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According to the CDs, they are using spelling "Ikimono-gakari" for English. So I changed the page name. -- Yaizawa 12:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible to change it back again? Everybody associated with them, uses "Ikimonogakari". For example、 band member Hotaka Yamashita, in the video introduction to the video of the recent 'I' concert DVD has written it "ikimonogakari". See also, their fan club's header. Kuitan ( talk) 13:27, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
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Is this the same band singing "Sakura" and "Hana Wa Sakura Kimi Wa Utsukushii", if so the label "Rock" is misleading - "Pop" would be appropriate 203.214.90.33 ( talk) 00:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Do they have a meaning for Ikimono-gakari? "生き物係" "Ikimonogakari/Ikimono Kakari" could be "The Connection between Living Things"... Moocowsrule ( talk) 03:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)moocowrule
This is a response to an editor that undid my edit removing ANN Encylopedia's as a source. ANN Encyclopedia is built on user-submitted material and while the submissions are checked by a staff member, there are often a lot of errors. This would make it a tertiary source, which is a good way to find sources, but in and of it self cannot be used as a source. While ANN has been widely cited, Wikiproject Anime and Manga has always stated that the magazine side of ANN is a reliable source, but the encyclopedia is not; this consensus was upheld in a discussion last month and the project is now undertaking a large-scale resourcing effort.
Your suggestion that I watch Episode 103 doesn't make any sense because I made the edit on April 8th, roughly 48 hours before the episode aired. Now that the episode is out, one can simply source it to the episode because they list it in the credits; but you can't use ANN as a source. -- Kraftlos ( Talk | Contrib) 04:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Who is he anyway???? Which song did he appear in??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kris animefreak ( talk • contribs) 01:32, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
He is the bass guitarist who accompanies them in some of their live performances. He performed in their"Ikimono Matsuri 2011 Donata Summer Mo Tanoshimima Show" over two days at Yokohama Stadium. There is only one problem with his inclusion like this. He is only one of many who perform with them in their live concerts (and in the studio); they are accompanied by strings, brass, guitars (including bass), percussion and so on. These are not necessarily the same from concert to concert. It is a bit like having a performance of a piano concerto where the publicity includes only the name of the pianist, and one of the flautists/flutists/flute players in the orchestra. Kuitan ( talk) 11:02, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Should we try to split the discography section into a dedicated page (e.g. Ayumi Hamasaki/ discography)? Big top 20:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
We had a go-round with this before, and Ryulong moved it back. (see archive discussion from MOS:JAPAN about the earlier move) This time, I was bold and moved it back myself. Relevant points:
I can certainly be wrong, so feel free to revert me, but please supply links that indicate the official spelling when doing so. Thanks :) -- Joren ( talk) 20:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Ikimonogakari Newtral Cover — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuitan ( talk • contribs) 16:03, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Above, it says 'Official usage trumps common usage ... " Ikimonogakari are signed to Epic/Sony. On the English portion of the website, the name is 'Ikimonogakari' with no hyphen. See here. Common usage has Ikimono Gakari and Ikimono-Gakari, with and without upper case; but, I would have to suggest that the conclusion that the inclusion of the space or the hyphen is technically wrong, because, as is said above, offical trumps all. Oh, and apologies for forgetting to sign my previous comment. Kuitan ( talk) 10:39, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Requesting a split of this page, in particular the discography section, into its own page. Self-explanatory. みんな空の下 ( トーク | I wanna chAngE!) 03:55, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
The Rise to Fame section needs to be split. It should really only include the period up to when it is clear that they had an established position, in Japanese music certainly by 2009 or 2010 when they were able to fill large auditoriums and stadiums on a regular basis. It might be a bit earlier.-- Megaton Sheriff ( talk) 14:09, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: pages moved per WP:SILENCE and the fact this discussion has no participation even after multiple relists. ( non-admin closure) Steel1943 ( talk) 22:31, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
– I know this article's naming issue has already been discussed in the past, but it seems that since then the band has cemented the non-hyphenated Ikimonogakari as the official romanization, with some examples being:
In short, I believe per MOS:JAPAN, the article's title should be moved to reflect the change in the band's official romanization usage. TheSuperDodo ( talk) 13:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 10:07, 18 August 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:36, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
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According to the CDs, they are using spelling "Ikimono-gakari" for English. So I changed the page name. -- Yaizawa 12:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible to change it back again? Everybody associated with them, uses "Ikimonogakari". For example、 band member Hotaka Yamashita, in the video introduction to the video of the recent 'I' concert DVD has written it "ikimonogakari". See also, their fan club's header. Kuitan ( talk) 13:27, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
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Is this the same band singing "Sakura" and "Hana Wa Sakura Kimi Wa Utsukushii", if so the label "Rock" is misleading - "Pop" would be appropriate 203.214.90.33 ( talk) 00:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Do they have a meaning for Ikimono-gakari? "生き物係" "Ikimonogakari/Ikimono Kakari" could be "The Connection between Living Things"... Moocowsrule ( talk) 03:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)moocowrule
This is a response to an editor that undid my edit removing ANN Encylopedia's as a source. ANN Encyclopedia is built on user-submitted material and while the submissions are checked by a staff member, there are often a lot of errors. This would make it a tertiary source, which is a good way to find sources, but in and of it self cannot be used as a source. While ANN has been widely cited, Wikiproject Anime and Manga has always stated that the magazine side of ANN is a reliable source, but the encyclopedia is not; this consensus was upheld in a discussion last month and the project is now undertaking a large-scale resourcing effort.
Your suggestion that I watch Episode 103 doesn't make any sense because I made the edit on April 8th, roughly 48 hours before the episode aired. Now that the episode is out, one can simply source it to the episode because they list it in the credits; but you can't use ANN as a source. -- Kraftlos ( Talk | Contrib) 04:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Who is he anyway???? Which song did he appear in??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kris animefreak ( talk • contribs) 01:32, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
He is the bass guitarist who accompanies them in some of their live performances. He performed in their"Ikimono Matsuri 2011 Donata Summer Mo Tanoshimima Show" over two days at Yokohama Stadium. There is only one problem with his inclusion like this. He is only one of many who perform with them in their live concerts (and in the studio); they are accompanied by strings, brass, guitars (including bass), percussion and so on. These are not necessarily the same from concert to concert. It is a bit like having a performance of a piano concerto where the publicity includes only the name of the pianist, and one of the flautists/flutists/flute players in the orchestra. Kuitan ( talk) 11:02, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Should we try to split the discography section into a dedicated page (e.g. Ayumi Hamasaki/ discography)? Big top 20:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
We had a go-round with this before, and Ryulong moved it back. (see archive discussion from MOS:JAPAN about the earlier move) This time, I was bold and moved it back myself. Relevant points:
I can certainly be wrong, so feel free to revert me, but please supply links that indicate the official spelling when doing so. Thanks :) -- Joren ( talk) 20:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Ikimonogakari Newtral Cover — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuitan ( talk • contribs) 16:03, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Above, it says 'Official usage trumps common usage ... " Ikimonogakari are signed to Epic/Sony. On the English portion of the website, the name is 'Ikimonogakari' with no hyphen. See here. Common usage has Ikimono Gakari and Ikimono-Gakari, with and without upper case; but, I would have to suggest that the conclusion that the inclusion of the space or the hyphen is technically wrong, because, as is said above, offical trumps all. Oh, and apologies for forgetting to sign my previous comment. Kuitan ( talk) 10:39, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Requesting a split of this page, in particular the discography section, into its own page. Self-explanatory. みんな空の下 ( トーク | I wanna chAngE!) 03:55, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
The Rise to Fame section needs to be split. It should really only include the period up to when it is clear that they had an established position, in Japanese music certainly by 2009 or 2010 when they were able to fill large auditoriums and stadiums on a regular basis. It might be a bit earlier.-- Megaton Sheriff ( talk) 14:09, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: pages moved per WP:SILENCE and the fact this discussion has no participation even after multiple relists. ( non-admin closure) Steel1943 ( talk) 22:31, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
– I know this article's naming issue has already been discussed in the past, but it seems that since then the band has cemented the non-hyphenated Ikimonogakari as the official romanization, with some examples being:
In short, I believe per MOS:JAPAN, the article's title should be moved to reflect the change in the band's official romanization usage. TheSuperDodo ( talk) 13:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 10:07, 18 August 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:36, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
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