types of publications. Nevertheless, they are included, though not in an "in your face" form. Peace. Ksenon 22:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys. If you continue to revert one another back and forth, and not responsibly use the talk page, I'll get it protected. Everyone, please calmly bring up your issues here before editing. Thanks.-- Urthogie 11:50, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
This is an attempt at informal mediation in reaction to Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-02-10_Radio_Maryja. -- Fasten 12:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Ksenon: You mentioned Matusz's summary on the article's talk page. Were you referring to #background_info? -- Fasten 19:01, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
As long as Ksenon doesn't contribute to the page or this talk page there doesn't seem to be any need for mediation? Is that correct? By the way: Mediation by the Mediation Cabal is informal and has no authority, I'm mainly here to give advice on policy, make you see each other's point or recommend procedures to solve a dispute. -- Fasten 19:28, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
[3] Markus Schmaus 05:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I suggest you to lock editing this article. Look at the history. Polish version of Radio Maryja is locked already: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Maryja Some of the people started to playing with Radio Maryja. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.244.168.130 ( talk • contribs) Fasten 16:30, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion this article "about" Radio Maryja is very agresive and false. I listen to Radio Maryja regularly and i know that this radio is good. There is nothing about evangelisation, praying in this article. Only stereotypes about homofobia, antisemitism, fanatism and another liberal slogans. I will change this article. And I'm asking for help everybody who wants to write about the truth. 85.128.92.78 15:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Radio Maryja itself is one huge satanic, anticatholic station. Evangelisation? How many people do you know that converted to the Roman Catholic Church under the influence of this radio? I know a lot that stoped going to the church, protesting against tolerating these national socialists. Barry Kent 18:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
It is stupid what are you talking about. "Huge satanic, anticatholic station" - what is the source of those terrible opinions? "National socialist"? ha ha I heard the Pope John Poul II and polish bishops. Their opinions are good for this catholic station. I know many people who listen to this station and their faith growns up every day. 85.128.92.78 15:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
And I ask you again: How many people do you know that converted to the Roman Catholic Church under the influence of this radio? Barry Kent 14:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
It is a very hard question because there are 96 % catholics in Poland. The Pope John Paul II and Polish bishops talked about deepening the faith by the Radio Maryja many times. 85.128.92.78 20:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[4] [5] [6] [7] Ronabop 10:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
There is nothing about stop listening to Radio Maryja. The Vatican wanted to regulate relations between Radio Maryja and Polish bishops. It was done in May and June 2006. Official declarations of Polish bishops - 2.V.2006 and 25.VI.2006 - in Polish. [8] - number 3 [9] - number 4 85.128.92.78 12:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Uhm, according to our auschwitz articles, the camp opened May 20, 1940, and the first gassing was in September 1941. So, it *could* be reasonably argued that Auschwitz started as a forced labor camp. Ronabop 07:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
This sound like the Fox News--ah I mean Fox Noise of Poland.
Most of Fox N's commentators are extreme right wing Catholics. You might as well be back in 7th grade with mother superior yammering at you.
Gee, that sounds entertaining. Marerules 21:54, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
The article on Radio Maryja should be deleted. In Poland, the minimum of requirement of social conduct is to call a priest at least " reverend" (in Polish ksiądz) or " father" (in Polish "ojciec", if he is a monk), independently whether you like or dislike him. So the usage of just "Rydzyk" is equivalent to offending him and means making politics, in particular means that the author is a militant anti-Catholic and trying to enforce his political views to the readers. So the article is apparently not neutral. For this reason alone, the article should be banned -or at least rigorously verified for reliability of sources, e.g. if they are really independent (e.g. not owned by the same media group etc.).
1. It does not represent the neutral point of view;
2. Some sources cited are not considered trustworthy:
-"Gazeta Wyborcza" was involved in "Rywin Affair", a botched attempt to broker the media influence in the name of "a group holding the power", for which Mr. Rywin has served time in jail;
-"Polityka" is a former Communist Party newspaper, with strong leftist bias;
-The chief figures in TVN were shown to have had served the Military Intelligence Services which were disbanded only last year;
-"Wprost" has yet to correct or substantiate it's ungrounded accusations against Mr. Zbigniew Herbert, yet it had already launched a similar campaign against Mr. Rydzyk. This illustrated weekly has Communist roots.
3. I invite the editors to actually review the contents of Internet portals "naszdziennik.pl", "www.radiomaryja.pl" and bring the actual proofs of alleged antisemitism, antigermanism, xenophobia etc. instead of the current compilation of second- and third-hand opinions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpharck ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I fully agree. Its fascist point of view. -- 89.79.222.60 ( talk) 17:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
This Wikipedia page is in no way neutral and should be rewritten. I also fail to see many of these wild claims backed with anything credible. Fr8train Oct 17th 2007
I want once again to encourage the editors to be precise: (1) Szczuka is a feminist, this is important when evaluationg what she did (2) Szczuka mocked the disabled on TVN television (not on a television); (3) the TVN was not punished for employing Szczuka, as you suggest, but for letting her mock the disabled (4) the penalty for mocking a disabled was the lowest (not the highest) one in Polish history, as there was no other station so far that had to be punished for mocking a disabled. . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.48.142.214 ( talk) 21:12, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
DumZiBoT ( talk) 02:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
A note on the conflict of RM with communists was just removed as not encyclopedical. While being backed with direct reference to a confirmed case in the media themselves, it has been classified as "unsourced". Congratulations on neutral treatment of the subject. How long will you keep accusations of nationalism, anticommunism etc. not backed by a single source? Why does it disturb you to hear that RM criticizes nazis? It is a question only. Not a suggestion.
If Radio Maryja ever tones down its public line, it is possible that the current controversies about the station would become a thing of the past. If so, then I would suggest a fork about the controversial material, so that it can be archived as an essentially historical issue. The fork could be called controversies surrounding Radio Marya and would me modeled on entries such as Controversies about Opus Dei and Controversies surrounding the Society of St. Pius X. ADM ( talk) 16:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
ShannonCB ( talk) 22:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)just did a minor grammar change.
I removed NPOV template from the article; such templates need to be accompanied by an explanation on talk on what is not neutral/undue/etc. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 21:17, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
The article informs about the past, it doesn't even mention recent manifestations or split of PiS. Xx236 ( talk) 08:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC) Cardinal Glemp isn't a Primate since 2009. Xx236 ( talk) 08:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
This is one of the most biased articles on Wikipedia that I have seen. It is obvious that the author hates this radio station. The entire article should be rewritten. First of all, the term in the lead to describe listeners of the radio Maryja is derogatory and should be removed. Many of the controversies alleged are untrue. The article only has quotes from critics, and no quotes from supporters. Ag97 ( talk) 21:50, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
An editor has added claims the station is homophobic and anti-roma, referenced to a search url that does not mention the topics. A proper reference giving the page on which these claims are needed will be necessary. μηδείς ( talk) 20:40, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
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This article is absolutely unjust and biased. Attacks, "opinions" of Catholic Church adversaries, raising controverises. My advice, drop the text as a whole, as it makes Wikipedia an unreliable sourse of information. For example, these is no financial controversy around it, as it is supported solely by the listeners. There is no commercial broadcasting. Since no tax payers are hurt, financial aspect of this radio should be ommited as unadequate. Everything is alright. It is a legally operating broadcasting station. Calling it (any)phobic is also unjust. I can see the authors of the article in fact are christianophobic, I daresay.
Peter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.182.255.142 ( talk) 15:13, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I don't understand the structure of this article. There is a section on criticism, and yet this very criticism makes the main part of the introductory paragraphs, as if the author wanted to be 100% sure the reader is straight away warned that it's a "bad thing" he's reading about. This seems biased and POV. 86.29.86.73 ( talk)
I am still in shock at the discrepancies present. Discussion seems to have been halted too. The article is highly unobjective and negative with a lot of bad quotes and falsifications as well as prime examples of information manipulation. As I have mentioned, I am not a defender or listener of the radio but I feel that it has been completely and utterly underrepresented with malicious intent by some Wikipedia users. I propose the entire article be reworked and restructured. I will begin some of my own research but I hope that this discussion will kick off once again. Thanks.--AngryFarmer 18:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I have just started to read this article, not being a listener of Radio Maryja but, being Polish I am fully aware of the heated debate that goes on about it. So far it has been highly unobjective but as I have seen, this has been discussed elsewhere and I will be providing some commentry where appropriate.
Under the 'Conspiracy Theories' heading we have a statement: "It was once broadcast that the Jews rule the country, that their government should be removed with violence and that Radio Maryja should take the power." I have listened to the source and being a fluent Polish speaker I must object. The statement itself may not be untrue but I believe it is a fine example of information manipulation. To clear up, the source is a recording of a listener calling in and clearly giving her opinion, something which is further highlighted by the presenter who says to literally translate: "that was one opinion". This is therefore not the official view of the station in anyway just like a TV station cannot be held responsible for the political views of those who appear on discussion shows or the like. With this in mind I strongly suggest small edit of the statement to perhaps:"A listener once called in strongly emphasising her ideas that the Jews rule the country, that their government should be removed with violence and that Radio Maryja should take the power." This would be a an objective, true statement and more in line with Wikipedias code. Thank you. AngryFarmer 23:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Ksenon has now begun to edit as users 83.5.218.85 and 83.5.182.181 so that he doesn't get blocked again. This is against Wikipedia rules, it's sockpuppetry, and it is pathetic.-- Milicz 00:01, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I just checked your sources Ksenon, Nasz Dziennik the often times controversial ultra-nationalistic Polish daily which also has overtones of anti-semitism
[1] and which is closely tied in with Radio Maryja (Ewa Sołowiej, Rydzyk's close associate and former Radio Maryja Warsaw Burea chief)? Not a very objective source, and not one that a serious researcher or journalist would rely on. Trwam on the other hand is RUN by Rydzyk, the same guy that runs Radio Maryja! This reminds of the planted journalist in the White House press room. I didn't know about this stuff, as I said I don't have an interest in this apart from having truthful articles in Wikipedia. At least you haven't cited Szczerbiec.--
Milicz 22:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
He tries to put extraordinary emphasis on the radio's critics, something that was already in the article in a neutral form. Also see below for some. Oh, and the hate site you add is balances on copyright infringement. Also, see below for sources. You might want to check the Polish article out to see masterly NPOV balance. Cheers Ksenon 16:39, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Well if you weren't blinded by your own POV, maybe you'd have noticed that I havent omitted any of those sites you mentioned (which are well-respected, unlike the trashy and copyright-violating sites youd like the reader to be redirected to), or is that a lousy attempt at a strawman argument? Judging by your edits, youd like to direct the reader to the "right" conclusion. That is not NPOV.
I think it's pointless for me to keep trying to bilateraly negotiate anything here. Ksenon 06:15, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
If we allow such absolute swill to fill the pages of Wikipedia then God help us all. This article should be locked in its current state.-- Milicz 00:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
That is not fact Ksenon, that is your uncited opinion, continuing on
Ksenon 16:10, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Editing an article on this issue is thus comined with the probability, that users instead to add their arguments, will try to erase the existing ones. Moa anbessa 15:56, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm sure we can keep this article sane, provided it is well sourced. I've restored Moa's last edits, and done some grammar cleanup, and it would be good if some of the statements were better sourced. Ronabop 04:07, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
the main feature of radio maryja is that it is antisemitic and is run by catholic church. It is written now in tha article that although it is run by the church, it is not an official church radio (!!!), and that it is not antisemitic, but its listeners are. This is a nonsense! Those jesuit censors that cut my edits should be carefully observed- they cut too much. Moa anbessa 11:12, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Sources for that: http://www.or.org.pl/artykuly/acala-rm.html http://www.radiomaryja.pl.eu.org/ http://rydzyk24.e-sai.org/ I have compiled these links for Ksenon. He was erasing them from the main article. Moa anbessa 11:31, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
http://www.radiomaryja.pl/ataki-tvn.htm
It is well documented. Read what some of the leading professors in the country have to say
I cannot pretend I'm impartial, but I will try to make my best to give you some background
-- matusz 02:30, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Is there a better phrase for this? It doesn't sound "right". Elpaw 14:58, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I wonder how democraticaly elected majority coalition leaders can present important information in radio if the radio can be considered hate radio? As a rule minority and otvoted grouops lousing society support may hate the proces. They will cray "whay the stupid voters not love us". As in personal live unfultfiled love can appear like hate. But the love to counism is gone. Anyway the comunism husband was wife(country) abuser. Milicz: milcz. The love is a past ilusion.
Saw the request for comment. My thoughts on the article:
Peace, -- Urthogie 11:22, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
http://kmdm.net/sat/metro.gazeta.jpg The new craze. Proven to be a bunch of crap, much like the stuff Milicz pushes, which is based on these types of publications. Nevertheless, they are included, though not in an "in your face" form. Peace. Ksenon 22:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys. If you continue to revert one another back and forth, and not responsibly use the talk page, I'll get it protected. Everyone, please calmly bring up your issues here before editing. Thanks.-- Urthogie 11:50, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
This is an attempt at informal mediation in reaction to Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-02-10_Radio_Maryja. -- Fasten 12:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Ksenon: You mentioned Matusz's summary on the article's talk page. Were you referring to #background_info? -- Fasten 19:01, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
As long as Ksenon doesn't contribute to the page or this talk page there doesn't seem to be any need for mediation? Is that correct? By the way: Mediation by the Mediation Cabal is informal and has no authority, I'm mainly here to give advice on policy, make you see each other's point or recommend procedures to solve a dispute. -- Fasten 19:28, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
[3] Markus Schmaus 05:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I suggest you to lock editing this article. Look at the history. Polish version of Radio Maryja is locked already: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Maryja Some of the people started to playing with Radio Maryja. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.244.168.130 ( talk • contribs) Fasten 16:30, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion this article "about" Radio Maryja is very agresive and false. I listen to Radio Maryja regularly and i know that this radio is good. There is nothing about evangelisation, praying in this article. Only stereotypes about homofobia, antisemitism, fanatism and another liberal slogans. I will change this article. And I'm asking for help everybody who wants to write about the truth. 85.128.92.78 15:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Radio Maryja itself is one huge satanic, anticatholic station. Evangelisation? How many people do you know that converted to the Roman Catholic Church under the influence of this radio? I know a lot that stoped going to the church, protesting against tolerating these national socialists. Barry Kent 18:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
It is stupid what are you talking about. "Huge satanic, anticatholic station" - what is the source of those terrible opinions? "National socialist"? ha ha I heard the Pope John Poul II and polish bishops. Their opinions are good for this catholic station. I know many people who listen to this station and their faith growns up every day. 85.128.92.78 15:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
And I ask you again: How many people do you know that converted to the Roman Catholic Church under the influence of this radio? Barry Kent 14:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
It is a very hard question because there are 96 % catholics in Poland. The Pope John Paul II and Polish bishops talked about deepening the faith by the Radio Maryja many times. 85.128.92.78 20:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[4] [5] [6] [7] Ronabop 10:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
There is nothing about stop listening to Radio Maryja. The Vatican wanted to regulate relations between Radio Maryja and Polish bishops. It was done in May and June 2006. Official declarations of Polish bishops - 2.V.2006 and 25.VI.2006 - in Polish. [8] - number 3 [9] - number 4 85.128.92.78 12:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Uhm, according to our auschwitz articles, the camp opened May 20, 1940, and the first gassing was in September 1941. So, it *could* be reasonably argued that Auschwitz started as a forced labor camp. Ronabop 07:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
This sound like the Fox News--ah I mean Fox Noise of Poland.
Most of Fox N's commentators are extreme right wing Catholics. You might as well be back in 7th grade with mother superior yammering at you.
Gee, that sounds entertaining. Marerules 21:54, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
The article on Radio Maryja should be deleted. In Poland, the minimum of requirement of social conduct is to call a priest at least " reverend" (in Polish ksiądz) or " father" (in Polish "ojciec", if he is a monk), independently whether you like or dislike him. So the usage of just "Rydzyk" is equivalent to offending him and means making politics, in particular means that the author is a militant anti-Catholic and trying to enforce his political views to the readers. So the article is apparently not neutral. For this reason alone, the article should be banned -or at least rigorously verified for reliability of sources, e.g. if they are really independent (e.g. not owned by the same media group etc.).
1. It does not represent the neutral point of view;
2. Some sources cited are not considered trustworthy:
-"Gazeta Wyborcza" was involved in "Rywin Affair", a botched attempt to broker the media influence in the name of "a group holding the power", for which Mr. Rywin has served time in jail;
-"Polityka" is a former Communist Party newspaper, with strong leftist bias;
-The chief figures in TVN were shown to have had served the Military Intelligence Services which were disbanded only last year;
-"Wprost" has yet to correct or substantiate it's ungrounded accusations against Mr. Zbigniew Herbert, yet it had already launched a similar campaign against Mr. Rydzyk. This illustrated weekly has Communist roots.
3. I invite the editors to actually review the contents of Internet portals "naszdziennik.pl", "www.radiomaryja.pl" and bring the actual proofs of alleged antisemitism, antigermanism, xenophobia etc. instead of the current compilation of second- and third-hand opinions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpharck ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I fully agree. Its fascist point of view. -- 89.79.222.60 ( talk) 17:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
This Wikipedia page is in no way neutral and should be rewritten. I also fail to see many of these wild claims backed with anything credible. Fr8train Oct 17th 2007
I want once again to encourage the editors to be precise: (1) Szczuka is a feminist, this is important when evaluationg what she did (2) Szczuka mocked the disabled on TVN television (not on a television); (3) the TVN was not punished for employing Szczuka, as you suggest, but for letting her mock the disabled (4) the penalty for mocking a disabled was the lowest (not the highest) one in Polish history, as there was no other station so far that had to be punished for mocking a disabled. . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.48.142.214 ( talk) 21:12, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
DumZiBoT ( talk) 02:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
A note on the conflict of RM with communists was just removed as not encyclopedical. While being backed with direct reference to a confirmed case in the media themselves, it has been classified as "unsourced". Congratulations on neutral treatment of the subject. How long will you keep accusations of nationalism, anticommunism etc. not backed by a single source? Why does it disturb you to hear that RM criticizes nazis? It is a question only. Not a suggestion.
If Radio Maryja ever tones down its public line, it is possible that the current controversies about the station would become a thing of the past. If so, then I would suggest a fork about the controversial material, so that it can be archived as an essentially historical issue. The fork could be called controversies surrounding Radio Marya and would me modeled on entries such as Controversies about Opus Dei and Controversies surrounding the Society of St. Pius X. ADM ( talk) 16:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
ShannonCB ( talk) 22:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)just did a minor grammar change.
I removed NPOV template from the article; such templates need to be accompanied by an explanation on talk on what is not neutral/undue/etc. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 21:17, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
The article informs about the past, it doesn't even mention recent manifestations or split of PiS. Xx236 ( talk) 08:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC) Cardinal Glemp isn't a Primate since 2009. Xx236 ( talk) 08:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
This is one of the most biased articles on Wikipedia that I have seen. It is obvious that the author hates this radio station. The entire article should be rewritten. First of all, the term in the lead to describe listeners of the radio Maryja is derogatory and should be removed. Many of the controversies alleged are untrue. The article only has quotes from critics, and no quotes from supporters. Ag97 ( talk) 21:50, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
An editor has added claims the station is homophobic and anti-roma, referenced to a search url that does not mention the topics. A proper reference giving the page on which these claims are needed will be necessary. μηδείς ( talk) 20:40, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
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