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I read where the Mommins are based on Finnish folk tales, but there's no mention of that here - is that false? Also, what was the critic reception for the books, both in their home country and the rest of the world? How and when did they travel from Scandinavian countries? What languages have the books been translated into? Spill all the background beans! Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 02:12, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
I would just like to say that Moomins are NOT in any way related to hippos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.71.137.144 ( talk) 00:26, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
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If someone does not accept my edit, s/he is able to correct it. A removal of a reference is a radical action. Xx236 ( talk) 11:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
It's probably based on Jansson, Tove: Muumit ja suuri tuhotulva, s. 5. WSOY, 1991. Speculations? Xx236 ( talk) 09:54, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
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[new contributor here] The foreword introduced to the book in the 1991 Finnish translation hasn't been quoted completely in the sources linked above. Reprint here and translation here. Jansson writes: "The half-written story was forgotten until 1945. Then a friend pointed out that it could become a children's book; just finish it and illustrate it, perhaps they will want it." By my read it's obvious that she started writing in 1939, influenced by the war, and didn't finish writing or illustrating the story until 1945. I don't think the names of wars from Military history of Finland during World War II are particularly relevant here, other than to say that life during that time was quite bleak indeed. For Moomin's history, the 1941 or 1943 published appearance, and the artwork before then, of the ghastly character from her mind shown here for instance would be interesting, if a reliable publication has linked them to Moomin. This 1943 mention from the Helsinki City Art Museum perhaps? 90.254.176.147 ( talk) 13:14, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/ c 14:08, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
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Should we give the character names in multiple languages? English, Swedish, Finnish? re [4]
I think we have to give all three. This is the English language WP, so English is primary. The books are known as being authored in another language, but the names are translated and the originals are unfamiliar. Swedish was the authoring language for much of the Moomin writing. Finnish is now the language of their native country. Even with the issue of Finnish bilingualism, we can't remove Finnish from this. Andy Dingley ( talk) 12:59, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
I read an unlisted Moomin book 15 minutes ago.
It's in Russian. Translated back into English, the title is Moomin Troll and the Sea Orchestra, the ship in the story. Dated 2020.
The voyagers meet a sea serpent named Edward.
Sophia Jansson provides the introduction.
It was published by Willie Winkie in Moscow.
142.205.202.71 ( talk) 22:47, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
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I read where the Mommins are based on Finnish folk tales, but there's no mention of that here - is that false? Also, what was the critic reception for the books, both in their home country and the rest of the world? How and when did they travel from Scandinavian countries? What languages have the books been translated into? Spill all the background beans! Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 02:12, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
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If someone does not accept my edit, s/he is able to correct it. A removal of a reference is a radical action. Xx236 ( talk) 11:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
It's probably based on Jansson, Tove: Muumit ja suuri tuhotulva, s. 5. WSOY, 1991. Speculations? Xx236 ( talk) 09:54, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Xx236 ( talk) 07:11, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Xx236 ( talk) 10:12, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
[new contributor here] The foreword introduced to the book in the 1991 Finnish translation hasn't been quoted completely in the sources linked above. Reprint here and translation here. Jansson writes: "The half-written story was forgotten until 1945. Then a friend pointed out that it could become a children's book; just finish it and illustrate it, perhaps they will want it." By my read it's obvious that she started writing in 1939, influenced by the war, and didn't finish writing or illustrating the story until 1945. I don't think the names of wars from Military history of Finland during World War II are particularly relevant here, other than to say that life during that time was quite bleak indeed. For Moomin's history, the 1941 or 1943 published appearance, and the artwork before then, of the ghastly character from her mind shown here for instance would be interesting, if a reliable publication has linked them to Moomin. This 1943 mention from the Helsinki City Art Museum perhaps? 90.254.176.147 ( talk) 13:14, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/ c 14:08, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Moomin →
Moomins – The generic plural seems much more appropriate here (similar to biological taxa), as can be seen already from the introductory sentence. The singular really doesn't make any sense here. Cf. e. g.
The Smurfs,
Peanuts,
Rugrats,
Gummi Bears,
Gremlins,
Berenstain Bears,
The Wild Thornberrys,
Tweenies,
Teletubbies,
Ninja Turtles,
Dinosaurs,
Ghostbusters etc. etc.
Tuchiel (
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Should we give the character names in multiple languages? English, Swedish, Finnish? re [4]
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I read an unlisted Moomin book 15 minutes ago.
It's in Russian. Translated back into English, the title is Moomin Troll and the Sea Orchestra, the ship in the story. Dated 2020.
The voyagers meet a sea serpent named Edward.
Sophia Jansson provides the introduction.
It was published by Willie Winkie in Moscow.
142.205.202.71 ( talk) 22:47, 6 December 2023 (UTC)