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See User talk:CanadrianUK#Re:Józef Lipski and User_talk:Piotrus#J.C3.B3zef_Lipski for discussion, comments welcomed on which phrase would be more neutral.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 17:04, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I understand that Józef Lipski is buried in Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Washington, DC. [1] Can anyone send and/or post the details of what it says on his gravestone as well as of any other of his close family buried with him in the same section of the cemetery. Thank you. 73.129.214.54 ( talk) 15:25, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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@ Volunteer Marek: - please provide a clear rationale for removal of a factual description of Lipski's mission to Germany covered by the peer reviewed Journal of Genocide Research, which you removed in diff. NPOV seems unrelated to the issue, as this is a rather straightforward factual assertion. Icewhiz ( talk) 05:36, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
"with WP:FRINGE views who's "work" has been very widely criticized"- which seems to be a borderline BLP attack absent sources). Furthermore, the source here is the peer reviewed Journal of Genocide Research - which accepted this. Icewhiz ( talk) 07:28, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Looks like someone is trying to promote their youtube channel. See introductory statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.27.112.11 ( talk) 21:21, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Note that TA sourcing expectations apply here as well. Please see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Antisemitism in Poland#Article sourcing expectations. François Robere ( talk) 14:36, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
François Robere and Zianon, stop removing content that you don't like from this article, several editors already restored the text you removed earlier, not just me, such as Safire Legend and Piotrus. This is a clear case of bias, using various arguments to justify removing texts which disputes claims that Lipski was an anti-semite. Btw, there are entire Wikipedia articles written on current events, so the argument that Russian-Polish relations are not relevant is a bogus one. -- E-960 ( talk) 15:17, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
But, the statement says "and/or articles published by reputable institutions" not just "publishing house". In this case, the two news outlets are very reputable and certainly the Union of Jewish Religious Communities in Poland is reputable. In any case, I would like to perhaps get user Piotrus to comment on this, to see how strictly to apply the definition. -- E-960 ( talk) 18:58, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
As a reminder, Rzeczpospolita was declared to be reliable at AE in the light of the recent ArbCom sourcing remedy, see [5]. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Why is the lengthy attempt at exculpation and minimization by Timothy Snyder needed? The context (Madagaskar settlement plans) and timing (1938) of the remarks is perfectly clear, we don't need Snyder to tell us that Lipski wasn't talking about mass murder. Nor, for that matter, were the Nazis in those days. Nobody, including the Hitler-cheering Germans at Nürnberg and the Hitler-trusting Chamberlain, knew in 1938 that this would end in gas chambers. Lipski was, however, talking about what today is called genocide, the ethnic cleansing of all Jews from Poland. I do not see why this merits Snyder's softening, nor what information the Snyder quote adds to the article about Lipski, especially as there is more doubtful exculpation of Lipski in the following section, like: "Poland supported the emigration of its 10 percent Jewish minority, but it did so partly in cooperation with the Zionist movement" -- indeed, but Nazis did the exact same thing until 1939 (Havara agreement), and this was still considered antisemitic even in those days. 92.217.75.178 ( talk) 19:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
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See User talk:CanadrianUK#Re:Józef Lipski and User_talk:Piotrus#J.C3.B3zef_Lipski for discussion, comments welcomed on which phrase would be more neutral.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 17:04, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I understand that Józef Lipski is buried in Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Washington, DC. [1] Can anyone send and/or post the details of what it says on his gravestone as well as of any other of his close family buried with him in the same section of the cemetery. Thank you. 73.129.214.54 ( talk) 15:25, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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@ Volunteer Marek: - please provide a clear rationale for removal of a factual description of Lipski's mission to Germany covered by the peer reviewed Journal of Genocide Research, which you removed in diff. NPOV seems unrelated to the issue, as this is a rather straightforward factual assertion. Icewhiz ( talk) 05:36, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
"with WP:FRINGE views who's "work" has been very widely criticized"- which seems to be a borderline BLP attack absent sources). Furthermore, the source here is the peer reviewed Journal of Genocide Research - which accepted this. Icewhiz ( talk) 07:28, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Looks like someone is trying to promote their youtube channel. See introductory statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.27.112.11 ( talk) 21:21, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Note that TA sourcing expectations apply here as well. Please see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Antisemitism in Poland#Article sourcing expectations. François Robere ( talk) 14:36, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
François Robere and Zianon, stop removing content that you don't like from this article, several editors already restored the text you removed earlier, not just me, such as Safire Legend and Piotrus. This is a clear case of bias, using various arguments to justify removing texts which disputes claims that Lipski was an anti-semite. Btw, there are entire Wikipedia articles written on current events, so the argument that Russian-Polish relations are not relevant is a bogus one. -- E-960 ( talk) 15:17, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
But, the statement says "and/or articles published by reputable institutions" not just "publishing house". In this case, the two news outlets are very reputable and certainly the Union of Jewish Religious Communities in Poland is reputable. In any case, I would like to perhaps get user Piotrus to comment on this, to see how strictly to apply the definition. -- E-960 ( talk) 18:58, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
As a reminder, Rzeczpospolita was declared to be reliable at AE in the light of the recent ArbCom sourcing remedy, see [5]. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Why is the lengthy attempt at exculpation and minimization by Timothy Snyder needed? The context (Madagaskar settlement plans) and timing (1938) of the remarks is perfectly clear, we don't need Snyder to tell us that Lipski wasn't talking about mass murder. Nor, for that matter, were the Nazis in those days. Nobody, including the Hitler-cheering Germans at Nürnberg and the Hitler-trusting Chamberlain, knew in 1938 that this would end in gas chambers. Lipski was, however, talking about what today is called genocide, the ethnic cleansing of all Jews from Poland. I do not see why this merits Snyder's softening, nor what information the Snyder quote adds to the article about Lipski, especially as there is more doubtful exculpation of Lipski in the following section, like: "Poland supported the emigration of its 10 percent Jewish minority, but it did so partly in cooperation with the Zionist movement" -- indeed, but Nazis did the exact same thing until 1939 (Havara agreement), and this was still considered antisemitic even in those days. 92.217.75.178 ( talk) 19:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)