Those "Lithuanians" should be called nationalist "Zmudzins" because they have anything to do with old Lithuania. Yes and they were cruel fellows and they are still cruel, bigoted, ugly and disgusting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.57.196.207 ( talk) 13:37, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
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As of March 13 2008 version I have troubles verifying the existence of publications in the further reading section. If they are English translation of Lithuanian works (as I suspect), the full Lithuanian title and bibliographical data (per WP:CITE) should be provided; otherwise that info is close to useless.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Where and when published? - Xx236 ( talk) 14:05, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
I find it disturbing but actually it shows a lot, a lot about how cruel humans can really be — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.72.130.155 ( talk) 13:16, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
The article states:
This statement is supposedly backed up by a Lithuanian text that is translated in English by Lithuanian-speaking editor Renata as follows:
However, the statement in the above text that "Klimaitis' squad was not subordinate to either LAF or the Lithuanian Provisional Government" is not supported by an independent source. What we have here is (1) a German general describing how the Germans "utilized... [a] guerrilla commander" without mentioning that the guerillas were commanded by or subordinate to the Germans, but simply "instructed on [the] matter", i.e. they were provided with assistance, and (2) the author of the Lithuanian book claiming, but without providing substantiation for his claim, that these particular guerillas were "not subordinate to either LAF or the Lithuanian Provisional Government." The referenced primary source is the German general. He speaks of Lithuanian partisans. If they were anything less than that, he would've described them otherwise - especially when reporting to his superiors. The author disputes the Klimaitis' "squad" were genuine partisans. We have to go by the primary source and the primary source is the German general. The clear conclusion from the referenced text is that the Germans initiated the pogrom and the pogrom was executed by Lithuanian partisans. - The Gnome ( talk) 06:16, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I propose that Kaunas massacre of October 29, 1941 be merged into Kaunas pogrom. The subject of the two articles is identical and so, too, should be the content. The Gnome ( talk) 08:38, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Ping User:Buidhe. Was this a war crime? Do you think there should be a category that's equivalent of pl:Kategoria:Zbrodnie kolaborantów i nacjonalistów litewskich? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:12, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
This entire section reads like an apologia for collaborators. It should be removed forthwith. 2601:18C:4302:85A0:4DE1:DFC3:6357:ADAC ( talk) 00:32, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
The page says '68' (caption) or 'several dozens'. Reliable estimates should be listed. Xx236 ( talk) 13:53, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
The article says it might have been a German, but the quoted blog suggests it was a Lithuanian Nazi, such possibility is not quoted. Xx236 ( talk) 14:06, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Those "Lithuanians" should be called nationalist "Zmudzins" because they have anything to do with old Lithuania. Yes and they were cruel fellows and they are still cruel, bigoted, ugly and disgusting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.57.196.207 ( talk) 13:37, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
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As of March 13 2008 version I have troubles verifying the existence of publications in the further reading section. If they are English translation of Lithuanian works (as I suspect), the full Lithuanian title and bibliographical data (per WP:CITE) should be provided; otherwise that info is close to useless.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Where and when published? - Xx236 ( talk) 14:05, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
I find it disturbing but actually it shows a lot, a lot about how cruel humans can really be — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.72.130.155 ( talk) 13:16, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
The article states:
This statement is supposedly backed up by a Lithuanian text that is translated in English by Lithuanian-speaking editor Renata as follows:
However, the statement in the above text that "Klimaitis' squad was not subordinate to either LAF or the Lithuanian Provisional Government" is not supported by an independent source. What we have here is (1) a German general describing how the Germans "utilized... [a] guerrilla commander" without mentioning that the guerillas were commanded by or subordinate to the Germans, but simply "instructed on [the] matter", i.e. they were provided with assistance, and (2) the author of the Lithuanian book claiming, but without providing substantiation for his claim, that these particular guerillas were "not subordinate to either LAF or the Lithuanian Provisional Government." The referenced primary source is the German general. He speaks of Lithuanian partisans. If they were anything less than that, he would've described them otherwise - especially when reporting to his superiors. The author disputes the Klimaitis' "squad" were genuine partisans. We have to go by the primary source and the primary source is the German general. The clear conclusion from the referenced text is that the Germans initiated the pogrom and the pogrom was executed by Lithuanian partisans. - The Gnome ( talk) 06:16, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I propose that Kaunas massacre of October 29, 1941 be merged into Kaunas pogrom. The subject of the two articles is identical and so, too, should be the content. The Gnome ( talk) 08:38, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Ping User:Buidhe. Was this a war crime? Do you think there should be a category that's equivalent of pl:Kategoria:Zbrodnie kolaborantów i nacjonalistów litewskich? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:12, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
This entire section reads like an apologia for collaborators. It should be removed forthwith. 2601:18C:4302:85A0:4DE1:DFC3:6357:ADAC ( talk) 00:32, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
The page says '68' (caption) or 'several dozens'. Reliable estimates should be listed. Xx236 ( talk) 13:53, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
The article says it might have been a German, but the quoted blog suggests it was a Lithuanian Nazi, such possibility is not quoted. Xx236 ( talk) 14:06, 13 March 2023 (UTC)