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Here is his LinkedIn page. Someone like to add him?
https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-glenn/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicolasRSparrow ( talk • contribs) 22:34, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
done ItChEE40 ( talk) 01:04, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Does this sound like good criteria for listing someone on the roster page?
For office staff, it's likely going to be a credible media report that person is working for AEW. Froo ( talk) 13:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
In the most recent Road to Double or Nothing videos and the latest ITV special on AEW has Michael Cuellari listed as Associate Producer under his name...not Coordinator. He was listed as Coordinator in the first two episodes, but has since been renamed.— Preceding unsigned comment added by NicolasRSparrow ( talk • contribs)
In the latest Being The Elite, they announced Shawn Carr is the Head of Ring Crew for AEW. Even included a graphic with his name and title.— Preceding unsigned comment added by NicolasRSparrow ( talk • contribs)
The official aew site has added Awesome Kong to their website as of 6/5/2019. Also, is it necessary to mention Riho when she is just there for limited amount of dates? Why mention her and not the rest? The official aew site does not mention her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicolasRSparrow ( talk • contribs) 14:26, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
I think it would be better to classify Rafael Morfii as Backstage Personnel as opposed to Executive. He heads live events, and should be with other Head Department figures, like Shawn Carr, etc. Since his title is of Director of Live Events. Executives should be for the Khans, "Chief" positions, and EVP/VP's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicolasRSparrow ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
On the latest "Road to All Out" episode 3. It was mentioned by name and graphic for Megha Parekh (Correct spelling) was the AEW and Jacksonville Jaguars Chief Legal Officer. She should be added to the Corporate staff section, since she has "Chief" in her executive title.
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If someone could add Tommy Dreamer to the backstage section. He worked as a producer at All Out. Source: [1]. Also worked backstage at Double or Nothing so this is a reoccuring thing. I would do it, but can't at the moment. StaticVapor message me! 01:53, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Should we include records or not? AEW's official roster page lists singles, tag team, trios, and overall records for each wrestler on their website. They feature it on Dark, Dynamite, and their PPVs during their entrances and throughout the broadcast. Also, Tony Khan and the EVPs have stated AEW's commitment to placing an emphasis on making wins and losses matter.
From Cody Rhodes:
From Tony Khan:
If the consensus is to implement them, it should look like this:
Ring name | Real name | Records [3] | Notes | |||
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Singles | Tag team | Trios | Overall | |||
Adam Page | Stephen Woltz | 2-2 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 2-3 |
Originalchampion ( talk) 02:01, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
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Andy Williams currently directs to a band called Every Time I Die, Brandon Cutler for some reason redirects to AEW's Roster Wikipedia page (aka List of All Elite Wrestling personnel). - 2A02:C7F:C25A:A200:D12F:C74C:D530:ACA0 ( talk) 11:06, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Lexy Nair is linking to Diamond Dallas Page. That is definitely an incorrect link. - 2A02:C7F:C283:C100:D9D3:4AA4:7B19:7501 ( talk) 10:43, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
When Billy was last on AEW Dark, his name graphic just says "Billy", no "Gunn", and the announcers only refer to him as such. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Y_aRyfo_I and head to 50 secs in, and you'll see what I mean. IanPCP ( talk) 22:09, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Vjmlhds:On last night's Dark, Dustin came out with Brandi but QT brought out Allie. AEW's been running an angle with QT/Allie on the past couple of Darks, too IanPCP ( talk) 18:18, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Do you think we should include Rebel as other on-air personnel? She has been working on screen as Baker's assistant. Also, she is known as Rebel, not as Tanea Brooks. -- HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 17:16, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Why do we list Penelope Ford as Kip Sabian's manager, but not list Kip as Penelope's manager? They're both wrestlers, and both accompany the other when they have singles matches. Surely neither should be listed as a "manager"? You could probably say the same about Allie/QT and Brandi/Dustin too, especially if Allie and Brandi are going to be wrestling more (as a team) going forward; as implied on this week's Dark episode. IanPCP ( talk) 17:44, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
What happened to the List of AEW Alumni page? Before it was just Kylie Rae that was the only AEW Alumni but since then Tenile Dashwood, Jimmy Havoc, Sadie Gibbs and Bea Priestley have all became AEW Alumni as well. - 2A02:C7F:C283:C100:78AA:C57:A17D:CBA9 ( talk) 09:06, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
I second that. A small alumni list on this page would be a good idea. Stephen"Zap" ( talk) 14:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
His Twitter bio refers to him as wrestling for AEW, his website is listed as the AEW website, he refers to it as his "dream job" in tweets, and the official AEW shop website has a Luther/Serpentico t-shirt for sale. It's all a good sign he is now signed with AEW. Thoughts? IanPCP ( talk) 11:18, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Please leave Thunder Rosa on the list, as per the reference I provided (from the Wrestling Observer, which is considered a reliable source), Rosa has a "per date" deal with AEW
Put simply, that means that while she is contracted to the NWA, she also has a side deal going with AEW.
There's all kinds of different contracts...full time, part time, side deals...and it is documented that Thunder Rosa does have a "per date"/side deal contract with AEW.
Vjmlhds (talk) 13:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
I think we should delete the AAA Mega title. Usually, we list titles recognized and used by the promotion, like the NWA Women's or the RevPro titles in NJPW (they aren't defended, but at least the wrestlers appear with them). Omega hasn't been called AAA Mega champion in a while, he doesn't appear with the tirle and his last defense was on March 3, 2020 (6 months ago). There is no point to include the title anymore. -- HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 16:22, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Well, what do we have here...Omega just busted out the AAA Mega Title tonight on Dynamite to taunt the Lucha Bros. So that should settle that. Vjmlhds (talk) 02:13, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Should Anthony Ogogo be moved to the Broadcast Team section, as he's behind the desk on AEW Dark most weeks? IanPCP ( talk) 14:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I watch Dark every week and I don't recall this ever being mentioned. Which episodes has it been acknowledged on? IanPCP ( talk) 15:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Both Colten Gunn and Hook should be added to the list, as it should be clearly apparent at this point that both guys got set up with jobs in AEW to work with their respective fathers (Billy Gunn and Tazz).
Vjmlhds (talk) 15:33, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
I know there's some fuss over the little guy, and how he's listed, but let's just look at it this way...
AEW just signed him to a long term developmental contract.
Let's just leave it at that.
BTW...I removed the "unassigned" section, as that is really just a WWE thing because they have different brands, and it's for wrestlers who haven't been placed on a specific brand...doesn't really apply to AEW (or Impact or ROH or MLW, etc) since they don't do brands.
Vjmlhds (talk) 21:55, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Would he be better fit under Other on-air personnel as he has appeared on-air a few times now, cutting promos and such. - Originalchampion ( talk) 23:48, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Is he still with AEW? He was removed from the roster page on their website a month or two back and hasn't had a match since December. IanPCP ( talk) 00:36, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
And we had Spears, FTR, and Tully flashing the infamous 4 finger hand sign, indicating they are basically AEW's Horsemen. Vjmlhds (talk) 13:29, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Remove ivellise as shes not on a full time contract, theres no reason she should be there if Kilynn, diamante, gracia, tesha and other regular per appearance women are not. 2.24.5.246 ( talk) 19:15, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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I wouldnt say ivelise’s word is a “reliable source” per appearance deal would mean lots of regulars should he added? Diamante ect and definetaly Rosa at least.. shes had more tv time than ivelisse and is also per appreance. “She was also on a per appearance deal and not a full-time contract. This is despite her saying that she inked a deal with AEW in October 2020.” https://www.ringsidenews.com/2021/04/02/aew-not-using-star-due-to-backstage-heat-with-coaches/amp/ Cammyt2001 ( talk) 00:17, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
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So apparently my recent edits to the AEW personnel page by moving Rebel from the Female Wrestlers section to the Other on-air personnel section may have resulted in one very upset/annoyed user getting upset by seeing reason and resulted in the section without seeing the reason behind it.
So I will clarify why Rebel should be moved to the On-Air Personnel section and not be in the Female Wrestler section for this current moment in time. The argument for her to being in there, and I quote: 'She wrestles enough' is a completely flumsy and inaccurate 'argument' (if it can even be called that) to make. The woman has only wrestled two matches in her entire AEW run, and her last match being on the August 27th 2020 episode of AEW Dynamite. Well over seven months ago. Two matches with the last being 7 motnhs ago, is not 'enough'. That is laughable to think she should be added to the Female Wrestlers page based on that logic alone when she is not an active female wrestler for over seven months, not even having a current profile or ranking system on the AEW Roster page to back it up like a lot of the other women (minus Ivelisse) have who are officially signed.
And the user's argument against my counter argument was simply, 'Please stop.' So they didn't have an argument for my claim as to why Rebel should not be in the Female Wrestlers section, simply that they lost the argument and they somehow have more power on different wrestling themed wikipedia pages to make incorrect decisions like this and lock down people from making edits to pages.
Due to indirectly mentioning them on here, I will likely get claimed with a warning or worse for calling them out for making these decisions, and they have every right do to so, even though I think that would unfair for them to do that since I truly don't understand how what I said said (apart from talking about them in the open like this) is wrong in any way. So I will most likely get a claim by whoever has power editing these pages (if it isn't that user that is), even when they see the reasoning to not have Rebel in the Female Wrestlers section and putting her in the Other On-Air Personnel section. As all of the reason to have her on that section is completely inconsequential.
I am aware my behavior in this matter may seem volotile, and for this I apologise to anyone else who sees this as such. However the fact this user is able to constantly make incorret edits to wrestling themes pages such as the AEW Personnel section without providing substancial evidence is an abuse of power, it's that simple. Especially when the 'evidence' they used in insufficiant and doesn't hold enough grounds for the edits they make.
Also a seperate point not about the one mentioned above, but someone recently brought up removing Ivelisse from the Female Wrestlers section and I will have to agree with them slightly. While I can see why a lot of people would want to keep her there since Ivelisse herself confirmed she is signed with AEW, AEW themselves have yet to even acknowledge her comments, and that is more telling on her status in the company than anything else. Literally anyone who competes on AEW Dark & AEW Dark Elevation can say they are signed with AEW and people can believe them, but that doesn't make it true. To take two more recent female signees, Leyla Hirsch and Red Velvet were rumoured to be signed with the company months ago, but it was until their recent 'is All Elite' social media posts where it was made officially by Tony Khan, Cody Rhodes or other official parties who are signed with the company providing them with that all confirming 'is All Elite' banner. By this logic, people can just as easily add in any of the talent that has wrestled for AEW Dark and AEW Dark Elevation and say they are signed (including the talent themselves) without an official confirmation by the company or any of the heads in charge and just as easily believe them.
While an 'is All Elite' isn't always 100% confirmation for all the talents in the company, it still is for a good 90% of them at the bare minumum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StarStingster ( talk • contribs) 14:54, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
We need everyone whos on per apperance or nobody. U fair to have ivelisse and not the others. Everyone else is officially signed (even if theyve not been on tv in forever) we can’t use rumours of signings or take talent’s word, especially known trouble makers and difficult to work with like ivelisse Cammyt2001 ( talk) 20:57, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Seems Ivelisse is done with AEW:
Should we update her article or wait for the official confirmation by AEW? Wario-Man talk 02:14, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if we can have a section for freelancers and wrestlers special circumstances that are raked for titles or appear on multiple episodes of Dynamite? (e.g. Thunder Rosa, Danny Limelight, the Varsity Blondes)( BackLash ( talk) 18:14, 8 June 2021 (UTC))
Ok ( BackLash ( talk) 23:19, 8 June 2021 (UTC))
I know nothing about wrestling, but I gather Sandra Gray is the costume director/maker for the show. I don't know enough to know whether or not this is worth putting into the article, or even under what category, but it is very confusing having a redirect where the name being searched isn't even to be found on the target page. Rather than immediately flag the Sandra Gray redirect for deletion discussion, I wanted to mention it here so that someone has the opportunity to incorporate it into the page if relevant, and if she isn't valid to mention here, then the redirect itself seems rather pointless. Thank you so much for your attention. Mabalu ( talk) 17:18, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
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Prior to 4 October 2022, this page listed the individual Abadon (wrestler) under "female wrestlers" and the individual Sonny Kiss under "male wrestlers" ( link). Per their individual biography pages, Abadon self-identifies as non-binary and uses "they/them" pronouns, while Sonny Kiss identifies as genderfluid and uses both "he/his" and "she/her" pronouns. My reading of MOS:GENDERID is that referring to Kiss as a male and to Abadon as a female on this page is contrary to the policy. Accordingly, I changed the page to list Abadon and Sonny Kiss under "non-binary wrestlers" ( link). However, my edit was reverted. I would be grateful for views from the community on the correct course of action. McPhail ( talk) 21:15, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
VJ included Sonjay as a wrestler, since JJ is now Jay Lethal's manager. He is not a wrestler. Last year Dutt was signed as producer. His main work is producer, not wrestler. Since 2017, he had one match. Including him as wrestler "just in case he return" it's WP:CRYSTALBALL. There is no signs of him becoming a full time wrestler or resuming his carrer. The one match he had it's an special ocasion, just like many others had in pro wrestling (Tully Blanchard, Jim Ross, Eric Bischoff). HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 08:25, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
Do we have any sources that both Kiera Hogan and William Regal have left AEW/stopped being on air characters? IanPCP ( talk) 11:28, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Things change, people come and go, roles get adjusted, and stuff happens. Can't be married to what was when it isn't now what is. Vjmlhds (talk) 03:23, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Is there a source that indicates these three are CURRENTLY signed with AEW? Bronson and Boulder have been regularly working ROH, so it's likely they are signed; but Cole Karter doesn't seem to have appeared for AEW or ROH in months. IanPCP ( talk) 15:24, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Analogical to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of former Ring of Honor personnel and similar, lists of former personnel are bad idea. They require pointless updates, the split stuff for no good reason, and are often non-encyclopedic (failing NLIST, as such lists do not exist in reliable sources). Readers want to see one list, not 2+ sublists. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
As far as I can see, Sting is still employed to AEW.
Should we still have him on the list but list him as "inactive; retired"?
Sting did say he could take a future backstage position or he could become an ambassador, but I still think he should be on the list since he is a contracted individual to AEW despite being retired. Lemonademan22 ( talk) 20:27, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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Here is his LinkedIn page. Someone like to add him?
https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-glenn/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicolasRSparrow ( talk • contribs) 22:34, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
done ItChEE40 ( talk) 01:04, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Does this sound like good criteria for listing someone on the roster page?
For office staff, it's likely going to be a credible media report that person is working for AEW. Froo ( talk) 13:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
In the most recent Road to Double or Nothing videos and the latest ITV special on AEW has Michael Cuellari listed as Associate Producer under his name...not Coordinator. He was listed as Coordinator in the first two episodes, but has since been renamed.— Preceding unsigned comment added by NicolasRSparrow ( talk • contribs)
In the latest Being The Elite, they announced Shawn Carr is the Head of Ring Crew for AEW. Even included a graphic with his name and title.— Preceding unsigned comment added by NicolasRSparrow ( talk • contribs)
The official aew site has added Awesome Kong to their website as of 6/5/2019. Also, is it necessary to mention Riho when she is just there for limited amount of dates? Why mention her and not the rest? The official aew site does not mention her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicolasRSparrow ( talk • contribs) 14:26, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
I think it would be better to classify Rafael Morfii as Backstage Personnel as opposed to Executive. He heads live events, and should be with other Head Department figures, like Shawn Carr, etc. Since his title is of Director of Live Events. Executives should be for the Khans, "Chief" positions, and EVP/VP's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicolasRSparrow ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
On the latest "Road to All Out" episode 3. It was mentioned by name and graphic for Megha Parekh (Correct spelling) was the AEW and Jacksonville Jaguars Chief Legal Officer. She should be added to the Corporate staff section, since she has "Chief" in her executive title.
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If someone could add Tommy Dreamer to the backstage section. He worked as a producer at All Out. Source: [1]. Also worked backstage at Double or Nothing so this is a reoccuring thing. I would do it, but can't at the moment. StaticVapor message me! 01:53, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Should we include records or not? AEW's official roster page lists singles, tag team, trios, and overall records for each wrestler on their website. They feature it on Dark, Dynamite, and their PPVs during their entrances and throughout the broadcast. Also, Tony Khan and the EVPs have stated AEW's commitment to placing an emphasis on making wins and losses matter.
From Cody Rhodes:
From Tony Khan:
If the consensus is to implement them, it should look like this:
Ring name | Real name | Records [3] | Notes | |||
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Singles | Tag team | Trios | Overall | |||
Adam Page | Stephen Woltz | 2-2 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 2-3 |
Originalchampion ( talk) 02:01, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
References
Andy Williams currently directs to a band called Every Time I Die, Brandon Cutler for some reason redirects to AEW's Roster Wikipedia page (aka List of All Elite Wrestling personnel). - 2A02:C7F:C25A:A200:D12F:C74C:D530:ACA0 ( talk) 11:06, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Lexy Nair is linking to Diamond Dallas Page. That is definitely an incorrect link. - 2A02:C7F:C283:C100:D9D3:4AA4:7B19:7501 ( talk) 10:43, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
When Billy was last on AEW Dark, his name graphic just says "Billy", no "Gunn", and the announcers only refer to him as such. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Y_aRyfo_I and head to 50 secs in, and you'll see what I mean. IanPCP ( talk) 22:09, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Vjmlhds:On last night's Dark, Dustin came out with Brandi but QT brought out Allie. AEW's been running an angle with QT/Allie on the past couple of Darks, too IanPCP ( talk) 18:18, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Do you think we should include Rebel as other on-air personnel? She has been working on screen as Baker's assistant. Also, she is known as Rebel, not as Tanea Brooks. -- HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 17:16, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Why do we list Penelope Ford as Kip Sabian's manager, but not list Kip as Penelope's manager? They're both wrestlers, and both accompany the other when they have singles matches. Surely neither should be listed as a "manager"? You could probably say the same about Allie/QT and Brandi/Dustin too, especially if Allie and Brandi are going to be wrestling more (as a team) going forward; as implied on this week's Dark episode. IanPCP ( talk) 17:44, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
What happened to the List of AEW Alumni page? Before it was just Kylie Rae that was the only AEW Alumni but since then Tenile Dashwood, Jimmy Havoc, Sadie Gibbs and Bea Priestley have all became AEW Alumni as well. - 2A02:C7F:C283:C100:78AA:C57:A17D:CBA9 ( talk) 09:06, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
I second that. A small alumni list on this page would be a good idea. Stephen"Zap" ( talk) 14:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
His Twitter bio refers to him as wrestling for AEW, his website is listed as the AEW website, he refers to it as his "dream job" in tweets, and the official AEW shop website has a Luther/Serpentico t-shirt for sale. It's all a good sign he is now signed with AEW. Thoughts? IanPCP ( talk) 11:18, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Please leave Thunder Rosa on the list, as per the reference I provided (from the Wrestling Observer, which is considered a reliable source), Rosa has a "per date" deal with AEW
Put simply, that means that while she is contracted to the NWA, she also has a side deal going with AEW.
There's all kinds of different contracts...full time, part time, side deals...and it is documented that Thunder Rosa does have a "per date"/side deal contract with AEW.
Vjmlhds (talk) 13:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
I think we should delete the AAA Mega title. Usually, we list titles recognized and used by the promotion, like the NWA Women's or the RevPro titles in NJPW (they aren't defended, but at least the wrestlers appear with them). Omega hasn't been called AAA Mega champion in a while, he doesn't appear with the tirle and his last defense was on March 3, 2020 (6 months ago). There is no point to include the title anymore. -- HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 16:22, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Well, what do we have here...Omega just busted out the AAA Mega Title tonight on Dynamite to taunt the Lucha Bros. So that should settle that. Vjmlhds (talk) 02:13, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Should Anthony Ogogo be moved to the Broadcast Team section, as he's behind the desk on AEW Dark most weeks? IanPCP ( talk) 14:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I watch Dark every week and I don't recall this ever being mentioned. Which episodes has it been acknowledged on? IanPCP ( talk) 15:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Both Colten Gunn and Hook should be added to the list, as it should be clearly apparent at this point that both guys got set up with jobs in AEW to work with their respective fathers (Billy Gunn and Tazz).
Vjmlhds (talk) 15:33, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
I know there's some fuss over the little guy, and how he's listed, but let's just look at it this way...
AEW just signed him to a long term developmental contract.
Let's just leave it at that.
BTW...I removed the "unassigned" section, as that is really just a WWE thing because they have different brands, and it's for wrestlers who haven't been placed on a specific brand...doesn't really apply to AEW (or Impact or ROH or MLW, etc) since they don't do brands.
Vjmlhds (talk) 21:55, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Would he be better fit under Other on-air personnel as he has appeared on-air a few times now, cutting promos and such. - Originalchampion ( talk) 23:48, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Is he still with AEW? He was removed from the roster page on their website a month or two back and hasn't had a match since December. IanPCP ( talk) 00:36, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
And we had Spears, FTR, and Tully flashing the infamous 4 finger hand sign, indicating they are basically AEW's Horsemen. Vjmlhds (talk) 13:29, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Remove ivellise as shes not on a full time contract, theres no reason she should be there if Kilynn, diamante, gracia, tesha and other regular per appearance women are not. 2.24.5.246 ( talk) 19:15, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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I wouldnt say ivelise’s word is a “reliable source” per appearance deal would mean lots of regulars should he added? Diamante ect and definetaly Rosa at least.. shes had more tv time than ivelisse and is also per appreance. “She was also on a per appearance deal and not a full-time contract. This is despite her saying that she inked a deal with AEW in October 2020.” https://www.ringsidenews.com/2021/04/02/aew-not-using-star-due-to-backstage-heat-with-coaches/amp/ Cammyt2001 ( talk) 00:17, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
C Cammyt2001 ( talk) 00:21, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
So apparently my recent edits to the AEW personnel page by moving Rebel from the Female Wrestlers section to the Other on-air personnel section may have resulted in one very upset/annoyed user getting upset by seeing reason and resulted in the section without seeing the reason behind it.
So I will clarify why Rebel should be moved to the On-Air Personnel section and not be in the Female Wrestler section for this current moment in time. The argument for her to being in there, and I quote: 'She wrestles enough' is a completely flumsy and inaccurate 'argument' (if it can even be called that) to make. The woman has only wrestled two matches in her entire AEW run, and her last match being on the August 27th 2020 episode of AEW Dynamite. Well over seven months ago. Two matches with the last being 7 motnhs ago, is not 'enough'. That is laughable to think she should be added to the Female Wrestlers page based on that logic alone when she is not an active female wrestler for over seven months, not even having a current profile or ranking system on the AEW Roster page to back it up like a lot of the other women (minus Ivelisse) have who are officially signed.
And the user's argument against my counter argument was simply, 'Please stop.' So they didn't have an argument for my claim as to why Rebel should not be in the Female Wrestlers section, simply that they lost the argument and they somehow have more power on different wrestling themed wikipedia pages to make incorrect decisions like this and lock down people from making edits to pages.
Due to indirectly mentioning them on here, I will likely get claimed with a warning or worse for calling them out for making these decisions, and they have every right do to so, even though I think that would unfair for them to do that since I truly don't understand how what I said said (apart from talking about them in the open like this) is wrong in any way. So I will most likely get a claim by whoever has power editing these pages (if it isn't that user that is), even when they see the reasoning to not have Rebel in the Female Wrestlers section and putting her in the Other On-Air Personnel section. As all of the reason to have her on that section is completely inconsequential.
I am aware my behavior in this matter may seem volotile, and for this I apologise to anyone else who sees this as such. However the fact this user is able to constantly make incorret edits to wrestling themes pages such as the AEW Personnel section without providing substancial evidence is an abuse of power, it's that simple. Especially when the 'evidence' they used in insufficiant and doesn't hold enough grounds for the edits they make.
Also a seperate point not about the one mentioned above, but someone recently brought up removing Ivelisse from the Female Wrestlers section and I will have to agree with them slightly. While I can see why a lot of people would want to keep her there since Ivelisse herself confirmed she is signed with AEW, AEW themselves have yet to even acknowledge her comments, and that is more telling on her status in the company than anything else. Literally anyone who competes on AEW Dark & AEW Dark Elevation can say they are signed with AEW and people can believe them, but that doesn't make it true. To take two more recent female signees, Leyla Hirsch and Red Velvet were rumoured to be signed with the company months ago, but it was until their recent 'is All Elite' social media posts where it was made officially by Tony Khan, Cody Rhodes or other official parties who are signed with the company providing them with that all confirming 'is All Elite' banner. By this logic, people can just as easily add in any of the talent that has wrestled for AEW Dark and AEW Dark Elevation and say they are signed (including the talent themselves) without an official confirmation by the company or any of the heads in charge and just as easily believe them.
While an 'is All Elite' isn't always 100% confirmation for all the talents in the company, it still is for a good 90% of them at the bare minumum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StarStingster ( talk • contribs) 14:54, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
We need everyone whos on per apperance or nobody. U fair to have ivelisse and not the others. Everyone else is officially signed (even if theyve not been on tv in forever) we can’t use rumours of signings or take talent’s word, especially known trouble makers and difficult to work with like ivelisse Cammyt2001 ( talk) 20:57, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Seems Ivelisse is done with AEW:
Should we update her article or wait for the official confirmation by AEW? Wario-Man talk 02:14, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if we can have a section for freelancers and wrestlers special circumstances that are raked for titles or appear on multiple episodes of Dynamite? (e.g. Thunder Rosa, Danny Limelight, the Varsity Blondes)( BackLash ( talk) 18:14, 8 June 2021 (UTC))
Ok ( BackLash ( talk) 23:19, 8 June 2021 (UTC))
I know nothing about wrestling, but I gather Sandra Gray is the costume director/maker for the show. I don't know enough to know whether or not this is worth putting into the article, or even under what category, but it is very confusing having a redirect where the name being searched isn't even to be found on the target page. Rather than immediately flag the Sandra Gray redirect for deletion discussion, I wanted to mention it here so that someone has the opportunity to incorporate it into the page if relevant, and if she isn't valid to mention here, then the redirect itself seems rather pointless. Thank you so much for your attention. Mabalu ( talk) 17:18, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
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Prior to 4 October 2022, this page listed the individual Abadon (wrestler) under "female wrestlers" and the individual Sonny Kiss under "male wrestlers" ( link). Per their individual biography pages, Abadon self-identifies as non-binary and uses "they/them" pronouns, while Sonny Kiss identifies as genderfluid and uses both "he/his" and "she/her" pronouns. My reading of MOS:GENDERID is that referring to Kiss as a male and to Abadon as a female on this page is contrary to the policy. Accordingly, I changed the page to list Abadon and Sonny Kiss under "non-binary wrestlers" ( link). However, my edit was reverted. I would be grateful for views from the community on the correct course of action. McPhail ( talk) 21:15, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
VJ included Sonjay as a wrestler, since JJ is now Jay Lethal's manager. He is not a wrestler. Last year Dutt was signed as producer. His main work is producer, not wrestler. Since 2017, he had one match. Including him as wrestler "just in case he return" it's WP:CRYSTALBALL. There is no signs of him becoming a full time wrestler or resuming his carrer. The one match he had it's an special ocasion, just like many others had in pro wrestling (Tully Blanchard, Jim Ross, Eric Bischoff). HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 08:25, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
Do we have any sources that both Kiera Hogan and William Regal have left AEW/stopped being on air characters? IanPCP ( talk) 11:28, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Things change, people come and go, roles get adjusted, and stuff happens. Can't be married to what was when it isn't now what is. Vjmlhds (talk) 03:23, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Is there a source that indicates these three are CURRENTLY signed with AEW? Bronson and Boulder have been regularly working ROH, so it's likely they are signed; but Cole Karter doesn't seem to have appeared for AEW or ROH in months. IanPCP ( talk) 15:24, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Analogical to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of former Ring of Honor personnel and similar, lists of former personnel are bad idea. They require pointless updates, the split stuff for no good reason, and are often non-encyclopedic (failing NLIST, as such lists do not exist in reliable sources). Readers want to see one list, not 2+ sublists. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
As far as I can see, Sting is still employed to AEW.
Should we still have him on the list but list him as "inactive; retired"?
Sting did say he could take a future backstage position or he could become an ambassador, but I still think he should be on the list since he is a contracted individual to AEW despite being retired. Lemonademan22 ( talk) 20:27, 11 March 2024 (UTC)