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I remember a while back, the phrase associated with Wikipedia was "The Encyclopedia Anyone Can Edit!" Now it says "The Free Encyclopedia." I find this very uninspiring. Can someone please change it back to the way it was? The older phrase better captures the spirit of this encyclopedia. Tr32 ( talk) 02:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
I agree that the phrase "The Encyclopedia Anyone Can Edit" captures what's actually engaging about the wikipedia idea, and that the most engaging topics to contribute to are precisely the "controversial" ones. Sadly, this article by the guardian on a study by the Palo Alto Research Center (Parc) in California, shows that wikipedia's environment has become more and more hostile towards new users, and there is a clan of established users that is discouraging new people to contribute.-- Sum ( talk) 13:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Its the old freedom argument isnt it. Do you allow complete freedom, which will either bring complete perfection or complete disaster, or do you allow a carefully controlled level of freedom that satisfies most people and can be increased or decreased depending on the situation (ie. how governments do it and how Wikipedia does it). It prevents total disaster but also prevents a level of perfection.-- Willski72 ( talk) 13:15, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Freeeeeeeedddddddooooooooommmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!! etc etc-- Willski72 ( talk) 20:16, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
When it comes down to it, anyone can edit any part of Wikipedia. If you have good intentions for a controversial article, it shouldn't bother you to wait a few days to get full privileges. The only people who whine are those who have fairly had their editing abilities revoked for doing something dumb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.160.77 ( talk) 06:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Why wasting time on terminology? There is no absolute freedom is this world. Alonso McLaren ( talk) 07:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
There never has been absolute freedom and there never will be, to have absolute freedom you must be outside of space and time. For example you can raise your left arm leftwards, forwards and backwards (straight out) but you cannot do the same rightwards. This takes up time, in the time it took to do this you could have been doing something else, you cannot get that time back, thus you cannot ever be absolutely free, you are always constrained by something.
I'm quite proud of that second etc and i find it a shame that 04redsox07 cannot agree with me! However i am encouraged in the knowledge that J Milburn has "got my back"!-- Willski72 ( talk) 10:07, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I am pleased to see that we have come to an arrangement and i, for my part, am happy to accept that you do not agree with my second etc but will respect my right to be proud of it. Thank you and adieu.-- Willski72 ( talk) 15:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Why are there so many games that are today's featured article? Or is this a subjective view of me? -- 213.168.121.113 ( talk) 20:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Ah the "young, tech savvy corps". I would say that I am the first part of that however on the second bit I fall down terribly. I can barely understand how to comment nevermind edit the article. All i can do is dream, while reading "War and Peace" and drinking a cup of tea......-- Willski72 ( talk) 09:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
wikipedia is censoring F**kin' 'Ell It's Fred Titmus. the proper name is Fuckin' 'Ell It's Fred Titmus. FUCKIN' ELL IT'S FRED TITMUS. this will not stop the childrens ears. and it is not the proper name. F**kin' 'Ell It's Fred Titmus doesnt even work!! there is no reason to censor the front page just because he is only one halve a man. it offends everyone who isnt a full human. and dont censor this page. also the page has sex in it. and encourages birglurs. and encourage drugs addicts. and cricket players. this is abuse of bischits. so make it FUCKIN. and dont make it FUCKING by acident. FUCKIN. i dont understand. censored 1 time. are you going to keep censoring people and then sayin your not censors. i asked nicely why this is hapning.
Dont be absurd! Such a thing would never happen! Wikipedia has fallen to some serious lows in the past but to even suggest that they would have a featured article on something as disgusting as Gropecunt Lane is just despicable! Some peoples dirty minds need a good washing!!!-- Willski72 ( talk) 09:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Garden you have once again hit the nail on the head, i thought everyone would have realised that by know! (although that would somewhat spoil the fun) One of these days.....-- Willski72 ( talk) 11:07, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Usually after a golfer wins a major it appears in the "In the news" section. Y.E. Yang of South Korea has become the first Asian player in history to win a golf major. I think this is even more notable than usual. 81.153.15.38 ( talk) 20:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I remember a while back that on the main page, where it says "Other areas of Wikipedia", there used to be em dashes; now it's en dashes. How was it decided to use en dashes instead. — 96.232.52.200 ( talk) 16:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to specify which will be the 3,000,000th article? / regards Bengt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.121.84.241 ( talk) 11:14, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Will there be a banner on the Main Page for the 3 millionth article? -- 70.134.85.248 ( talk) 18:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Let's please not keep it up for too long, seeing how many of those are useless stubs/needing cleanup/POV/lacking references. We'll have cake and fireworks for when we have lots of Featured/Good articles and lists. See WP:Good articles for numbers. Quality not quantity. Reywas92 Talk 23:35, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I cant wait that long for black forest cake!-- Willski72 ( talk) 12:05, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Only around 900 articles to go... -- Tone 19:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi guys, I've been working in hungarien wikipedia for a year and seven months. That will be unbelivable, 3,000,000 articles... I'm very excited about that. Good luck from Hungary. -- Pakos ( talk) 19:52, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Right now, only some 440 articles to go. When WP reached its 2 millionth article, several bots had been ordered to submit hundreds of stubby articles in the very last minute. Still, the winner was just another simple editor of flesh and blood... -- Hapsala ( talk) 22:51, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
When we know, it should be noted what article is #3 million. - Jørgen88 ( talk) 03:13, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
It just reached over 3,000,000 articles. December21st2012Freak ( talk • contribs) 04:06, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Who "determined" it? Can you point us to the discussion? Anyway, here are the candidates for 3 millionth:
Shii (tock) 04:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Wait until it reaches 4,000,000 articles... December21st2012Freak ( talk • contribs) 04:14, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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76.211.107.172, that would not be possible to calculate, as it would be ever-changing. Even since the article was created, many others will have been deleted, redirected, merged and so on, meaning that, already, it is not technically the 3,000,000th article. Our compromise is to list the first article to be listed as the 3,000,000th as our 3,000,000th- even though it is probably only so for a few minutes at most. J Milburn ( talk) 11:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Maybe we should be focusing on even 3000 FA articles instead.... Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:18, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Oh missed the cake! I was looking forward to that too! I've got be quicker at these things!-- Willski72 ( talk) 13:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Oh 3000,0001st!
Simply south (
talk) 21:53, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Too bad my bet didn't make it. Bloody internet-less work. LOL – Howard the Duck 08:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry to rain on the party but article number is nothing to celebrate. We may have three million articles but the quality is shocking on some, majbe a majority, of them. I spend a lot of my time fixing up bad edits, bad categorisation, getting stuff deleted, adding stub articles that should exist, correcting spelling, etc. When are we going to get fully fledged flagged revisions up and running to improve the quality of WP? With flagged revisions the quality will improve dramicially. I think. Am having trouble finding an analysis of the German WP experience with flagged revisions. -- Alan Liefting ( talk) - 05:42, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Proposing this here as it gets substantially more traffic than the Selected Anniversaries talk page. I propose that the OTD entries are phrased in the present tense. Most "on this day in history"-type articles and documentaries I've seen use the present tense when describing events. It seems more natural - if you put yourself in 1930 (for example) and talk about events unfolding in front of you - to use the present tense to describe things as they happen. Also, it greatly reduces verbiage and avoids potentially awkward past tense constructs such as "had had" (amongst others), especially in entries long enough to contain multiple such instances. Thoughts? (Should this go on the Village Pump? Is there a better place for this discussion?) Zunaid 21:03, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
What about the controversy surrounding Caster Semenya, the South African athlete?-- 41.246.105.58 ( talk) 12:35, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Just couldn't help but notice that a preponderance of FA on the main page are biographies. I would hope that Wikipedia have more variety of content for FA on the main page. I'm sure there's a wider variety of FA that would be suitable for the main page. I'm not saying that there isn't other content that is being left out, but I am saying that there just seem to be more biographies than other types of articles. Hires an editor ( talk) 14:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
....still not been moved to Wikipedia:Main_Page? What opposition is there to moving it from the main namespace?---- occono ( talk) 18:36, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
The main reason to not move it is because there are lots of links to it. So 'Main Page' would have to be a redirect anyway, so what is the point? Prodego talk 22:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
One idea has been to eliminate the page title completely from the URL. The logo, etc. would lead to http://en.wikipedia.org/ or http://en.wikiepdia.org/wiki/ and that would be the Main Page. You'd still have to edit the page somewhere obviously, though.... -- MZMcBride ( talk) 22:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm no sure if this has been discussed before or not - apologies if it has been as I couldn't find it in the search.
The Main Page is what many people first look at when they come to Wikipedia, even if that's only passing through whilst searching for a specific article. Looking at the page layout, it strikes me that the main sections - Featured Article, Featured Picture, Did You Know, On This Day and In The News are all about sharing the best content that Wikipedia has created.
It might be a good idea to have a main section which focusses on encouraging people, particularly new editors, to help out with the project - pull as well as push. It could also encourage more experienced editors to branch out into new areas. This might take content from WP:T and that page could be used to nominate front page sections. It could be rotating in a similar way (job of the day??) and might cover things like:
Rather than make the Main Page longer, I suggest one of the existing sections is dropped or combined - have we any way of knowing which sections are most popular? Alternatively, you could just have smaller sections - not sure we need quite such a long Featured Article excerpt or quite so many Did You Know entries, for instance. What do you think? AndrewRT( Talk) 15:32, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Should be on the news section 77.234.159.97 ( talk) 07:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Moved to article talk page Talk:Natalie Clifford Barney/Archives/2015#"author and poet" Nil Einne ( talk) 16:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Am I the only one who keeps thinking the rocket on ITN is a scroll bar the first time I see it? Nil Einne ( talk) 16:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi from the
Basque Country!
This is a message to the administrators of English Wikipedia or for someone who can help me with this issue:
I´m an user and contributor of the
Basque Wikipedia.,
Basque language is one of the oldest in Europe and the world, it has thousands of years old and is one of the few languages that survived the arrival of Indo-Europeans to Europe. Perhaps being one of the oldest nations or countries of the world not even have our own state, but our language is our homeland and pride. It put us on the map and give a reference recognizable to English speakers, the city of
Pamplona (
Iruña in basque language), where they celebrate the internationally famous festival of
San Fermin is in the
Basque Country.
After this brief introduction I would kindly ask you this request:
On July 15, 2009, in the Basque Wikipedia we exceed the figure of 40,000 articles, today (August 26, 2009) we have 42,000 articles, achievement of which we are very proud, because if we compare proportionately the number of speakers of the Basque language (about a million) with other Wikipedia versions of languages spoken in more than one state or nation in the world with millions of speakers is like to be proud.
Because one of the aims of Wikipedia Project in addition to expanding human knowledge worldwide is also to expand the knowledge of all languages of mankind: From the Basque Wikipedia we wanted to make the request to the users and particularly to the Administrators of the English wikipedia would be possible if you put the link to Basque Wikipedia in your English Wikipedia´s language list of everyone in your Main Page ("Languages" section: as is currently the case Galician or Catalan language) and the Wikipedia list of more than 40,000 items that is below your Main Page ("Wikipedia languages" section). Since English is currently the most powerful, influential and widespread in the world (your wikipedia already has 3,000,000 articles), the presence of Basque Wikipedia in your list of the world would be a great help to supervival of our language and their knowledge in the world.
Awaiting your reply.
Greetings from the Basque Wikipedia.
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--
Euskalduna
(tell me) 15:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding
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Thank you, Modest Genius. -- Euskalduna (tell me) 15:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.86.101.120 ( talk)
Just an FYI, that there is a discussion occurring about possible changes to the ITN section of the main page, located here:
Template talk:In the news#Use of Wikinews. Feel free to jump in on the conversations!
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How can it be than under the "on this day" heading Martin Luther King's I have a dream speech is at the bottom of the list ? Now I have nothing to do with the CRM, I'm white, wasn't born when the speech was given and I've never even been to the U.S, but this is one of the greatest human beings ever to have lived the fact this is not at the top of the list is a dirty insult. -- 86.167.42.79 ( talk) 15:43, 28 August 2009 (UTC) RS 24/08/09
A picture of the day that doesn't feature an Australian bird! And actually features something from Africa! Well done! I know, I know, we've discussed this before - a systemic bias, where there is greater content from regions where there is a larger Wikipedia community. But a Southern African feature - whoohoo! I look forward to more in the future, mates. Rfwoolf ( talk) 16:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Just to let people know, a Request for Comment has been made on the content and operation of ITN, located at Template talk:In the news#Questions for discussion. It's also currently the top item on Centralised Discussions. There's some serious discussion going on of a major shakeup of ITN, and I would like to encourage all those with an interest in the Main Page to take a look. Modest Genius talk 17:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Now I stayed up late to watch all the ashes series, but I will grudgingly admit that surely the historic election that is occurring in Japan as we speak is slightly more notable and should be included on the front page news? M0rt ( talk) 22:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
My PC has had an update, and the repairman tinkered with the "Upload Images" and the screen resolution. I have gotten those fixed, but the lettering on Wikipedia is now bright, bold black, instead of regular. How do I fix this? AlbertSM ( talk) 20:26, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Highlight it all, and then push command+B —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.202.121.248 ( talk) 23:07, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
First let me say, no doubt, there are situations where the wikimarkup "pipe" feature is extremely useful. In an article describing someone who never left Kansas, we don't want to have to say he was born in Salina, Kansas, went to school in Manhattan, Kansas, and had a regular sales route that went between Topeka, Kansas and Dodge City, Kansas.
However the feature is much overused. One of my regular cleanup tasks is to change things like [[Oscar Luigi Scalfaro|the then President of the Italian Republic]] to " Oscar Luigi Scalfaro, at the time the President of the Italian Republic". This is much better syntax because it doesn't hide what you're talking about inside the link. It's important always to remember that articles may be printed out, and any information encoded into a wikilink is then missing entirely.
So where do editors get this idea? I'm afraid to a large extent it may be from the Main Page, which is a regular offender. Two egregious examples from today's (2009 Aug 31) Main Page: In did you know, the word topologically is linked to our homeomorphism article, even though what is displayed in the animation is actually a homotopy. And the phrase equal birth rights is linked to LGBT rights in the United Kingdom; a cursory scan of that article does not explain what "equal birth rights" are, exactly. -- Trovatore ( talk) 18:25, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
The [[Imperial Japanese Navy]] '''[[Attack on Pearl Harbor|attacked]]''' [[Pearl Harbor]] in [[Hawaii]]
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Zzyzx11 (
talk) 07:17, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Not sure if this has been proposed before on not, but why not add a section for featured list articles? There is one for Featured Pictures, In the news, Did You know, Featured articles, and On this day. What harm could adding an FL section do?-- Will C 13:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll help out in anyway I can to get one up and running. I'm no admin but I have enough expirence that I could be useful.-- Will C 01:09, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm just curious, is it common that WP uses less than ideal phrasing to intrigue people and get them to read articles? I'm okay with it, I was just curious if it was policy, something WP does every once in a while, or something else entirely. The reason I ask is the spaceship flying turtle currently in DYK. I know "turtle" links to the explanation of what is meant, but I checked the mercury-atlas 8 article first and was amused to find out the reason for it. I'm not criticizing, I'm actually applauding. I thought it was a great way to get me into the article. 04redsox07 ( talk) 15:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I notice a lot of sites are using recommendtions. I think wikipedia could do the same. Example: I spend a couple hours looking at the Metallica wiki page, then an hour looking at the Disturbed wiki page. When I visit Wikipedia the next day, i go to the wikipedia main page and there's a little box that says "Wikipedia Recommends" and it has the Wolfmother, or Rage Against the Machine pages listed there.
Basically I am suggesting some kind of wiki history tracking system that suggests what pages to look at next. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Example974 ( talk • contribs) 22:22, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
"This page is for discussing improvements to the entire Main Page only. This is not a place to ask general questions or submit content." Even if such an article were suitable for Wikipedia (which is unlikely), its creation shouldn't be discussed here. Feel free to visit the talk page at Wikipedia:WikiProject Michael Jackson. Bencherlite Talk 19:58, 2 September 2009 (UTC) |
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I have a suggestion. Make an article especially about the paternity of MJ´s kids. Many folks wanna know it would be an awesome idea to make such a page after the media hype. A wise thing to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.212.215.31 ( talk) 19:21, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
This is not the place to discuss this. If someone wants to write it, they can- I suspect it will be nominated for merging/deletion fairly quickly though. J Milburn ( talk) 19:53, 2 September 2009 (UTC) I cant write the thing cuz i cant create an account becuz ma pc´s broken. I´m using a very old spare pc. Could someone write an article named `parenty of mj´s kids` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.212.215.31 ( talk) 19:57, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
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Is this the most interesting featured article anyone could find? Why don't we put Gropecunt Lane back up there? At least people wouldn't fall asleep at their computer terminals. 74.192.194.29 ( talk) 02:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
What is boring to one person (ie you and me) is of great interest to another, especially those who managed to make it a featured article, you cant have funny ones all the time!-- Willski72 ( talk) 09:56, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
The last two sentences of today's lead are not attributed to sources or expanded upon anywhere in the article. I feel as if a neutral article about an interesting and widely used dye has been hijacked to serve someone's agenda. I feel that the featured article process has let the readers down, because things like that are supposed to be against the style guidelines for all articles, let alone "best of the best" content. I also don't see anywhere near the size, depth, or revision history in this article that I have come to expect from other good Wikipedia articles. Wnt ( talk) 06:35, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Please see and comment here on this proposal. Thanks, Cenarium ( talk) 23:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Not ideal for a Khan article, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ricardo_Montalban_in_Fiesta_trailer.jpg is public domain. I hate to see a pictureless FA. -- Nricardo ( talk) 00:11, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! @ harej 08:06, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Why is the FA picture not showing up? Is this just my computer? 165.91.166.231 ( talk) 18:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
shouldn't The Homebrew Channel be featured tomorrow ? Chickenator ( talk) 03:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
One item in "On this day" Sept 5 violates this policy. Admins please check.-- yousaf465' 03:48, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
if i may say s myself this is a brill site :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.127.113 ( talk) 22:38, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
(groan!)-- Willski72 ( talk) 12:40, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I've heard many names for terrorists in my time but never have i heard one as good as "widdy-wadders". If thats not going to put you off being one i dont know what is!-- Willski72 ( talk) 10:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I noticed this at the time but didn't say anything since no one else did. The issue was calling Black September a terrorist group, not the specific group of people involved terrorists or the attack a terrorist attack. You will note that while the article calls the people terrorists, and the attack a terrorist attack, it calls Black September a militant group as does the Black September article. To use a more modern example the al Qaeda article does not call them a terrorist group although we do call the September 11 attacks a terrorist attacks. WP:Words to avoid does caution against calling things terrorist in the passive voice. While I'm not that familiar with discussions, I presume this is fairly normal practice. It is sometimes clear per WP:NPOV and WP:Undue that it's accurate to call something a terrorist attack. Calling a diverse group a terrorist group however raises many more complications. Nil Einne ( talk) 16:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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I remember a while back, the phrase associated with Wikipedia was "The Encyclopedia Anyone Can Edit!" Now it says "The Free Encyclopedia." I find this very uninspiring. Can someone please change it back to the way it was? The older phrase better captures the spirit of this encyclopedia. Tr32 ( talk) 02:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
I agree that the phrase "The Encyclopedia Anyone Can Edit" captures what's actually engaging about the wikipedia idea, and that the most engaging topics to contribute to are precisely the "controversial" ones. Sadly, this article by the guardian on a study by the Palo Alto Research Center (Parc) in California, shows that wikipedia's environment has become more and more hostile towards new users, and there is a clan of established users that is discouraging new people to contribute.-- Sum ( talk) 13:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Its the old freedom argument isnt it. Do you allow complete freedom, which will either bring complete perfection or complete disaster, or do you allow a carefully controlled level of freedom that satisfies most people and can be increased or decreased depending on the situation (ie. how governments do it and how Wikipedia does it). It prevents total disaster but also prevents a level of perfection.-- Willski72 ( talk) 13:15, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Freeeeeeeedddddddooooooooommmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!! etc etc-- Willski72 ( talk) 20:16, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
When it comes down to it, anyone can edit any part of Wikipedia. If you have good intentions for a controversial article, it shouldn't bother you to wait a few days to get full privileges. The only people who whine are those who have fairly had their editing abilities revoked for doing something dumb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.160.77 ( talk) 06:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Why wasting time on terminology? There is no absolute freedom is this world. Alonso McLaren ( talk) 07:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
There never has been absolute freedom and there never will be, to have absolute freedom you must be outside of space and time. For example you can raise your left arm leftwards, forwards and backwards (straight out) but you cannot do the same rightwards. This takes up time, in the time it took to do this you could have been doing something else, you cannot get that time back, thus you cannot ever be absolutely free, you are always constrained by something.
I'm quite proud of that second etc and i find it a shame that 04redsox07 cannot agree with me! However i am encouraged in the knowledge that J Milburn has "got my back"!-- Willski72 ( talk) 10:07, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I am pleased to see that we have come to an arrangement and i, for my part, am happy to accept that you do not agree with my second etc but will respect my right to be proud of it. Thank you and adieu.-- Willski72 ( talk) 15:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Why are there so many games that are today's featured article? Or is this a subjective view of me? -- 213.168.121.113 ( talk) 20:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Ah the "young, tech savvy corps". I would say that I am the first part of that however on the second bit I fall down terribly. I can barely understand how to comment nevermind edit the article. All i can do is dream, while reading "War and Peace" and drinking a cup of tea......-- Willski72 ( talk) 09:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
wikipedia is censoring F**kin' 'Ell It's Fred Titmus. the proper name is Fuckin' 'Ell It's Fred Titmus. FUCKIN' ELL IT'S FRED TITMUS. this will not stop the childrens ears. and it is not the proper name. F**kin' 'Ell It's Fred Titmus doesnt even work!! there is no reason to censor the front page just because he is only one halve a man. it offends everyone who isnt a full human. and dont censor this page. also the page has sex in it. and encourages birglurs. and encourage drugs addicts. and cricket players. this is abuse of bischits. so make it FUCKIN. and dont make it FUCKING by acident. FUCKIN. i dont understand. censored 1 time. are you going to keep censoring people and then sayin your not censors. i asked nicely why this is hapning.
Dont be absurd! Such a thing would never happen! Wikipedia has fallen to some serious lows in the past but to even suggest that they would have a featured article on something as disgusting as Gropecunt Lane is just despicable! Some peoples dirty minds need a good washing!!!-- Willski72 ( talk) 09:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Garden you have once again hit the nail on the head, i thought everyone would have realised that by know! (although that would somewhat spoil the fun) One of these days.....-- Willski72 ( talk) 11:07, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Usually after a golfer wins a major it appears in the "In the news" section. Y.E. Yang of South Korea has become the first Asian player in history to win a golf major. I think this is even more notable than usual. 81.153.15.38 ( talk) 20:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I remember a while back that on the main page, where it says "Other areas of Wikipedia", there used to be em dashes; now it's en dashes. How was it decided to use en dashes instead. — 96.232.52.200 ( talk) 16:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to specify which will be the 3,000,000th article? / regards Bengt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.121.84.241 ( talk) 11:14, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Will there be a banner on the Main Page for the 3 millionth article? -- 70.134.85.248 ( talk) 18:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Let's please not keep it up for too long, seeing how many of those are useless stubs/needing cleanup/POV/lacking references. We'll have cake and fireworks for when we have lots of Featured/Good articles and lists. See WP:Good articles for numbers. Quality not quantity. Reywas92 Talk 23:35, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I cant wait that long for black forest cake!-- Willski72 ( talk) 12:05, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Only around 900 articles to go... -- Tone 19:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi guys, I've been working in hungarien wikipedia for a year and seven months. That will be unbelivable, 3,000,000 articles... I'm very excited about that. Good luck from Hungary. -- Pakos ( talk) 19:52, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Right now, only some 440 articles to go. When WP reached its 2 millionth article, several bots had been ordered to submit hundreds of stubby articles in the very last minute. Still, the winner was just another simple editor of flesh and blood... -- Hapsala ( talk) 22:51, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
When we know, it should be noted what article is #3 million. - Jørgen88 ( talk) 03:13, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
It just reached over 3,000,000 articles. December21st2012Freak ( talk • contribs) 04:06, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Who "determined" it? Can you point us to the discussion? Anyway, here are the candidates for 3 millionth:
Shii (tock) 04:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Wait until it reaches 4,000,000 articles... December21st2012Freak ( talk • contribs) 04:14, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Cargoking
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76.211.107.172, that would not be possible to calculate, as it would be ever-changing. Even since the article was created, many others will have been deleted, redirected, merged and so on, meaning that, already, it is not technically the 3,000,000th article. Our compromise is to list the first article to be listed as the 3,000,000th as our 3,000,000th- even though it is probably only so for a few minutes at most. J Milburn ( talk) 11:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Maybe we should be focusing on even 3000 FA articles instead.... Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:18, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Oh missed the cake! I was looking forward to that too! I've got be quicker at these things!-- Willski72 ( talk) 13:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Oh 3000,0001st!
Simply south (
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Too bad my bet didn't make it. Bloody internet-less work. LOL – Howard the Duck 08:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry to rain on the party but article number is nothing to celebrate. We may have three million articles but the quality is shocking on some, majbe a majority, of them. I spend a lot of my time fixing up bad edits, bad categorisation, getting stuff deleted, adding stub articles that should exist, correcting spelling, etc. When are we going to get fully fledged flagged revisions up and running to improve the quality of WP? With flagged revisions the quality will improve dramicially. I think. Am having trouble finding an analysis of the German WP experience with flagged revisions. -- Alan Liefting ( talk) - 05:42, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Proposing this here as it gets substantially more traffic than the Selected Anniversaries talk page. I propose that the OTD entries are phrased in the present tense. Most "on this day in history"-type articles and documentaries I've seen use the present tense when describing events. It seems more natural - if you put yourself in 1930 (for example) and talk about events unfolding in front of you - to use the present tense to describe things as they happen. Also, it greatly reduces verbiage and avoids potentially awkward past tense constructs such as "had had" (amongst others), especially in entries long enough to contain multiple such instances. Thoughts? (Should this go on the Village Pump? Is there a better place for this discussion?) Zunaid 21:03, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
What about the controversy surrounding Caster Semenya, the South African athlete?-- 41.246.105.58 ( talk) 12:35, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Just couldn't help but notice that a preponderance of FA on the main page are biographies. I would hope that Wikipedia have more variety of content for FA on the main page. I'm sure there's a wider variety of FA that would be suitable for the main page. I'm not saying that there isn't other content that is being left out, but I am saying that there just seem to be more biographies than other types of articles. Hires an editor ( talk) 14:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
....still not been moved to Wikipedia:Main_Page? What opposition is there to moving it from the main namespace?---- occono ( talk) 18:36, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
The main reason to not move it is because there are lots of links to it. So 'Main Page' would have to be a redirect anyway, so what is the point? Prodego talk 22:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
One idea has been to eliminate the page title completely from the URL. The logo, etc. would lead to http://en.wikipedia.org/ or http://en.wikiepdia.org/wiki/ and that would be the Main Page. You'd still have to edit the page somewhere obviously, though.... -- MZMcBride ( talk) 22:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm no sure if this has been discussed before or not - apologies if it has been as I couldn't find it in the search.
The Main Page is what many people first look at when they come to Wikipedia, even if that's only passing through whilst searching for a specific article. Looking at the page layout, it strikes me that the main sections - Featured Article, Featured Picture, Did You Know, On This Day and In The News are all about sharing the best content that Wikipedia has created.
It might be a good idea to have a main section which focusses on encouraging people, particularly new editors, to help out with the project - pull as well as push. It could also encourage more experienced editors to branch out into new areas. This might take content from WP:T and that page could be used to nominate front page sections. It could be rotating in a similar way (job of the day??) and might cover things like:
Rather than make the Main Page longer, I suggest one of the existing sections is dropped or combined - have we any way of knowing which sections are most popular? Alternatively, you could just have smaller sections - not sure we need quite such a long Featured Article excerpt or quite so many Did You Know entries, for instance. What do you think? AndrewRT( Talk) 15:32, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Should be on the news section 77.234.159.97 ( talk) 07:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Moved to article talk page Talk:Natalie Clifford Barney/Archives/2015#"author and poet" Nil Einne ( talk) 16:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Am I the only one who keeps thinking the rocket on ITN is a scroll bar the first time I see it? Nil Einne ( talk) 16:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi from the
Basque Country!
This is a message to the administrators of English Wikipedia or for someone who can help me with this issue:
I´m an user and contributor of the
Basque Wikipedia.,
Basque language is one of the oldest in Europe and the world, it has thousands of years old and is one of the few languages that survived the arrival of Indo-Europeans to Europe. Perhaps being one of the oldest nations or countries of the world not even have our own state, but our language is our homeland and pride. It put us on the map and give a reference recognizable to English speakers, the city of
Pamplona (
Iruña in basque language), where they celebrate the internationally famous festival of
San Fermin is in the
Basque Country.
After this brief introduction I would kindly ask you this request:
On July 15, 2009, in the Basque Wikipedia we exceed the figure of 40,000 articles, today (August 26, 2009) we have 42,000 articles, achievement of which we are very proud, because if we compare proportionately the number of speakers of the Basque language (about a million) with other Wikipedia versions of languages spoken in more than one state or nation in the world with millions of speakers is like to be proud.
Because one of the aims of Wikipedia Project in addition to expanding human knowledge worldwide is also to expand the knowledge of all languages of mankind: From the Basque Wikipedia we wanted to make the request to the users and particularly to the Administrators of the English wikipedia would be possible if you put the link to Basque Wikipedia in your English Wikipedia´s language list of everyone in your Main Page ("Languages" section: as is currently the case Galician or Catalan language) and the Wikipedia list of more than 40,000 items that is below your Main Page ("Wikipedia languages" section). Since English is currently the most powerful, influential and widespread in the world (your wikipedia already has 3,000,000 articles), the presence of Basque Wikipedia in your list of the world would be a great help to supervival of our language and their knowledge in the world.
Awaiting your reply.
Greetings from the Basque Wikipedia.
.
--
Euskalduna
(tell me) 15:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding
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85.86.101.120 (
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Thank you, Modest Genius. -- Euskalduna (tell me) 15:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.86.101.120 ( talk)
Just an FYI, that there is a discussion occurring about possible changes to the ITN section of the main page, located here:
Template talk:In the news#Use of Wikinews. Feel free to jump in on the conversations!
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talk) 09:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
How can it be than under the "on this day" heading Martin Luther King's I have a dream speech is at the bottom of the list ? Now I have nothing to do with the CRM, I'm white, wasn't born when the speech was given and I've never even been to the U.S, but this is one of the greatest human beings ever to have lived the fact this is not at the top of the list is a dirty insult. -- 86.167.42.79 ( talk) 15:43, 28 August 2009 (UTC) RS 24/08/09
A picture of the day that doesn't feature an Australian bird! And actually features something from Africa! Well done! I know, I know, we've discussed this before - a systemic bias, where there is greater content from regions where there is a larger Wikipedia community. But a Southern African feature - whoohoo! I look forward to more in the future, mates. Rfwoolf ( talk) 16:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Just to let people know, a Request for Comment has been made on the content and operation of ITN, located at Template talk:In the news#Questions for discussion. It's also currently the top item on Centralised Discussions. There's some serious discussion going on of a major shakeup of ITN, and I would like to encourage all those with an interest in the Main Page to take a look. Modest Genius talk 17:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Now I stayed up late to watch all the ashes series, but I will grudgingly admit that surely the historic election that is occurring in Japan as we speak is slightly more notable and should be included on the front page news? M0rt ( talk) 22:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
My PC has had an update, and the repairman tinkered with the "Upload Images" and the screen resolution. I have gotten those fixed, but the lettering on Wikipedia is now bright, bold black, instead of regular. How do I fix this? AlbertSM ( talk) 20:26, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Highlight it all, and then push command+B —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.202.121.248 ( talk) 23:07, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
First let me say, no doubt, there are situations where the wikimarkup "pipe" feature is extremely useful. In an article describing someone who never left Kansas, we don't want to have to say he was born in Salina, Kansas, went to school in Manhattan, Kansas, and had a regular sales route that went between Topeka, Kansas and Dodge City, Kansas.
However the feature is much overused. One of my regular cleanup tasks is to change things like [[Oscar Luigi Scalfaro|the then President of the Italian Republic]] to " Oscar Luigi Scalfaro, at the time the President of the Italian Republic". This is much better syntax because it doesn't hide what you're talking about inside the link. It's important always to remember that articles may be printed out, and any information encoded into a wikilink is then missing entirely.
So where do editors get this idea? I'm afraid to a large extent it may be from the Main Page, which is a regular offender. Two egregious examples from today's (2009 Aug 31) Main Page: In did you know, the word topologically is linked to our homeomorphism article, even though what is displayed in the animation is actually a homotopy. And the phrase equal birth rights is linked to LGBT rights in the United Kingdom; a cursory scan of that article does not explain what "equal birth rights" are, exactly. -- Trovatore ( talk) 18:25, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
The [[Imperial Japanese Navy]] '''[[Attack on Pearl Harbor|attacked]]''' [[Pearl Harbor]] in [[Hawaii]]
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Zzyzx11 (
talk) 07:17, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Not sure if this has been proposed before on not, but why not add a section for featured list articles? There is one for Featured Pictures, In the news, Did You know, Featured articles, and On this day. What harm could adding an FL section do?-- Will C 13:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll help out in anyway I can to get one up and running. I'm no admin but I have enough expirence that I could be useful.-- Will C 01:09, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm just curious, is it common that WP uses less than ideal phrasing to intrigue people and get them to read articles? I'm okay with it, I was just curious if it was policy, something WP does every once in a while, or something else entirely. The reason I ask is the spaceship flying turtle currently in DYK. I know "turtle" links to the explanation of what is meant, but I checked the mercury-atlas 8 article first and was amused to find out the reason for it. I'm not criticizing, I'm actually applauding. I thought it was a great way to get me into the article. 04redsox07 ( talk) 15:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I notice a lot of sites are using recommendtions. I think wikipedia could do the same. Example: I spend a couple hours looking at the Metallica wiki page, then an hour looking at the Disturbed wiki page. When I visit Wikipedia the next day, i go to the wikipedia main page and there's a little box that says "Wikipedia Recommends" and it has the Wolfmother, or Rage Against the Machine pages listed there.
Basically I am suggesting some kind of wiki history tracking system that suggests what pages to look at next. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Example974 ( talk • contribs) 22:22, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
"This page is for discussing improvements to the entire Main Page only. This is not a place to ask general questions or submit content." Even if such an article were suitable for Wikipedia (which is unlikely), its creation shouldn't be discussed here. Feel free to visit the talk page at Wikipedia:WikiProject Michael Jackson. Bencherlite Talk 19:58, 2 September 2009 (UTC) |
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I have a suggestion. Make an article especially about the paternity of MJ´s kids. Many folks wanna know it would be an awesome idea to make such a page after the media hype. A wise thing to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.212.215.31 ( talk) 19:21, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
This is not the place to discuss this. If someone wants to write it, they can- I suspect it will be nominated for merging/deletion fairly quickly though. J Milburn ( talk) 19:53, 2 September 2009 (UTC) I cant write the thing cuz i cant create an account becuz ma pc´s broken. I´m using a very old spare pc. Could someone write an article named `parenty of mj´s kids` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.212.215.31 ( talk) 19:57, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
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Is this the most interesting featured article anyone could find? Why don't we put Gropecunt Lane back up there? At least people wouldn't fall asleep at their computer terminals. 74.192.194.29 ( talk) 02:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
What is boring to one person (ie you and me) is of great interest to another, especially those who managed to make it a featured article, you cant have funny ones all the time!-- Willski72 ( talk) 09:56, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
The last two sentences of today's lead are not attributed to sources or expanded upon anywhere in the article. I feel as if a neutral article about an interesting and widely used dye has been hijacked to serve someone's agenda. I feel that the featured article process has let the readers down, because things like that are supposed to be against the style guidelines for all articles, let alone "best of the best" content. I also don't see anywhere near the size, depth, or revision history in this article that I have come to expect from other good Wikipedia articles. Wnt ( talk) 06:35, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Please see and comment here on this proposal. Thanks, Cenarium ( talk) 23:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Not ideal for a Khan article, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ricardo_Montalban_in_Fiesta_trailer.jpg is public domain. I hate to see a pictureless FA. -- Nricardo ( talk) 00:11, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! @ harej 08:06, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Why is the FA picture not showing up? Is this just my computer? 165.91.166.231 ( talk) 18:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
shouldn't The Homebrew Channel be featured tomorrow ? Chickenator ( talk) 03:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
One item in "On this day" Sept 5 violates this policy. Admins please check.-- yousaf465' 03:48, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
if i may say s myself this is a brill site :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.127.113 ( talk) 22:38, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
(groan!)-- Willski72 ( talk) 12:40, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I've heard many names for terrorists in my time but never have i heard one as good as "widdy-wadders". If thats not going to put you off being one i dont know what is!-- Willski72 ( talk) 10:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I noticed this at the time but didn't say anything since no one else did. The issue was calling Black September a terrorist group, not the specific group of people involved terrorists or the attack a terrorist attack. You will note that while the article calls the people terrorists, and the attack a terrorist attack, it calls Black September a militant group as does the Black September article. To use a more modern example the al Qaeda article does not call them a terrorist group although we do call the September 11 attacks a terrorist attacks. WP:Words to avoid does caution against calling things terrorist in the passive voice. While I'm not that familiar with discussions, I presume this is fairly normal practice. It is sometimes clear per WP:NPOV and WP:Undue that it's accurate to call something a terrorist attack. Calling a diverse group a terrorist group however raises many more complications. Nil Einne ( talk) 16:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)