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Okay, I know the Republic of Artsakh will cease to exist from 1 January 2024, but it still has nearly a month of life left. Why we removed them early? As of today, the official website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Artsakh is still up and running, this country is still alive.
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https://www.nkr.am/en/general-information 2001:8003:9100:2C01:110B:5058:3F5A:723B ( talk) 00:37, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Neither of the these states are listed here, and though the latter does ot control major cities, other ones do have more or less of control over their claimed territory and functional government. I suggest they should be added to the article. 176.36.187.17 ( talk) 04:02, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
the section for western Sahara says only the Us and Morocco recognize western Sahara as part of Morocco, but from what I can see This is outdated As Israel now does too [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/7/17/israel-recognises-western-sahara-as-part-of-morocco [2] https://www.reuters.com/world/morocco-says-israel-recognises-its-sovereignty-over-western-sahara-2023-07-17/ Rad da writer ( talk) 16:30, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
It probably should not be here as merely an occupied territory - [3], and it is already described as such on proper page, i.e. Russian-occupied_territories#Transnistria_(1992–present). My very best wishes ( talk) 02:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Is there a source that North Korea formally recognizes the Republic of Korea? Seems very doubtful from what I could dig up…
RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 03:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Ukraine had recognised Chechnya on October 18th 2022 and Ingushetia on February 23 2024, they should be listed as States recognised by at least one UN member. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SOROSHENKO ( talk • contribs) 13:23, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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As of december 2023 a new state has declared independance from Myanmar/Burma, its named Chinland I genuinly believe it should be added to this list as an independant state with no recognition at all but still an independant state Sneakier ( talk) 14:27, 10 April 2024 (UTC) Add Chinland to the list of unrecognised states please as well I noticed its considered as a rebel state but idk if it truly is sorry if I wasted your time I just love geography so much...
Unlike the Gaza Strip and the regions of Iraq and Syria that are prevented from uniting due to situations such as wars, Puntland is an autonomous federal entity that declared itself temporarily independent, but in Somalia there is a declared intention of rupture (although temporary). Jvbignacio9 ( talk) 22:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Should we remove Armenia, China, Cyprus, Israel, Palestine, and North Korea from this article? WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 16:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Do you support or oppose removing Armenia, China, Cyprus, Israel, Palestine, and North Korea from this article?
Prior to this discussion, I had removed the main category of this article from Armenia, China, and Israel articles before being reverted for the Israel one where the editor cited this article as to why Israel has limited recognition. However, I would argue that none of these countries have limited recognition. The articles list two theories as to what counts for a country having recognition. Wikipedia is not run by theories. We shouldn't be beholden to ideas or opinions and label them as fact when there is no universally agreed-upon rule of thumb or rule regarding which of these two theories should be the basis of a nation holding recognition. What we should constitute a nation having recognition is when a majority of countries have recognized another formally. Perhaps a two-thirds majority rule in which a nation has been recognized by two-thirds of nations would mean the current roster of UN member states having widespread recognition.
We should bear in mind that diplomatic relations are a form of recognition, but recognition doesn't imply bilateral relations. Despite territorial disputes between two or more claimants, there is recognition of the political entity as a nation and thus shouldn't be the basis of how recognition is built if they have been recognized by a majority of states.
I hope I made my arguments clear as to why these six countries should be removed from this article and why the mainspace category for this article does not apply to their respective articles. Please let me know if there is anything I missed. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 16:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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Okay, I know the Republic of Artsakh will cease to exist from 1 January 2024, but it still has nearly a month of life left. Why we removed them early? As of today, the official website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Artsakh is still up and running, this country is still alive.
Links:
https://www.nkr.am/en/general-information 2001:8003:9100:2C01:110B:5058:3F5A:723B ( talk) 00:37, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Neither of the these states are listed here, and though the latter does ot control major cities, other ones do have more or less of control over their claimed territory and functional government. I suggest they should be added to the article. 176.36.187.17 ( talk) 04:02, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
the section for western Sahara says only the Us and Morocco recognize western Sahara as part of Morocco, but from what I can see This is outdated As Israel now does too [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/7/17/israel-recognises-western-sahara-as-part-of-morocco [2] https://www.reuters.com/world/morocco-says-israel-recognises-its-sovereignty-over-western-sahara-2023-07-17/ Rad da writer ( talk) 16:30, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
It probably should not be here as merely an occupied territory - [3], and it is already described as such on proper page, i.e. Russian-occupied_territories#Transnistria_(1992–present). My very best wishes ( talk) 02:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Is there a source that North Korea formally recognizes the Republic of Korea? Seems very doubtful from what I could dig up…
RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 03:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Ukraine had recognised Chechnya on October 18th 2022 and Ingushetia on February 23 2024, they should be listed as States recognised by at least one UN member. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SOROSHENKO ( talk • contribs) 13:23, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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As of december 2023 a new state has declared independance from Myanmar/Burma, its named Chinland I genuinly believe it should be added to this list as an independant state with no recognition at all but still an independant state Sneakier ( talk) 14:27, 10 April 2024 (UTC) Add Chinland to the list of unrecognised states please as well I noticed its considered as a rebel state but idk if it truly is sorry if I wasted your time I just love geography so much...
Unlike the Gaza Strip and the regions of Iraq and Syria that are prevented from uniting due to situations such as wars, Puntland is an autonomous federal entity that declared itself temporarily independent, but in Somalia there is a declared intention of rupture (although temporary). Jvbignacio9 ( talk) 22:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Should we remove Armenia, China, Cyprus, Israel, Palestine, and North Korea from this article? WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 16:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Do you support or oppose removing Armenia, China, Cyprus, Israel, Palestine, and North Korea from this article?
Prior to this discussion, I had removed the main category of this article from Armenia, China, and Israel articles before being reverted for the Israel one where the editor cited this article as to why Israel has limited recognition. However, I would argue that none of these countries have limited recognition. The articles list two theories as to what counts for a country having recognition. Wikipedia is not run by theories. We shouldn't be beholden to ideas or opinions and label them as fact when there is no universally agreed-upon rule of thumb or rule regarding which of these two theories should be the basis of a nation holding recognition. What we should constitute a nation having recognition is when a majority of countries have recognized another formally. Perhaps a two-thirds majority rule in which a nation has been recognized by two-thirds of nations would mean the current roster of UN member states having widespread recognition.
We should bear in mind that diplomatic relations are a form of recognition, but recognition doesn't imply bilateral relations. Despite territorial disputes between two or more claimants, there is recognition of the political entity as a nation and thus shouldn't be the basis of how recognition is built if they have been recognized by a majority of states.
I hope I made my arguments clear as to why these six countries should be removed from this article and why the mainspace category for this article does not apply to their respective articles. Please let me know if there is anything I missed. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 16:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)