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Hey User:LightandDark2000 and User:ChessEric I see you guys blocked the vandal but why you guys also block me to I'm editing? I was trying to do good things! 71.172.254.114 ( talk) 20:27, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
How can this not be at least C class? It's a fairly long article that's well-referenced. Jim Michael ( talk) 14:08, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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I was hoping this wouldn't happen because it was going to be annoying to add in, but it has, so I'm going to lay it out.
Delta reached a peak 3 different times. The first was when it reached Category 4 intensity (130 mph; 954 mb). The second came shortly after the first (145 mph; 956 mb). The final came this morning (120 mph; 953 mb). How do we list this in the article? I'm not going to act like I know how right now. ChessEric ( talk · contribs) 16:46, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
We usually go by minimum central pressure when referring to the storm's peak intensity. But given this storm's unique behavior (including the mismatch between the intervals with maximum winds and lowest pressure), I think it would be well worth mentioning each of the storm's 3 peaks in the lead. As for the main infobox image, I personally prefer the image of the 3rd peak - it looks better and the storm is at its lowest recorded pressure at that point. We have no hardline policy regarding the main images, but even following WPTC precedent, Delta is not a clear-cut case. LightandDark2000 🌀 ( talk) 20:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Well, obviously. But keep in mind, the general public does not care about a storm's appearance. They heard that Delta was a "dangerous, Category 4 hurricane in the Caribbean", so they are going to expect to see a dangerous, Category 4 hurricane in the Caribbean when they find an image of it, not a reorganizing Category 3 in the Gulf of Mexico. HurricaneGonzalo | Talk | Contribs 15:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
As for the images, they don't have to be when the storm was at peak intensity. It should just be whatever is the most iconic image of the storm, and in this case I think it should be the GoM pic. Mario brought up Sandy - maybe that should be it nearing its US landfall, as opposed to its peak. But that's for a different discussion. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 17:19, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Wow. I know I started the conversation, but this has COMPLETELY blown itself out of proportion since I started it not for the infobox pic, but for the MH. All I'll say is this: I prefer the Gulf image as (a)its at peak and (b)was approaching the United States where most of the impacts were felt. But, I digress. I'm not contributing to this anymore and have decided to let the TCR have the final say so. In the meantime, I think BOTH the Cat 4 image and the Gulf image should be at the beginning of the article. This means one goes in the infobox and the other goes in MH. That is all. ChessEric ( talk · contribs) 17:15, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Quick side note: I just notice that an eye is indeed visible in the Cat 4 pic so I stand corrected on that regard. Sorry about not seeing it before as I though it was just a thunderstorm blowup. I still prefer the Cat 3 pic though. ChessEric ( talk · contribs) 19:36, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
This is absolutely ridiculous y'all. Decide on an image and leave it. This relentless edit warring is a waste of everyone's time. I've locked the page for 3 days in hopes that you can figure out what to do in the meantime. ~ Cyclonebiskit ( chat) 22:30, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Alright. I can't stand this anymore. I start a simple conversation about something and it turns into all out war about SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT and of all things, its a STUPID PICTURE. Whatever image is there NEEDS TO STAY UNTIL THE TCR COMES OUT! Whether its the Cat 4 image or the Cat 3 image, I really don't care, but me being in crappy mood and seeing this ridiculous stupidity still going is not helping me today. FIGURE. SOMETHING. OUT. AND. STOP. WITH. THE. PETTY. BS. I don't want see the section that I started being populated with this absurd topic anymore, especially because I DIDN'T START IT FOR PIC IN THE INFOBOX. I started to ask how we were going to put all 3 of Delta's peaks. Enough is enough. Start another section if you want to keep up this ridiculous argument. Also, I don't care if you don't like me saying this, so don't even THINK about commenting to me about me overstepping boundaries. This has gone on long enough and I WANT IT TO STOP! ChessEric ( talk · contribs) 23:01, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Honestly, if this absurdity continues, I may just look into adding an entry to WP:LAME. TornadoLGS ( talk) 23:04, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
We should keep all of the discussions in one place, to make everything easier to follow. The image discussion should honestly have been held on this talk page, since this article is the one most affected by the image warring. But since someone decided to host the discussion on the image issue on the main season article, I've linked it here for convenience. LightandDark2000 🌀 ( talk) 19:44, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
@ Robloxsupersuperhappyface, ChessEric, Sausius, and Elijahandskip: Feel free to chip in and give in your two cents.~ Destroyeraa 🌀 23:31, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I feel the ITN caption should be “After causing havoc in the resort city of Cancun, Hurricane Delta moves ashore in Louisiana as a Category 2 hurricane causing widespread destruction.” Robloxsupersuperhappyface ( talk) 23:40, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Regardless, I think putting Delta ITN would be a great idea. Robloxsupersuperhappyface ( talk) 23:40, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
That's too dramatic. You don't need the "havoc" part. ChessEric ( talk · contribs) 23:42, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Well havoc is a little too dramatic but mention the trapping of many tourists in the region. Robloxsupersuperhappyface ( talk) 23:45, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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I would like to request an change to be made to Delta's article as it states that Delta was the first Greek named system to make landfall on the U.S in the "Records" section, although Beta was actually the first Greek named tropical cyclone to make landfall on the U.S, which is stated in its own article. Im just requesting an edit so that any readers that will read this aren't misinformed and become confused. WarDestroyer88 ( talk)WarDestroyer88) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WarDestroyer88 ( talk • contribs) 00:50, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
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I’ve noticed that the article says first Greek storm to make landfall on the us. In fact it’s the second, beta was the first Greek to hit us. Although it is the first Greek hurricane landfall on us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.18.109.93 ( talk) 06:18, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
If Arkansas is significantly affected, the article should mention it. Jim Michael ( talk) 14:56, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Once they find the damage, we should make an article for affects in Louisiana if severe. The storm struck as a category 2 and whizzed through the state. -- 67.85.37.186 ( talk) 01:12, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
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In Meteorological history, please change {{convert|145|mph|abbr=on}} to 145 mph (230 km/h). We didn't use convert since it is unable to round off to the nearest 5. 219.78.190.20 ( talk) 03:19, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
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Record section: tying the record set in 2002. 182.239.85.76 ( talk) 12:32, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
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"In Destin, Florida, a 19-year-old tourist drowned, while another was rescued after they were caught in a rip current produced by Hurricane Delta."
Why does the rescued person need to be mentioned? Please replace it with "In Destin, Florida, a 19-year-old tourist drowned in a hurricane-produced rip current." 2601:5C6:8081:35C0:4041:6EC3:563B:B7A9 ( talk) 12:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Can someone input a table with the deaths incurred by Delta. As far as I can read there is only 5 deaths in the Impact sections but the introduction claims 6 deaths, two of them by rip current (?)
Pierre cb ( talk) 23:07, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Can't add this in yet since the article's fully protected, but that expires in a few hours. ~ KN2731 { talk · contribs} 16:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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My son Maxi noticed that in the final sentence of the first paragraph in the article, "Storm" is capitalized incorrectly:
"The Storm began to weaken..."
We believe it should read,
"The storm began to weaken..."
Thanks! Kieran and Maxi Kdiggity8 ( talk) 22:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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How dare you are. The original image was on October 6. Destroyeraa changed it without any discussion, and saying I'm disruptive. The article should be restored to this version, before the dispute occur 182.239.87.5 ( talk) 03:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
Per WP: BRD I would not just revert this(see also WP: 3RR). What are your thoughts? The tp, before this posting, is 36922 bytes. -- 67.85.37.186 ( talk) 01:44, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
I think we should change the image on the infobox to the image of Delta at peak intensity ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Delta_2020-10-06_1330Z.png). While delta did look better at it's second peak, most articles have the storm's image at peak intensity. HurricaneIcy ( talk) 22:48, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I have recently recovered a VDM from the hurricane hunters that stated that the size of Delta's eye was actually 4nmi wide at its smallest, although the article states that it was 6nmi. WarDestroyer88 ( talk) 13:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Vandals are attacking this page. Protect it. 71.172.254.114 ( talk) 20:08, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Hey User:LightandDark2000 and User:ChessEric I see you guys blocked the vandal but why you guys also block me to I'm editing? I was trying to do good things! 71.172.254.114 ( talk) 20:27, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
How can this not be at least C class? It's a fairly long article that's well-referenced. Jim Michael ( talk) 14:08, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I was hoping this wouldn't happen because it was going to be annoying to add in, but it has, so I'm going to lay it out.
Delta reached a peak 3 different times. The first was when it reached Category 4 intensity (130 mph; 954 mb). The second came shortly after the first (145 mph; 956 mb). The final came this morning (120 mph; 953 mb). How do we list this in the article? I'm not going to act like I know how right now. ChessEric ( talk · contribs) 16:46, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
We usually go by minimum central pressure when referring to the storm's peak intensity. But given this storm's unique behavior (including the mismatch between the intervals with maximum winds and lowest pressure), I think it would be well worth mentioning each of the storm's 3 peaks in the lead. As for the main infobox image, I personally prefer the image of the 3rd peak - it looks better and the storm is at its lowest recorded pressure at that point. We have no hardline policy regarding the main images, but even following WPTC precedent, Delta is not a clear-cut case. LightandDark2000 🌀 ( talk) 20:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Well, obviously. But keep in mind, the general public does not care about a storm's appearance. They heard that Delta was a "dangerous, Category 4 hurricane in the Caribbean", so they are going to expect to see a dangerous, Category 4 hurricane in the Caribbean when they find an image of it, not a reorganizing Category 3 in the Gulf of Mexico. HurricaneGonzalo | Talk | Contribs 15:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
As for the images, they don't have to be when the storm was at peak intensity. It should just be whatever is the most iconic image of the storm, and in this case I think it should be the GoM pic. Mario brought up Sandy - maybe that should be it nearing its US landfall, as opposed to its peak. But that's for a different discussion. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 17:19, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Wow. I know I started the conversation, but this has COMPLETELY blown itself out of proportion since I started it not for the infobox pic, but for the MH. All I'll say is this: I prefer the Gulf image as (a)its at peak and (b)was approaching the United States where most of the impacts were felt. But, I digress. I'm not contributing to this anymore and have decided to let the TCR have the final say so. In the meantime, I think BOTH the Cat 4 image and the Gulf image should be at the beginning of the article. This means one goes in the infobox and the other goes in MH. That is all. ChessEric ( talk · contribs) 17:15, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Quick side note: I just notice that an eye is indeed visible in the Cat 4 pic so I stand corrected on that regard. Sorry about not seeing it before as I though it was just a thunderstorm blowup. I still prefer the Cat 3 pic though. ChessEric ( talk · contribs) 19:36, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
This is absolutely ridiculous y'all. Decide on an image and leave it. This relentless edit warring is a waste of everyone's time. I've locked the page for 3 days in hopes that you can figure out what to do in the meantime. ~ Cyclonebiskit ( chat) 22:30, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Alright. I can't stand this anymore. I start a simple conversation about something and it turns into all out war about SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT and of all things, its a STUPID PICTURE. Whatever image is there NEEDS TO STAY UNTIL THE TCR COMES OUT! Whether its the Cat 4 image or the Cat 3 image, I really don't care, but me being in crappy mood and seeing this ridiculous stupidity still going is not helping me today. FIGURE. SOMETHING. OUT. AND. STOP. WITH. THE. PETTY. BS. I don't want see the section that I started being populated with this absurd topic anymore, especially because I DIDN'T START IT FOR PIC IN THE INFOBOX. I started to ask how we were going to put all 3 of Delta's peaks. Enough is enough. Start another section if you want to keep up this ridiculous argument. Also, I don't care if you don't like me saying this, so don't even THINK about commenting to me about me overstepping boundaries. This has gone on long enough and I WANT IT TO STOP! ChessEric ( talk · contribs) 23:01, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Honestly, if this absurdity continues, I may just look into adding an entry to WP:LAME. TornadoLGS ( talk) 23:04, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
We should keep all of the discussions in one place, to make everything easier to follow. The image discussion should honestly have been held on this talk page, since this article is the one most affected by the image warring. But since someone decided to host the discussion on the image issue on the main season article, I've linked it here for convenience. LightandDark2000 🌀 ( talk) 19:44, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
@ Robloxsupersuperhappyface, ChessEric, Sausius, and Elijahandskip: Feel free to chip in and give in your two cents.~ Destroyeraa 🌀 23:31, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I feel the ITN caption should be “After causing havoc in the resort city of Cancun, Hurricane Delta moves ashore in Louisiana as a Category 2 hurricane causing widespread destruction.” Robloxsupersuperhappyface ( talk) 23:40, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Regardless, I think putting Delta ITN would be a great idea. Robloxsupersuperhappyface ( talk) 23:40, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
That's too dramatic. You don't need the "havoc" part. ChessEric ( talk · contribs) 23:42, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Well havoc is a little too dramatic but mention the trapping of many tourists in the region. Robloxsupersuperhappyface ( talk) 23:45, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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I would like to request an change to be made to Delta's article as it states that Delta was the first Greek named system to make landfall on the U.S in the "Records" section, although Beta was actually the first Greek named tropical cyclone to make landfall on the U.S, which is stated in its own article. Im just requesting an edit so that any readers that will read this aren't misinformed and become confused. WarDestroyer88 ( talk)WarDestroyer88) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WarDestroyer88 ( talk • contribs) 00:50, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
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I’ve noticed that the article says first Greek storm to make landfall on the us. In fact it’s the second, beta was the first Greek to hit us. Although it is the first Greek hurricane landfall on us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.18.109.93 ( talk) 06:18, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
If Arkansas is significantly affected, the article should mention it. Jim Michael ( talk) 14:56, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Once they find the damage, we should make an article for affects in Louisiana if severe. The storm struck as a category 2 and whizzed through the state. -- 67.85.37.186 ( talk) 01:12, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
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In Meteorological history, please change {{convert|145|mph|abbr=on}} to 145 mph (230 km/h). We didn't use convert since it is unable to round off to the nearest 5. 219.78.190.20 ( talk) 03:19, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
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Record section: tying the record set in 2002. 182.239.85.76 ( talk) 12:32, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
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"In Destin, Florida, a 19-year-old tourist drowned, while another was rescued after they were caught in a rip current produced by Hurricane Delta."
Why does the rescued person need to be mentioned? Please replace it with "In Destin, Florida, a 19-year-old tourist drowned in a hurricane-produced rip current." 2601:5C6:8081:35C0:4041:6EC3:563B:B7A9 ( talk) 12:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Can someone input a table with the deaths incurred by Delta. As far as I can read there is only 5 deaths in the Impact sections but the introduction claims 6 deaths, two of them by rip current (?)
Pierre cb ( talk) 23:07, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Can't add this in yet since the article's fully protected, but that expires in a few hours. ~ KN2731 { talk · contribs} 16:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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My son Maxi noticed that in the final sentence of the first paragraph in the article, "Storm" is capitalized incorrectly:
"The Storm began to weaken..."
We believe it should read,
"The storm began to weaken..."
Thanks! Kieran and Maxi Kdiggity8 ( talk) 22:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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How dare you are. The original image was on October 6. Destroyeraa changed it without any discussion, and saying I'm disruptive. The article should be restored to this version, before the dispute occur 182.239.87.5 ( talk) 03:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
Per WP: BRD I would not just revert this(see also WP: 3RR). What are your thoughts? The tp, before this posting, is 36922 bytes. -- 67.85.37.186 ( talk) 01:44, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
I think we should change the image on the infobox to the image of Delta at peak intensity ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Delta_2020-10-06_1330Z.png). While delta did look better at it's second peak, most articles have the storm's image at peak intensity. HurricaneIcy ( talk) 22:48, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I have recently recovered a VDM from the hurricane hunters that stated that the size of Delta's eye was actually 4nmi wide at its smallest, although the article states that it was 6nmi. WarDestroyer88 ( talk) 13:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)