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Whoa, what happened here? Circeus deleted the accidents that do not involve white people. Might not be NPOV (just my opinion of this arbitrary action). Nutmegger 01:16, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 18:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements. See original edit or references for year placement.
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I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 23:51, February 9, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements. See original edit or references for year placement.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 10:42, March 16, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 10:42, March 16, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 10:03, May 23, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 14:03, May 28, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 14:03, May 28, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 12:18, June 8, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 04:18, June 13, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 12:01, June 17, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 03:02, June 21, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 22:10, August 7, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 14:02, August 22, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 17:00, August 30, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 14:09, September 19, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 23:35, October 20, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 11:40, January 21, 2010 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 10:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 03:30, September 9, 2010 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I would think it would be notable enough to make the list, it was covered by most major American news outlets (CNN, Fox, etc) Every local news source, and People Magazine as well. Links can be provided if you require. 70.101.32.218 22:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with most of these removals.
While I'm at it, what do you think of adding that tanker fire that collapsed an overpass of the oakland freeway? n:Tanker truck fire causes collapse on Oakland Freeway.
Circeus 23:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Oh, so it should say "A landslide buries a bus near Eloxochitlan"... okay, that makes sense now. Anyway, the reason it seems like a bigger deal in Western culture is because, no offense, most Wikipedians on en.wikipedia.org live in Western culture and accidents locally virtually always matter more to people than faraway ones (all else being equal)... personally, though I really truly don't want this to sound insulting, I think it's demeaning to countries like India to suggest something on the order of "oh, it's no big deal, there's a billion more where those came from"... which is a decent summation of your argument for why European or American crashes mean more. (I hope that didn't sound rude... it's late, that's my only excuse.)
Oh, okay. That makes more sense, I see where you're coming from now... yes, I certainly meant "most people don't tend to drive", not "most people are not physically or legally capable of driving". But in the U.S., I would bet that over 90% of workers actually drive every day to work and back, often for a half and hour (each way!) or longer. So, for mostly that reason, a U.S. crash is much, much, much more likely to occur than a European one (when you correct for the higher general population in all of Europe, of course). Maybe a U.S. crash is less likely to happen per mile driven (since U.S. drivers are more experienced, one would hope they're better, too). In either case, it doesn't really matter. But still, pretty enlightening. Thanks! Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 07:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
For the records, these are the criteria I tentatively applied:
There are probably some other things I am forgetting, but these seems sensible to consider when working on this list. Circeus 05:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
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I've been working my way through this article tidying it up and adding references where I can. However, the various contributors have had somewhat different ideas about verb tenses - some have entered things in the past tense (ie '1956 - a bus crashed into a camel and 68 people died') while the majority have used the present tense (ie '1956 - a bus crashes into a camel, killing 68 people'). In the interest of consistency I've been changing everything to the latter - if anyone has a better idea please say so. ~ mazca talk 12:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
According to http://www.francisfrith.com/search/england/kent/monkton/, "Minster has the dubious claim to fame of being the site of the world’s first fatal motor-car accident". I am unable to find more information about it, as insufficient details are given on the page to provide useful search terms. The quote is an extract from a book, "Thanet Pocket Album" by Helen Livingston ( ISBN 1-85937-718-1). However, if the information is correct I would also expect it to be mentioned in other sources. If it is correct the accident should probably be in the list; does anyone have more information about it? -- Snigbrook (talk) 23:29, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I am a frequent traveler to poor countries and understand the most dangerous risk any traveler (who doesn't take unusually dumb risks) can take is riding on buses. Anytime I feel cheap and want to avoid buying a plane ticket, I refer to this article. When I make my India trip, there is no way in hell I'll take anything but the train. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.65.22 ( talk) 16:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I included the Chappaquiddick incident as a notable automobile wreck, given that it had large political implications. 68.32.48.221 ( talk) 20:12, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I didn't know how else to post on here but I wanted to add an accident from Canada to this list. 22 young men were killed in a fiery crash on the Trans Canada on May 28, 1980 near Swift Current, Sk. Please see this link. http://www.thetelegram.com/Arts---Life/Commuting/2009-04-17/article-1438412/Bus-tragedy-still-painful/1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.233.88.90 ( talk) 15:48, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Since we have articles about road accidents from 2000-2009 and 2010-2019, I'm wondering if we should rename this article to something like List of road accidents 1700-1999. Any thoughts? Paul MacDermott ( talk) 13:33, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
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Whoa, what happened here? Circeus deleted the accidents that do not involve white people. Might not be NPOV (just my opinion of this arbitrary action). Nutmegger 01:16, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 18:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements. See original edit or references for year placement.
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I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 23:51, February 9, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements. See original edit or references for year placement.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 10:42, March 16, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 10:42, March 16, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 10:03, May 23, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 14:03, May 28, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 14:03, May 28, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 12:18, June 8, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 04:18, June 13, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 12:01, June 17, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 03:02, June 21, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 22:10, August 7, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 14:02, August 22, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 17:00, August 30, 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.
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I would think it would be notable enough to make the list, it was covered by most major American news outlets (CNN, Fox, etc) Every local news source, and People Magazine as well. Links can be provided if you require. 70.101.32.218 22:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with most of these removals.
While I'm at it, what do you think of adding that tanker fire that collapsed an overpass of the oakland freeway? n:Tanker truck fire causes collapse on Oakland Freeway.
Circeus 23:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Oh, so it should say "A landslide buries a bus near Eloxochitlan"... okay, that makes sense now. Anyway, the reason it seems like a bigger deal in Western culture is because, no offense, most Wikipedians on en.wikipedia.org live in Western culture and accidents locally virtually always matter more to people than faraway ones (all else being equal)... personally, though I really truly don't want this to sound insulting, I think it's demeaning to countries like India to suggest something on the order of "oh, it's no big deal, there's a billion more where those came from"... which is a decent summation of your argument for why European or American crashes mean more. (I hope that didn't sound rude... it's late, that's my only excuse.)
Oh, okay. That makes more sense, I see where you're coming from now... yes, I certainly meant "most people don't tend to drive", not "most people are not physically or legally capable of driving". But in the U.S., I would bet that over 90% of workers actually drive every day to work and back, often for a half and hour (each way!) or longer. So, for mostly that reason, a U.S. crash is much, much, much more likely to occur than a European one (when you correct for the higher general population in all of Europe, of course). Maybe a U.S. crash is less likely to happen per mile driven (since U.S. drivers are more experienced, one would hope they're better, too). In either case, it doesn't really matter. But still, pretty enlightening. Thanks! Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 07:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
For the records, these are the criteria I tentatively applied:
There are probably some other things I am forgetting, but these seems sensible to consider when working on this list. Circeus 05:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed many grammatical errors on this page
I've been working my way through this article tidying it up and adding references where I can. However, the various contributors have had somewhat different ideas about verb tenses - some have entered things in the past tense (ie '1956 - a bus crashed into a camel and 68 people died') while the majority have used the present tense (ie '1956 - a bus crashes into a camel, killing 68 people'). In the interest of consistency I've been changing everything to the latter - if anyone has a better idea please say so. ~ mazca talk 12:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
According to http://www.francisfrith.com/search/england/kent/monkton/, "Minster has the dubious claim to fame of being the site of the world’s first fatal motor-car accident". I am unable to find more information about it, as insufficient details are given on the page to provide useful search terms. The quote is an extract from a book, "Thanet Pocket Album" by Helen Livingston ( ISBN 1-85937-718-1). However, if the information is correct I would also expect it to be mentioned in other sources. If it is correct the accident should probably be in the list; does anyone have more information about it? -- Snigbrook (talk) 23:29, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I am a frequent traveler to poor countries and understand the most dangerous risk any traveler (who doesn't take unusually dumb risks) can take is riding on buses. Anytime I feel cheap and want to avoid buying a plane ticket, I refer to this article. When I make my India trip, there is no way in hell I'll take anything but the train. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.65.22 ( talk) 16:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I included the Chappaquiddick incident as a notable automobile wreck, given that it had large political implications. 68.32.48.221 ( talk) 20:12, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I didn't know how else to post on here but I wanted to add an accident from Canada to this list. 22 young men were killed in a fiery crash on the Trans Canada on May 28, 1980 near Swift Current, Sk. Please see this link. http://www.thetelegram.com/Arts---Life/Commuting/2009-04-17/article-1438412/Bus-tragedy-still-painful/1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.233.88.90 ( talk) 15:48, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Since we have articles about road accidents from 2000-2009 and 2010-2019, I'm wondering if we should rename this article to something like List of road accidents 1700-1999. Any thoughts? Paul MacDermott ( talk) 13:33, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
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