The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that
BTS's Japanese single "Lights" surpassed one million pre-orders in Japan and broke the 24-year-old record of
Celine Dion's 1995 single "
To Love You More"?
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ALT1:... that
BTS's Japanese single "Lights" surpassed one million pre-orders in Japan and broke the 24-year old record of
Celine Dion's 1995 single "
To Love You More"?
[4]
ALT2:... that the
music video for
BTS's Japanese single "Lights" explores "the concept of time and space"?
[5]
Hi,
Ashleyyoursmile. You have 3 DYK credits to date and two more of your nominations have been approved and are waiting to be promoted. Please provide a QPQ for this one. Thanks,
Yoninah (
talk) 18:50, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Thank you. Ready for review.
Yoninah (
talk) 06:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi again,
Ashleyyoursmile. 5x expanded from 2 July, earwig's ok, the third source of the hook and ALT1's source are in Korean and Japanese respectively but are accepted in good faith. All three are interesting, but as someone who's not a BTS fan (sorry not sorry), I like ALT1 the most. Ready to go.
Corachow (
talk) 14:18, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Questions on recent expansion of page
Ashleyyoursmile the last sentence of the lede sounds sort of incomplete to me. Maybe you should include what Lights was awarded at the JGDA? It could be amended to read '...was awarded as one of the top 5 singles of the year at the 2020 Japan Gold Disc Awards (you left out the 's'). and moved to the end of the 2nd p'graph instead since that details how well it performed. The award would be a good cap on that. I can't add comments as part of the review so putting them here instead.
Carlobunnie (
talk) 01:14, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Carlobunnie:, I agree and was thinking of re-writing that part. I will go ahead to make that change like you suggested. Thank you. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 04:42, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
One more tiny thing. In the lede, I think this sentence: "The lyrics are uplifting and find BTS calling out themselves and the listeners as each others' lights" needs rewording. Calling out someone (or oneself) means to hold them accountable for usually bad/wrong/negative actions, or criticism basically. I adjusted the initial mention in the BG+R section after your first set of improvement edits yesterday, but Idk if having it verbatim in the lede is good or not so I didn't adjust it there. Maybe it could read as 'and feature BTS singing about themselves and the listener as each other's lights' or something along that vein. --
Carlobunnie (
talk) 18:13, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Yeah it was reading weird. I adjusted it and I think its looking better this way.--
Ashleyyoursmile! 19:39, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Carlobunnie, This sentence At one point, the projector light scatters into tiny light particles, and then cuts to show Suga rapping and staring at some lights, has the word "lights" repeated three times, which is obviously reading weird. Do you think you can rephrase it, because I'm a bit unsure how it. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 05:03, 4 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I think it reads a bit better now. Where's a thesaurus when you need it 😂 --
Carlobunnie (
talk) 06:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Carlobunnie, Many thanks! It does read much better now. I was literally running out of synonyms here lol. If you think that the other sections could do better with some copy-editing, please feel free to do that, I am grateful your time and help. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 07:15, 4 July 2020 (UTC)reply
GA Review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Kyle Peake, Good to work with you again, thank you for taking up this review! I shall address the comments now. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 17:55, 14 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Infobox and lead
Why is there no referencing of the B-side in the infobox?
"crossed one million copies" → "crossed 1,000,000 copies"
Done
The claim that this was the first time a foreign artist achieved a million shipments is false, since it is the first time Dion 24 years ago; reword accordingly
Done changed "foreign" to "Korean"
"maintained its number one spot" → "remained at number one on"
Done
Are you sure they are "copies" or "physical copies"? Don't change if the latter is indeed correct...
Done Yes, kept it as it is
Remove target on Oricon Weekly Singles Chart
Done
"on the chart issue dated" → "for the chart issue dated"
Done
[19] should solely be at the end of the sentence before [20][21]
Done
"At year end," → "For the year end chart,"
Done
"the
Japan Hot 100- a chart operated by Billboard magazine- on" → "the BillboardJapan Hot 100 for the chart issue date of"
Done
Mention how many places it rose by maybe?
Done mentioned that
"of July 22," → "of July 22, 2019."
Done
"before dropping to number 16..." remove this and [26] since it is violating
WP:CHARTS
Yes, well spotted of you. --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 05:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
""
A Thousand Winds". It was the band's first million certification" → ""
A Thousand Winds"; it was the first time the band attained the certification"
Done
Keep the target the same but rename the chart to US World Digital Songs
Done
Wikilink should be on the
record chart part of the words instead, but don't change the actual prose
Citations regarding the digital release of "Lights / Boy with Luv" by BTS in various countries → Citations regarding the digital release of "Lights / Boy with Luv" by BTS in various countries: on ref 9, plus some of the citations for foreign languages are not titled appropriately so fix that
Done but couldn't find anything wrong with the foreign language titles
Take the Japanese citation being titled "Lights / Boy with Luv – Single by BTS" for example, since it is actually
titled elsewise; there are others to fix too --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 05:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Lights/Boy with Luv Cumulative sales: → "Lights / Boy with Luv" Cumulative sales: on ref 21
Done
Cite Oricon News as publisher instead for ref 31
Done
Celebmix → CelebMix on ref 40
Done
External links
Good
Final comments and verdict
On hold but sorry about the delayed response. --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 14:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Kyle Peake, I have left a few comments above and have addressed the rest per your suggestion. Let me know if anything else needs to be added / fixed. Thank you so much for reviewing this. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 17:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
DEEPPINK I did some copyediting but some issues still need fixing, which instructions will be provided for above. Also, only the refs should be centered in the release history table, plus are you sure hlist can't be replaced with bullet points under Track listings? --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 05:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: I have centered the references. Not sure if comma could act as a substitute for hlist? I'm a bit wary of bullet points here. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 07:40, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Final comments and verdict
On hold but sorry about the delayed response. --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 14:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Kyle Peake, I have left a few comments above and have addressed the rest per your suggestion. Let me know if anything else needs to be added / fixed. Thank you so much for reviewing this. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 17:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Ashleyyoursmile I did some copyediting but some issues still need fixing, which instructions will be provided for above. Also, only the refs should be centered in the release history table, plus are you sure hlist can't be replaced with bullet points under Track listings? --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 05:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: I have centered the references. Not sure if comma could act as a substitute for hlist? I'm a bit wary of bullet points here. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 07:40, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Ashleyyoursmile: No it is fine, you can keep as not bullet point since that isn't an infobox; I have fixed the titles and listed instructions in my revision for future reference. ✓Pass now, congrats on the quick and professional response! --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 09:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that
BTS's Japanese single "Lights" surpassed one million pre-orders in Japan and broke the 24-year-old record of
Celine Dion's 1995 single "
To Love You More"?
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
ALT1:... that
BTS's Japanese single "Lights" surpassed one million pre-orders in Japan and broke the 24-year old record of
Celine Dion's 1995 single "
To Love You More"?
[4]
ALT2:... that the
music video for
BTS's Japanese single "Lights" explores "the concept of time and space"?
[5]
Hi,
Ashleyyoursmile. You have 3 DYK credits to date and two more of your nominations have been approved and are waiting to be promoted. Please provide a QPQ for this one. Thanks,
Yoninah (
talk) 18:50, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Thank you. Ready for review.
Yoninah (
talk) 06:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi again,
Ashleyyoursmile. 5x expanded from 2 July, earwig's ok, the third source of the hook and ALT1's source are in Korean and Japanese respectively but are accepted in good faith. All three are interesting, but as someone who's not a BTS fan (sorry not sorry), I like ALT1 the most. Ready to go.
Corachow (
talk) 14:18, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Questions on recent expansion of page
Ashleyyoursmile the last sentence of the lede sounds sort of incomplete to me. Maybe you should include what Lights was awarded at the JGDA? It could be amended to read '...was awarded as one of the top 5 singles of the year at the 2020 Japan Gold Disc Awards (you left out the 's'). and moved to the end of the 2nd p'graph instead since that details how well it performed. The award would be a good cap on that. I can't add comments as part of the review so putting them here instead.
Carlobunnie (
talk) 01:14, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Carlobunnie:, I agree and was thinking of re-writing that part. I will go ahead to make that change like you suggested. Thank you. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 04:42, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
One more tiny thing. In the lede, I think this sentence: "The lyrics are uplifting and find BTS calling out themselves and the listeners as each others' lights" needs rewording. Calling out someone (or oneself) means to hold them accountable for usually bad/wrong/negative actions, or criticism basically. I adjusted the initial mention in the BG+R section after your first set of improvement edits yesterday, but Idk if having it verbatim in the lede is good or not so I didn't adjust it there. Maybe it could read as 'and feature BTS singing about themselves and the listener as each other's lights' or something along that vein. --
Carlobunnie (
talk) 18:13, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Yeah it was reading weird. I adjusted it and I think its looking better this way.--
Ashleyyoursmile! 19:39, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Carlobunnie, This sentence At one point, the projector light scatters into tiny light particles, and then cuts to show Suga rapping and staring at some lights, has the word "lights" repeated three times, which is obviously reading weird. Do you think you can rephrase it, because I'm a bit unsure how it. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 05:03, 4 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I think it reads a bit better now. Where's a thesaurus when you need it 😂 --
Carlobunnie (
talk) 06:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Carlobunnie, Many thanks! It does read much better now. I was literally running out of synonyms here lol. If you think that the other sections could do better with some copy-editing, please feel free to do that, I am grateful your time and help. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 07:15, 4 July 2020 (UTC)reply
GA Review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Kyle Peake, Good to work with you again, thank you for taking up this review! I shall address the comments now. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 17:55, 14 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Infobox and lead
Why is there no referencing of the B-side in the infobox?
"crossed one million copies" → "crossed 1,000,000 copies"
Done
The claim that this was the first time a foreign artist achieved a million shipments is false, since it is the first time Dion 24 years ago; reword accordingly
Done changed "foreign" to "Korean"
"maintained its number one spot" → "remained at number one on"
Done
Are you sure they are "copies" or "physical copies"? Don't change if the latter is indeed correct...
Done Yes, kept it as it is
Remove target on Oricon Weekly Singles Chart
Done
"on the chart issue dated" → "for the chart issue dated"
Done
[19] should solely be at the end of the sentence before [20][21]
Done
"At year end," → "For the year end chart,"
Done
"the
Japan Hot 100- a chart operated by Billboard magazine- on" → "the BillboardJapan Hot 100 for the chart issue date of"
Done
Mention how many places it rose by maybe?
Done mentioned that
"of July 22," → "of July 22, 2019."
Done
"before dropping to number 16..." remove this and [26] since it is violating
WP:CHARTS
Yes, well spotted of you. --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 05:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
""
A Thousand Winds". It was the band's first million certification" → ""
A Thousand Winds"; it was the first time the band attained the certification"
Done
Keep the target the same but rename the chart to US World Digital Songs
Done
Wikilink should be on the
record chart part of the words instead, but don't change the actual prose
Citations regarding the digital release of "Lights / Boy with Luv" by BTS in various countries → Citations regarding the digital release of "Lights / Boy with Luv" by BTS in various countries: on ref 9, plus some of the citations for foreign languages are not titled appropriately so fix that
Done but couldn't find anything wrong with the foreign language titles
Take the Japanese citation being titled "Lights / Boy with Luv – Single by BTS" for example, since it is actually
titled elsewise; there are others to fix too --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 05:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Lights/Boy with Luv Cumulative sales: → "Lights / Boy with Luv" Cumulative sales: on ref 21
Done
Cite Oricon News as publisher instead for ref 31
Done
Celebmix → CelebMix on ref 40
Done
External links
Good
Final comments and verdict
On hold but sorry about the delayed response. --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 14:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Kyle Peake, I have left a few comments above and have addressed the rest per your suggestion. Let me know if anything else needs to be added / fixed. Thank you so much for reviewing this. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 17:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
DEEPPINK I did some copyediting but some issues still need fixing, which instructions will be provided for above. Also, only the refs should be centered in the release history table, plus are you sure hlist can't be replaced with bullet points under Track listings? --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 05:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: I have centered the references. Not sure if comma could act as a substitute for hlist? I'm a bit wary of bullet points here. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 07:40, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Final comments and verdict
On hold but sorry about the delayed response. --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 14:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Kyle Peake, I have left a few comments above and have addressed the rest per your suggestion. Let me know if anything else needs to be added / fixed. Thank you so much for reviewing this. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 17:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Ashleyyoursmile I did some copyediting but some issues still need fixing, which instructions will be provided for above. Also, only the refs should be centered in the release history table, plus are you sure hlist can't be replaced with bullet points under Track listings? --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 05:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: I have centered the references. Not sure if comma could act as a substitute for hlist? I'm a bit wary of bullet points here. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 07:40, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Ashleyyoursmile: No it is fine, you can keep as not bullet point since that isn't an infobox; I have fixed the titles and listed instructions in my revision for future reference. ✓Pass now, congrats on the quick and professional response! --
Kyle Peake (
talk) 09:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.