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Nothing I have read from military documents suggests incapacitating agents, such as BZ, 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate, render the subject or victim unconscious. They are fully awake but totally out-of-control. There is no way to know just what will be the subject's actions. If anything a knockout gas could be an incapacitating agent. User:Kazuba 21 Mar 2007
I know that LSD was researched for this use, but I've never seen anything that indicated it was ever "weaponized", as the article claims. On Thermonuclear War ( talk) 23:04, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
It seems to say that the United states hasn't used BZ yet there were numerous reports of BZ being used in Fallujah. Perhaps this is something to address in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.58.127.196 ( talk) 09:04, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Use of an unconfirmed gas "unavoidably" resulted in the deaths of "fewer than 15%" of hostages? Citing CNN as a reference? Hardly a neutral point of view; apologist for a baldy planned, badly executed operation about which too many questions remain unanswered by the Russian government more like.
An opioid gas such as fentanyl has been used in several recent hostage incidents such as the Moscow theater incident and allegedly in Vietnam in covert capture missions. Johnvr4 ( talk) 20:09, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
I believe I saw reference to the potential use of incapacitating agents in the failed attempt to rescue the US embassy hostages in Iran. Johnvr4 ( talk) 20:02, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Seems to be more of an umbrella term lacking coverage in medical literature. Most information can easily be merged into incapacitating agent — MusikAnimal talk 16:11, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your recent edits to Sleeping gas. They did improve the article, but do not establish the notability of the logical entity Sleeping gas. However, they would be good additions to the articles Incapacitating agent and General anaesthetic.
But regarding one of your user summaries, the US chemical warfare agent with NATO code BZ, 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate, isn't a sedative or sleeping agent - it's a deliriant. Its typical effects include induction of stupor, but not somnolence or sleep. There are other errors like that in our article Sleeping gas which, even when corrected or properly supported by a source don't change the fact that the article's subject isn't notable. loupgarous ( talk) 04:40, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
To all editors who are watching this page, I'm going to redirect Sleeping gas to Incapacitating agent probably in two days. I've added mentions of items formerly not contained in our article Incapacitating agent to assure the reader loses no content on being redirected to that article from Sleeping gas. I'd like to thank editors of our article Sleeping gas for their work on that article and congratulate you - your work has been central to making Incapacitating agent a more comprehensive and encyclopedic article, and wikipedia a better digital encyclopedia. If you have concerns or requests, please leave word here. loupgarous ( talk) 10:45, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
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Why are sleeping gas and knockout gas listed separately? They're the same thing. 2601:282:C00:ABB0:C0D1:91D6:DAFA:1FE7 ( talk) 15:58, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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Nothing I have read from military documents suggests incapacitating agents, such as BZ, 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate, render the subject or victim unconscious. They are fully awake but totally out-of-control. There is no way to know just what will be the subject's actions. If anything a knockout gas could be an incapacitating agent. User:Kazuba 21 Mar 2007
I know that LSD was researched for this use, but I've never seen anything that indicated it was ever "weaponized", as the article claims. On Thermonuclear War ( talk) 23:04, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
It seems to say that the United states hasn't used BZ yet there were numerous reports of BZ being used in Fallujah. Perhaps this is something to address in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.58.127.196 ( talk) 09:04, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Use of an unconfirmed gas "unavoidably" resulted in the deaths of "fewer than 15%" of hostages? Citing CNN as a reference? Hardly a neutral point of view; apologist for a baldy planned, badly executed operation about which too many questions remain unanswered by the Russian government more like.
An opioid gas such as fentanyl has been used in several recent hostage incidents such as the Moscow theater incident and allegedly in Vietnam in covert capture missions. Johnvr4 ( talk) 20:09, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
I believe I saw reference to the potential use of incapacitating agents in the failed attempt to rescue the US embassy hostages in Iran. Johnvr4 ( talk) 20:02, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Seems to be more of an umbrella term lacking coverage in medical literature. Most information can easily be merged into incapacitating agent — MusikAnimal talk 16:11, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your recent edits to Sleeping gas. They did improve the article, but do not establish the notability of the logical entity Sleeping gas. However, they would be good additions to the articles Incapacitating agent and General anaesthetic.
But regarding one of your user summaries, the US chemical warfare agent with NATO code BZ, 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate, isn't a sedative or sleeping agent - it's a deliriant. Its typical effects include induction of stupor, but not somnolence or sleep. There are other errors like that in our article Sleeping gas which, even when corrected or properly supported by a source don't change the fact that the article's subject isn't notable. loupgarous ( talk) 04:40, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
To all editors who are watching this page, I'm going to redirect Sleeping gas to Incapacitating agent probably in two days. I've added mentions of items formerly not contained in our article Incapacitating agent to assure the reader loses no content on being redirected to that article from Sleeping gas. I'd like to thank editors of our article Sleeping gas for their work on that article and congratulate you - your work has been central to making Incapacitating agent a more comprehensive and encyclopedic article, and wikipedia a better digital encyclopedia. If you have concerns or requests, please leave word here. loupgarous ( talk) 10:45, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
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Why are sleeping gas and knockout gas listed separately? They're the same thing. 2601:282:C00:ABB0:C0D1:91D6:DAFA:1FE7 ( talk) 15:58, 3 November 2022 (UTC)