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What does it take to get an article up here on the main page? Does it have to be FA quality or a DYK article or can it be some article of B class quality aswell? Oh, and I also wonder: does anyone ever vandalise the main page? Because it protected... J.B. ( talk) 10:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
That answers my first two questions, thanks for that. What about vandalism? Are there still admins vandalising the main page? Has it happened in the past (just curiousity)? J.B. ( talk) 11:19, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Pretty strange though... how one would do all his best to become admin and then does something like that. I fail to understand his motives... J.B. ( talk) 11:32, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
US election coverage has been moved to /Archive 129. ff m 00:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
His name should be spelled as "Barack Obama", not "Barrack Obama". Thanks, ♪
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Never mind, someone fixed it. Thanks. ♪ Tempo Di Valse♪ 04:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Main page edited? It has changes but, no visible change in the history.-- Jakezing ( talk) 04:17, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Ah, any chance in switching the order of In the News from leading off with "an airplane crashes" to instead leading off with the Barack Obama story. His photo is the only one on the In the News Main Page section and it seems a bigger story. Thanks. -- Suntag ☼ 04:30, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Does the donate ad need to be so big? It hasn't been in the past, and, honestly, it looks unprofessional being so big and in-your-face. Sure, you can make it smaller, but for the casual user, this massive ad, bigger even than banner ads on other web sites, is the first thing he's going to see. zafiroblue05 | Talk 02:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Ugly, ugly, ugly! It's even huger and uglier than most web page banner ads. --
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Note: Logged in users can hide the banner by going to Special:Preferences → Gadgets. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 05:35, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm logging in for the first time in a while to comment on how intrusive this banner is. Maybe that was the point. But I agree with pretty much all the comments above. TOO BIIIG!. QmunkE ( talk) 07:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Why does the ad say "now it [Wikipedia] needs you"? Along with the ad's prominence, it makes it look like there's a sudden financial crisis. If so, it should have a link to a "more info" page with an explanation for the urgency. If not, it's crying wolf and should be reduced/deleted. 24.62.224.57 ( talk) 12:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Just curious. How comes the picture for today's article has changed, as shown in the title? Simply south ( talk) 11:22, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Where can I find a list of all donations? There used to be some information at http://donate.wikimedia.org/en/node/22 131.111.216.71 ( talk) 15:37, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
My annoyance with the "Foundation" and their annoying donate flag... it cuts into minor wikipedia projects in ENGLISH. Very culturally imperialistic. (The major languages have localized versions luckly though.) Someone please tell them to take away their imperialistic tendencies and wake up and realize the true nature of Wikipedia ? Cheers, Nesnad ( talk) 18:29, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Why does the main page not place the cursor automatically in the search bar? The central page does this as soon as you open the page: is there any reason why the main page shouldn't do this too? Sillyfolkboy ( talk) 23:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Can't see anyone else noting this, but the donations drive notice is extremely large and, no, it's not hidable. Wikimedia just guaranteed that I'm not going to donate to them now, and I'm a long time contributor. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 08:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Agreed too. It looks hideous and almost trying to force people to contribute. I'm not impressed by the way it has been done this time. There is a village pump discussion about it and here Count Blofeld 12:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
What is the criteria for bolded words? Right now there are 8 names total in the various headlines combined, but only 4 of them are bolded. Also, certain events are bolded and some aren't ("2008 presidential elections" is in bold but "2008 Formula One Drivers' Championship" is not). Just wondering if it's random or what. NIRVANA2764 ( talk) 19:50, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
I just posted this and an edit conflict was automatically resolved. However, since I share the view of the preceding editor that we need to be open minded about possible solutions, it may be more appropriate to move the discussion here. Geometry guy 20:00, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Why wasn't the NZ election featured? I remember: "We're not bias, what makes you think we won't do this for other elections?" Ya, well why don't you make good on your word? Sir Stig ( talk) 17:27, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
The correct word is "biased" not "bias". Argh! 66.231.141.34 ( talk) 18:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
John Key and Helen Clark are not featured articles, while John McCain and Barack Obama are both featured articles. If the New Zealand candidate articles were brought to featured status, then they would be eligible to be featured on the main page. -- Aude ( talk) 18:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I actually find the sign a little distracting, I'm sorry to say, but it's true. I don't find it hideable, contrary to what is said above. A great deal of it remains after one clicks the "hide" option, and tyhe red button catches your eye much more than the article you're trying to read -- Maurice45 ( talk) 14:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
HI, can someone please tell me how to get rid of the big thermometer with the donations at the top of my welcome page? It is an eye sore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.242.246 ( talk) 22:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Is it possible to move the small picture for In the News to beside the relevant news snippet? When it's at the top, I would instinctively assume it to be related to the first news snippet. This can be perplexing when you get a picture of John Kelley smiling next to news of deaths on a Russian submarine. 195.243.90.252 ( talk) 09:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
This is a request for someone more knowledgeable them myself to post in depth information on hyper-consumption. I'm astonished that this is not on Wikipedia. It's a large part of the American culture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keianc ( talk • contribs) 21:16, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
what is the point of wikipedia beoing 'a non-profit project' if it ends up containing ads bigger and moer intrusive then for-profit websites like google or yahoo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.139.76.64 ( talk) 08:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
When I would want to get an article on the main page, how do I do that? I mean, an article that is not new (DYK) or FA-class, namely Pier Gerlofs Donia? How could I get that article on the main page? J.B. ( talk) 14:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Can I get the following image featured on the main page? J.B. ( talk) 14:56, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh boy. Another American war machine as the featured image. El Genie ( talk) 02:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
who's responsible for today's picture? there was a moment today in which the picture of the day was not this one but another, showing a man with a bottle sticking out of his ass. how can this happen in a protected page?? i suggest the bad taste joker be banned from wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.104.37.15 ( talk) 09:49, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I'd be curious how this happened as well, and it's been a real pain to get all the thumbnails purged from caches (despite going around trying action=purge on every possibly relevant page... think most/all are gone now about 20 mins later?). Aren't images on the main page automatically cascade-protected? -- Delirium ( talk) 10:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
How do you write about a new topic, cause i want to write a biography about people? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.148.180 ( talk • contribs) 16:57, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
why is some british guy there on veterans day? shouldn't it be something veterans day related? gah 98.15.216.208 ( talk) 15:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Veterans day is ONLY in US...pretty much entire commonwealth has remembrance day hence a british soldier (seeing at it marks the end of world war 1). I have seen a lot of US related articles that get posted on their related day and yes ppl do complain about US-Bias but it always resorts to fact that wiki will also feature other country's article if one is available. I was actually happy for the fact that finally something other that US gets posted and then i see this conversation. Seriously you guys really make wikipedia look like USpedia sometimes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashishg55 ( talk • contribs) 23:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Why does everybody constantly complain about the United States? It's very irritating. I remember people complaining about having 9/11 on as the featured article 76.77.225.169 ( talk) 03:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a typo on this page. "52-storey" should be "52-story". I would help, but I am only a regular user (and a real noob too) so I can't do anything to help. Jonathan321 ( talk) 16:23, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Given the situation of the donations not reaching the goal of 6 million dollars in the usual period of time, do you think it's fair to have adds in the main page and the bottom of article pages? Comments are welcome. └ Nitro4ce┘┌ t┐ 18:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Where do you need that money for? What are you going to do with the money you'll receive? Does wikipedia have people in payed service then, and if so, how much and how to become one? J.B. ( talk) 11:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
In all honesty, I feel that that one donation banner is good. However, the content of that donation banner might have to change. I liked last year's banner very much and would have donated if I could. Marlith (Talk) 04:17, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
I would suggest there is nothing wrong with the advertising type. The reason the goal is not being reached is pretty simple - the global economic crisis. Last time we had a fundraiser times were good so the money was raised easily. Today that is not the case. 58.178.57.161 ( talk) 12:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the triforce. It's still PD and ineligible for copyright? Why swap or remove it so many times when it is apropos? Marlith (Talk) 05:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Why are there a set of yellow triangles beside today's FA? The image is not mentioned at all in the text, and is not even included in the article itself. Illustrations on the mainpage should illustrate the text, not intrigue the reader. Please can someone remove the image.-- Scott MacDonald ( talk) 14:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Who could not know what "Zelda" is? It is one of the most faboral games next to "Mario". Firio ( talk) 19:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
You should have a TFA on Pier Gerlofs Donia or, maybe later when it passes GA, on Touch the Clouds. Please look into that. J.B. ( talk) 12:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I think, the news article on the Indian Mood Probe is improperly labelled. It currently says "The Moon Impact Probe, released by Indian spacecraft Chandrayaan-1, is successfully crashed into the lunar south pole", whereas the proper way of framing the sentence should be "Successfully landed on the Lunar South Pole" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.240.41.69 ( talk) 06:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, its improperly labelled, good you noticed! Now notice this: I've got me a kewl signature thanks to OllieFury and Bilby! Jouke Bersma Contribs 11:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a Wikipedia version in Interlingua, its main page link is: http://ia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagina_principal Why is Interlingua not in the "Language" box on te left in the english main page? Esperanto is there. It should go between # Hrvatski and # Íslenska. Is there a logic for its exclusion? Could you correct this mistake please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.108.120.162 ( talk) 20:52, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
This may not be the place to report this, but why does it say "Support Meta" in the fundraising banner? Did it somehow get mixed up? Litho derm 01:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
On my computer I can't see the main page at all.
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I thought I'd give a heads-up here to a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Christmas_DYK. DYK has proposed having a Christmas theme on December 25, and relaxing the rules on when creations/expansions of Christmas-related articles took place to allow more articles on this topic to qualify. This is similar to the recent Halloween theme and an April Fool's theme earlier this year. Other users have suggested that this is biased, as Hannukah, Kwanzaa, and the Islamic New Year all fall during the week of December 25 (Hannukah actually overlaps), but articles about those topics would be excluded from DYK inclusion on the 25th or would not be subject to the same relaxed rules. More voices would be welcome at the discussion to determine a consensus. Karanacs ( talk) 18:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
International my ass! If you want to do it international, also include a Sinterklaas theme (there are more dutch people then jews on this earth so sinterklaas would be more suitable then Hanukah would). J.B. ( talk) 12:01, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Where could I suggust an article for TFA? "Under the Bridge" was an article I came across today and it looked pretty nice. It hasn't been a TFA as of now so maybe it could be used in the near future. Just a suggustion if someone is ever at a loss. AMM The Great ( talk) 02:50, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I thought that deaths ( Ibrahim Nasir) were not supposed to be featured in ITN unless the person was a current office holder or the death had some other widespread impact. Has this policy changed? Ellis 01:14, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
How do I hide the "Featured Article Today" section? I just don't want to look at it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.166.91 ( talk) 20:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't want to sound like a whinger, nor am I complaining or saying anything is wrong about this. I am merely pointing out that there are three items concerning Albania in to-day's (11.28) ITN. Thank you for your attention. 70.16.16.109 ( talk) 01:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Begging y'all's pardon. I meant OTD. 70.16.16.109 ( talk) 15:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
This is a minor issue, but the featured article about Harvey Milk, while interesting, is the subject of a film to be released shortly. Unfortunately, after reading the abridged version on the front page I now know what happens in the film. Stupid, I know, but I'd rather not know the ending to films I'm interested in seeing before they come out. In future, perhaps you could wait until after film releases before providing more information. I'm aware that Milk is an established name, but he is not known in England. 78.86.151.128 ([[User
Nobody forced you to read the article. At least, I hope not. Grand master ka 02:19, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
For what it's worth. let me suggest that the screenwriter and director probably intended the film to be seen by folks broadly familiar with Milk's life, and that the film's characterizations probably cannot be fully appreciated if you don't know the history.-- Pharos ( talk) 17:33, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Polling to figure out who is using what monitor resolution; this way we can factor that into future redesign attempts, as we know stuff shows up differently depending on aspect ratio. Poll is here. Also, we're trying to reach mostly readers; vote on whether or not you'd be ok with using MediaWiki:Sitenotice to notify people of the poll's existence. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :D 01:29, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
The In the News section describes these attacks as "Terror attacks" - which they obviously are- but doesn't that contravene WP:WTA? NoCal100 ( talk) 01:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Concerning the recent terrorist attacks in Mombei, the term "at least (#) killed" was used. The problem is, that a number (190+) seems to to have been settled upon that was at the higher end of the estimated killed. The phrase "at least" should be the SMALLEST number agreed upon (the actual body count was around 80+ during most of this time), not the largest. Current number of those killed is at around 180. If an airplane carrying 200 people goes missing and you find 4 bodies floating in the ocean, the death toll is "at least 4", NOT "at least 200" until you can confirm the plane's wreakage or more bodies. CFLeon ( talk) 21:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
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"A bombing in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 17 people and injures at least 47." That should be changed to "kills 29" and "injures over 100" asap. That's what our article says at least. Death tolls have a way of rising. . . -- S.dedalus ( talk) 19:49, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Telugu (te) Wikipedia has 40,000 articles, but it has not been listed on the homepage. Can one of the admins add it? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.95.161 ( talk) 23:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
How long is the donation bar going to stay up? I've been refreshing for a few minutes and no one has donated, I think Wikimedia has to bite the bullet here and realize that everyone who wanted to donate has donated, and that there isn't really a way they're going to get to 6 million dollars without some sort of corporate sponsorship before next years donations are needed. Just a thought, 125.239.54.243 ( talk) 10:33, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Get an account and in your preferences you can remove it. Count Blofeld 10:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't see the point of these instructions. I mean creating an account or even logging in is a much bigger pain in the neck than clicking collapse or simply SCROLLING DOWN for God's sake.
One more thing: If the U.S. government can donate 700 billion $ to banks and car companies, surely they can contribute 3 million $ to keep a WORLD OF KNOWLEDGE up and running. Someone should tell them that!!!!!!! 59.96.138.42 ( talk) 12:21, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Well if you can't be bothered to join the community and log in which takes just seconds then don;t expect to have privelages Count Blofeld 12:23, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Funny. I'm an admin in reality. I just have a policy of not logging in when it isn't needed. Like now! Coz I'm not supposed to be writing this here as a responsible admin. Anyway the point is, being able to make the "Donate Now" box disappear is NOT a privilege!!! 59.96.138.42 ( talk) 12:53, 6 December 2008 (UTC) (anonymous)
You certainly have a point about the U.S government. $3 million is like 3 cents to every body else. Count Blofeld 13:12, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't it usually run until the holidays? Besides, it's pretty inconspicuous once you've hit the "Collapse" button. You can do that even as an IP. APL ( talk) 21:24, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
How about we make the main page bulky and terrible-- stripe the links down the center as a floating table, add a flashing News Alert marquee on the bottom in javascript, articles read in the left frame but always a little too wide so you have to scroll from side to side each line, in your right frame you have your "status", "friends", and a small microsoft banner ad in the bottom corner, and, to finish 'er off, crowned top and center we'll place the new Wikipedia globe: an animated gif that tweaks a little each time it spins all the way around, forever hanging there in its infinite loop-- so that we'll be all jazzed when the after a month when they bring the old Wikipedia back. Any takers? - Bordello ( talk) 10:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Major UK ISPs reduced to using 2 IP addresses, which surely deserves mention on the main page. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 01:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
What's going on here? Are we delusional? The Wikipedia block is in the main news? Guys, get out of your wikiworld and get back to real-life! --
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I remember a past posting on this page that stated that birthdays were not placed on the main page, any reason why there is now a birthday? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.45.34 ( talk) 14:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
It is well known that Wikipedia has a systemic bias due to the majority of editors belonging to certain particular identities. There are some attempts to minimize this. At least main page should be devoid of such bias. Featured articles of Video Games is one such thing which keeps coming back on main page. Ahirwav ( talk) 05:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Second time this month this has been a selected article, are they randomly selected or is it manual. Lrodilg ( talk) 00:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
There is a picture in your main page that violates human rights [3]. It is a cropped copy of a picture [4] that has been replaced in commons. I'm not aware if there is another copy. Please replace it.-- Dimorsitanos ( talk) 19:12, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm informing you on the matter with a discussion that took place in the original source of the uploading, in Commons at Please_delete_older_pic_-_human_rights-- Dimorsitanos ( talk) 20:04, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
It seems that the original complaint (which has now popped up lots of places) is that because the guys who covered most of their faces in public didn't cover all of their faces in public, this might violate German personality rights laws (yes, German !?). So far as enwiki goes, that means nothing - there are no restrictions on public photography that apply here. I also don't think anybody's usefully identifiable in the quality image regardless, so there's no real ethical issue in my opinion. Given that this is a useful free image of an actual event that's on the Main Page, it ought to stay. — Gavia immer ( talk) 20:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Notice that I never talked about personality rights or german law. I think I was clear at the original place the file was uploaded in Commons.-- Dimorsitanos ( talk) 20:41, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
It's strange but although resolution is low, when i click on the image it opens in full resolution. I don't know if it is my computer or your system. Also, in commons, an original file of the uncropped image is kept at the bottom. I asked for the deletion of the history files that could be retrieved by someone too. Keeping these files may considered an act of filing itself. (in US law too)-- Dimorsitanos ( talk) 21:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Well anyways the action captured doesn't qualify as riot. Some kids are standing right outside Komitini university campus. Presumably they are on protest or something. The police is standing by, and has just thrown a tear gas canister at them (visible is the smoke and also their irritated expression). Three of them obviously decided they have the right to stand on their grounds, one of them that he has the right to throw back o rock, while the girl at the back is kind of thinking about it.-- Vanakaris ( talk) 22:32, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I can't see any reason presented as to why that image should be removed. The only thing presented is a vague suggestion that there might be some possible legal action in Greece by persons unidentified under some unspecified law. If there's some particular legal or moral reason why the pic shouldn't be used, please state it (you're not the only one who feels like they're talking to Martians). Better yet, nominate the picture for deletion and cogently explain your reasons there. And bear in mind WP:LEGAL, including WP:NPLT. Modest Genius talk 22:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Dimorsitanos, the image you have a problem with is Commons:File:Dec2008-riot-komotini-2.jpg. Please post your complaints at WCommons, not here. That image is not on our MainPage. The image on MainPage is File:Dec2008-riot-komotini-2 M-cropped - ITN.jpg, a temporary thumbnail on ITN. Please clearly explain what human rights have been violated in this image. I don't see any. I can't even see those faces that clearly. -- PFHLai ( talk) 23:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks PFHLai. I brought the subject here because there was a cropped picture of the same file in the main page of the english wikipedia. But since the file was modified, there isn't much to talk about in here. Notice though that I didn't ask for the file to be reduced in size but just having the faces blurred in order for the picture not to lose its encyclopeadic value.
As for 128.... you can't assume good faith and accuse someone of trolling at the same time, so I turn the accusations back. I specified that a professional lawyer may be hired in order to offer legal advise on how to justify in legal words what I have in mind as a moral firing of negative events in an eruptive atmosphear in Greece, after rumours circulating that there may be cases of secret filing of educators that take part in protests, in order for them to face the consequencies. I did not state that I would hire the lawyer to take legal actions against wikipedia or spesific users. I made that statement because you warned me that I have to be prepared to justify an accusation of human rights violation and I responded that I might hire a professional If called to do so. So instead of misinterpretating my words, you could focus on more productive things. Just because US citizens may be safe from getting charged with accusations from a law that applies in Germany of Greece, doesn't mean they should not consider the moral duty of thinking of the harm that may be caused to another person or organization in another country.
As for Modest, yes this is what that's all about... a vague suggestion before turning irrevocably into a real problem for the people taking part in the protests and making things more eruptive right now in Greece. I do not think that the file should be deleted. I just said that the people indicated should be protected.-- Dimorsitanos ( talk) 23:37, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
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What does it take to get an article up here on the main page? Does it have to be FA quality or a DYK article or can it be some article of B class quality aswell? Oh, and I also wonder: does anyone ever vandalise the main page? Because it protected... J.B. ( talk) 10:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
That answers my first two questions, thanks for that. What about vandalism? Are there still admins vandalising the main page? Has it happened in the past (just curiousity)? J.B. ( talk) 11:19, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Pretty strange though... how one would do all his best to become admin and then does something like that. I fail to understand his motives... J.B. ( talk) 11:32, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
US election coverage has been moved to /Archive 129. ff m 00:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
His name should be spelled as "Barack Obama", not "Barrack Obama". Thanks, ♪
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Never mind, someone fixed it. Thanks. ♪ Tempo Di Valse♪ 04:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Main page edited? It has changes but, no visible change in the history.-- Jakezing ( talk) 04:17, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Ah, any chance in switching the order of In the News from leading off with "an airplane crashes" to instead leading off with the Barack Obama story. His photo is the only one on the In the News Main Page section and it seems a bigger story. Thanks. -- Suntag ☼ 04:30, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Does the donate ad need to be so big? It hasn't been in the past, and, honestly, it looks unprofessional being so big and in-your-face. Sure, you can make it smaller, but for the casual user, this massive ad, bigger even than banner ads on other web sites, is the first thing he's going to see. zafiroblue05 | Talk 02:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Ugly, ugly, ugly! It's even huger and uglier than most web page banner ads. --
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Note: Logged in users can hide the banner by going to Special:Preferences → Gadgets. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 05:35, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm logging in for the first time in a while to comment on how intrusive this banner is. Maybe that was the point. But I agree with pretty much all the comments above. TOO BIIIG!. QmunkE ( talk) 07:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Why does the ad say "now it [Wikipedia] needs you"? Along with the ad's prominence, it makes it look like there's a sudden financial crisis. If so, it should have a link to a "more info" page with an explanation for the urgency. If not, it's crying wolf and should be reduced/deleted. 24.62.224.57 ( talk) 12:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Just curious. How comes the picture for today's article has changed, as shown in the title? Simply south ( talk) 11:22, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Where can I find a list of all donations? There used to be some information at http://donate.wikimedia.org/en/node/22 131.111.216.71 ( talk) 15:37, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
My annoyance with the "Foundation" and their annoying donate flag... it cuts into minor wikipedia projects in ENGLISH. Very culturally imperialistic. (The major languages have localized versions luckly though.) Someone please tell them to take away their imperialistic tendencies and wake up and realize the true nature of Wikipedia ? Cheers, Nesnad ( talk) 18:29, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Why does the main page not place the cursor automatically in the search bar? The central page does this as soon as you open the page: is there any reason why the main page shouldn't do this too? Sillyfolkboy ( talk) 23:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Can't see anyone else noting this, but the donations drive notice is extremely large and, no, it's not hidable. Wikimedia just guaranteed that I'm not going to donate to them now, and I'm a long time contributor. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 08:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Agreed too. It looks hideous and almost trying to force people to contribute. I'm not impressed by the way it has been done this time. There is a village pump discussion about it and here Count Blofeld 12:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
What is the criteria for bolded words? Right now there are 8 names total in the various headlines combined, but only 4 of them are bolded. Also, certain events are bolded and some aren't ("2008 presidential elections" is in bold but "2008 Formula One Drivers' Championship" is not). Just wondering if it's random or what. NIRVANA2764 ( talk) 19:50, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
I just posted this and an edit conflict was automatically resolved. However, since I share the view of the preceding editor that we need to be open minded about possible solutions, it may be more appropriate to move the discussion here. Geometry guy 20:00, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Why wasn't the NZ election featured? I remember: "We're not bias, what makes you think we won't do this for other elections?" Ya, well why don't you make good on your word? Sir Stig ( talk) 17:27, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
The correct word is "biased" not "bias". Argh! 66.231.141.34 ( talk) 18:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
John Key and Helen Clark are not featured articles, while John McCain and Barack Obama are both featured articles. If the New Zealand candidate articles were brought to featured status, then they would be eligible to be featured on the main page. -- Aude ( talk) 18:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I actually find the sign a little distracting, I'm sorry to say, but it's true. I don't find it hideable, contrary to what is said above. A great deal of it remains after one clicks the "hide" option, and tyhe red button catches your eye much more than the article you're trying to read -- Maurice45 ( talk) 14:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
HI, can someone please tell me how to get rid of the big thermometer with the donations at the top of my welcome page? It is an eye sore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.242.246 ( talk) 22:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Is it possible to move the small picture for In the News to beside the relevant news snippet? When it's at the top, I would instinctively assume it to be related to the first news snippet. This can be perplexing when you get a picture of John Kelley smiling next to news of deaths on a Russian submarine. 195.243.90.252 ( talk) 09:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
This is a request for someone more knowledgeable them myself to post in depth information on hyper-consumption. I'm astonished that this is not on Wikipedia. It's a large part of the American culture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keianc ( talk • contribs) 21:16, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
what is the point of wikipedia beoing 'a non-profit project' if it ends up containing ads bigger and moer intrusive then for-profit websites like google or yahoo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.139.76.64 ( talk) 08:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
When I would want to get an article on the main page, how do I do that? I mean, an article that is not new (DYK) or FA-class, namely Pier Gerlofs Donia? How could I get that article on the main page? J.B. ( talk) 14:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Can I get the following image featured on the main page? J.B. ( talk) 14:56, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh boy. Another American war machine as the featured image. El Genie ( talk) 02:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
who's responsible for today's picture? there was a moment today in which the picture of the day was not this one but another, showing a man with a bottle sticking out of his ass. how can this happen in a protected page?? i suggest the bad taste joker be banned from wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.104.37.15 ( talk) 09:49, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I'd be curious how this happened as well, and it's been a real pain to get all the thumbnails purged from caches (despite going around trying action=purge on every possibly relevant page... think most/all are gone now about 20 mins later?). Aren't images on the main page automatically cascade-protected? -- Delirium ( talk) 10:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
How do you write about a new topic, cause i want to write a biography about people? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.148.180 ( talk • contribs) 16:57, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
why is some british guy there on veterans day? shouldn't it be something veterans day related? gah 98.15.216.208 ( talk) 15:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Veterans day is ONLY in US...pretty much entire commonwealth has remembrance day hence a british soldier (seeing at it marks the end of world war 1). I have seen a lot of US related articles that get posted on their related day and yes ppl do complain about US-Bias but it always resorts to fact that wiki will also feature other country's article if one is available. I was actually happy for the fact that finally something other that US gets posted and then i see this conversation. Seriously you guys really make wikipedia look like USpedia sometimes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashishg55 ( talk • contribs) 23:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Why does everybody constantly complain about the United States? It's very irritating. I remember people complaining about having 9/11 on as the featured article 76.77.225.169 ( talk) 03:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a typo on this page. "52-storey" should be "52-story". I would help, but I am only a regular user (and a real noob too) so I can't do anything to help. Jonathan321 ( talk) 16:23, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Given the situation of the donations not reaching the goal of 6 million dollars in the usual period of time, do you think it's fair to have adds in the main page and the bottom of article pages? Comments are welcome. └ Nitro4ce┘┌ t┐ 18:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Where do you need that money for? What are you going to do with the money you'll receive? Does wikipedia have people in payed service then, and if so, how much and how to become one? J.B. ( talk) 11:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
In all honesty, I feel that that one donation banner is good. However, the content of that donation banner might have to change. I liked last year's banner very much and would have donated if I could. Marlith (Talk) 04:17, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
I would suggest there is nothing wrong with the advertising type. The reason the goal is not being reached is pretty simple - the global economic crisis. Last time we had a fundraiser times were good so the money was raised easily. Today that is not the case. 58.178.57.161 ( talk) 12:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the triforce. It's still PD and ineligible for copyright? Why swap or remove it so many times when it is apropos? Marlith (Talk) 05:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Why are there a set of yellow triangles beside today's FA? The image is not mentioned at all in the text, and is not even included in the article itself. Illustrations on the mainpage should illustrate the text, not intrigue the reader. Please can someone remove the image.-- Scott MacDonald ( talk) 14:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Who could not know what "Zelda" is? It is one of the most faboral games next to "Mario". Firio ( talk) 19:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
You should have a TFA on Pier Gerlofs Donia or, maybe later when it passes GA, on Touch the Clouds. Please look into that. J.B. ( talk) 12:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I think, the news article on the Indian Mood Probe is improperly labelled. It currently says "The Moon Impact Probe, released by Indian spacecraft Chandrayaan-1, is successfully crashed into the lunar south pole", whereas the proper way of framing the sentence should be "Successfully landed on the Lunar South Pole" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.240.41.69 ( talk) 06:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, its improperly labelled, good you noticed! Now notice this: I've got me a kewl signature thanks to OllieFury and Bilby! Jouke Bersma Contribs 11:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a Wikipedia version in Interlingua, its main page link is: http://ia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagina_principal Why is Interlingua not in the "Language" box on te left in the english main page? Esperanto is there. It should go between # Hrvatski and # Íslenska. Is there a logic for its exclusion? Could you correct this mistake please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.108.120.162 ( talk) 20:52, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
This may not be the place to report this, but why does it say "Support Meta" in the fundraising banner? Did it somehow get mixed up? Litho derm 01:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
On my computer I can't see the main page at all.
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I thought I'd give a heads-up here to a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Christmas_DYK. DYK has proposed having a Christmas theme on December 25, and relaxing the rules on when creations/expansions of Christmas-related articles took place to allow more articles on this topic to qualify. This is similar to the recent Halloween theme and an April Fool's theme earlier this year. Other users have suggested that this is biased, as Hannukah, Kwanzaa, and the Islamic New Year all fall during the week of December 25 (Hannukah actually overlaps), but articles about those topics would be excluded from DYK inclusion on the 25th or would not be subject to the same relaxed rules. More voices would be welcome at the discussion to determine a consensus. Karanacs ( talk) 18:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
International my ass! If you want to do it international, also include a Sinterklaas theme (there are more dutch people then jews on this earth so sinterklaas would be more suitable then Hanukah would). J.B. ( talk) 12:01, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Where could I suggust an article for TFA? "Under the Bridge" was an article I came across today and it looked pretty nice. It hasn't been a TFA as of now so maybe it could be used in the near future. Just a suggustion if someone is ever at a loss. AMM The Great ( talk) 02:50, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I thought that deaths ( Ibrahim Nasir) were not supposed to be featured in ITN unless the person was a current office holder or the death had some other widespread impact. Has this policy changed? Ellis 01:14, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
How do I hide the "Featured Article Today" section? I just don't want to look at it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.166.91 ( talk) 20:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't want to sound like a whinger, nor am I complaining or saying anything is wrong about this. I am merely pointing out that there are three items concerning Albania in to-day's (11.28) ITN. Thank you for your attention. 70.16.16.109 ( talk) 01:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Begging y'all's pardon. I meant OTD. 70.16.16.109 ( talk) 15:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
This is a minor issue, but the featured article about Harvey Milk, while interesting, is the subject of a film to be released shortly. Unfortunately, after reading the abridged version on the front page I now know what happens in the film. Stupid, I know, but I'd rather not know the ending to films I'm interested in seeing before they come out. In future, perhaps you could wait until after film releases before providing more information. I'm aware that Milk is an established name, but he is not known in England. 78.86.151.128 ([[User
Nobody forced you to read the article. At least, I hope not. Grand master ka 02:19, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
For what it's worth. let me suggest that the screenwriter and director probably intended the film to be seen by folks broadly familiar with Milk's life, and that the film's characterizations probably cannot be fully appreciated if you don't know the history.-- Pharos ( talk) 17:33, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Polling to figure out who is using what monitor resolution; this way we can factor that into future redesign attempts, as we know stuff shows up differently depending on aspect ratio. Poll is here. Also, we're trying to reach mostly readers; vote on whether or not you'd be ok with using MediaWiki:Sitenotice to notify people of the poll's existence. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :D 01:29, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
The In the News section describes these attacks as "Terror attacks" - which they obviously are- but doesn't that contravene WP:WTA? NoCal100 ( talk) 01:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Concerning the recent terrorist attacks in Mombei, the term "at least (#) killed" was used. The problem is, that a number (190+) seems to to have been settled upon that was at the higher end of the estimated killed. The phrase "at least" should be the SMALLEST number agreed upon (the actual body count was around 80+ during most of this time), not the largest. Current number of those killed is at around 180. If an airplane carrying 200 people goes missing and you find 4 bodies floating in the ocean, the death toll is "at least 4", NOT "at least 200" until you can confirm the plane's wreakage or more bodies. CFLeon ( talk) 21:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
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"A bombing in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 17 people and injures at least 47." That should be changed to "kills 29" and "injures over 100" asap. That's what our article says at least. Death tolls have a way of rising. . . -- S.dedalus ( talk) 19:49, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Telugu (te) Wikipedia has 40,000 articles, but it has not been listed on the homepage. Can one of the admins add it? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.95.161 ( talk) 23:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
How long is the donation bar going to stay up? I've been refreshing for a few minutes and no one has donated, I think Wikimedia has to bite the bullet here and realize that everyone who wanted to donate has donated, and that there isn't really a way they're going to get to 6 million dollars without some sort of corporate sponsorship before next years donations are needed. Just a thought, 125.239.54.243 ( talk) 10:33, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Get an account and in your preferences you can remove it. Count Blofeld 10:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't see the point of these instructions. I mean creating an account or even logging in is a much bigger pain in the neck than clicking collapse or simply SCROLLING DOWN for God's sake.
One more thing: If the U.S. government can donate 700 billion $ to banks and car companies, surely they can contribute 3 million $ to keep a WORLD OF KNOWLEDGE up and running. Someone should tell them that!!!!!!! 59.96.138.42 ( talk) 12:21, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Well if you can't be bothered to join the community and log in which takes just seconds then don;t expect to have privelages Count Blofeld 12:23, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Funny. I'm an admin in reality. I just have a policy of not logging in when it isn't needed. Like now! Coz I'm not supposed to be writing this here as a responsible admin. Anyway the point is, being able to make the "Donate Now" box disappear is NOT a privilege!!! 59.96.138.42 ( talk) 12:53, 6 December 2008 (UTC) (anonymous)
You certainly have a point about the U.S government. $3 million is like 3 cents to every body else. Count Blofeld 13:12, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't it usually run until the holidays? Besides, it's pretty inconspicuous once you've hit the "Collapse" button. You can do that even as an IP. APL ( talk) 21:24, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
How about we make the main page bulky and terrible-- stripe the links down the center as a floating table, add a flashing News Alert marquee on the bottom in javascript, articles read in the left frame but always a little too wide so you have to scroll from side to side each line, in your right frame you have your "status", "friends", and a small microsoft banner ad in the bottom corner, and, to finish 'er off, crowned top and center we'll place the new Wikipedia globe: an animated gif that tweaks a little each time it spins all the way around, forever hanging there in its infinite loop-- so that we'll be all jazzed when the after a month when they bring the old Wikipedia back. Any takers? - Bordello ( talk) 10:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Major UK ISPs reduced to using 2 IP addresses, which surely deserves mention on the main page. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 01:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
What's going on here? Are we delusional? The Wikipedia block is in the main news? Guys, get out of your wikiworld and get back to real-life! --
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I remember a past posting on this page that stated that birthdays were not placed on the main page, any reason why there is now a birthday? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.45.34 ( talk) 14:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
It is well known that Wikipedia has a systemic bias due to the majority of editors belonging to certain particular identities. There are some attempts to minimize this. At least main page should be devoid of such bias. Featured articles of Video Games is one such thing which keeps coming back on main page. Ahirwav ( talk) 05:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Second time this month this has been a selected article, are they randomly selected or is it manual. Lrodilg ( talk) 00:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
There is a picture in your main page that violates human rights [3]. It is a cropped copy of a picture [4] that has been replaced in commons. I'm not aware if there is another copy. Please replace it.-- Dimorsitanos ( talk) 19:12, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm informing you on the matter with a discussion that took place in the original source of the uploading, in Commons at Please_delete_older_pic_-_human_rights-- Dimorsitanos ( talk) 20:04, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
It seems that the original complaint (which has now popped up lots of places) is that because the guys who covered most of their faces in public didn't cover all of their faces in public, this might violate German personality rights laws (yes, German !?). So far as enwiki goes, that means nothing - there are no restrictions on public photography that apply here. I also don't think anybody's usefully identifiable in the quality image regardless, so there's no real ethical issue in my opinion. Given that this is a useful free image of an actual event that's on the Main Page, it ought to stay. — Gavia immer ( talk) 20:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Notice that I never talked about personality rights or german law. I think I was clear at the original place the file was uploaded in Commons.-- Dimorsitanos ( talk) 20:41, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
It's strange but although resolution is low, when i click on the image it opens in full resolution. I don't know if it is my computer or your system. Also, in commons, an original file of the uncropped image is kept at the bottom. I asked for the deletion of the history files that could be retrieved by someone too. Keeping these files may considered an act of filing itself. (in US law too)-- Dimorsitanos ( talk) 21:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Well anyways the action captured doesn't qualify as riot. Some kids are standing right outside Komitini university campus. Presumably they are on protest or something. The police is standing by, and has just thrown a tear gas canister at them (visible is the smoke and also their irritated expression). Three of them obviously decided they have the right to stand on their grounds, one of them that he has the right to throw back o rock, while the girl at the back is kind of thinking about it.-- Vanakaris ( talk) 22:32, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I can't see any reason presented as to why that image should be removed. The only thing presented is a vague suggestion that there might be some possible legal action in Greece by persons unidentified under some unspecified law. If there's some particular legal or moral reason why the pic shouldn't be used, please state it (you're not the only one who feels like they're talking to Martians). Better yet, nominate the picture for deletion and cogently explain your reasons there. And bear in mind WP:LEGAL, including WP:NPLT. Modest Genius talk 22:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Dimorsitanos, the image you have a problem with is Commons:File:Dec2008-riot-komotini-2.jpg. Please post your complaints at WCommons, not here. That image is not on our MainPage. The image on MainPage is File:Dec2008-riot-komotini-2 M-cropped - ITN.jpg, a temporary thumbnail on ITN. Please clearly explain what human rights have been violated in this image. I don't see any. I can't even see those faces that clearly. -- PFHLai ( talk) 23:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks PFHLai. I brought the subject here because there was a cropped picture of the same file in the main page of the english wikipedia. But since the file was modified, there isn't much to talk about in here. Notice though that I didn't ask for the file to be reduced in size but just having the faces blurred in order for the picture not to lose its encyclopeadic value.
As for 128.... you can't assume good faith and accuse someone of trolling at the same time, so I turn the accusations back. I specified that a professional lawyer may be hired in order to offer legal advise on how to justify in legal words what I have in mind as a moral firing of negative events in an eruptive atmosphear in Greece, after rumours circulating that there may be cases of secret filing of educators that take part in protests, in order for them to face the consequencies. I did not state that I would hire the lawyer to take legal actions against wikipedia or spesific users. I made that statement because you warned me that I have to be prepared to justify an accusation of human rights violation and I responded that I might hire a professional If called to do so. So instead of misinterpretating my words, you could focus on more productive things. Just because US citizens may be safe from getting charged with accusations from a law that applies in Germany of Greece, doesn't mean they should not consider the moral duty of thinking of the harm that may be caused to another person or organization in another country.
As for Modest, yes this is what that's all about... a vague suggestion before turning irrevocably into a real problem for the people taking part in the protests and making things more eruptive right now in Greece. I do not think that the file should be deleted. I just said that the people indicated should be protected.-- Dimorsitanos ( talk) 23:37, 13 December 2008 (UTC)