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this non released character has her own article? while characters like roadhog whove been in the game since 2016 dont? i dont think she should have an article honestly just merge her into the character page.. 2600:1702:BE0:6500:BDF4:1FC1:8511:916B ( talk) 19:10, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
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Since Pharah is currently under an AfD tag, and this one is in much better shape, it might take me a second to get to this one but I will be looking for additional sourcing.
Regardless, the present sourcing establishes Kiriko as a notable character. There is ample sourcing on her development history (including a good amount of sourcing before she was even officially announced; teasing of her character, as well as related leaks, received RS coverage (see Leri, Colp (Sep. 8), Bellingham, and Thomas sources). This is similar to Sombra, even without an ARG to accompany Kiriko's rollout.
I don't know why coverage dedicated to gameplay elements of characters gets pooh-poohed or dismissed (coverage of gameplay still meets WP:GNG and nothing in the guideline prohibits or excludes such coverage from counting toward GNG clearance), but there is also ample sourcing indeed covering her gameplay elements (such as the Richardson source, and this Colp (Sep 15) source).
Coverage on her character design/development in regards to non-gameplay element is also comfortably included in the article. I do not like WP:THREE for various reasons, but if that criteria is met, it does seem to alleviate concerns an article doesn't meet GNG for a lot of other editors. So, circling back to coverage of her development/design (beyond the base-level coverage on her gameplay abilities - i.e. lore, story, art design, or considerations to how Kiriko fits in the gameplay balancing, as opposed to discussion on her core abilities), there is:
I also believe the Manske and Dane sources fit that bill too.
Again, I will continue to seek and identify sources for inclusion, but it will be a secondary priority to Pharah.
Also, @ GlatorNator:, I wasn't comparing Kiriko to D.Va. I was simply saying that the article for D.Va, and Brigitte (and Winston and Mercy) had the sources exist template added to them and was suggesting we do the same for this article. (You were the editor that found sourcing and then placed the appropriate tagging on those articles, so thank you for that). On Kiriko being not notable or primary... well, above I noted how she satisfies notability criteria, and her not being one of the "primary" characters is not a factor to whether she warrants an article or not, as far as I'm aware. I'd also argue she actually is one of the faces of the sequel, being that she was the very last character developed ahead of its official early access release, and the first one included via its battle pass. But again, neither here nor there, just my opinion on that front. Soulbust ( talk) 23:28, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved ( non-admin closure) >>> Extorc. talk 13:12, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
– I think the Kiriko from Overwatch is more notorious abd definitely has more views. When searching at google "Kiriko", the Overwatch character comes out. Other Kirko articles has their last name. So, I thimk the Overwatch Kiriko should be primary. GlatorNator ( ᴛ) 13:00, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
From this post [1], Overwatch worked with the Saveafox rescue in Minnesota to record the foxes' sounds for Kiriko's fox spirit. Hopefully an RS will pick that up. — Masem ( t) 13:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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this non released character has her own article? while characters like roadhog whove been in the game since 2016 dont? i dont think she should have an article honestly just merge her into the character page.. 2600:1702:BE0:6500:BDF4:1FC1:8511:916B ( talk) 19:10, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Theleekycauldron (
talk)
01:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Converted from a redirect by Soulbust ( talk). Self-nominated at 04:30, 19 September 2022 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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QPQ: Done. |
Since Pharah is currently under an AfD tag, and this one is in much better shape, it might take me a second to get to this one but I will be looking for additional sourcing.
Regardless, the present sourcing establishes Kiriko as a notable character. There is ample sourcing on her development history (including a good amount of sourcing before she was even officially announced; teasing of her character, as well as related leaks, received RS coverage (see Leri, Colp (Sep. 8), Bellingham, and Thomas sources). This is similar to Sombra, even without an ARG to accompany Kiriko's rollout.
I don't know why coverage dedicated to gameplay elements of characters gets pooh-poohed or dismissed (coverage of gameplay still meets WP:GNG and nothing in the guideline prohibits or excludes such coverage from counting toward GNG clearance), but there is also ample sourcing indeed covering her gameplay elements (such as the Richardson source, and this Colp (Sep 15) source).
Coverage on her character design/development in regards to non-gameplay element is also comfortably included in the article. I do not like WP:THREE for various reasons, but if that criteria is met, it does seem to alleviate concerns an article doesn't meet GNG for a lot of other editors. So, circling back to coverage of her development/design (beyond the base-level coverage on her gameplay abilities - i.e. lore, story, art design, or considerations to how Kiriko fits in the gameplay balancing, as opposed to discussion on her core abilities), there is:
I also believe the Manske and Dane sources fit that bill too.
Again, I will continue to seek and identify sources for inclusion, but it will be a secondary priority to Pharah.
Also, @ GlatorNator:, I wasn't comparing Kiriko to D.Va. I was simply saying that the article for D.Va, and Brigitte (and Winston and Mercy) had the sources exist template added to them and was suggesting we do the same for this article. (You were the editor that found sourcing and then placed the appropriate tagging on those articles, so thank you for that). On Kiriko being not notable or primary... well, above I noted how she satisfies notability criteria, and her not being one of the "primary" characters is not a factor to whether she warrants an article or not, as far as I'm aware. I'd also argue she actually is one of the faces of the sequel, being that she was the very last character developed ahead of its official early access release, and the first one included via its battle pass. But again, neither here nor there, just my opinion on that front. Soulbust ( talk) 23:28, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved ( non-admin closure) >>> Extorc. talk 13:12, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
– I think the Kiriko from Overwatch is more notorious abd definitely has more views. When searching at google "Kiriko", the Overwatch character comes out. Other Kirko articles has their last name. So, I thimk the Overwatch Kiriko should be primary. GlatorNator ( ᴛ) 13:00, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
From this post [1], Overwatch worked with the Saveafox rescue in Minnesota to record the foxes' sounds for Kiriko's fox spirit. Hopefully an RS will pick that up. — Masem ( t) 13:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)