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This list is overwhelming focused on 20th century American women novelists; I've added several earlier writers, a bunch of poets, and a number of women from other countries, but the list is still very short. Smawnmahlau—Preceding undated comment added by A Musing ( talk • contribs) 21:42, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm adding in feminist authors...Just as a note, I know some of the links are dead at the moment; I'm putting all the names in and then I'm going to go back and write articles for all of those who need them. Also, thanks to HMSaccount for putting in nationalities and dates! That does make the list easier to browse. Foreverfreebird2 17:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)foreverfreebird2
Hi scribblingwoman and Foreverfreebird2. This note to let you know I do plan to complete adding the dates, nationalities and type of writing, it just may take several days. After (or during) that though, would anyone be interested in making this list even more useful in line with Wikipedia:List guideline? I'm thinking that would mean (1) creating an article about women writers which would at least include why there is interest in women as writers (as opposed to men), and who some of the towering/significant figures in this area are. (2) reorganizing the list itself on some principle other than the alphabet, based on how people are most likely to use it – I suspect by date is key? Or nationality? (Maybe it should even be several lists). (3) possibly formatting the list as a table (see the format at List of famous people who died young). Some column headings might be: Name, Dates, Nationality, Type of writing (novels, poetry, etc), Genre, Known for (major work or contribution). I always have more ideas than I succeed in carrying out, so help/ input would be great. Thanks for your thoughts. HMAccount 14:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Family name | Given name | Born | Died | Nationality | Type | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Xiao | Hong | 1911 | 1942 | Chinese | novelist | Also short story writer. |
Yamamoto | Hisaye | 1921 | Japanese American | short-story writer | ||
Yearsley | Ann | 1753 | 1806 | English | poet | Also novelist and playwright. |
Yezierska | Anzia | 1883 | 1970 | Polish American | novelist | Also short-story writer. |
Yosano | Akiko | 1878 | 1942 | Japanese | poet | |
Yoshimoto | Banana | 1964 | Japanese | novelist | ||
Young | Olivia Rudolph | 1894 | 1974 | American | poet | Also teacher. Poet Laureate of California. |
Yourcenar | Marguerite | 1903 | 1987 | French | novelist | |
Zayas y Sotomayor | María de | 1590 | 1661 c | Spanish | novelist | |
Zitkala-Sa | 1876 | 1938 | American | writer | Gertrude Simmons Bonnin | |
Zürn | Unica | 1916 | 1970 | German | poet | Also painter. |
Zwicky | Fay | 1933 | Australian | poet | Also academic. |
As some of you will have noticed, "Women writers" has been removed as a category. Here is the discussion. I posted something here, but so far, no-one has responded. I looked at the article " Categorization/Gender, race and sexuality" and it says:
So, I have begun to draft such an article. It's not quite ready for prime time, but when it is, people friendly to the project of expanding Wikipedia coverage of women's writing are invited to stop by and help. (So far it's just a pile of links, many if not most of which I intend to discard but which link to items that might be helpful in drafting the article and arguing the case that "women's writing" is a legitimate area of literary study.) scribblingwoman 19:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Update: I just (finally) submitted the category for review for reinstatement. Fingers crossed. scribblingwoman 15:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Thought people interested in this area might like to know that Category:Women screenwriters is being considered for deletion. — scribbling woman 02:55, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Can we leave this as women writers? I realize that "women" is not an adjective, but the term "women writers" can be a compound noun. A quick google search will confirm that "women writers" is preferred. Portia1780 ( talk) 21:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
This is one of those pages that I am pretty positive would be deleted at WP:AFD, and the only reason I'm not nominating it is sympathy for the people who put so much work into it. But honestly, this list is totally useless, and would be useless even if it did approach a semi-reasonable level of completion; I searched for five writers off the top of my head ( Philippa Gregory, Ann M. Martin, Caroline B. Cooney, Tracy Chevalier and Judy Blume) and only the last of them was included. Theoldsparkle ( talk) 18:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Please spare us for another three months and see if it's improved. Still, 13,253 hits in the last 30 days mean it's helping or disappointing quite a lot of people. Did you add the five, or shall I? Bmcln1 ( talk) 19:10, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
...who, judging from his edit history, has a "conflict of interest" here. Stephanie Adams is listed as a model and author on Wikipedia and according to her biography as well as Amazon and other sources, she is the "author of two dozen publications" so what's going on here? She was listed as a writer for a while now and is definitely a writer. 74.101.6.200 ( talk) 17:00, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
I think Stephanie Adams has notability, as a former Playboy centrefold, an astrologer and seer, and a Lesbian activist, perhaps. But I don't think those qualities add up to notability as a writer, particularly as her publications seem to be almanacs with a shelf-life of a year. So I would support the person who removed her from this list. Still, why don't you register as a Wikipedian and join us in trying to make this list more complete? Bmcln1 ( talk) 20:18, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
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I've just managed to reverse about 70 changes made overnight by an editor. There was not much rhyme or reason in them. They included omitting the nationality of some authors and adding the full birth dates (presumably as an aid to astrologers), and in several cases omitting the bracketed name in the original language, where different. Anyway, perhaps it's time to set a standard. Let me begin by suggesting the following:
Given name(s) and surname (other names where important for idetnification or where the English is spelled variously, year of birth - year of death), national affiliation plus claim to writership (novelist, poet etc.), language in which she wrote, where different, one or perhaps two seminal works that have Wikipedia pages of their own.
I suggest no "red links", but candidates for which there is a page being prepared could be stored in Discussion. I suggest NO information not in the articles to which the links refer, otherwise we will have to reference the whole thing, which is bureaucratic work and a pain and a sorrow.
I do hope others will join in expanding the list. I think it's still about a third of the length that it should be. Bmcln1 ( talk) 08:48, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
I'll leave you all to do as you see fit, then. Bmcln1 ( talk) 19:45, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Is this supposed to list all women writers from every country that have an article? Because if it is, it will get very long and so maybe it should be split by letter (ex: List of women writers: A).-- Cattus talk 15:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
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Is there a standard that the country abbreviations are following, or was it invented just for this page? If the latter, I think there are a few mistakes:
pburka ( talk) 22:19, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Bmcln1 ( talk) 23:38, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
It would be a lot easier for readers to spell out the full country names rather than rely on abbreviations. This isn't paper (usually), so space is not really a constraint. -- Beland ( talk) 01:20, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
For many living authors, we know their birth date, so the list has something like (b. 1999). But for others we're missing that information, and the list simply says (living). This is going to be a challenge to maintain: if we don't know their birth date it's likely that their death might not widely reported, either, and we don't even have a clue in the list as to how old they might be. I propose that we replace any (living) entries with (fl. 19xx–), where 19xx is the date of their first known significant publication. If they're retired, or their last publication is more than a couple of decades ago, we might wish to add a closing date, as well. This is essentially what we would do for historical authors whose birth and death dates are unknown, it provides more relevant and accurate information than (living), and it seems like it will better stand the test of time. I've already done this to the E section, but can revert it if there are objections. Should I start making this change the remainder of the list? pburka ( talk) 23:13, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
I quite like the fl. 19xx– idea, but "living" is used on so many other lists. To be frank, I haven't heard of any "living"s who are long dead, but the same could happen with fl. 19xx–s. Could we leave it for now? I'm still working through country lists for additions. Glad you're spotting some of the mistakes. Bmcln1 ( talk) 23:56, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
fl should only be used in a historical context. It's unlikely to be appropriate for many 20th century authors. I would suggest following the article on the author - if you happen to have better information, update the article (with references) first. All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough 16:15, 30 December 2020 (UTC).
Regarding the recent change from "young adult" to "youth": this does make the list more succinct, but it may be less precise. Young adult fiction is a recognized category in publishing, while youth is somewhat ambiguous. What about using the abbreviation "YA" instead? It's widely used in publishing, it's more precise than "youth," and it's even more concise. pburka ( talk) 00:09, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
This article is currently the third largest on enwiki, at just under 520k, and needs to be broken down. I propose splitting it into articles covering A-C (~120k), D-H (~107k), I-M (~115k), N-S (~112k), and T-Z (~62k). pauli133 ( talk) 13:42, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Should the word "notable" not be added to the titles of the articles? Obviously, the articles don't contain every woman writer in history, and Wikipedia bases its inclusion of articles off notability, so shouldn't the word be logically added in the titles? Of course, I could be missing something. User:Heyoostorm _talk! 18:25, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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This list is overwhelming focused on 20th century American women novelists; I've added several earlier writers, a bunch of poets, and a number of women from other countries, but the list is still very short. Smawnmahlau—Preceding undated comment added by A Musing ( talk • contribs) 21:42, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm adding in feminist authors...Just as a note, I know some of the links are dead at the moment; I'm putting all the names in and then I'm going to go back and write articles for all of those who need them. Also, thanks to HMSaccount for putting in nationalities and dates! That does make the list easier to browse. Foreverfreebird2 17:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)foreverfreebird2
Hi scribblingwoman and Foreverfreebird2. This note to let you know I do plan to complete adding the dates, nationalities and type of writing, it just may take several days. After (or during) that though, would anyone be interested in making this list even more useful in line with Wikipedia:List guideline? I'm thinking that would mean (1) creating an article about women writers which would at least include why there is interest in women as writers (as opposed to men), and who some of the towering/significant figures in this area are. (2) reorganizing the list itself on some principle other than the alphabet, based on how people are most likely to use it – I suspect by date is key? Or nationality? (Maybe it should even be several lists). (3) possibly formatting the list as a table (see the format at List of famous people who died young). Some column headings might be: Name, Dates, Nationality, Type of writing (novels, poetry, etc), Genre, Known for (major work or contribution). I always have more ideas than I succeed in carrying out, so help/ input would be great. Thanks for your thoughts. HMAccount 14:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Family name | Given name | Born | Died | Nationality | Type | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Xiao | Hong | 1911 | 1942 | Chinese | novelist | Also short story writer. |
Yamamoto | Hisaye | 1921 | Japanese American | short-story writer | ||
Yearsley | Ann | 1753 | 1806 | English | poet | Also novelist and playwright. |
Yezierska | Anzia | 1883 | 1970 | Polish American | novelist | Also short-story writer. |
Yosano | Akiko | 1878 | 1942 | Japanese | poet | |
Yoshimoto | Banana | 1964 | Japanese | novelist | ||
Young | Olivia Rudolph | 1894 | 1974 | American | poet | Also teacher. Poet Laureate of California. |
Yourcenar | Marguerite | 1903 | 1987 | French | novelist | |
Zayas y Sotomayor | María de | 1590 | 1661 c | Spanish | novelist | |
Zitkala-Sa | 1876 | 1938 | American | writer | Gertrude Simmons Bonnin | |
Zürn | Unica | 1916 | 1970 | German | poet | Also painter. |
Zwicky | Fay | 1933 | Australian | poet | Also academic. |
As some of you will have noticed, "Women writers" has been removed as a category. Here is the discussion. I posted something here, but so far, no-one has responded. I looked at the article " Categorization/Gender, race and sexuality" and it says:
So, I have begun to draft such an article. It's not quite ready for prime time, but when it is, people friendly to the project of expanding Wikipedia coverage of women's writing are invited to stop by and help. (So far it's just a pile of links, many if not most of which I intend to discard but which link to items that might be helpful in drafting the article and arguing the case that "women's writing" is a legitimate area of literary study.) scribblingwoman 19:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Update: I just (finally) submitted the category for review for reinstatement. Fingers crossed. scribblingwoman 15:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Thought people interested in this area might like to know that Category:Women screenwriters is being considered for deletion. — scribbling woman 02:55, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Can we leave this as women writers? I realize that "women" is not an adjective, but the term "women writers" can be a compound noun. A quick google search will confirm that "women writers" is preferred. Portia1780 ( talk) 21:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
This is one of those pages that I am pretty positive would be deleted at WP:AFD, and the only reason I'm not nominating it is sympathy for the people who put so much work into it. But honestly, this list is totally useless, and would be useless even if it did approach a semi-reasonable level of completion; I searched for five writers off the top of my head ( Philippa Gregory, Ann M. Martin, Caroline B. Cooney, Tracy Chevalier and Judy Blume) and only the last of them was included. Theoldsparkle ( talk) 18:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Please spare us for another three months and see if it's improved. Still, 13,253 hits in the last 30 days mean it's helping or disappointing quite a lot of people. Did you add the five, or shall I? Bmcln1 ( talk) 19:10, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
...who, judging from his edit history, has a "conflict of interest" here. Stephanie Adams is listed as a model and author on Wikipedia and according to her biography as well as Amazon and other sources, she is the "author of two dozen publications" so what's going on here? She was listed as a writer for a while now and is definitely a writer. 74.101.6.200 ( talk) 17:00, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
I think Stephanie Adams has notability, as a former Playboy centrefold, an astrologer and seer, and a Lesbian activist, perhaps. But I don't think those qualities add up to notability as a writer, particularly as her publications seem to be almanacs with a shelf-life of a year. So I would support the person who removed her from this list. Still, why don't you register as a Wikipedian and join us in trying to make this list more complete? Bmcln1 ( talk) 20:18, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
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I've just managed to reverse about 70 changes made overnight by an editor. There was not much rhyme or reason in them. They included omitting the nationality of some authors and adding the full birth dates (presumably as an aid to astrologers), and in several cases omitting the bracketed name in the original language, where different. Anyway, perhaps it's time to set a standard. Let me begin by suggesting the following:
Given name(s) and surname (other names where important for idetnification or where the English is spelled variously, year of birth - year of death), national affiliation plus claim to writership (novelist, poet etc.), language in which she wrote, where different, one or perhaps two seminal works that have Wikipedia pages of their own.
I suggest no "red links", but candidates for which there is a page being prepared could be stored in Discussion. I suggest NO information not in the articles to which the links refer, otherwise we will have to reference the whole thing, which is bureaucratic work and a pain and a sorrow.
I do hope others will join in expanding the list. I think it's still about a third of the length that it should be. Bmcln1 ( talk) 08:48, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
I'll leave you all to do as you see fit, then. Bmcln1 ( talk) 19:45, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Is this supposed to list all women writers from every country that have an article? Because if it is, it will get very long and so maybe it should be split by letter (ex: List of women writers: A).-- Cattus talk 15:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
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Is there a standard that the country abbreviations are following, or was it invented just for this page? If the latter, I think there are a few mistakes:
pburka ( talk) 22:19, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Bmcln1 ( talk) 23:38, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
It would be a lot easier for readers to spell out the full country names rather than rely on abbreviations. This isn't paper (usually), so space is not really a constraint. -- Beland ( talk) 01:20, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
For many living authors, we know their birth date, so the list has something like (b. 1999). But for others we're missing that information, and the list simply says (living). This is going to be a challenge to maintain: if we don't know their birth date it's likely that their death might not widely reported, either, and we don't even have a clue in the list as to how old they might be. I propose that we replace any (living) entries with (fl. 19xx–), where 19xx is the date of their first known significant publication. If they're retired, or their last publication is more than a couple of decades ago, we might wish to add a closing date, as well. This is essentially what we would do for historical authors whose birth and death dates are unknown, it provides more relevant and accurate information than (living), and it seems like it will better stand the test of time. I've already done this to the E section, but can revert it if there are objections. Should I start making this change the remainder of the list? pburka ( talk) 23:13, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
I quite like the fl. 19xx– idea, but "living" is used on so many other lists. To be frank, I haven't heard of any "living"s who are long dead, but the same could happen with fl. 19xx–s. Could we leave it for now? I'm still working through country lists for additions. Glad you're spotting some of the mistakes. Bmcln1 ( talk) 23:56, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
fl should only be used in a historical context. It's unlikely to be appropriate for many 20th century authors. I would suggest following the article on the author - if you happen to have better information, update the article (with references) first. All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough 16:15, 30 December 2020 (UTC).
Regarding the recent change from "young adult" to "youth": this does make the list more succinct, but it may be less precise. Young adult fiction is a recognized category in publishing, while youth is somewhat ambiguous. What about using the abbreviation "YA" instead? It's widely used in publishing, it's more precise than "youth," and it's even more concise. pburka ( talk) 00:09, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
This article is currently the third largest on enwiki, at just under 520k, and needs to be broken down. I propose splitting it into articles covering A-C (~120k), D-H (~107k), I-M (~115k), N-S (~112k), and T-Z (~62k). pauli133 ( talk) 13:42, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Should the word "notable" not be added to the titles of the articles? Obviously, the articles don't contain every woman writer in history, and Wikipedia bases its inclusion of articles off notability, so shouldn't the word be logically added in the titles? Of course, I could be missing something. User:Heyoostorm _talk! 18:25, 9 January 2021 (UTC)