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Not just on this page, but on several other pages, numerous editing has been done to the word Kraken so that it is instead spelt kraken. Just to clarify, the word is supposed to be capitalised, so please leave it as such. Thank you. Dac 13:28, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I did not immediately see the discussions regarding capitalizing Kraken (I'm still finding my way around here). I was under the impression that since it is not a proper name, it should not be capitalized. I've checked other sources and it is often capitalized, so that is the style I will follow. However, the Wikipedia style guide states that mythological creatures should not be capitalized. PNW Raven 00:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know how it's referred to in the Disney PotC Guide character guide book (or whaterver it's called). I think that should be the determining factor. PNW Raven 19:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
The primary reason this article should not be merged is that it would overtake the mythical Kraken article if it remains in this general form. The mythical article should be reserved for information based solely on the mythical creature. This one is based on a "character" from a movie, and, much like other character pages, it should remain as that, a character page. Also, it is about a specific Kraken, not Krakens in general. If merged, it would become a subnote in a cultural references section, as opposed to providing information specifically on THIS Kraken which plays a major role in the movie(s). I have deleted the suggestion for a merge bar for now. -- pIrish 23:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm all for having the Kraken article incorporated into the Minor Characters list. Scanning over article, some of the content is doing little more than describing every instance in which the Kraken, or something associated with it, appeared in the films. E.g. In other media, someone felt the need to state that at one point during their swordfight aboard the Dutchman, Jack & Davy Jones fight it out on the 'Kraken Hammer'; what relevance does this have in encyclopedial article? -- 80.4.201.125 00:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I just watched the POC:Dead Man's Chest DVD, and the fourth ship that is seen run aground, does not appear to be the fishing vessel. (Under the section describing the different ships that were attacked by the Kraken, the writer speculated that it may be the fishing vessel.) On each ship, the placement of the masts are different, and the crew on the fishing vessel are Turkish. The crew of the wrecked ship are British. This is trivia, but according to the DVD commentary, the wrecked vessel was actually the same ship that was used for the Edinburgh Trader. They (obviously) filmed the attack on the Edinburgh Trader first, breaking it in half, then used the two wrecked halves for the ship wreck scene. PNW Raven 01:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
The first two ships were destroyed, but the Pearl, it looked like the ship was pulled under water, completly intact (or at least still is almost in one piece). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DJD23 ( talk • contribs) 17:18, 15 December 2006 (UTC).
I'm fairly sure the first ship destroyed was Portuguese, not Turkish. Anyone want to comment? If not I'll change that. Witchbaby 09:02, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
The Kraken does not look like a giant deformed octopus. It's appearance resembles a squid. Both are cephalopods. An octopus has a softer and rounder body, more like a pouch or sack. It has eight, partially webbed arms that can spread outward from the body. A squid has a long torpedo-shaped body, a firmer mantle, and stiffer and more numerious tentacles that project forward from the head and that are shorter than an octopus' in relationship to its body size. Another difference, a squid's suckers are ringed with teeth-like spikes, like the Kraken. An octopus' suckers do not have these. Please look at pictures of an octopus and a squid and compare them to the Kraken illustration in the Pirates of the Caribbean: A Visual Guide and you'll see that it looks more like a squid. The Kraken legend is believed to have come from early sailors who may have seen giant squid at sea. Giant squid are estimated to reach up to 30-40 ft. in length. The Humbolt squid are 4-5 ft. in length, and are quite agressive. Octopus are shy and hide in intertidal rocky substrates. Squid live in open water, are fast moving, and travel in large schools. It would be more likely that sailors observed large squid than octopus. I have worked with invetebrates at an aquarium, and the Kraken is definitely squid-like. I'm also unaware of cephalopod suckers being called "sucker caps." PNW Raven 21:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
No shit, Sherlock. But, scientifically speaking the tentacles are the two very long appendages squid have that end in "clubs." Arms are the appendages that do not end in these "clubs." However, as can be seen in the movie, the two very long appendages that the Kraken raises over the ship to finally crush the merchant ship do not have these "clubs", but since they are longer than the rest, it would be allowable to call these two, and only these two, tentacles. The rest are arms. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.79.23.111 ( talk • contribs).
Let's can the "No *$%#, Sherlock" sarcasm. The point is, the Kraken looks more like squid than an octopus. PNW Raven 16:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
^^ Which would have been more than sufficient, I'd say ;-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.142.84.8 ( talk) 19:35, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Just put the Pirates of the Caribbean A Visual Guide concept art of Kraken in the article and stated all the rights —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tutow ( talk • contribs) 04:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
And the circumstances surrounding it? There's a junior novelization out already? Hello? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.22.212.250 ( talk) 03:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC).
Seriously. Where was this information found? There's nothing in the article about POTC 3 to say that there is a junior novelization out. Little help?
It's mentioned that Jack wears a Kraken tooth on his bandana in the third film. Anyone got a picture of this, because all I see is the long bone that Johnny Depp claims was the shin bone of a reindeer. -- 70.162.221.121 02:16, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Where was that one image found of the Kraken dead on the beach in the World's ENd section of the article? I'm not saying that it is bad, or it needs to be cited, I just wanted to know where it came from and possibly that someone could enlarge the size. ManofSTEEL2772 June 5 2007 3:56 p.m.
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The Kraken's eye looks sad after it's dead, as though it's sad that Jones had to kill it. Should this be said? (The title's the way it is as a joke. Do not make it an arguement like above) Hjerpinig 16:50, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
No; there's really no significance to that. I agree that the Kraken looked sad, but I personally think it was made to look like that as some payback for all the destruction it caused in the last movie. The important part is that is showed Jack just how much Beckett is in control of the seas; even able to order Jones to kill that which was thought to be unkillable; that's already stated in the article.-Darknessofheart
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Not just on this page, but on several other pages, numerous editing has been done to the word Kraken so that it is instead spelt kraken. Just to clarify, the word is supposed to be capitalised, so please leave it as such. Thank you. Dac 13:28, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I did not immediately see the discussions regarding capitalizing Kraken (I'm still finding my way around here). I was under the impression that since it is not a proper name, it should not be capitalized. I've checked other sources and it is often capitalized, so that is the style I will follow. However, the Wikipedia style guide states that mythological creatures should not be capitalized. PNW Raven 00:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know how it's referred to in the Disney PotC Guide character guide book (or whaterver it's called). I think that should be the determining factor. PNW Raven 19:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
The primary reason this article should not be merged is that it would overtake the mythical Kraken article if it remains in this general form. The mythical article should be reserved for information based solely on the mythical creature. This one is based on a "character" from a movie, and, much like other character pages, it should remain as that, a character page. Also, it is about a specific Kraken, not Krakens in general. If merged, it would become a subnote in a cultural references section, as opposed to providing information specifically on THIS Kraken which plays a major role in the movie(s). I have deleted the suggestion for a merge bar for now. -- pIrish 23:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm all for having the Kraken article incorporated into the Minor Characters list. Scanning over article, some of the content is doing little more than describing every instance in which the Kraken, or something associated with it, appeared in the films. E.g. In other media, someone felt the need to state that at one point during their swordfight aboard the Dutchman, Jack & Davy Jones fight it out on the 'Kraken Hammer'; what relevance does this have in encyclopedial article? -- 80.4.201.125 00:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I just watched the POC:Dead Man's Chest DVD, and the fourth ship that is seen run aground, does not appear to be the fishing vessel. (Under the section describing the different ships that were attacked by the Kraken, the writer speculated that it may be the fishing vessel.) On each ship, the placement of the masts are different, and the crew on the fishing vessel are Turkish. The crew of the wrecked ship are British. This is trivia, but according to the DVD commentary, the wrecked vessel was actually the same ship that was used for the Edinburgh Trader. They (obviously) filmed the attack on the Edinburgh Trader first, breaking it in half, then used the two wrecked halves for the ship wreck scene. PNW Raven 01:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
The first two ships were destroyed, but the Pearl, it looked like the ship was pulled under water, completly intact (or at least still is almost in one piece). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DJD23 ( talk • contribs) 17:18, 15 December 2006 (UTC).
I'm fairly sure the first ship destroyed was Portuguese, not Turkish. Anyone want to comment? If not I'll change that. Witchbaby 09:02, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
The Kraken does not look like a giant deformed octopus. It's appearance resembles a squid. Both are cephalopods. An octopus has a softer and rounder body, more like a pouch or sack. It has eight, partially webbed arms that can spread outward from the body. A squid has a long torpedo-shaped body, a firmer mantle, and stiffer and more numerious tentacles that project forward from the head and that are shorter than an octopus' in relationship to its body size. Another difference, a squid's suckers are ringed with teeth-like spikes, like the Kraken. An octopus' suckers do not have these. Please look at pictures of an octopus and a squid and compare them to the Kraken illustration in the Pirates of the Caribbean: A Visual Guide and you'll see that it looks more like a squid. The Kraken legend is believed to have come from early sailors who may have seen giant squid at sea. Giant squid are estimated to reach up to 30-40 ft. in length. The Humbolt squid are 4-5 ft. in length, and are quite agressive. Octopus are shy and hide in intertidal rocky substrates. Squid live in open water, are fast moving, and travel in large schools. It would be more likely that sailors observed large squid than octopus. I have worked with invetebrates at an aquarium, and the Kraken is definitely squid-like. I'm also unaware of cephalopod suckers being called "sucker caps." PNW Raven 21:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
No shit, Sherlock. But, scientifically speaking the tentacles are the two very long appendages squid have that end in "clubs." Arms are the appendages that do not end in these "clubs." However, as can be seen in the movie, the two very long appendages that the Kraken raises over the ship to finally crush the merchant ship do not have these "clubs", but since they are longer than the rest, it would be allowable to call these two, and only these two, tentacles. The rest are arms. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.79.23.111 ( talk • contribs).
Let's can the "No *$%#, Sherlock" sarcasm. The point is, the Kraken looks more like squid than an octopus. PNW Raven 16:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
^^ Which would have been more than sufficient, I'd say ;-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.142.84.8 ( talk) 19:35, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Just put the Pirates of the Caribbean A Visual Guide concept art of Kraken in the article and stated all the rights —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tutow ( talk • contribs) 04:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
And the circumstances surrounding it? There's a junior novelization out already? Hello? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.22.212.250 ( talk) 03:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC).
Seriously. Where was this information found? There's nothing in the article about POTC 3 to say that there is a junior novelization out. Little help?
It's mentioned that Jack wears a Kraken tooth on his bandana in the third film. Anyone got a picture of this, because all I see is the long bone that Johnny Depp claims was the shin bone of a reindeer. -- 70.162.221.121 02:16, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Where was that one image found of the Kraken dead on the beach in the World's ENd section of the article? I'm not saying that it is bad, or it needs to be cited, I just wanted to know where it came from and possibly that someone could enlarge the size. ManofSTEEL2772 June 5 2007 3:56 p.m.
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The Kraken's eye looks sad after it's dead, as though it's sad that Jones had to kill it. Should this be said? (The title's the way it is as a joke. Do not make it an arguement like above) Hjerpinig 16:50, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
No; there's really no significance to that. I agree that the Kraken looked sad, but I personally think it was made to look like that as some payback for all the destruction it caused in the last movie. The important part is that is showed Jack just how much Beckett is in control of the seas; even able to order Jones to kill that which was thought to be unkillable; that's already stated in the article.-Darknessofheart
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