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After several long years of debating, with a number of editors involved, a stable version of the lead was reached. Now we have a new wave of POV pushing in the lead which labels Tesla as Croatian-American (and he was not born in Croatia). Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 15:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Sadko: Nikola Tesla is Croatian-American and this is proven with more RS sources. There is consensus against mine edit? What I have to do? Find fifty more sources? There is no reason for RV. Mikola22 ( talk) 20:34, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Someone has stuck on a template saying this article is to be edited in British English. O really? Can someone please take this absurd template off this page, as it is some dank Wikimagic beyond my powers to fix. -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 20:38, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I would add that he was Croatian-Serbian-American scientist because he was born in Croatia and he said:"I am proud of my Serbian etnicity and my Croatian homeland." Dragstar123 ( talk) 16:57, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Chetvorno TALK 15:58, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Chetvorno TALK 18:30, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Nikola Tesla died of Coronary thrombosis. Very disapointed that I cannot edit this for the better but maybe someone can ? Dizdop ( talk) 18:09, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
Reverted this edit for many reasons:
Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 15:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Vanjagenije (talk) 15:05, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus.-- Chetvorno TALK 16:51, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Vanjagenije (talk) 15:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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He was a Croatian and Serbian inventor who moved to USA. He wasn't Serbo American inventor. 151.252.225.248 ( talk) 22:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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There is speculation that Nikola Tesla came from Morovlach descent, is like to put that in. 2600:1702:280:4BE0:8170:F988:ED30:CBB4 ( talk) 18:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
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There is speculation that Nikola Tesla came from Morovlach descent, is like to put that in. 2600:1702:280:4BE0:55D:6D10:42CF:13F ( talk) 02:06, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Chetvorno TALK 22:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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nikola tesla is not serbian american he is just serbian can you please change that . Jelena peric 1 ( talk) 01:46, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Nikola Tesla is Croatian and Serbian not Serbian can you correct that pleas?? 93.141.36.65 ( talk) 12:43, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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He was not serbian but Albanian and there are photos of him in old Albanian clothes. If you dont belive me write on google Nikola Tesla Albanian and you will be convinced that he was Albanian 185.171.63.150 ( talk) 19:23, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
"own biography" needs to be replaced by "autobiography". The reason should be self evident!
(Odd oversight: the word "autobiography" is used several times elsewhere in the article...)
To wit: In his own biography, Tesla stated the manager of the Edison Machine Works offered a $50,000 bonus to design "twenty-four different types of standard machines"
68.111.65.87 ( talk) 15:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Should we change the image of Telsa's statue at Niagara Falls at the bottom of the article to one that shows the front of the statue? ( There are several to choose from.) I would have just changed it myself, but I thought that some might prefer an image with the waterfall in the background to illustrate its location like the one that's there now, even though such an image doesn't provide the best view of the statue. CaptainBillyCatPants ( talk) 08:51, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
The description of Swezey as a science fiction writer appears to be inaccurate; he has no publications listed at isfdb.org, and this page only mentions science writing. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 01:04, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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Nikola Tesla was Serbian not American 78.94.244.2 ( talk) 12:21, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
I think that the words "GPU" and "microarchitecture" should have links referencing Graphics processing unit and Microarchitecture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjmatthy ( talk • contribs) 19:09, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
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Nikola Tesla is a croatian and serbian Lunixbruh6445 ( talk) 18:32, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Vanjagenije (talk) 13:48, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
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Tesla was a Serbian ingeener, not Serian-American 185.238.122.124 ( talk) 21:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Editors may be interested to read this letter by Tesla, which could be of use for unnecessary debates about his origin which might reemerge. Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 16:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
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Add Nikola Tesla to the category "People associated with electricity" ( /info/en/?search=Category:People_associated_with_electricity) Killer08932 ( talk) 12:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
The account of Vivekananda meeting does not occur in any of Tesla's own writing. The event is mentioned only in a letter by Vivekananda addressed to a not-so-famous New York resident named E. T. Sturdy. And the source of the claim is Subhash Kak ChandlerMinh ( talk) 16:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
We actually don't base article content on Tesla's own primary source writings, we cite reliable secondary sources which, again, predate Kak on this, and are not all "Indian". We can only note what they say, we can't fix the world of pseudoscience. Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 16:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Fountains of Bryn Mawr changed general statement about conflict (documented in Tesla's autobiography) on 8/2/2021 and then deleted his own change claiming this fact is not relevant (10/2/2021). Conflict is relevant because it shows Tesla's deep understanding of the technology at an early stage of his university studies and that he had the courage to dispute over the topic even with his prof.-- Josephine1915 ( talk) 22:03, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
"Conflict is relevant because it shows Tesla's deep understanding of the technology at an early stage of his university studies".And there is the problem, its your original thought derived from a primary source. And the section in the book is about a priority claim to the invention of the induction motor. Its out of context in the article section (section is not about the induction motor). Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 23:46, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
i agree Cale565 ( talk) 16:40, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
I believe that the Obsessive Compulsive tendencies of Nikola Tesla starting around 1917 deserve at least a paragraph of attention, as they played a significant role in the later years of his life. His behaviors seem to be documented on other sites: "Tesla had obsessive compulsive disorder, which compelled him to do things in threes, including only inhabiting a hotel room that was divisible by the number three. He had an obsession with pigeons and an aversion to women wearing earrings, contributing to his reputation as eccentric." (1);
The International OCD foundation also mentions that he had what would be considered today to be "severe OCD", although they offer no additional facts.
(1) https://www.aaas.org/brilliant-and-tortured-world-nikola-tesla (2) https://www.ocduk.org/ocd/history-of-ocd/nikola-tesla/ (3) https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-rise-and-fall-of-nikola-tesla-and-his-tower-11074324/
-- BazingaResearcher ( talk) 16:55, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Okay, I can look around some for better/more accurate information. -- BazingaResearcher ( talk) 00:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
I just wanted to inform everyone that I am in the process of recording this article. Thanks! Camshaft64 ( Talk | Contributions) 17:52, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Zagreb Technical Museum has an permanent exhibition dedicated to Nikola Tesla and was renamed The Nikola Tesla Technical Museum in 2015. Could it be added to the Places named after Tesla? /info/en/?search=Technical_Museum,_Zagreb 95.168.116.118 ( talk) 21:14, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
The original 1919 articles of the autobiography : "My Inventions" by Nikola Tesla are available at the Internet Archive (Electrical Experimenter issue date, starting page) :
I. My early life (Feb 1919, p696) https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_02/page/n17/mode/2up
II. My first efforts in invention (Mar 1919, p776) https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_03/page/n17/mode/2up
III. My later endeavors : The discovery of the rotating magnetic field (Apr 1919, p864) https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_04/page/n17/mode/2up
IV. The discovery of the tesla coil and transformer (May 1919, p16) https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_05/page/n17/mode/2up
V. The magnifying transmitter (Jun 1919, p112) https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_06/page/n17/mode/2up
VI. The Art of Telautomatics (Oct 1919, p506) https://archive.org/details/nikola-tesla-telautomatics-remote-control
(Announcing the Tesla's articles to come - Jan 1919, p614 https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_01/page/n15/mode/2up)
Reading fully these articles may not be as easy as the already available transcripts, but they include some photos and diagrams.
Feel free to add them if needed. Thanks in advance Jurbop ( talk) 09:12, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Here we can read that Nikola's mother's father was a Serbian Orthodox Church minister, not "... whose father was also an Eastern Orthodox Church priest,". This misnomer for Serbian Orthodox Church in Austria-Hungary was enforced by Roman Catholic Church.-- 77.46.214.187 ( talk) 09:14, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
Note: The reference used here is clear: "His father, like her husband. was a minister of the Serbian Orthodox Church." If we dig it deeper, Djuka's father, Nikola's mother was a minister of the Church in Bosnia in the times when Bosnia was under Turks.-- 77.46.214.187 ( talk) 08:41, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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In article Nikola Tesla , I made some mistakes, thank for your revert! I have a question about that, Tesla is not physicist, Why he belongs to WikiProject Physics? Because he used to still contributes in the field of physics? MoJieCPD ( talk) 02:32, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
This came up before (it may have been here?) re: is adding a Wikipedia project heading to a talk page a POV statement? The consensus was "yeah, it kinda is". The entire Tesla fan world calls Tesla a scientist or physicist but the one authoritative book by a historian and engineer ( Carlson) says in no way was Tesla any kind of scientist. That puts us up against WP:YESPOV re: "Avoid stating seriously contested assertions as facts. If different reliable sources make conflicting assertions about a matter, treat these assertions as opinions rather than facts, and do not present them as direct statements." (actually its worse than that because Carlson is not being contradicted by any comparable reliable source). Is a Wikipedia project banner a "direct statement"? I guess that would be one for Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council. I think things like three phase and the Tesla coil are better served by adding those to WP:WikiProject Physics than Tesla himself. Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 17:14, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
This doesn't quite strike me as WP:RS appropriate for an encyclopedia article. https://teslauniverse.com/about clearly says it's a fan site, a blog, so we have 23 citations to a violation of WP:SPS/ WP:UGC on a matter where there really must be better sources out there. -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 14:57, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
RandomCanadian that edit you reverted was quite suspicious harking back to references accessed in 2010 (?!), but the gist of it the claim that Tesla didn't just learn German in high school doesn't seem to be false. That's probably why folks keep coming back to it. A Croatian professor who was an early website enthusiast Darko Žubrinić has long published a copy of the Nikola Tesla Maturitäts-Zeugnis ( Matura certification, high school diploma) from 1873 at [9] / [10] that shows both German and Croatian. This was actually mentioned in /Archive 9 once upon a time (but was then crossed out, I don't quite see why, that would take more history spelunking to figure out). Essentially, the article currently mentions various minutia about Tesla's early years, so it doesn't really make much sense for it to also specifically harp on how he was only taught German when that doesn't seem to be actually accurate. -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 10:16, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Školske godine 1852./53. u sva četiri razreda upisalo se samo 36 učenika. [...] Ukidanjem Bachova apsolutizma hrvatske školske vlasti naredile su da se odmah uklone učitelji koji nisu znali hrvatski jezik i da se umjesto razredne organizira predmetna nastava.
Nikola Tesla was born an ethnic Serb in the village of Smiljan, within the Military Frontier, in the Austrian Empire (present day Croatia), that would be redundant writing, as "Croatia" is already present in the sentence (thus making no ambiguity possible). You could argue for changing the target of the piped link, which would make sense in this case. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 23:07, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I recently changed the hyperlinks for Austrian Empire that link directly to the Empire to link to the region in the Empire that he was born in. Ex: Austrian Empire.
This was reverted, I did so because in the Wikipedia Manual for Linking it states this:
For geographic places specified with the name of the larger territorial unit following a comma, generally do not link the larger unit. For example, avoid Buffalo, New York or Sydney, New South Wales; instead use Buffalo, New York or Sydney, New South Wales.
I thought this applied to the part of the articlce that says Nikola Tesla was born an ethnic Serb in the village of Smiljan, within the Military Frontier, in the Austrian Empire (present day Croatia)....
Was I wrong to do so? I thought it followed the style that Wikipedia is in but I must be wrong. Just curious as to why I was. ProperAndPolite ( talk) 11:59, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
[[French Fifth Republic|France]]
- in a context where the distinction is relevant - would be logical. Linking [[Kingdom of Croatia (Habsburg)|Austrian Empire]]
, not quite so).
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contribs) 12:48, 5 November 2021 (UTC)This was listed in 2006, and has since seen a fair bit of change. There's a lot of sentences that are unreferenced, though, so I'm not sure it meets WP:GACR. Does anyone care to fix it up, or should we put it up for WP:GAR? -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 09:39, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello, there is a small typo which I cannot correct, the article being protected. In the following phrase :
Tesla may have inadvertently captured an X-ray image—predating, by a few weeks, Wilhelm Röntgen's December 1895 announcement of the discovery of X-rays when he tried to photograph Mark Twain illuminated by a Geissler tube, an earlier type of gas discharge tube. The only thing captured in the image was the metal locking screw on the camera lens.[131]
between X-rays and when, a hyphen should be added, like this:
Tesla may have inadvertently captured an X-ray image — predating, by a few weeks, Wilhelm Röntgen's December 1895 announcement of the discovery of X-rays — when he tried to photograph Mark Twain illuminated by a Geissler tube, an earlier type of gas discharge tube. The only thing captured in the image was the metal locking screw on the camera lens.[131] 194.39.218.10 ( talk) 16:38, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Just watched a video from an academic who claimed that the antagonism towards Einstein was more "open" than what this Article seems to indicate. One, he called Einstein a "fuzzy-haired crackpot" and two he wrote a (presumably negative) poem about Einstein. Came here to see if the text of the poem was included in this Article. The Lede says Tesla "wrote poems" but that's it. Occurs to me that the Article would be dramatically "punched up" if these two interesting facts could be verified, and then included. Going to look for sources to find out if they actually happened, but posting this for posterity in case I fail. Maybe someone else knows this, has a source, and could include this interesting aspect of Tesla. 107.195.106.201 ( talk) 16:38, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 05:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
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In Ontario, Canada, the provincial legislature proclaimed July 10th as an annual recognition of his birth. Source: [1] 99.240.117.4 ( talk) 21:58, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Please please I will beg please open edit so we can type other information about Nikola Tesla. I will beg 😭 2409:4071:E8E:AE29:A2F5:7F9F:FBA9:F04E ( talk) 18:58, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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Nikola Tesla was Croatian inventor, not Serbian Dorian Mihajlovic ( talk) 13:08, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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Yet, this omits the useful detail that it was in Manhattan as opposed to the other five boroughs. Also,
MOS:OVERLINK, which is policy, says don't link NYC because it's a common term. Too common to list without the borough, IMO. –
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For geographic places specified with the name of the larger territorial unit following a comma, generally do not link the larger unit. For example, avoid Buffalo, New York, United States or Sydney, New South Wales, Australia; instead use Buffalo, New York, United States or Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 14:26, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Looks like "New York City, U.S." is where we are at (at least there is no consensus to change it). Actually we should be at " New York City, New York, U.S." (one previous edit) but I don't see anyone there. Please note: MOS:OVERLINK doesn't extend to infoboxes (see MOS:REPEATLINK, next section). " New York City, U.S." falls under "helpful for readers" and " New York City" is going to be more commonly known for the same general readers than " Manhattan". Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 18:11, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
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164.116.126.161 ( talk) 22:11, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
can i edit
There are a lot of schools I know of that are named after N.Tesla in Serbia. I would guess that there must be a number of schools like this in Croatia as well as other former Yugoslav republics, since N.T. was one of our (yugo?) greatest scientists. Should we list all of these? Also, Belgrade international airport is named after Nikola Tesla — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.117.194.66 ( talk) 12:32, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
This was a fantastic article that pays a tribute to a legend. I very much enjoyed reading it. I made a few improvements to text and layout. For the most part I do not see what more can be done to improve it.
ICE77 ( talk) 23:24, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
@ Vipz: The article itself states (and is sourced): "Tesla was a lifelong bachelor, who had once explained that his chastity was very helpful to his scientific abilities." The BBC says he was celibate. [14] So Category:Reputed virgins is appropriate. Clarityfiend ( talk) 09:01, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
I removed this section to talk because it seems to be very WP:OFFTOPIC (and its a little plagiarized). Wikipedia biographies just don't seem to go into detail much beyond parents so my first though was that this should be boiled down but (once you get rid of the aunts and uncles) it gets into WP:PROPORTION problems re: what are we trying to say and is it verifiable? eg. "Tesla came from a military family" or "had a military background"? ... well no, Tesla's father was non-military, maybe even an objector. Even though this may be verifiable and impartial, it seems disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic and I can really see no reason for a detailed description in a biography that has nothing to do with the subjects notability. Anyway, kicked it here to talk for discussion. Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 22:31, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
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There was even a "war of currents" propaganda campaign going on with Edison Electric trying to claim their direct current system was better and safer
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There was even a "war of currents" propaganda campaign going on with Edison Electric claiming their direct current system was better and safer Rundleson Gubberts ( talk) 20:44, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
While on the stamp in his baptism document it states Serbian Orthodox Church.. to which clergy his father belonged.. could that please be corrected.. as Eastern Orthodox is pretty generic 173.66.204.212 ( talk) 04:41, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
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Nikola Tesla did not contribute to AC he is the founder of AC get it right!
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“Personal life and character” section, “Relationships” subsection, paragraph 3:
Change “Tesla later wrote an article titled ‘Man's Greatest Achievenment’” to “Tesla later wrote an article titled ‘Man's Greatest Achievement’”
TLDR: “Achievement” is spelled wrong in the published version copied above. 100.19.74.193 ( talk) 21:16, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
According to the references in the section Nikola_Tesla#On_experimental_and_theoretical_physics, and according to current definitions of science and pseudoscience, this person should be judged as a pseudoscientific physicists.
This is also related to page Theoretical_physics#Examples_2. 王韋中 ( talk) 08:22, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Both are listed as his intentions, but to my knowledge, Tesla only proposed a teleforce. 2604:F880:0:A2:BC32:70D1:9324:6AFB ( talk) 21:52, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
He then gaining practical experience in the early 1880s
gained not gaining
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Nikola Tesla was expelled from college, because his ideas were not supported by the professors of the college. 2406:B400:72:8045:284B:449A:57E7:1A92 ( talk) 02:58, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
We're up to 3 notices essentially about the same subject. As the requests despite them have continued, their extra volume has probably been ineffective. Whoever is going to heed these warnings doesn't need it to be repeated. Whoever is not, will not care for the repetition either. Does anyone mind if we merge these into a single notice? -- Joy ( talk) 12:27, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Section on Colorado Springs mentions "an arrangement for the El Paso Power Company...". The link to the El Paso Power Company links to the El Paso, Texas, Electric Company. I strongly suspect that the El Paso being referred to in the article is El Paso county, Colorado, which contains Colorado Springs, and so the El Paso Power Company is not the electric company in Texas. So perhaps https://elpaso-electric.com/ is the correct link? Sorry, I don't know how to edit Wikipedia, but I hope someone who does can check this out. Thanks. 2600:1700:A630:4630:81D3:BB17:F315:18E8 ( talk) 04:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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In the "Early Years" section of the Wikipedia article on Nikola Tesla, the following is stated: "He had three sisters, Milka, Angelina, and Marica, and an older brother named Dane, who was killed in a horse riding accident when Tesla was aged five." But the source that is quoted (#22: Carlson 2013, p. 21.) clearly states that Tesla's brother Dane died when he was seven.
Although we only have the year (1863) of Dane's death, if you do the math from Tesla's own words, he was certainly six or seven when Dane died. In Tesla's autobiography ( http://www.tfcbooks.com/e-books/my_inventions.pdf), published at age 63 (as stated at the top of the PDF linked above), he states "I witnest the tragic scene and altho fifty-six years have elapsed since, my visual impression of it has lost none of its force." Subtracting 56 from 63 gives us 7, the age that your source, W. Bernard Carlson states. Even if we loosely interpret his recollection and add a few months for estimation, the youngest Tesla could have been when Dane died, per Tesla's words, is 6.
Also, Dane's grave states that he died in 1863, when Tesla was 6 in the first part of the year and turned 7 in July:( https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/timeline/1863-dane-tesla-dies). ( https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/169854249/dane-tesla)
In short please change "He had three sisters, Milka, Angelina, and Marica, and an older brother named Dane, who was killed in a horse riding accident when Tesla was aged five." to "He had three sisters, Milka, Angelina, and Marica, and an older brother named Dane, who was killed in a horse riding accident when Tesla was aged six or seven." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scuzzos ( talk • contribs) 22:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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After several long years of debating, with a number of editors involved, a stable version of the lead was reached. Now we have a new wave of POV pushing in the lead which labels Tesla as Croatian-American (and he was not born in Croatia). Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 15:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Sadko: Nikola Tesla is Croatian-American and this is proven with more RS sources. There is consensus against mine edit? What I have to do? Find fifty more sources? There is no reason for RV. Mikola22 ( talk) 20:34, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Someone has stuck on a template saying this article is to be edited in British English. O really? Can someone please take this absurd template off this page, as it is some dank Wikimagic beyond my powers to fix. -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 20:38, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I would add that he was Croatian-Serbian-American scientist because he was born in Croatia and he said:"I am proud of my Serbian etnicity and my Croatian homeland." Dragstar123 ( talk) 16:57, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Chetvorno TALK 15:58, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Chetvorno TALK 18:30, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Nikola Tesla died of Coronary thrombosis. Very disapointed that I cannot edit this for the better but maybe someone can ? Dizdop ( talk) 18:09, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
Reverted this edit for many reasons:
Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 15:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Vanjagenije (talk) 15:05, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus.-- Chetvorno TALK 16:51, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Vanjagenije (talk) 15:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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He was a Croatian and Serbian inventor who moved to USA. He wasn't Serbo American inventor. 151.252.225.248 ( talk) 22:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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There is speculation that Nikola Tesla came from Morovlach descent, is like to put that in. 2600:1702:280:4BE0:8170:F988:ED30:CBB4 ( talk) 18:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
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There is speculation that Nikola Tesla came from Morovlach descent, is like to put that in. 2600:1702:280:4BE0:55D:6D10:42CF:13F ( talk) 02:06, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Chetvorno TALK 22:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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nikola tesla is not serbian american he is just serbian can you please change that . Jelena peric 1 ( talk) 01:46, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Nikola Tesla is Croatian and Serbian not Serbian can you correct that pleas?? 93.141.36.65 ( talk) 12:43, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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He was not serbian but Albanian and there are photos of him in old Albanian clothes. If you dont belive me write on google Nikola Tesla Albanian and you will be convinced that he was Albanian 185.171.63.150 ( talk) 19:23, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
"own biography" needs to be replaced by "autobiography". The reason should be self evident!
(Odd oversight: the word "autobiography" is used several times elsewhere in the article...)
To wit: In his own biography, Tesla stated the manager of the Edison Machine Works offered a $50,000 bonus to design "twenty-four different types of standard machines"
68.111.65.87 ( talk) 15:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Should we change the image of Telsa's statue at Niagara Falls at the bottom of the article to one that shows the front of the statue? ( There are several to choose from.) I would have just changed it myself, but I thought that some might prefer an image with the waterfall in the background to illustrate its location like the one that's there now, even though such an image doesn't provide the best view of the statue. CaptainBillyCatPants ( talk) 08:51, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
The description of Swezey as a science fiction writer appears to be inaccurate; he has no publications listed at isfdb.org, and this page only mentions science writing. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 01:04, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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Nikola Tesla was Serbian not American 78.94.244.2 ( talk) 12:21, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
I think that the words "GPU" and "microarchitecture" should have links referencing Graphics processing unit and Microarchitecture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjmatthy ( talk • contribs) 19:09, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
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Nikola Tesla is a croatian and serbian Lunixbruh6445 ( talk) 18:32, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
per Talk page and 16 June 2015 RfC consensus. -- Vanjagenije (talk) 13:48, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
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Tesla was a Serbian ingeener, not Serian-American 185.238.122.124 ( talk) 21:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Editors may be interested to read this letter by Tesla, which could be of use for unnecessary debates about his origin which might reemerge. Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 16:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
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Add Nikola Tesla to the category "People associated with electricity" ( /info/en/?search=Category:People_associated_with_electricity) Killer08932 ( talk) 12:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
The account of Vivekananda meeting does not occur in any of Tesla's own writing. The event is mentioned only in a letter by Vivekananda addressed to a not-so-famous New York resident named E. T. Sturdy. And the source of the claim is Subhash Kak ChandlerMinh ( talk) 16:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
We actually don't base article content on Tesla's own primary source writings, we cite reliable secondary sources which, again, predate Kak on this, and are not all "Indian". We can only note what they say, we can't fix the world of pseudoscience. Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 16:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Fountains of Bryn Mawr changed general statement about conflict (documented in Tesla's autobiography) on 8/2/2021 and then deleted his own change claiming this fact is not relevant (10/2/2021). Conflict is relevant because it shows Tesla's deep understanding of the technology at an early stage of his university studies and that he had the courage to dispute over the topic even with his prof.-- Josephine1915 ( talk) 22:03, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
"Conflict is relevant because it shows Tesla's deep understanding of the technology at an early stage of his university studies".And there is the problem, its your original thought derived from a primary source. And the section in the book is about a priority claim to the invention of the induction motor. Its out of context in the article section (section is not about the induction motor). Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 23:46, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
i agree Cale565 ( talk) 16:40, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
I believe that the Obsessive Compulsive tendencies of Nikola Tesla starting around 1917 deserve at least a paragraph of attention, as they played a significant role in the later years of his life. His behaviors seem to be documented on other sites: "Tesla had obsessive compulsive disorder, which compelled him to do things in threes, including only inhabiting a hotel room that was divisible by the number three. He had an obsession with pigeons and an aversion to women wearing earrings, contributing to his reputation as eccentric." (1);
The International OCD foundation also mentions that he had what would be considered today to be "severe OCD", although they offer no additional facts.
(1) https://www.aaas.org/brilliant-and-tortured-world-nikola-tesla (2) https://www.ocduk.org/ocd/history-of-ocd/nikola-tesla/ (3) https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-rise-and-fall-of-nikola-tesla-and-his-tower-11074324/
-- BazingaResearcher ( talk) 16:55, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Okay, I can look around some for better/more accurate information. -- BazingaResearcher ( talk) 00:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
I just wanted to inform everyone that I am in the process of recording this article. Thanks! Camshaft64 ( Talk | Contributions) 17:52, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Zagreb Technical Museum has an permanent exhibition dedicated to Nikola Tesla and was renamed The Nikola Tesla Technical Museum in 2015. Could it be added to the Places named after Tesla? /info/en/?search=Technical_Museum,_Zagreb 95.168.116.118 ( talk) 21:14, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
The original 1919 articles of the autobiography : "My Inventions" by Nikola Tesla are available at the Internet Archive (Electrical Experimenter issue date, starting page) :
I. My early life (Feb 1919, p696) https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_02/page/n17/mode/2up
II. My first efforts in invention (Mar 1919, p776) https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_03/page/n17/mode/2up
III. My later endeavors : The discovery of the rotating magnetic field (Apr 1919, p864) https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_04/page/n17/mode/2up
IV. The discovery of the tesla coil and transformer (May 1919, p16) https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_05/page/n17/mode/2up
V. The magnifying transmitter (Jun 1919, p112) https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_06/page/n17/mode/2up
VI. The Art of Telautomatics (Oct 1919, p506) https://archive.org/details/nikola-tesla-telautomatics-remote-control
(Announcing the Tesla's articles to come - Jan 1919, p614 https://archive.org/details/Electrical_Experimenter_1919_01/page/n15/mode/2up)
Reading fully these articles may not be as easy as the already available transcripts, but they include some photos and diagrams.
Feel free to add them if needed. Thanks in advance Jurbop ( talk) 09:12, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Here we can read that Nikola's mother's father was a Serbian Orthodox Church minister, not "... whose father was also an Eastern Orthodox Church priest,". This misnomer for Serbian Orthodox Church in Austria-Hungary was enforced by Roman Catholic Church.-- 77.46.214.187 ( talk) 09:14, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
Note: The reference used here is clear: "His father, like her husband. was a minister of the Serbian Orthodox Church." If we dig it deeper, Djuka's father, Nikola's mother was a minister of the Church in Bosnia in the times when Bosnia was under Turks.-- 77.46.214.187 ( talk) 08:41, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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In article Nikola Tesla , I made some mistakes, thank for your revert! I have a question about that, Tesla is not physicist, Why he belongs to WikiProject Physics? Because he used to still contributes in the field of physics? MoJieCPD ( talk) 02:32, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
This came up before (it may have been here?) re: is adding a Wikipedia project heading to a talk page a POV statement? The consensus was "yeah, it kinda is". The entire Tesla fan world calls Tesla a scientist or physicist but the one authoritative book by a historian and engineer ( Carlson) says in no way was Tesla any kind of scientist. That puts us up against WP:YESPOV re: "Avoid stating seriously contested assertions as facts. If different reliable sources make conflicting assertions about a matter, treat these assertions as opinions rather than facts, and do not present them as direct statements." (actually its worse than that because Carlson is not being contradicted by any comparable reliable source). Is a Wikipedia project banner a "direct statement"? I guess that would be one for Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council. I think things like three phase and the Tesla coil are better served by adding those to WP:WikiProject Physics than Tesla himself. Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 17:14, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
This doesn't quite strike me as WP:RS appropriate for an encyclopedia article. https://teslauniverse.com/about clearly says it's a fan site, a blog, so we have 23 citations to a violation of WP:SPS/ WP:UGC on a matter where there really must be better sources out there. -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 14:57, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
RandomCanadian that edit you reverted was quite suspicious harking back to references accessed in 2010 (?!), but the gist of it the claim that Tesla didn't just learn German in high school doesn't seem to be false. That's probably why folks keep coming back to it. A Croatian professor who was an early website enthusiast Darko Žubrinić has long published a copy of the Nikola Tesla Maturitäts-Zeugnis ( Matura certification, high school diploma) from 1873 at [9] / [10] that shows both German and Croatian. This was actually mentioned in /Archive 9 once upon a time (but was then crossed out, I don't quite see why, that would take more history spelunking to figure out). Essentially, the article currently mentions various minutia about Tesla's early years, so it doesn't really make much sense for it to also specifically harp on how he was only taught German when that doesn't seem to be actually accurate. -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 10:16, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Školske godine 1852./53. u sva četiri razreda upisalo se samo 36 učenika. [...] Ukidanjem Bachova apsolutizma hrvatske školske vlasti naredile su da se odmah uklone učitelji koji nisu znali hrvatski jezik i da se umjesto razredne organizira predmetna nastava.
Nikola Tesla was born an ethnic Serb in the village of Smiljan, within the Military Frontier, in the Austrian Empire (present day Croatia), that would be redundant writing, as "Croatia" is already present in the sentence (thus making no ambiguity possible). You could argue for changing the target of the piped link, which would make sense in this case. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 23:07, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I recently changed the hyperlinks for Austrian Empire that link directly to the Empire to link to the region in the Empire that he was born in. Ex: Austrian Empire.
This was reverted, I did so because in the Wikipedia Manual for Linking it states this:
For geographic places specified with the name of the larger territorial unit following a comma, generally do not link the larger unit. For example, avoid Buffalo, New York or Sydney, New South Wales; instead use Buffalo, New York or Sydney, New South Wales.
I thought this applied to the part of the articlce that says Nikola Tesla was born an ethnic Serb in the village of Smiljan, within the Military Frontier, in the Austrian Empire (present day Croatia)....
Was I wrong to do so? I thought it followed the style that Wikipedia is in but I must be wrong. Just curious as to why I was. ProperAndPolite ( talk) 11:59, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
[[French Fifth Republic|France]]
- in a context where the distinction is relevant - would be logical. Linking [[Kingdom of Croatia (Habsburg)|Austrian Empire]]
, not quite so).
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contribs) 12:48, 5 November 2021 (UTC)This was listed in 2006, and has since seen a fair bit of change. There's a lot of sentences that are unreferenced, though, so I'm not sure it meets WP:GACR. Does anyone care to fix it up, or should we put it up for WP:GAR? -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 09:39, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello, there is a small typo which I cannot correct, the article being protected. In the following phrase :
Tesla may have inadvertently captured an X-ray image—predating, by a few weeks, Wilhelm Röntgen's December 1895 announcement of the discovery of X-rays when he tried to photograph Mark Twain illuminated by a Geissler tube, an earlier type of gas discharge tube. The only thing captured in the image was the metal locking screw on the camera lens.[131]
between X-rays and when, a hyphen should be added, like this:
Tesla may have inadvertently captured an X-ray image — predating, by a few weeks, Wilhelm Röntgen's December 1895 announcement of the discovery of X-rays — when he tried to photograph Mark Twain illuminated by a Geissler tube, an earlier type of gas discharge tube. The only thing captured in the image was the metal locking screw on the camera lens.[131] 194.39.218.10 ( talk) 16:38, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Just watched a video from an academic who claimed that the antagonism towards Einstein was more "open" than what this Article seems to indicate. One, he called Einstein a "fuzzy-haired crackpot" and two he wrote a (presumably negative) poem about Einstein. Came here to see if the text of the poem was included in this Article. The Lede says Tesla "wrote poems" but that's it. Occurs to me that the Article would be dramatically "punched up" if these two interesting facts could be verified, and then included. Going to look for sources to find out if they actually happened, but posting this for posterity in case I fail. Maybe someone else knows this, has a source, and could include this interesting aspect of Tesla. 107.195.106.201 ( talk) 16:38, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Peer reviewers: Nsalluce.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 05:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
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In Ontario, Canada, the provincial legislature proclaimed July 10th as an annual recognition of his birth. Source: [1] 99.240.117.4 ( talk) 21:58, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Please please I will beg please open edit so we can type other information about Nikola Tesla. I will beg 😭 2409:4071:E8E:AE29:A2F5:7F9F:FBA9:F04E ( talk) 18:58, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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Nikola Tesla was Croatian inventor, not Serbian Dorian Mihajlovic ( talk) 13:08, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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talk) 13:18, 25 April 2022 (UTC)An edit summary pointed me to the instructions of Template:Infobox person, saying Omit unnecessary or redundant details. New York City, U.S.
Yet, this omits the useful detail that it was in Manhattan as opposed to the other five boroughs. Also,
MOS:OVERLINK, which is policy, says don't link NYC because it's a common term. Too common to list without the borough, IMO. –
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For geographic places specified with the name of the larger territorial unit following a comma, generally do not link the larger unit. For example, avoid Buffalo, New York, United States or Sydney, New South Wales, Australia; instead use Buffalo, New York, United States or Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 14:26, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Looks like "New York City, U.S." is where we are at (at least there is no consensus to change it). Actually we should be at " New York City, New York, U.S." (one previous edit) but I don't see anyone there. Please note: MOS:OVERLINK doesn't extend to infoboxes (see MOS:REPEATLINK, next section). " New York City, U.S." falls under "helpful for readers" and " New York City" is going to be more commonly known for the same general readers than " Manhattan". Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 18:11, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
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164.116.126.161 ( talk) 22:11, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
can i edit
There are a lot of schools I know of that are named after N.Tesla in Serbia. I would guess that there must be a number of schools like this in Croatia as well as other former Yugoslav republics, since N.T. was one of our (yugo?) greatest scientists. Should we list all of these? Also, Belgrade international airport is named after Nikola Tesla — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.117.194.66 ( talk) 12:32, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
This was a fantastic article that pays a tribute to a legend. I very much enjoyed reading it. I made a few improvements to text and layout. For the most part I do not see what more can be done to improve it.
ICE77 ( talk) 23:24, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
@ Vipz: The article itself states (and is sourced): "Tesla was a lifelong bachelor, who had once explained that his chastity was very helpful to his scientific abilities." The BBC says he was celibate. [14] So Category:Reputed virgins is appropriate. Clarityfiend ( talk) 09:01, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
I removed this section to talk because it seems to be very WP:OFFTOPIC (and its a little plagiarized). Wikipedia biographies just don't seem to go into detail much beyond parents so my first though was that this should be boiled down but (once you get rid of the aunts and uncles) it gets into WP:PROPORTION problems re: what are we trying to say and is it verifiable? eg. "Tesla came from a military family" or "had a military background"? ... well no, Tesla's father was non-military, maybe even an objector. Even though this may be verifiable and impartial, it seems disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic and I can really see no reason for a detailed description in a biography that has nothing to do with the subjects notability. Anyway, kicked it here to talk for discussion. Fountains of Bryn Mawr ( talk) 22:31, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
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There was even a "war of currents" propaganda campaign going on with Edison Electric trying to claim their direct current system was better and safer
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There was even a "war of currents" propaganda campaign going on with Edison Electric claiming their direct current system was better and safer Rundleson Gubberts ( talk) 20:44, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
While on the stamp in his baptism document it states Serbian Orthodox Church.. to which clergy his father belonged.. could that please be corrected.. as Eastern Orthodox is pretty generic 173.66.204.212 ( talk) 04:41, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
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Nikola Tesla did not contribute to AC he is the founder of AC get it right!
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“Personal life and character” section, “Relationships” subsection, paragraph 3:
Change “Tesla later wrote an article titled ‘Man's Greatest Achievenment’” to “Tesla later wrote an article titled ‘Man's Greatest Achievement’”
TLDR: “Achievement” is spelled wrong in the published version copied above. 100.19.74.193 ( talk) 21:16, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
According to the references in the section Nikola_Tesla#On_experimental_and_theoretical_physics, and according to current definitions of science and pseudoscience, this person should be judged as a pseudoscientific physicists.
This is also related to page Theoretical_physics#Examples_2. 王韋中 ( talk) 08:22, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Both are listed as his intentions, but to my knowledge, Tesla only proposed a teleforce. 2604:F880:0:A2:BC32:70D1:9324:6AFB ( talk) 21:52, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
He then gaining practical experience in the early 1880s
gained not gaining
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Nikola Tesla was expelled from college, because his ideas were not supported by the professors of the college. 2406:B400:72:8045:284B:449A:57E7:1A92 ( talk) 02:58, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
We're up to 3 notices essentially about the same subject. As the requests despite them have continued, their extra volume has probably been ineffective. Whoever is going to heed these warnings doesn't need it to be repeated. Whoever is not, will not care for the repetition either. Does anyone mind if we merge these into a single notice? -- Joy ( talk) 12:27, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Section on Colorado Springs mentions "an arrangement for the El Paso Power Company...". The link to the El Paso Power Company links to the El Paso, Texas, Electric Company. I strongly suspect that the El Paso being referred to in the article is El Paso county, Colorado, which contains Colorado Springs, and so the El Paso Power Company is not the electric company in Texas. So perhaps https://elpaso-electric.com/ is the correct link? Sorry, I don't know how to edit Wikipedia, but I hope someone who does can check this out. Thanks. 2600:1700:A630:4630:81D3:BB17:F315:18E8 ( talk) 04:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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In the "Early Years" section of the Wikipedia article on Nikola Tesla, the following is stated: "He had three sisters, Milka, Angelina, and Marica, and an older brother named Dane, who was killed in a horse riding accident when Tesla was aged five." But the source that is quoted (#22: Carlson 2013, p. 21.) clearly states that Tesla's brother Dane died when he was seven.
Although we only have the year (1863) of Dane's death, if you do the math from Tesla's own words, he was certainly six or seven when Dane died. In Tesla's autobiography ( http://www.tfcbooks.com/e-books/my_inventions.pdf), published at age 63 (as stated at the top of the PDF linked above), he states "I witnest the tragic scene and altho fifty-six years have elapsed since, my visual impression of it has lost none of its force." Subtracting 56 from 63 gives us 7, the age that your source, W. Bernard Carlson states. Even if we loosely interpret his recollection and add a few months for estimation, the youngest Tesla could have been when Dane died, per Tesla's words, is 6.
Also, Dane's grave states that he died in 1863, when Tesla was 6 in the first part of the year and turned 7 in July:( https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/timeline/1863-dane-tesla-dies). ( https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/169854249/dane-tesla)
In short please change "He had three sisters, Milka, Angelina, and Marica, and an older brother named Dane, who was killed in a horse riding accident when Tesla was aged five." to "He had three sisters, Milka, Angelina, and Marica, and an older brother named Dane, who was killed in a horse riding accident when Tesla was aged six or seven." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scuzzos ( talk • contribs) 22:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)