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I removed a couple of photos from certain sections, as there seems to be too many photos for some models and not very many for others. Was creating too much white space as well. Also, the ones i removed were of the same model, or close to, of photos already on the page for that generation. If people want to see what the cars look like in more detail, there are numerous search engines out there to do so!
Instead of eighty pics of each car model variation, perhaps photos of different models should take a priority. SkylineObsession ( talk) 12:39, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Someone had mentioned, in the article, that the R34's 6-speed Getrag is stronger (i assume they mean stronger than the previous 5-speed). this is very incorrect. it is very much universally agreed upon that the Getrag 6-speed is considerably weaker than the R32/33 5-speed. i removed the word 'stronger' from the mention, not because i know that it is weaker, but simply because the claim in unsupported. Impreziv ( talk) 07:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
incorrect: Getrag is stronger. R32 case is weak. R32&33 3rd gear is weak. R34 is much stronger. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.68.240.66 ( talk) 08:53, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
it is stronger. how many 1000bhp 33's use the oem box? none. even top secret fitted a 34 box to they 200mph r33. also plenty of 1000bhp rb30 engines 34's around with the oem box too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.71.124 ( talk) 20:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
The 1980 Toyota MA42 Celica Supra was powered by the M-TUE, a turbocharged 145hp 2.0L SOHC 12 valve straight six derived from the 2000GT. Following Toyota's typical production runs, this means this 1980 model year was introduced between August and September 1979. If this article is going to claim that the Skyline's L20ET was Japan's first turbocharged production engine, we will need sources to verify the first month of production of this model Skyline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.162.220.157 ( talk) 06:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
What does anybody think about adding a section mentioning the trend for transplanting the RB30 engine into the Skyline? Banalt 20:57, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
My uncle Lee has an R33GT-s skyline, he has constructed it so it goes much faster than most GTR standard versions. Many people choose to buy broken down and/or torn apart skylines just for the pure pleasure of knowing that it was you who did it. Take Jacob Modica with his BLITZ egnition sports engine. aparently he made that car from a template —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.133.104.147 ( talk • contribs) 04:48, July 3, 2007
What is the deal with splitting up (in particular, R32, R33 and R34 sections) the short model summary's into GT-R and non GT-R models? This has been done with R33 and R34 but not the R32 section? For consistancy's sake should the R32 section have the GT-R models listed seperately too? ( SkylineObsession 21:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC))
"The names were brought into line with the home U.S. and Japanese markets with the launch of the FJR30 series in 1981". That part of the article reads like the skyline was introduced in the US with the dr30 series, which is false as far as I know ( No skyline were sold by nissan in the US).
Also, someone wrote that "the skyline was introduced in mainstream by Gran turismo", or so. That's not factual, so I'm removing it. I don't think there is any general consensus about that statement.
Dread Specter
03:35, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Apart from the potential size it could become i think informative websites and (Skyline) related car club websites should be both allowed in this section, and clubs should be allowed whether or not it is a localised club or not - some clubs can have a hard time attracting new members and having a link to their site on this would be invaluable.
However i think at the minimum the club should be officially incorporated or otherwise as a genuine car club, i can personally vouch for Skylines Downunder (skylinesdownunder.com) and Southern Skyline Enthusiasts (southernskylines.com) - both are incorporated and well established.
If fansites are included then the page will become redicuously long, i had my site in that section for a while (godzilla.netfirms.com) but won't be including it again for a number of reasons.
I just thought i'd bring this up as a few people seem to be cropping the list of external sites every now and then without (seemingly) too much thought behind it. User:SkylineObsession
please do not delete the info about the V36 nissan skyline.
the car does have a 3.5L V6 with 315hp please do not remove
why is this being deleted with the info on the v35 skyline for?
The first GT-R Skyline appeared in February 1969. Called the PGC-10 internally, it used the 2.0 L <-- change the PGC 10 to KGC 10
Most overrated car in the history of automobiles CJW 70.26.11.45 00:00, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
who here actualy owns a skyline? User:spinnanz
How about a bit on model names the factory gave to Skylines in reference to adverts, like Ken-Mary (C110), Newman(R30). There was one called Jade and Hakosuka(c10)
I rem the Paul Newman edition R30, I donk know of the diff between it and the normal R30's. User:spinnanz
I see there's a bit of changing going on with regard to GT-R turbos. I think that what is in the article now is not correct, but I'm not going to change it now. Specifically, according to my information, the R34 N1 turbo supports higher power than the R33 N1 turbo. Here's the information I have, if you have more information or different information, please contribute:
Stock Turbo
N1 Turbo
All the compressor & turbine housings are identical externally (including size), apart from A/R markings. The difference are in the internal machining, the shape of the wheels, and the core. The standard R32 & R33 turbos have slightly different compressor characteristics, even though the A/R is the same. The N1 R32 & R33 turbos are identical, no changes made between models.
To further confuse thing, Nissan/Garrett produced another lot of turbos for Group A. I've got conflicting information about that. 210.0.100.153 10:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Most overrated car in the history of automobiles. Perhaps a tie with the Toyota Supra CJ DUB 18:22, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Do u have nothing better to do than pop ur POV all over the talk page? Put down some facts if u have something to say. -- Preveen 13:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
The cars not overrated, it's just one of the best ever produced. - Ben
LOL. Sounds like POV to me ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Best ever produced? Man you guys really believe that don't you? CJ DUB 23:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Those opinions don't belong here. Keep them for yourself if they don't contribute to wikipedia. Thanks. Dread Specter 03:27, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I can understand why it can be abit of an overrated car. A lot of "ricer" fans see it as the ultimate and get a lot of kids prasing it in video games. And yes it is one of the best cars ever produced at an affordable price with similar performance to Euro sports cars - Ajax 11:54AM 4th April 07 (GTM)
Seems some people need to be reminded that this is not a forum, and only the discussions on improving the article are allowed and wanted. Thanks.
Dread Specter
So Dread Specter, how would you "Clarify" this "Overratedness" of the Skyline? I see you have said you drive 1 yourself as do I and so if what I am saying is irrelevent then why is there a section on this and should it be deleted?- Ajax 5th April 07 (GTM)
It should not be deleted because no consensus has been reached on deleting this yet, and for the moment, this page serves as a reminder to those who would be tempted to open the subject again. To understand why your comments are irrelevent, please consult the talk page guidlines.I've left you the template on your page so you can understand better. Dread Specter 02:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Only 80 r34 were imported in uk from T to 53 plate
What has the number of how many cars were imported somwhere got to do with how good they are? if thet were the case the mazda MX5 is the best sports car in the world.
Question for the experts? Were there any Nissan Skylines(year or model) that were ever illegal in the US, if so what years and models? Please e-mail results to: silentkhaos9@earthlink.net or send to my wikipedia page at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Silentkhaos9 or just post them up here on this Nissan Skyline wikipedia page, any are fine. Need to know for a school paper (Need info. as soon as possible, Paper due: May 2006) plus for my own knowledge. Thank you!
"In 1999, a revised chassis and incremental updates to the GT-R model proved once and for all that the R34 was one of the fastest all-around cars in the world. It has held many track records and won many JGTC championships."
Im aware that the Skyline GTR's are fast cars, but saying its "One of the fastest all-round cars in the world" is a bit questionable. Fast, yes, but what about the likes of the Porsche 911? Also, a JGTC Skyline is extremely different from a road going Skyline. In America, if Ford said that the Ford Fusion could reach speeds over 180mph, they'd be lying. So the same should apply here.
CJ doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, nor should he talk shit about cars he could never afford
Thanks. Dread Specter 03:30, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I dunno about you, but this looks to me like a copy/paste of a press release, which is a violation of Wikipedia rules? -- 293.xx.xxx.xx 07:16, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I think (and its only I THINK until I find it) this was an entry in an auto blog or summin. The facts are right, but I agree that its PROBABLY a copy and paste. I'll look for the source article. And If I find it, I'll see about editing the section. -- Preveen 12:55, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I've edited the information regarding the R31 series skylines, in particular the redtop RB20DET motors. It seems many people don't know that there exists 3 distinctly different redtop RB20 variants;
-the early "NICS" motors which are identifiable by a NICS plate on the top of the intake, and the use of twelve small intake runners from the plenum to the cylinder head, leading to a butterfly plate which reduces effective port size at low revs for better response (basically closes off 6 runners). Tentatively I'd say these were 1986-late 1987 production.
-the later "ECCS" motors which adopt the ECCS system, as well as a new manifold with six much larger runners instead of 12 small ones, but still retains the butterfly plate. The turbocharger is slightly better than the NICS item, and the electronics slightly more sophisticated. My best guess is that the ECCS motors were from late 1987/early 1988 until production ended, my personal car, a 1988 HR31 GTS coupe, has the ECCS motor.
- RB20DET-R "ECCS" with a large T04(?) sized turbo on a stainless steel tube manifold, and a large front mounted intercooler. This motor was fitted to the limited Group A homologation production of the HR31 GTS-R, and made 210ps. It may or may not have different camshafts and other internal differences. It is possibly identifiable by the "RB20DET-R" intake manifold badge.
Please note the HR31 ECCS motor and the HCR32 ECCS motors are NOT the same, the block, head, intake manifolds, turbos, electronics and many other components are completely different.
seventhskyline@gmail.com
220.253.133.29 13:19, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
According to this, it is a 3.6L twin turbo. This front is quite different again from the Tokyo Auto Salon prototype, has some family resemblance to the BNR34 to my eyes. Still waiting for some different sources. Anyone else seen anything?
Also it's got a big Skyline badge between the signature afterburners. So perhaps it will be a Skyline after all? RB30DE 21:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Right now we have three conflicting years for the introduction of the Skyline. The model history says '52, the sidebar says '57 and '55. Can anyone shed some light into this? Bal00 00:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that to the contrary, the DR30 in RS-X spec was available factory-intercooled. the lesser RS spec was not. However both versions did not use a blow-off-valve.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.38.209 ( talk • contribs)
Did the Skylines come out with the ATTESA system? Don't confuse this with the ATTESA E-TS system... I haven't looked through the article for Viscous yet however this showed up in search. I think Viscous diffs are used in ATTESA and electronically controlled ones used in ATTESA E-TS. -- 203.118.135.21 18:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC) (NzHamstar)
Also how come all the photos are from New Zealand lol... -- 203.118.135.21 18:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC) (NzHamstar)
becuause no one else posts up pictures and theres heaps of then in NZ, I work with 70 other people at my work and between us there is 2 r32 gts coups, 1 r32 gts25 sedan, 1 r32 GTR, 1 r33 gts25 coupe and 1 r33 gts25t seadn. Re the Q above, 4wd skylines use the attesa ETS system. User:spinnanz
This article is reasonably long now, and contains a fair bit of detail about the RB engines and the GT-Rs. How about moving some of the detail to Nissan RB engine & Nissan Skyline GT-R? Also Nismo GT-R Z-Tune is a bit of orphan, how about merging that into Nissan Skyline GT-R? RB30DE 22:58, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Nissan Japan V36 Skyline (Japanese, needs Flash) RB30DE 03:36, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Twice the page has been edited to remove V36 and replace it with G35. Yes it appears the car will be called an Infiniti G35 in the USA, but this page is about the Nissan Skyline, and it is called a V36. Refer to the Japanese Nissan site (Even just the URL). RB30DE 04:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Many of the images that have just appeared are from here: http://www.nissan.co.jp/MUSEUM/SKYLINE/
I'm looking at FUC and I'm still unclear about whether these qualify as fair use or not. RB30DE 20:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I've updated all the generations and the entire page with the new Infobox style that is in use on Automobile articles. I have left in all of the extra options (for example: length, height, weight, etc.). So please feel free to fill in all of the information. Thanks. ren0 talk 17:39, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Not sure how Wikipedia handles plagiarism, but the Nissan Skyline article is near identical to this allexperts.com article: http://en.allexperts.com/e/n/ni/nissan_skyline.htm
Looks like someone at allexperts.com cut and paste. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.170.206.82 ( talk) 23:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
Can someone point me to the guidelines that necessitated the removal of the Skyline's appearances in media? The IMCDb doesn't have half the information that was posted here before... ~ Dusk Knight 05:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
I've restored the media appearances. Based on the De Lorean DMC-12 featured article, I'd say it's fine to include this type of information. ~ Dusk Knight 04:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
This section has been cleaned out Per WP:EL. If anyone feels a link removed belongs, please explain. At the surface they all appear to violate WP:EL as community links or spam and should not be reinserted without discussion.-- Oni Ookami Alfador Talk| @ 20:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I beleive we should put a link back on to
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/forums.html, although not the all and end all of skylines the amount and quality of most information on the forum is a great resource to any owner or potential owner. membership is free.
Davidnbyrne
05:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Can I suggest please a link to www.gtr.co.uk ? It is an information resource that has with it a combined News, Press Release, Owners Club and Forum element to it. It is a multi-disciplined website and should not be treated as just a forum. It is also officially recognised and endorsed by Nissan GB. It has remained a primary source of Nissan Skyline information for over a decade. Blow dog ( talk) 14:43, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I noticed that there was no mention of the most influential asset of the GT-R: the computer. It should be noted that several variants of the ATTESA ET-S active driving computer were produced by Nissan for the GT-R's active driving computer. It's no secret that there were incremental updates to the system with each new generation from BNR32 to BNR34, but V-spec packages received a slightly different version. For the BCNR33 and BNR34, ATTESA-ETS Pro was fitted to V-spec models. The primary differences between the ATTESA ET-S and ATTESA ET-S Pro were: increased (allegedly doubled) polling rate of driving condition data to the central computer, adjustments to the active centre differential's behavior under conditions of slip (they were adjusted to allow greater levels of slip and responded more quickly for more aggressive driving), control of new front and rear torque converters to adjust for each individual wheel (this one is unconfirmed for the BCNR33 and BNR32 generations), and support for wheel-independent anti-lock brakes.
Not much is known about how ATTESA ET-S was configured for V-spec packages in the R32 generation because of very low production quantities of said V-spec, and the R32 generation used mechanical triggers to poll the computer, whereas the R33 and R34 generations introduced fully computerized monitoring. The revised ET-S Pro was introduced with the BCNR33 in 1995, so I don't know what changes to the system were made for the BNR32 V-spec and N1. Cheers, -- Setsunakute ( talk) 07:17, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
incorrect: "control of new front and rear torque converters to adjust for each individual wheel..." R33&34 Vspec have "A-LSD" (active-LSD) but none have front torque converters or any type of active front diff. -- bigD ( talk) 07:17, 07 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.68.240.66 ( talk)
I'm pretty positive that the new GTR is already available for purchase in Japan, however, this article words it in a way that makes it seem like it hasent been released. Mkid1 ( talk) 02:45, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
any information on what platform the r34 uses? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.229.227.219 ( talk) 05:29, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
It is EXTREMELY UNREASONABLE. V35 and V36 ARE Skylines but not GT-R only. This is a topic for Skyline, not GT-R, so V35 and V36 should be added back !
those cars developed by nissan and infinti. they're not as pure as the GT-R's as the GT-R's are developed by nissan alone. the v35 and v36 are believed to be lacking the racing pedigree passed down through the years by the Skyline GT-R's.
The Entire R35 Section needs to be deleted. The R35 GTR is no way connected to the current Skyline family. They are completely different models and should be treated as such.
But it is, for years the Sklyline GT-R was always Nissan's main techincal flagship. Anyways the Skyline name always comes hand in hand wit the GT-R badge - Darren —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.198.194 ( talk) 18:21, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
...but that's the thing: the R35 GT-R is NOT A SKYLINE! Therefore it has no place in a Wikipedia article about Nissan Skylines. The Skyline GT-R is a Skyline - it is built from a Skyline, just like any other Skyline, which is not the case with the R35 GT-R because that car has NOTHING in common with the Skyline or Skyline GT-R aside from the letters "G," "T," and "R."
The people that call the GT-R a Skyline are largely ignorant of what the GT-R is and what a is Skyline. To do otherwise would be an argument from popularity. A brief mention should be made, but there should be no section regarding the R35 ANYWHERE on this article. Space Turbo ( talk) 20:47, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I think the GT-R R35 has no relations (almost zero) with the Skyline, and the platforms are totally different, although they are built in the same factory. WKB( talk here/ This is not Facebook nor Malaysia) 11:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
It is most definately part of the greater Skyline family (like the Laurel, Stagea and Cefiro), but you're right in that it shouldn't be on this page. Those who deny it has any relation at all to the Skyline are the ignorant ones (Nissan inclusive if need be). Round rear lights - Skyline(later models anyway). GT-R name - Skyline. Mind blowing performance - Skyline GT-R. Plus a whole lot of other references that i don't have time to mention. I'm NOT saying it IS a Skyline, merely the Skyline GT-R was basically its birthplace, even though it has branched off in a different direction. SkylineObsession ( talk) 18:25, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
In the R32 GT-R sub-section, it is mentioned that the car's victory at Bathurst (Australia) in '91 and '92 led Australia's motoring press to dub it 'Godzilla'.
This is wrong and misleading.
Wheels magazine reviewed the car in their July '89 edition. The cover was a shot of the R32 with the word 'Godzilla' above it. That is where the name came from. The GT-R's victories at Bathurst only prompted the Australian Touring Car authorities to ban it for being too competitive... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.109.5 ( talk) 12:47, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
This is a completely made up thing, which has never existed or would exist to this day. The only things I could find regarding this, were sales posts on various forums of R33 GTS-T's, with GT-R front end conversions or RB25DET to RB26DETT engine swaps. A few posts from June of 2015 have cited however, that a "GTS-R" is real and a very rare car, which everyone should sought after. I highly believe, that the Wikipedia article has been modified by the same person, looking to fool people about their car being worth more and trying therefore to justify the ridiculous asking price. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.93.105.187 ( talk) 15:46, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Reference is made to the 'South Australian market' in the S54 section. Surely this was not restricted to South Australia? South Australia is a very small market, in fact less than half that of New Zealand (4.47 million vs 1.67 million). Should this be the 'Australian market' or was it confused with the South Africa market ? Terrybebb ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:39, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
http://www.nismo.co.jp/Z-tune/data_e/1.html
It wasn't a production model, just a package of parts that Nismo Omori would install to an R32/R33/R34 Skyline GT-R that is now deprecated with the new demo cars developed. Some clarification in the R32 section would help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.232.97.20 ( talk) 01:16, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
That's a massive paragraph, and the formatting and punctuation on it are absolutely bizarre. Someone should revise it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zukriuchen ( talk • contribs) 09:34, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
What is the price of r34 @2018. Nuwantha Tharindu ( talk) 13:12, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
This is a dubious claim, in the last paragraph for the lead-in. I don't delete such things without researching, but I can't find a single source that supports this claim. I'll leave this for a couple weeks with the tag, then delete it unless someone finds an actual Guinness verified record on the Guinness site to corroborate the claim. 2600:8804:80:2280:809D:484A:71B:F5E ( talk) 22:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Somebody deleted my comment because they got upset for some reason but with all logic the image should show the iconic R34 as I have repeatedly tried to change it to. Please stop coming up with frankly ridiculous reasons to reverse this. DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 07:03, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
I am finally unbanned from a completely ridiculous and frivolous ban but I'm gonna stop you right there. The R34 is not my favourite. It is just the one that obviously should be shown if you have any functioning logic centre in your brain. It's the iconic, representative image that every knows as Skyline and everyone thinks of when they hear Skyline. By everyone I mean the general public. What you changed it to is ridiculous most people don't even know what that is. Absolutely ridiculous that nobody changed that in 4 days but people change my normal image of a well known car instantly. The cars in the background are only distracting if you have extreme ADHD which most people don't. What you say is absurd and ridiculous, and please consult the talk page before changing to your preferred version. Otherwise it may lead to editwars. DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 09:50, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Search Nissan Skyline and go to images lol. DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 11:26, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Also I would like to add that you dismiss my changes due to being opinion based, I told you it is not my favourite skyline and that isn't why I chose it, and yet you continue to repeatedly change it to the one you said is your personal favourite. How hypocritical DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 11:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Thirdly you say my diatribe and yet your previous message was longer than the one I responded with. You can't stop being hypocritical, can you? DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 11:33, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Search term | count |
---|---|
Nissan Skyline r32 | 9,370,000 |
Nissan Skyline r33 | 5,800,000 |
Nissan Skyline r34 | 9,720,000 |
Nissan Skyline r35 | 12,900,000 |
Nissan Skyline r36 | 348,000 |
Nissan Skyline r37 | 43,100 |
The hypocrisy is mind blowing. You npcs have such a retarded hivemind. DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 10:13, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Are there any images any of you would like to add to the pile before I start an RFC?, I'll start it either in the evening or tomorrow evening, Thanks, –
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13:10, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Nissan Skyline GT-R is a standalone article, therefore it would be wrong to use a GT-R image for the infobox here. It would be like having a Renault 5 Turbo at Renault 5, or the Ford Supervan at Ford Transit. Those pictures should be removed from the discussion. Personally I don't think these two articles should be separate, but that's another discussion. You will notice a large number of "iconic" GT-R images in that article, though. As for looks, can we please just stick to the WP:CARPIX guidelines? That's how Wikipedia works. I include them here, too, so that we can stop having people just state WP:IDONTLIKEIT over and over again (sections specifically regarding the main infobox images are in bold):
Thank you. Mr.choppers | ✎ 13:13, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
R34 GT-Rs made in January 1999 are now legal to import to the United States as it is January 2024. The article should reflect this as soon as possible. GGUltima ( talk) 01:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
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I removed a couple of photos from certain sections, as there seems to be too many photos for some models and not very many for others. Was creating too much white space as well. Also, the ones i removed were of the same model, or close to, of photos already on the page for that generation. If people want to see what the cars look like in more detail, there are numerous search engines out there to do so!
Instead of eighty pics of each car model variation, perhaps photos of different models should take a priority. SkylineObsession ( talk) 12:39, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Someone had mentioned, in the article, that the R34's 6-speed Getrag is stronger (i assume they mean stronger than the previous 5-speed). this is very incorrect. it is very much universally agreed upon that the Getrag 6-speed is considerably weaker than the R32/33 5-speed. i removed the word 'stronger' from the mention, not because i know that it is weaker, but simply because the claim in unsupported. Impreziv ( talk) 07:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
incorrect: Getrag is stronger. R32 case is weak. R32&33 3rd gear is weak. R34 is much stronger. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.68.240.66 ( talk) 08:53, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
it is stronger. how many 1000bhp 33's use the oem box? none. even top secret fitted a 34 box to they 200mph r33. also plenty of 1000bhp rb30 engines 34's around with the oem box too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.71.124 ( talk) 20:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
The 1980 Toyota MA42 Celica Supra was powered by the M-TUE, a turbocharged 145hp 2.0L SOHC 12 valve straight six derived from the 2000GT. Following Toyota's typical production runs, this means this 1980 model year was introduced between August and September 1979. If this article is going to claim that the Skyline's L20ET was Japan's first turbocharged production engine, we will need sources to verify the first month of production of this model Skyline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.162.220.157 ( talk) 06:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
What does anybody think about adding a section mentioning the trend for transplanting the RB30 engine into the Skyline? Banalt 20:57, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
My uncle Lee has an R33GT-s skyline, he has constructed it so it goes much faster than most GTR standard versions. Many people choose to buy broken down and/or torn apart skylines just for the pure pleasure of knowing that it was you who did it. Take Jacob Modica with his BLITZ egnition sports engine. aparently he made that car from a template —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.133.104.147 ( talk • contribs) 04:48, July 3, 2007
What is the deal with splitting up (in particular, R32, R33 and R34 sections) the short model summary's into GT-R and non GT-R models? This has been done with R33 and R34 but not the R32 section? For consistancy's sake should the R32 section have the GT-R models listed seperately too? ( SkylineObsession 21:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC))
"The names were brought into line with the home U.S. and Japanese markets with the launch of the FJR30 series in 1981". That part of the article reads like the skyline was introduced in the US with the dr30 series, which is false as far as I know ( No skyline were sold by nissan in the US).
Also, someone wrote that "the skyline was introduced in mainstream by Gran turismo", or so. That's not factual, so I'm removing it. I don't think there is any general consensus about that statement.
Dread Specter
03:35, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Apart from the potential size it could become i think informative websites and (Skyline) related car club websites should be both allowed in this section, and clubs should be allowed whether or not it is a localised club or not - some clubs can have a hard time attracting new members and having a link to their site on this would be invaluable.
However i think at the minimum the club should be officially incorporated or otherwise as a genuine car club, i can personally vouch for Skylines Downunder (skylinesdownunder.com) and Southern Skyline Enthusiasts (southernskylines.com) - both are incorporated and well established.
If fansites are included then the page will become redicuously long, i had my site in that section for a while (godzilla.netfirms.com) but won't be including it again for a number of reasons.
I just thought i'd bring this up as a few people seem to be cropping the list of external sites every now and then without (seemingly) too much thought behind it. User:SkylineObsession
please do not delete the info about the V36 nissan skyline.
the car does have a 3.5L V6 with 315hp please do not remove
why is this being deleted with the info on the v35 skyline for?
The first GT-R Skyline appeared in February 1969. Called the PGC-10 internally, it used the 2.0 L <-- change the PGC 10 to KGC 10
Most overrated car in the history of automobiles CJW 70.26.11.45 00:00, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
who here actualy owns a skyline? User:spinnanz
How about a bit on model names the factory gave to Skylines in reference to adverts, like Ken-Mary (C110), Newman(R30). There was one called Jade and Hakosuka(c10)
I rem the Paul Newman edition R30, I donk know of the diff between it and the normal R30's. User:spinnanz
I see there's a bit of changing going on with regard to GT-R turbos. I think that what is in the article now is not correct, but I'm not going to change it now. Specifically, according to my information, the R34 N1 turbo supports higher power than the R33 N1 turbo. Here's the information I have, if you have more information or different information, please contribute:
Stock Turbo
N1 Turbo
All the compressor & turbine housings are identical externally (including size), apart from A/R markings. The difference are in the internal machining, the shape of the wheels, and the core. The standard R32 & R33 turbos have slightly different compressor characteristics, even though the A/R is the same. The N1 R32 & R33 turbos are identical, no changes made between models.
To further confuse thing, Nissan/Garrett produced another lot of turbos for Group A. I've got conflicting information about that. 210.0.100.153 10:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Most overrated car in the history of automobiles. Perhaps a tie with the Toyota Supra CJ DUB 18:22, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Do u have nothing better to do than pop ur POV all over the talk page? Put down some facts if u have something to say. -- Preveen 13:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
The cars not overrated, it's just one of the best ever produced. - Ben
LOL. Sounds like POV to me ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Best ever produced? Man you guys really believe that don't you? CJ DUB 23:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Those opinions don't belong here. Keep them for yourself if they don't contribute to wikipedia. Thanks. Dread Specter 03:27, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I can understand why it can be abit of an overrated car. A lot of "ricer" fans see it as the ultimate and get a lot of kids prasing it in video games. And yes it is one of the best cars ever produced at an affordable price with similar performance to Euro sports cars - Ajax 11:54AM 4th April 07 (GTM)
Seems some people need to be reminded that this is not a forum, and only the discussions on improving the article are allowed and wanted. Thanks.
Dread Specter
So Dread Specter, how would you "Clarify" this "Overratedness" of the Skyline? I see you have said you drive 1 yourself as do I and so if what I am saying is irrelevent then why is there a section on this and should it be deleted?- Ajax 5th April 07 (GTM)
It should not be deleted because no consensus has been reached on deleting this yet, and for the moment, this page serves as a reminder to those who would be tempted to open the subject again. To understand why your comments are irrelevent, please consult the talk page guidlines.I've left you the template on your page so you can understand better. Dread Specter 02:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Only 80 r34 were imported in uk from T to 53 plate
What has the number of how many cars were imported somwhere got to do with how good they are? if thet were the case the mazda MX5 is the best sports car in the world.
Question for the experts? Were there any Nissan Skylines(year or model) that were ever illegal in the US, if so what years and models? Please e-mail results to: silentkhaos9@earthlink.net or send to my wikipedia page at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Silentkhaos9 or just post them up here on this Nissan Skyline wikipedia page, any are fine. Need to know for a school paper (Need info. as soon as possible, Paper due: May 2006) plus for my own knowledge. Thank you!
"In 1999, a revised chassis and incremental updates to the GT-R model proved once and for all that the R34 was one of the fastest all-around cars in the world. It has held many track records and won many JGTC championships."
Im aware that the Skyline GTR's are fast cars, but saying its "One of the fastest all-round cars in the world" is a bit questionable. Fast, yes, but what about the likes of the Porsche 911? Also, a JGTC Skyline is extremely different from a road going Skyline. In America, if Ford said that the Ford Fusion could reach speeds over 180mph, they'd be lying. So the same should apply here.
CJ doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, nor should he talk shit about cars he could never afford
Thanks. Dread Specter 03:30, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I dunno about you, but this looks to me like a copy/paste of a press release, which is a violation of Wikipedia rules? -- 293.xx.xxx.xx 07:16, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I think (and its only I THINK until I find it) this was an entry in an auto blog or summin. The facts are right, but I agree that its PROBABLY a copy and paste. I'll look for the source article. And If I find it, I'll see about editing the section. -- Preveen 12:55, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I've edited the information regarding the R31 series skylines, in particular the redtop RB20DET motors. It seems many people don't know that there exists 3 distinctly different redtop RB20 variants;
-the early "NICS" motors which are identifiable by a NICS plate on the top of the intake, and the use of twelve small intake runners from the plenum to the cylinder head, leading to a butterfly plate which reduces effective port size at low revs for better response (basically closes off 6 runners). Tentatively I'd say these were 1986-late 1987 production.
-the later "ECCS" motors which adopt the ECCS system, as well as a new manifold with six much larger runners instead of 12 small ones, but still retains the butterfly plate. The turbocharger is slightly better than the NICS item, and the electronics slightly more sophisticated. My best guess is that the ECCS motors were from late 1987/early 1988 until production ended, my personal car, a 1988 HR31 GTS coupe, has the ECCS motor.
- RB20DET-R "ECCS" with a large T04(?) sized turbo on a stainless steel tube manifold, and a large front mounted intercooler. This motor was fitted to the limited Group A homologation production of the HR31 GTS-R, and made 210ps. It may or may not have different camshafts and other internal differences. It is possibly identifiable by the "RB20DET-R" intake manifold badge.
Please note the HR31 ECCS motor and the HCR32 ECCS motors are NOT the same, the block, head, intake manifolds, turbos, electronics and many other components are completely different.
seventhskyline@gmail.com
220.253.133.29 13:19, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
According to this, it is a 3.6L twin turbo. This front is quite different again from the Tokyo Auto Salon prototype, has some family resemblance to the BNR34 to my eyes. Still waiting for some different sources. Anyone else seen anything?
Also it's got a big Skyline badge between the signature afterburners. So perhaps it will be a Skyline after all? RB30DE 21:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Right now we have three conflicting years for the introduction of the Skyline. The model history says '52, the sidebar says '57 and '55. Can anyone shed some light into this? Bal00 00:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that to the contrary, the DR30 in RS-X spec was available factory-intercooled. the lesser RS spec was not. However both versions did not use a blow-off-valve.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.38.209 ( talk • contribs)
Did the Skylines come out with the ATTESA system? Don't confuse this with the ATTESA E-TS system... I haven't looked through the article for Viscous yet however this showed up in search. I think Viscous diffs are used in ATTESA and electronically controlled ones used in ATTESA E-TS. -- 203.118.135.21 18:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC) (NzHamstar)
Also how come all the photos are from New Zealand lol... -- 203.118.135.21 18:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC) (NzHamstar)
becuause no one else posts up pictures and theres heaps of then in NZ, I work with 70 other people at my work and between us there is 2 r32 gts coups, 1 r32 gts25 sedan, 1 r32 GTR, 1 r33 gts25 coupe and 1 r33 gts25t seadn. Re the Q above, 4wd skylines use the attesa ETS system. User:spinnanz
This article is reasonably long now, and contains a fair bit of detail about the RB engines and the GT-Rs. How about moving some of the detail to Nissan RB engine & Nissan Skyline GT-R? Also Nismo GT-R Z-Tune is a bit of orphan, how about merging that into Nissan Skyline GT-R? RB30DE 22:58, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Nissan Japan V36 Skyline (Japanese, needs Flash) RB30DE 03:36, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Twice the page has been edited to remove V36 and replace it with G35. Yes it appears the car will be called an Infiniti G35 in the USA, but this page is about the Nissan Skyline, and it is called a V36. Refer to the Japanese Nissan site (Even just the URL). RB30DE 04:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Many of the images that have just appeared are from here: http://www.nissan.co.jp/MUSEUM/SKYLINE/
I'm looking at FUC and I'm still unclear about whether these qualify as fair use or not. RB30DE 20:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I've updated all the generations and the entire page with the new Infobox style that is in use on Automobile articles. I have left in all of the extra options (for example: length, height, weight, etc.). So please feel free to fill in all of the information. Thanks. ren0 talk 17:39, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Not sure how Wikipedia handles plagiarism, but the Nissan Skyline article is near identical to this allexperts.com article: http://en.allexperts.com/e/n/ni/nissan_skyline.htm
Looks like someone at allexperts.com cut and paste. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.170.206.82 ( talk) 23:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
Can someone point me to the guidelines that necessitated the removal of the Skyline's appearances in media? The IMCDb doesn't have half the information that was posted here before... ~ Dusk Knight 05:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
I've restored the media appearances. Based on the De Lorean DMC-12 featured article, I'd say it's fine to include this type of information. ~ Dusk Knight 04:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
This section has been cleaned out Per WP:EL. If anyone feels a link removed belongs, please explain. At the surface they all appear to violate WP:EL as community links or spam and should not be reinserted without discussion.-- Oni Ookami Alfador Talk| @ 20:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I beleive we should put a link back on to
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/forums.html, although not the all and end all of skylines the amount and quality of most information on the forum is a great resource to any owner or potential owner. membership is free.
Davidnbyrne
05:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Can I suggest please a link to www.gtr.co.uk ? It is an information resource that has with it a combined News, Press Release, Owners Club and Forum element to it. It is a multi-disciplined website and should not be treated as just a forum. It is also officially recognised and endorsed by Nissan GB. It has remained a primary source of Nissan Skyline information for over a decade. Blow dog ( talk) 14:43, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I noticed that there was no mention of the most influential asset of the GT-R: the computer. It should be noted that several variants of the ATTESA ET-S active driving computer were produced by Nissan for the GT-R's active driving computer. It's no secret that there were incremental updates to the system with each new generation from BNR32 to BNR34, but V-spec packages received a slightly different version. For the BCNR33 and BNR34, ATTESA-ETS Pro was fitted to V-spec models. The primary differences between the ATTESA ET-S and ATTESA ET-S Pro were: increased (allegedly doubled) polling rate of driving condition data to the central computer, adjustments to the active centre differential's behavior under conditions of slip (they were adjusted to allow greater levels of slip and responded more quickly for more aggressive driving), control of new front and rear torque converters to adjust for each individual wheel (this one is unconfirmed for the BCNR33 and BNR32 generations), and support for wheel-independent anti-lock brakes.
Not much is known about how ATTESA ET-S was configured for V-spec packages in the R32 generation because of very low production quantities of said V-spec, and the R32 generation used mechanical triggers to poll the computer, whereas the R33 and R34 generations introduced fully computerized monitoring. The revised ET-S Pro was introduced with the BCNR33 in 1995, so I don't know what changes to the system were made for the BNR32 V-spec and N1. Cheers, -- Setsunakute ( talk) 07:17, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
incorrect: "control of new front and rear torque converters to adjust for each individual wheel..." R33&34 Vspec have "A-LSD" (active-LSD) but none have front torque converters or any type of active front diff. -- bigD ( talk) 07:17, 07 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.68.240.66 ( talk)
I'm pretty positive that the new GTR is already available for purchase in Japan, however, this article words it in a way that makes it seem like it hasent been released. Mkid1 ( talk) 02:45, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
any information on what platform the r34 uses? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.229.227.219 ( talk) 05:29, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
It is EXTREMELY UNREASONABLE. V35 and V36 ARE Skylines but not GT-R only. This is a topic for Skyline, not GT-R, so V35 and V36 should be added back !
those cars developed by nissan and infinti. they're not as pure as the GT-R's as the GT-R's are developed by nissan alone. the v35 and v36 are believed to be lacking the racing pedigree passed down through the years by the Skyline GT-R's.
The Entire R35 Section needs to be deleted. The R35 GTR is no way connected to the current Skyline family. They are completely different models and should be treated as such.
But it is, for years the Sklyline GT-R was always Nissan's main techincal flagship. Anyways the Skyline name always comes hand in hand wit the GT-R badge - Darren —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.198.194 ( talk) 18:21, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
...but that's the thing: the R35 GT-R is NOT A SKYLINE! Therefore it has no place in a Wikipedia article about Nissan Skylines. The Skyline GT-R is a Skyline - it is built from a Skyline, just like any other Skyline, which is not the case with the R35 GT-R because that car has NOTHING in common with the Skyline or Skyline GT-R aside from the letters "G," "T," and "R."
The people that call the GT-R a Skyline are largely ignorant of what the GT-R is and what a is Skyline. To do otherwise would be an argument from popularity. A brief mention should be made, but there should be no section regarding the R35 ANYWHERE on this article. Space Turbo ( talk) 20:47, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I think the GT-R R35 has no relations (almost zero) with the Skyline, and the platforms are totally different, although they are built in the same factory. WKB( talk here/ This is not Facebook nor Malaysia) 11:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
It is most definately part of the greater Skyline family (like the Laurel, Stagea and Cefiro), but you're right in that it shouldn't be on this page. Those who deny it has any relation at all to the Skyline are the ignorant ones (Nissan inclusive if need be). Round rear lights - Skyline(later models anyway). GT-R name - Skyline. Mind blowing performance - Skyline GT-R. Plus a whole lot of other references that i don't have time to mention. I'm NOT saying it IS a Skyline, merely the Skyline GT-R was basically its birthplace, even though it has branched off in a different direction. SkylineObsession ( talk) 18:25, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
In the R32 GT-R sub-section, it is mentioned that the car's victory at Bathurst (Australia) in '91 and '92 led Australia's motoring press to dub it 'Godzilla'.
This is wrong and misleading.
Wheels magazine reviewed the car in their July '89 edition. The cover was a shot of the R32 with the word 'Godzilla' above it. That is where the name came from. The GT-R's victories at Bathurst only prompted the Australian Touring Car authorities to ban it for being too competitive... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.109.5 ( talk) 12:47, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
This is a completely made up thing, which has never existed or would exist to this day. The only things I could find regarding this, were sales posts on various forums of R33 GTS-T's, with GT-R front end conversions or RB25DET to RB26DETT engine swaps. A few posts from June of 2015 have cited however, that a "GTS-R" is real and a very rare car, which everyone should sought after. I highly believe, that the Wikipedia article has been modified by the same person, looking to fool people about their car being worth more and trying therefore to justify the ridiculous asking price. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.93.105.187 ( talk) 15:46, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Reference is made to the 'South Australian market' in the S54 section. Surely this was not restricted to South Australia? South Australia is a very small market, in fact less than half that of New Zealand (4.47 million vs 1.67 million). Should this be the 'Australian market' or was it confused with the South Africa market ? Terrybebb ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:39, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
http://www.nismo.co.jp/Z-tune/data_e/1.html
It wasn't a production model, just a package of parts that Nismo Omori would install to an R32/R33/R34 Skyline GT-R that is now deprecated with the new demo cars developed. Some clarification in the R32 section would help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.232.97.20 ( talk) 01:16, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
That's a massive paragraph, and the formatting and punctuation on it are absolutely bizarre. Someone should revise it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zukriuchen ( talk • contribs) 09:34, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
What is the price of r34 @2018. Nuwantha Tharindu ( talk) 13:12, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
This is a dubious claim, in the last paragraph for the lead-in. I don't delete such things without researching, but I can't find a single source that supports this claim. I'll leave this for a couple weeks with the tag, then delete it unless someone finds an actual Guinness verified record on the Guinness site to corroborate the claim. 2600:8804:80:2280:809D:484A:71B:F5E ( talk) 22:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Somebody deleted my comment because they got upset for some reason but with all logic the image should show the iconic R34 as I have repeatedly tried to change it to. Please stop coming up with frankly ridiculous reasons to reverse this. DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 07:03, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
I am finally unbanned from a completely ridiculous and frivolous ban but I'm gonna stop you right there. The R34 is not my favourite. It is just the one that obviously should be shown if you have any functioning logic centre in your brain. It's the iconic, representative image that every knows as Skyline and everyone thinks of when they hear Skyline. By everyone I mean the general public. What you changed it to is ridiculous most people don't even know what that is. Absolutely ridiculous that nobody changed that in 4 days but people change my normal image of a well known car instantly. The cars in the background are only distracting if you have extreme ADHD which most people don't. What you say is absurd and ridiculous, and please consult the talk page before changing to your preferred version. Otherwise it may lead to editwars. DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 09:50, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Search Nissan Skyline and go to images lol. DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 11:26, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Also I would like to add that you dismiss my changes due to being opinion based, I told you it is not my favourite skyline and that isn't why I chose it, and yet you continue to repeatedly change it to the one you said is your personal favourite. How hypocritical DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 11:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Thirdly you say my diatribe and yet your previous message was longer than the one I responded with. You can't stop being hypocritical, can you? DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 11:33, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Search term | count |
---|---|
Nissan Skyline r32 | 9,370,000 |
Nissan Skyline r33 | 5,800,000 |
Nissan Skyline r34 | 9,720,000 |
Nissan Skyline r35 | 12,900,000 |
Nissan Skyline r36 | 348,000 |
Nissan Skyline r37 | 43,100 |
The hypocrisy is mind blowing. You npcs have such a retarded hivemind. DavidMalcolm1212112221 ( talk) 10:13, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Mr.choppers, @
Stepho-wrs, @
DavidMalcolm1212112221, @
Barras suck L Ford
Are there any images any of you would like to add to the pile before I start an RFC?, I'll start it either in the evening or tomorrow evening, Thanks, –
Davey2010
Talk
13:10, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Nissan Skyline GT-R is a standalone article, therefore it would be wrong to use a GT-R image for the infobox here. It would be like having a Renault 5 Turbo at Renault 5, or the Ford Supervan at Ford Transit. Those pictures should be removed from the discussion. Personally I don't think these two articles should be separate, but that's another discussion. You will notice a large number of "iconic" GT-R images in that article, though. As for looks, can we please just stick to the WP:CARPIX guidelines? That's how Wikipedia works. I include them here, too, so that we can stop having people just state WP:IDONTLIKEIT over and over again (sections specifically regarding the main infobox images are in bold):
Thank you. Mr.choppers | ✎ 13:13, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
R34 GT-Rs made in January 1999 are now legal to import to the United States as it is January 2024. The article should reflect this as soon as possible. GGUltima ( talk) 01:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)