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This might seem retentive, but the lists of important towns and interesting places both seem rather random. Perhaps they should be ordered in some useful fashion. For the towns, by population might seem natural, but I would propose that we instead list towns from one end of the island to the other, so they are more or less geographic in order. Given the linear nature of the highway system, a list from Haena to Hana might be useful. (Or Hanalei to Kekaha...) Something similar could be done with the places of interest, too, although not all of them are necessarily on the highway, so they aren't quite as linear. Opinions solicited! Davidlwilliamson ( talk) 07:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg owns land on Kaui. http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/facebooks-zuckerberg-sues-hundreds-of-hawaiians-to-force-property-sales-to-him/ar-AAm1TvX Olivier Mengué | ⇄ 08:54, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Please refer to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Hawaii-related articles. I have reverted the edits that removed the ʻOkina from the article. The ʻOkina conforms to the MOS for Hawaii articles. Questions? - Please discuss at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Hawaii-related articles, and do not alter individual articles. Thank you. — Maile ( talk) 00:11, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
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I think there is a mistake in the Kokeo Point reference. Besides the fact that I cannot find a place by this name along the south shore the link brings you to Koke'e headland, correctly located on the north shore. Bassrolf ( talk) 12:57, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
This page appears to have been moved several times without any discussion occurring on the talk page. One editor cites the USGS designation, which is indeed Kauaʻi, the other cites WP:COMMONNAME and WP:ENGLISH. Well, as a part-time resident of Hawaiʻi, I can tell you that Kauaʻi is the common name in use on the Islands. The island is a county of the State of Hawaii, and that county's official name is County of Kauaʻi. The inclusion of the ʻokina is common usage on the Islands, on street signs and Government buildings. The removal of the ʻokina is incorrect and is part of a pattern of indigenous suppression which it is inappropriate to continue on Wikipedia, especially at this time. The ʻokina is used throughout Wikipedia on articles related to the Hawaiʻian Islands, and it should not be removed from either the body or titles of articles. Skyerise ( talk) 16:19, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus ( non-admin closure) ~ Amkgp 💬 15:24, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
– From MOS:HAWAII: Use of the proper diacritics in Hawaiian language words and phrases is important. However, when using the kahakō and ʻokina for a word in article content or title that has both these marks, it is suggested to use both of the characters or neither of them. This is to avoid a misuse of the diacritics that would change the meaning of the word. As with any letter or character, omission of the kahakō or ʻokina in Hawaiian words can change the pronunciation and often alter the meaning of the word in the native Hawaiian language. It may alter a geographical location: for example, Kalaʻe and Ka Lae are different places. Lānaʻi is an island and has some other meanings, while lānai is a covered porch around a house, and lanai means "stiff-backed".
In regard to "Spelling in article titles", MOS:HAWAII states: "Whenever possible, the most common name should be used with the regional spelling and orthography preferred for titles and consistently used when referring to the subject in the body of the article." By this standard, the article should be moved to Kauaʻi, as this is the official name of both the island and county and is used both by USGS and the County website. Similar reasoning applies to Lānaʻi ( USGS, Lānaʻi Chamber of Commerce) as well as the fact that the name of this island is used as an example above. The article should not bear a title meaning "stiff-backed". Skyerise ( talk) 19:32, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Geologic map of the southern flank of Mauna Loa Volcano, Island of Hawaiʻi, Hawaii.
According to the Kauai Geography and Geology site, it is the oldest Hawaiian island rather than the second oldest as it states on this Wikipedia page. Here is the link to the site I am referring to. https://www.kauai.com/kauai-geography#:~:text=Kauai%20is%20the%20oldest%20island,many%20indigenous%20plants%20and%20wildlife. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:4BCB:38F8:25A3:FEA2:A7CC:890C ( talk) 12:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
The site referenced just above is a commercial (i.e. tourist promotional) site, and is not an authoritative source for this encyclopedia. That Ni'ihau is older than Kaua'i is accepted by most geologists and is in keeping with this Wikipedia article about the Hawaiian Hot Spot: [ [1]]. A better reference for the ages of Hawaiian islands is this one from The Hawaiian Center for Volcanology: [ [2]]. -- DaKine ( talk) 16:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
1. The entry on the sugar mill in Koloa has only pertinent information as far as the first sentence. After that, the additional information does not seem related so it should not be there.
2. I cannot find a location for Mana or Waiawa.
3. The image entitled "Na Pali Coast State Park" had a duplicate. I removed one because it was redundant. I also rearranged the images of the entire article to improve the layout.
4. "Popular tourist shave ice shops are Wailua Shave Ice in Kapaʻa, and Uncle's Shave Ice in Lihuʻe and Koloa." This sounds like publicity on Wikipedia. It helps the business but this is an encyclopedia.
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This might seem retentive, but the lists of important towns and interesting places both seem rather random. Perhaps they should be ordered in some useful fashion. For the towns, by population might seem natural, but I would propose that we instead list towns from one end of the island to the other, so they are more or less geographic in order. Given the linear nature of the highway system, a list from Haena to Hana might be useful. (Or Hanalei to Kekaha...) Something similar could be done with the places of interest, too, although not all of them are necessarily on the highway, so they aren't quite as linear. Opinions solicited! Davidlwilliamson ( talk) 07:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg owns land on Kaui. http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/facebooks-zuckerberg-sues-hundreds-of-hawaiians-to-force-property-sales-to-him/ar-AAm1TvX Olivier Mengué | ⇄ 08:54, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Please refer to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Hawaii-related articles. I have reverted the edits that removed the ʻOkina from the article. The ʻOkina conforms to the MOS for Hawaii articles. Questions? - Please discuss at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Hawaii-related articles, and do not alter individual articles. Thank you. — Maile ( talk) 00:11, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
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I think there is a mistake in the Kokeo Point reference. Besides the fact that I cannot find a place by this name along the south shore the link brings you to Koke'e headland, correctly located on the north shore. Bassrolf ( talk) 12:57, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
This page appears to have been moved several times without any discussion occurring on the talk page. One editor cites the USGS designation, which is indeed Kauaʻi, the other cites WP:COMMONNAME and WP:ENGLISH. Well, as a part-time resident of Hawaiʻi, I can tell you that Kauaʻi is the common name in use on the Islands. The island is a county of the State of Hawaii, and that county's official name is County of Kauaʻi. The inclusion of the ʻokina is common usage on the Islands, on street signs and Government buildings. The removal of the ʻokina is incorrect and is part of a pattern of indigenous suppression which it is inappropriate to continue on Wikipedia, especially at this time. The ʻokina is used throughout Wikipedia on articles related to the Hawaiʻian Islands, and it should not be removed from either the body or titles of articles. Skyerise ( talk) 16:19, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus ( non-admin closure) ~ Amkgp 💬 15:24, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
– From MOS:HAWAII: Use of the proper diacritics in Hawaiian language words and phrases is important. However, when using the kahakō and ʻokina for a word in article content or title that has both these marks, it is suggested to use both of the characters or neither of them. This is to avoid a misuse of the diacritics that would change the meaning of the word. As with any letter or character, omission of the kahakō or ʻokina in Hawaiian words can change the pronunciation and often alter the meaning of the word in the native Hawaiian language. It may alter a geographical location: for example, Kalaʻe and Ka Lae are different places. Lānaʻi is an island and has some other meanings, while lānai is a covered porch around a house, and lanai means "stiff-backed".
In regard to "Spelling in article titles", MOS:HAWAII states: "Whenever possible, the most common name should be used with the regional spelling and orthography preferred for titles and consistently used when referring to the subject in the body of the article." By this standard, the article should be moved to Kauaʻi, as this is the official name of both the island and county and is used both by USGS and the County website. Similar reasoning applies to Lānaʻi ( USGS, Lānaʻi Chamber of Commerce) as well as the fact that the name of this island is used as an example above. The article should not bear a title meaning "stiff-backed". Skyerise ( talk) 19:32, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Geologic map of the southern flank of Mauna Loa Volcano, Island of Hawaiʻi, Hawaii.
According to the Kauai Geography and Geology site, it is the oldest Hawaiian island rather than the second oldest as it states on this Wikipedia page. Here is the link to the site I am referring to. https://www.kauai.com/kauai-geography#:~:text=Kauai%20is%20the%20oldest%20island,many%20indigenous%20plants%20and%20wildlife. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:4BCB:38F8:25A3:FEA2:A7CC:890C ( talk) 12:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
The site referenced just above is a commercial (i.e. tourist promotional) site, and is not an authoritative source for this encyclopedia. That Ni'ihau is older than Kaua'i is accepted by most geologists and is in keeping with this Wikipedia article about the Hawaiian Hot Spot: [ [1]]. A better reference for the ages of Hawaiian islands is this one from The Hawaiian Center for Volcanology: [ [2]]. -- DaKine ( talk) 16:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
1. The entry on the sugar mill in Koloa has only pertinent information as far as the first sentence. After that, the additional information does not seem related so it should not be there.
2. I cannot find a location for Mana or Waiawa.
3. The image entitled "Na Pali Coast State Park" had a duplicate. I removed one because it was redundant. I also rearranged the images of the entire article to improve the layout.
4. "Popular tourist shave ice shops are Wailua Shave Ice in Kapaʻa, and Uncle's Shave Ice in Lihuʻe and Koloa." This sounds like publicity on Wikipedia. It helps the business but this is an encyclopedia.
ICE77 ( talk) 03:49, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Oahu which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 18:45, 10 July 2023 (UTC)