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I propose this section to be revamped/removed. It appears to be either a joke, or either some highly POV phallus-obsession. Wanka 18:56, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Both Gherkin & Swiss Re are improper names. Might as well use Gherkin Ghosts&empties 02:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Guitar and flag? Wow, a testament to some people's stupidity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.10.214.179 ( talk • contribs)
The Russian Orthodox Church (House of Worship) should not be used as an example of a phallic symbol! Please correct, and replace with something else, another photo... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3e/Godunov_ostrov.jpg/180px-Godunov_ostrov.jpg
I am saddened. Should I add this, or was it left out for a good reason? - Kasreyn 08:25, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't vulval or vulvallic be the feminine word/equillivant for phallus/phallic? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.214.17.26 ( talk • contribs) 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Needs more modern stuff, some psychological dude probably said something about the fact that kids draw them all over other kids' pencilcases at school, I'm sure if you looked hard enough you could find something interesting about modern examples. I don't really care if this article is rubbish or not so I cba to find anything about it/write it in, I just came on it for a laugh so dont expect me to do anything about its current state of poorness. Plebmonk 00:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
The Russian Orthodox Church (House of Worship) should not be used as an example of a phallic symbol! Please correct!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3e/Godunov_ostrov.jpg/180px-Godunov_ostrov.jpg
Is this the appropriate article under which to discuss studies related to this topic? If that is of any interest to anyone, I can include some cited research on this subject.
HonorableMan 21:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
This article need more work. It look a friend's dialogue, not an encyclopedic article. Mostly the psychoanalysis issue. Moreover some remarks are childish. Need a idea, a reasoning. Anselmocisneros 21:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Much as I agree withe the section, per wikipedia rules it must go. Please provide quotations of notable researchers who point out of abundance of phallic symbols in architecture. `' mikka 21:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Carptrash 21:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
The phallic shape is often used in architecture and frequently include detail that is almost alarming. For example Bertram Goodhue's Nebraska State Capitol contains at it's tip Lee Lawrie's statue of the Sower or Seed Thrower. Since this is exactly the place where the male "seed" exits the phallus it is difficult to imagine that this relationship was unrecognized to the architect and sculptor.
Other notable examples of blatantly phallic architecture include the Ypsilanti Water Tower and others.
The phallic firm can often be found in cemeteries, particularly from monuments of the Victorian Age.
For the origin of the phallic inuendo ( Gherkin) of the Swiss Re building in London see 30 St Mary Axe.
I have removed the following sentence. I do not think it is appropriate to include every Internet joke and harassment on a living person Alex Bakharev 05:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
When Russian President
Vladimir Putin called on women to have more children, journalist Vladimir Rakhmankov wrote a
satiric paper calling Putin "the nation's phallic symbol."
[1]
(minor edit to let reference display on talk page only. Keesiewonder talk 18:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC))
There appears to be a comment under Anceint India that came from the user 59.144.33.179 stating their opinion on the subect. I would be tempted to revert it back, though I have no idea of the accuracy of any of the comments. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the subject could divert a little attention to it? Fitz05 23:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
(used to be two cents)
In Jean Chevalier, Alain Gheerbrant Dictionnaire des symboles Paris, Robert Lafont 1969/1984 the lemma on Phallus opens with the following:
The lemma (1984) on tower notes that Danaë received the shower of gold while kept in a brazen tower.
Wiki's lemma on Danaë adds the cave as a place of conception, the reference to female fertility need not be spelled out. The association by students of art history of the symbol with the Renaissance grotto ( nymphaeum) on the other hand needs to be brought to the attention of the worthy contributors to the classical project since it is of some importance to the history of architecture.
Note that the esoteric symbolism links to Linga in which case the cited dictionnary is for the greater part in line with the contributors to Wiki's Lingam. The confusion over the distinction between Linga and Lingam (ref Burton's translation of the Kamasutra) is to be regretted.
To name the numerous experts that contributed to the Dictionnaire is beyond the scope of this lines. There seems little doubt that many would with great interest look at the phenomenal symbolism of the Nebraska State Capitol.
(...and will you please bring back phallic architecture into the article...please? no? yes? )
( Lunarian 12:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC))
is there any image of that , looking more serious? means less like the SPARTAA guy petting his penis? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.73.199.106 ( talk) 01:56, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed that this page has been vandalized quite frequently according to the page history. Should the admins be notified to semi-protect this page? Sandy of the CSARs ( talk) 07:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
" From Apis sprang the race of unicorns, that ridiculous beast of ancient writ whose learned brow lengthened into a gleaming phallus, and from the unicorn by gradual stages was derived the late city-man of which Oswald Spengler speaks. And from the dead cock of this sad specimen arose the giant skyskraper with its express elevators and observation towers . We are the last decimal point of sexual calculation..."
"It was a vision of crystal fairyland, a transformation scene in some Olympian pantomime-cruelly vast in scale, cruelly blue above, and cruelly white all round in the glare, with only here and there rock shadows black as jet, and dark fantastic pinnacles of dolomite jetting up from the slopes in phallic towers with streaming flanks of wetness in the sunshine"
Why was the "India" section removed by an unsigned user? No justification was given and I propose that the section be reinstated immediately. Also, this page ought to be protected given the childish games people get up to with its contents. Denihilonihil ( talk) 17:27, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for offering Image:Soft-2.jpg.
The issues I have with this are: 1) The article is about Phallus. Most often phallus is used in the context of an object of some kind shaped generally like an erect penis. Secondarily it can refer to an erect penis itself, although this is a less common usage. Your image is simply of a male penis. As we have images on the penis article that document the secondary definition well, I think we should focus on the primary definition here. 2) We have a ready supply of erect male penis images on the commons site we could use for the article (See Image:Erect penis.JPG, Image:Human penis erect.jpg, Image:My non erect & erect penis.jpeg, Image:Human penis flaccid and erect.jpg, Image:Superficial dorsal vein of the penis (erect).png, Image:Erection Homme.jpg, Image:TypicalHumanPenisScale.jpg, Image:Pompeya erótica6.jpg, Image:Human penis07.jpg, Image:Illu repdt male erect.jpg, Image:Erection partial.jpg, Image:ErectPenis54.jpg, Image:Human penis.JPG, Image:Circumcised penis - Flacid and Erect - High Res.jpg, Image:Erection by David Shankbone.jpg) with new ones being added every day.
My preference would be for an image that matches the primary usage of Phallus as an object that is erect penis like or erect penis shaped. The current lede image, showing a phallic costume in a parade is pretty good, even if slightly varying from the/my ideal image preference. Perhaps Image:CandlePenis.jpg, Image:Lovci mamutu stylized figure.jpg, Image:Pranger-Bonn-Münsterplatz-052.JPG, Image:天狗の面鉄輪温泉PB060289.jpg, Image:Phallus ravenelii torrey.gif, Image:KdVDeadSpermBank.JPG, Image:Barrel man revealed.jpg, Image:Danxiashan yangyuanshi.jpg, Image:Nationalmuseet - Cophenaghne - Male figure.JPG or Image:DelosPhallus.jpg.
3) In your image Image:Soft-2.jpg the lighting is poor, and does not compete well with many of the other images, and is not erect.
Atom ( talk) 14:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
AndyTheGrump thank you for engaging in discussion. I agree that the photograph I added is not the most phallic, but I was trying to avoid offense. It might be better to use http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HQ_SAM_CFE.jpg which shows an erect penis next to a flacid one, which, to me, minimises the sexual element, although it could be argued that the flacid penis is irrelevant to the article. You say that this article is about representations of the erect penis rather than the erect penis itself, and that adding a photographic representation of an erect penis would make a content fork. I argue that a photograph of an erect penis is relevant and helpful to the article on phallus because it a) depicts the subject of the article and b) provides a visual reference for the cultural and symbolic objects shown that derive from the phallus. There are more than enough photographs on wiki-commons to avoid duplication.
I have restored some material that was deleted by unsigned users with no explanations, such as this edit and this one. I also added back the architecture section with a ref tag. It's unreferenced, but so is a lot of other material in this article and it is interesting (I'm surprised the Washington monument was not included). that's all I plan to do to this article, as I followed a broken link to get here and tracked it down to an unexplained deletion. I have also identified a user who needs to be blocked, and I will make the appropriate report. Tom Reedy ( talk) 16:38, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Further to the first post in this discussion (January 2006), I suggest the removal of the architecture section which is heavily under-sourced and leans more towards personal pontification - it's hardly encyclopaedic material. (10 May 2010) User:Uq —Preceding undated comment added 23:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC).
I have restored material deleted by an unsigned user. Looking at the editor's history, it appears that he is systematically deleting material he believes is detrimental to India's image. He has been deleting this material for at least two years. If you are that user, do not delete material without discussion. If it is unreferenced, tag it as such, but don't delete it. If you continue, we will go to the noticeboard. Tom Reedy ( talk) 14:03, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Is a photographic image of an erect penis appropriate in this article about the erect penis, and representations of the erect penis? 93.96.148.42 ( talk) 03:03, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
Penises are common enough objects that a photograph does not convey any information that isn't available in life anyway. The photo of the erect penis is not needed, and good taste excludes it. Brechbill123 ( talk) 04:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I have tried to add the following section , but it has been deleted. I think that it should be included as it is a documented meaning of phallus, and omitting it may cause confusion. Medical Meaning In medicine phallus is used to describe the penis. It is also used to describe the sexually undifferentiated tissue in an embryo that becomes the penis or clitoris [1], which is technically described as the first embryonic rudiment, or primordium, of the vertebrate penis or clitoris that develops from the genital tubercle. [2] [3]" 93.96.148.42 ( talk) 05:44, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm not clear on your point here. The etymology of the word phallos doesn't determine or limit what the word phallus means in contemporary English. The vast majority of scientific terms are built from Greek and Latin roots. The question is article scope. If you do just a general Google books search on "phallus", you get a number of works from the humanities and the psychoanalytical tradition that treat the phallus as a form of symbology (these disciplines are connected through the Freudian and Lacanian recourse to classical mythology), as well as books that have the physiological meaning, including my favorite about ostrich phalluses. But how does it serve readers to conflate the two topics of physiology and symbology? The sources and methodology of these two uses are utterly different. They don't belong in the same article. For instance, in the section on "phallic sexuality" in the article "Sexuality in ancient Rome", it would be off-topic to provide a physiological diagram of the erectile functions of the penis, or a photograph of a penis. This has nothing to do with "censorship," as other images in the article make plain, but with article scope. The physiological terminology with its attendant diagrams or photos belongs in one article, and the treatment of symbology and cultural constructions of the phallus in the other. Why is this a problem? That said, there is a massive amount of scholarship available on the symbology of the phallus, including feminist interpretations, and the article makes next to no use of it. Cynwolfe ( talk) 16:52, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
References
This text currently appears at the top of the article. It is wrong. This article is about the erect penis, not male erections. This needs to be corrected, but anti-IP censorship prevents me from doing so. 93.96.148.42 ( talk) 11:03, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
IP, do you see the point being made here, that primordial phallus, a stage in the development of the (human?) penis/clitoris, belongs in its own article or one that addresses the development of genitalia, and this article isn't about that? -- Anthonyhcole ( talk) 15:38, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
I removed the section on Abrahamic religions on the grounds that it is about circumcision, which certainly relates to the penis, but has little to do with the topic of this article which is the "phallus" or erect penis. The Abrahamic religions, far from worshipping or displaying the phallus, made a considerable issue about keeping the genitals covered. This matter is referred to both in the story of Adam and Eve (who cover themselves in shame) and in the story of the Drunkenness of Noah in which one of the sons discretely covers his father's nakedness.
I put back the reference to two modern sects, of which one has a stated position of Phallus worship.
Amandajm ( talk) 08:04, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
(I am copying this from Talk:Bear in heraldry, though using the quotation that was from this page)
An instance of such an omission led to an angry letter by the authorities of Appenzell in 1579 to the city counsel of St. Gallen. The conflict was resolved by a well-respected bishop, after nearly escalating into a war. [Brown, Gary (1996). Great Bear Almanac. pp. pp. 340. ISBN 1558214747.{{ cite book}}
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There are so many things wrong with this claim that expose it as an obvious fake:
It's amazing that this paragraph has remained unchallenged for almost four years, but this needs to be properly cited or be deleted under WP:V. A Google search shows that in that time, it has been quoted ad nauseum, so the challenge will be to find a reference that is not a circular one (See WP:CIRCULAR). 140.247.0.13 ( talk) 22:16, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
oxford dictionaries say "noun (plural phalli /-lʌɪ, -liː/ or phalluses) a penis, especially when erect (typically used with reference to male potency or dominance): the hill figure is a naked man brandishing a club and displaying a huge phallus figurative the building was a monumental steel and glass phallus an image or representation of an erect penis, typically symbolizing fertility or potency: three wooden painted phalluses" 5.28.89.25 ( talk) 22:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Removed the section on Phallic worshipping in Hinduism. Refer link ( http://www.quora.com/Why-do-Hindus-worship-penis-and-vagina-Shivling). It is a common misconception because of the term "Lingam". FtheKing ( talk) 04:57, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
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The caption of the second image in the article describes it as "Phallic religious sculpture of Linga, Kathmandu street, Nepal 1973", but exactly how it is phallic isn't clear. Where is the penis in this image? PaleCloudedWhite ( talk) 07:53, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Linga doesnt mean Penis. It is a common misconseption amongst westerners. You can compare it with the cross that christians were. Dheerajmpai23 ( talk) 13:36, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Linga doesnt mean Penis. It is a common misconseption amongst westerners. You can compare it with the cross that christians were. Dheerajmpai23 ( talk) 13:36, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
A well researched article is over here . Hence I am removing all the misleading content on the page. Dheerajmpai23 ( talk) 19:03, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
I notice that the Etymology section only goes into the etymology of "phallus" but and not that of the "ithy-" prefix. When I have time later I'll correct it to include information from the more complete etymology found in the word's Wiktionary entry. Mpaniello ( talk) 16:29, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
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I propose this section to be revamped/removed. It appears to be either a joke, or either some highly POV phallus-obsession. Wanka 18:56, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Both Gherkin & Swiss Re are improper names. Might as well use Gherkin Ghosts&empties 02:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Guitar and flag? Wow, a testament to some people's stupidity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.10.214.179 ( talk • contribs)
The Russian Orthodox Church (House of Worship) should not be used as an example of a phallic symbol! Please correct, and replace with something else, another photo... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3e/Godunov_ostrov.jpg/180px-Godunov_ostrov.jpg
I am saddened. Should I add this, or was it left out for a good reason? - Kasreyn 08:25, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't vulval or vulvallic be the feminine word/equillivant for phallus/phallic? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.214.17.26 ( talk • contribs) 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Needs more modern stuff, some psychological dude probably said something about the fact that kids draw them all over other kids' pencilcases at school, I'm sure if you looked hard enough you could find something interesting about modern examples. I don't really care if this article is rubbish or not so I cba to find anything about it/write it in, I just came on it for a laugh so dont expect me to do anything about its current state of poorness. Plebmonk 00:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
The Russian Orthodox Church (House of Worship) should not be used as an example of a phallic symbol! Please correct!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3e/Godunov_ostrov.jpg/180px-Godunov_ostrov.jpg
Is this the appropriate article under which to discuss studies related to this topic? If that is of any interest to anyone, I can include some cited research on this subject.
HonorableMan 21:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
This article need more work. It look a friend's dialogue, not an encyclopedic article. Mostly the psychoanalysis issue. Moreover some remarks are childish. Need a idea, a reasoning. Anselmocisneros 21:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Much as I agree withe the section, per wikipedia rules it must go. Please provide quotations of notable researchers who point out of abundance of phallic symbols in architecture. `' mikka 21:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Carptrash 21:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
The phallic shape is often used in architecture and frequently include detail that is almost alarming. For example Bertram Goodhue's Nebraska State Capitol contains at it's tip Lee Lawrie's statue of the Sower or Seed Thrower. Since this is exactly the place where the male "seed" exits the phallus it is difficult to imagine that this relationship was unrecognized to the architect and sculptor.
Other notable examples of blatantly phallic architecture include the Ypsilanti Water Tower and others.
The phallic firm can often be found in cemeteries, particularly from monuments of the Victorian Age.
For the origin of the phallic inuendo ( Gherkin) of the Swiss Re building in London see 30 St Mary Axe.
I have removed the following sentence. I do not think it is appropriate to include every Internet joke and harassment on a living person Alex Bakharev 05:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
When Russian President
Vladimir Putin called on women to have more children, journalist Vladimir Rakhmankov wrote a
satiric paper calling Putin "the nation's phallic symbol."
[1]
(minor edit to let reference display on talk page only. Keesiewonder talk 18:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC))
There appears to be a comment under Anceint India that came from the user 59.144.33.179 stating their opinion on the subect. I would be tempted to revert it back, though I have no idea of the accuracy of any of the comments. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the subject could divert a little attention to it? Fitz05 23:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
(used to be two cents)
In Jean Chevalier, Alain Gheerbrant Dictionnaire des symboles Paris, Robert Lafont 1969/1984 the lemma on Phallus opens with the following:
The lemma (1984) on tower notes that Danaë received the shower of gold while kept in a brazen tower.
Wiki's lemma on Danaë adds the cave as a place of conception, the reference to female fertility need not be spelled out. The association by students of art history of the symbol with the Renaissance grotto ( nymphaeum) on the other hand needs to be brought to the attention of the worthy contributors to the classical project since it is of some importance to the history of architecture.
Note that the esoteric symbolism links to Linga in which case the cited dictionnary is for the greater part in line with the contributors to Wiki's Lingam. The confusion over the distinction between Linga and Lingam (ref Burton's translation of the Kamasutra) is to be regretted.
To name the numerous experts that contributed to the Dictionnaire is beyond the scope of this lines. There seems little doubt that many would with great interest look at the phenomenal symbolism of the Nebraska State Capitol.
(...and will you please bring back phallic architecture into the article...please? no? yes? )
( Lunarian 12:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC))
is there any image of that , looking more serious? means less like the SPARTAA guy petting his penis? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.73.199.106 ( talk) 01:56, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed that this page has been vandalized quite frequently according to the page history. Should the admins be notified to semi-protect this page? Sandy of the CSARs ( talk) 07:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
" From Apis sprang the race of unicorns, that ridiculous beast of ancient writ whose learned brow lengthened into a gleaming phallus, and from the unicorn by gradual stages was derived the late city-man of which Oswald Spengler speaks. And from the dead cock of this sad specimen arose the giant skyskraper with its express elevators and observation towers . We are the last decimal point of sexual calculation..."
"It was a vision of crystal fairyland, a transformation scene in some Olympian pantomime-cruelly vast in scale, cruelly blue above, and cruelly white all round in the glare, with only here and there rock shadows black as jet, and dark fantastic pinnacles of dolomite jetting up from the slopes in phallic towers with streaming flanks of wetness in the sunshine"
Why was the "India" section removed by an unsigned user? No justification was given and I propose that the section be reinstated immediately. Also, this page ought to be protected given the childish games people get up to with its contents. Denihilonihil ( talk) 17:27, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for offering Image:Soft-2.jpg.
The issues I have with this are: 1) The article is about Phallus. Most often phallus is used in the context of an object of some kind shaped generally like an erect penis. Secondarily it can refer to an erect penis itself, although this is a less common usage. Your image is simply of a male penis. As we have images on the penis article that document the secondary definition well, I think we should focus on the primary definition here. 2) We have a ready supply of erect male penis images on the commons site we could use for the article (See Image:Erect penis.JPG, Image:Human penis erect.jpg, Image:My non erect & erect penis.jpeg, Image:Human penis flaccid and erect.jpg, Image:Superficial dorsal vein of the penis (erect).png, Image:Erection Homme.jpg, Image:TypicalHumanPenisScale.jpg, Image:Pompeya erótica6.jpg, Image:Human penis07.jpg, Image:Illu repdt male erect.jpg, Image:Erection partial.jpg, Image:ErectPenis54.jpg, Image:Human penis.JPG, Image:Circumcised penis - Flacid and Erect - High Res.jpg, Image:Erection by David Shankbone.jpg) with new ones being added every day.
My preference would be for an image that matches the primary usage of Phallus as an object that is erect penis like or erect penis shaped. The current lede image, showing a phallic costume in a parade is pretty good, even if slightly varying from the/my ideal image preference. Perhaps Image:CandlePenis.jpg, Image:Lovci mamutu stylized figure.jpg, Image:Pranger-Bonn-Münsterplatz-052.JPG, Image:天狗の面鉄輪温泉PB060289.jpg, Image:Phallus ravenelii torrey.gif, Image:KdVDeadSpermBank.JPG, Image:Barrel man revealed.jpg, Image:Danxiashan yangyuanshi.jpg, Image:Nationalmuseet - Cophenaghne - Male figure.JPG or Image:DelosPhallus.jpg.
3) In your image Image:Soft-2.jpg the lighting is poor, and does not compete well with many of the other images, and is not erect.
Atom ( talk) 14:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
AndyTheGrump thank you for engaging in discussion. I agree that the photograph I added is not the most phallic, but I was trying to avoid offense. It might be better to use http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HQ_SAM_CFE.jpg which shows an erect penis next to a flacid one, which, to me, minimises the sexual element, although it could be argued that the flacid penis is irrelevant to the article. You say that this article is about representations of the erect penis rather than the erect penis itself, and that adding a photographic representation of an erect penis would make a content fork. I argue that a photograph of an erect penis is relevant and helpful to the article on phallus because it a) depicts the subject of the article and b) provides a visual reference for the cultural and symbolic objects shown that derive from the phallus. There are more than enough photographs on wiki-commons to avoid duplication.
I have restored some material that was deleted by unsigned users with no explanations, such as this edit and this one. I also added back the architecture section with a ref tag. It's unreferenced, but so is a lot of other material in this article and it is interesting (I'm surprised the Washington monument was not included). that's all I plan to do to this article, as I followed a broken link to get here and tracked it down to an unexplained deletion. I have also identified a user who needs to be blocked, and I will make the appropriate report. Tom Reedy ( talk) 16:38, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Further to the first post in this discussion (January 2006), I suggest the removal of the architecture section which is heavily under-sourced and leans more towards personal pontification - it's hardly encyclopaedic material. (10 May 2010) User:Uq —Preceding undated comment added 23:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC).
I have restored material deleted by an unsigned user. Looking at the editor's history, it appears that he is systematically deleting material he believes is detrimental to India's image. He has been deleting this material for at least two years. If you are that user, do not delete material without discussion. If it is unreferenced, tag it as such, but don't delete it. If you continue, we will go to the noticeboard. Tom Reedy ( talk) 14:03, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Is a photographic image of an erect penis appropriate in this article about the erect penis, and representations of the erect penis? 93.96.148.42 ( talk) 03:03, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
Penises are common enough objects that a photograph does not convey any information that isn't available in life anyway. The photo of the erect penis is not needed, and good taste excludes it. Brechbill123 ( talk) 04:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I have tried to add the following section , but it has been deleted. I think that it should be included as it is a documented meaning of phallus, and omitting it may cause confusion. Medical Meaning In medicine phallus is used to describe the penis. It is also used to describe the sexually undifferentiated tissue in an embryo that becomes the penis or clitoris [1], which is technically described as the first embryonic rudiment, or primordium, of the vertebrate penis or clitoris that develops from the genital tubercle. [2] [3]" 93.96.148.42 ( talk) 05:44, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm not clear on your point here. The etymology of the word phallos doesn't determine or limit what the word phallus means in contemporary English. The vast majority of scientific terms are built from Greek and Latin roots. The question is article scope. If you do just a general Google books search on "phallus", you get a number of works from the humanities and the psychoanalytical tradition that treat the phallus as a form of symbology (these disciplines are connected through the Freudian and Lacanian recourse to classical mythology), as well as books that have the physiological meaning, including my favorite about ostrich phalluses. But how does it serve readers to conflate the two topics of physiology and symbology? The sources and methodology of these two uses are utterly different. They don't belong in the same article. For instance, in the section on "phallic sexuality" in the article "Sexuality in ancient Rome", it would be off-topic to provide a physiological diagram of the erectile functions of the penis, or a photograph of a penis. This has nothing to do with "censorship," as other images in the article make plain, but with article scope. The physiological terminology with its attendant diagrams or photos belongs in one article, and the treatment of symbology and cultural constructions of the phallus in the other. Why is this a problem? That said, there is a massive amount of scholarship available on the symbology of the phallus, including feminist interpretations, and the article makes next to no use of it. Cynwolfe ( talk) 16:52, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
References
This text currently appears at the top of the article. It is wrong. This article is about the erect penis, not male erections. This needs to be corrected, but anti-IP censorship prevents me from doing so. 93.96.148.42 ( talk) 11:03, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
IP, do you see the point being made here, that primordial phallus, a stage in the development of the (human?) penis/clitoris, belongs in its own article or one that addresses the development of genitalia, and this article isn't about that? -- Anthonyhcole ( talk) 15:38, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
I removed the section on Abrahamic religions on the grounds that it is about circumcision, which certainly relates to the penis, but has little to do with the topic of this article which is the "phallus" or erect penis. The Abrahamic religions, far from worshipping or displaying the phallus, made a considerable issue about keeping the genitals covered. This matter is referred to both in the story of Adam and Eve (who cover themselves in shame) and in the story of the Drunkenness of Noah in which one of the sons discretely covers his father's nakedness.
I put back the reference to two modern sects, of which one has a stated position of Phallus worship.
Amandajm ( talk) 08:04, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
(I am copying this from Talk:Bear in heraldry, though using the quotation that was from this page)
An instance of such an omission led to an angry letter by the authorities of Appenzell in 1579 to the city counsel of St. Gallen. The conflict was resolved by a well-respected bishop, after nearly escalating into a war. [Brown, Gary (1996). Great Bear Almanac. pp. pp. 340. ISBN 1558214747.{{ cite book}}
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There are so many things wrong with this claim that expose it as an obvious fake:
It's amazing that this paragraph has remained unchallenged for almost four years, but this needs to be properly cited or be deleted under WP:V. A Google search shows that in that time, it has been quoted ad nauseum, so the challenge will be to find a reference that is not a circular one (See WP:CIRCULAR). 140.247.0.13 ( talk) 22:16, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
oxford dictionaries say "noun (plural phalli /-lʌɪ, -liː/ or phalluses) a penis, especially when erect (typically used with reference to male potency or dominance): the hill figure is a naked man brandishing a club and displaying a huge phallus figurative the building was a monumental steel and glass phallus an image or representation of an erect penis, typically symbolizing fertility or potency: three wooden painted phalluses" 5.28.89.25 ( talk) 22:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Removed the section on Phallic worshipping in Hinduism. Refer link ( http://www.quora.com/Why-do-Hindus-worship-penis-and-vagina-Shivling). It is a common misconception because of the term "Lingam". FtheKing ( talk) 04:57, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
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The caption of the second image in the article describes it as "Phallic religious sculpture of Linga, Kathmandu street, Nepal 1973", but exactly how it is phallic isn't clear. Where is the penis in this image? PaleCloudedWhite ( talk) 07:53, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Linga doesnt mean Penis. It is a common misconseption amongst westerners. You can compare it with the cross that christians were. Dheerajmpai23 ( talk) 13:36, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Linga doesnt mean Penis. It is a common misconseption amongst westerners. You can compare it with the cross that christians were. Dheerajmpai23 ( talk) 13:36, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
A well researched article is over here . Hence I am removing all the misleading content on the page. Dheerajmpai23 ( talk) 19:03, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
I notice that the Etymology section only goes into the etymology of "phallus" but and not that of the "ithy-" prefix. When I have time later I'll correct it to include information from the more complete etymology found in the word's Wiktionary entry. Mpaniello ( talk) 16:29, 12 January 2021 (UTC)