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"She was one of only three British-built battleships sunk by submarine attack during World War II."
Odd phrasing, since those were the only three battleships sunk by submarine during WW2, period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.24.106.180 ( talk) 02:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
I've attempted to add a short section about documented corruption involving the attribution of the Kongo contract to Vickers and Mitsui. This addition has been removed twice. The second time I posted it I added citations and removed an 'apparently offending' link to another Wikipedia article.
Here's my attempted addition: Siemens-Vickers Scandal Main article: Siemens scandal In January 1914, a telegram leaked from Siemens' Tokyo office to Reuters along with further reporting by the New York Times and Asahi Shimbun led to an investigation by Japanese authorities which revealed a pattern of bribery and kickbacks by German and English armaments corporations. Siemens had been paying senior Japanese officials a secret 15% kickback, until Vickers had outbid them by offering 25%. Vickers had paid 210,000 yen to Admiral Fuji of the Imperial Japanese Navy procurement in 1911 and 1912, and 40,000 yen to Vice Admiral Kazu, related to obtaining the contract for building the Kongō. Kazu was court-martialed in May 1914, fined 400,000 yen and sentenced to 3 years in prison. As a result of the Siemens-Vickers Scandal revolving around the contracts of building the Kongo, the government of Prime Minister Yamamoto resigned March 23, 1914. Senior executives of the Mitsui corporation, Japanese partners of Vickers, also resigned [9][10]
How can I improve this contribution? What are (is) the issue? Should it be placed in a different section, or placed in the article about the 'Kongo Class of battlecruisers'?
A request for arbitration will be submitted if a consensus cannot be arrived at. Guerre1859 ( talk) 16:44, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
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at the end. Thank you. —
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talk) 17:04, 17 May 2021 (UTC)A request for arbitration will be submitted if a consensus cannot be arrived at.is like threatening to use a nuclear weapon if the person who keeps on parking too close to your car doesn't stop. Even if you do file an arbitration request (read the notices carefully), they will throw it out as a content dispute, per WP:ARBGUIDE#Expertise. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 09:51, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
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talk) 18:48, 18 May 2021 (UTC)Why does the article about the class define the ships as battlecruisers, while the specific articles about each ship define them as Battleship? Thanks, Utzli ( talk) 09:43, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
As built, the turrets were limited to 25 degrees of elevation (see Naval Weapons of the World or Naval Weapons of World War I (Friedman) or Naval Weapons of World War II (Campbell). The maximum ballistic range with the 1,400 lbs Type 3 AP shell did not exceed 27,000 yds. During the first rebuilding, gun elevation was increased to 33 degrees, extending range with the Type 91 1,485 lbs AP shell to 33,000 yds. The range in the article is with the Type 91 AP shell at the gun elevation of 43 degrees, when the turrets were modified yet again in the second cycle of rebuilds. 207.132.224.130 ( talk) 08:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
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Japanese battleship Kongō is part of the Battlecruisers of the world series, a featured topic. It is also part of the Battlecruisers of Japan series, a good topic. It is also part of the Battleships of Japan series, a featured topic. These are identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve them, please do so. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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"She was one of only three British-built battleships sunk by submarine attack during World War II."
Odd phrasing, since those were the only three battleships sunk by submarine during WW2, period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.24.106.180 ( talk) 02:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
I've attempted to add a short section about documented corruption involving the attribution of the Kongo contract to Vickers and Mitsui. This addition has been removed twice. The second time I posted it I added citations and removed an 'apparently offending' link to another Wikipedia article.
Here's my attempted addition: Siemens-Vickers Scandal Main article: Siemens scandal In January 1914, a telegram leaked from Siemens' Tokyo office to Reuters along with further reporting by the New York Times and Asahi Shimbun led to an investigation by Japanese authorities which revealed a pattern of bribery and kickbacks by German and English armaments corporations. Siemens had been paying senior Japanese officials a secret 15% kickback, until Vickers had outbid them by offering 25%. Vickers had paid 210,000 yen to Admiral Fuji of the Imperial Japanese Navy procurement in 1911 and 1912, and 40,000 yen to Vice Admiral Kazu, related to obtaining the contract for building the Kongō. Kazu was court-martialed in May 1914, fined 400,000 yen and sentenced to 3 years in prison. As a result of the Siemens-Vickers Scandal revolving around the contracts of building the Kongo, the government of Prime Minister Yamamoto resigned March 23, 1914. Senior executives of the Mitsui corporation, Japanese partners of Vickers, also resigned [9][10]
How can I improve this contribution? What are (is) the issue? Should it be placed in a different section, or placed in the article about the 'Kongo Class of battlecruisers'?
A request for arbitration will be submitted if a consensus cannot be arrived at. Guerre1859 ( talk) 16:44, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
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at the end. Thank you. —
sbb (
talk) 17:04, 17 May 2021 (UTC)A request for arbitration will be submitted if a consensus cannot be arrived at.is like threatening to use a nuclear weapon if the person who keeps on parking too close to your car doesn't stop. Even if you do file an arbitration request (read the notices carefully), they will throw it out as a content dispute, per WP:ARBGUIDE#Expertise. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 09:51, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
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). Thanks! ;-) —
sbb (
talk) 18:48, 18 May 2021 (UTC)Why does the article about the class define the ships as battlecruisers, while the specific articles about each ship define them as Battleship? Thanks, Utzli ( talk) 09:43, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
As built, the turrets were limited to 25 degrees of elevation (see Naval Weapons of the World or Naval Weapons of World War I (Friedman) or Naval Weapons of World War II (Campbell). The maximum ballistic range with the 1,400 lbs Type 3 AP shell did not exceed 27,000 yds. During the first rebuilding, gun elevation was increased to 33 degrees, extending range with the Type 91 1,485 lbs AP shell to 33,000 yds. The range in the article is with the Type 91 AP shell at the gun elevation of 43 degrees, when the turrets were modified yet again in the second cycle of rebuilds. 207.132.224.130 ( talk) 08:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
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