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How much days can one survive without drinking?, how many without eating? without breathing? The answer is borderer but not treated. Undead Herle King ( talk) 04:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Some of them can survive more 40 days without eating but its doesn't mean all humans can survive. some can survive, some cannot survive. all I can say its depends how strong your body its is Mbawu ( talk) 07:38, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Under the 'Hunger as a condition'-section, it is stated that gurgling sounds and bubbling feelings are what induce stomach shrinking. The reason for the gurgling and bubbling is never properly explained. Gamkiller 07:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article contain some information on short term and/or long term health effects caused by (especially prolonged or frequent) hunger? Is it detrimental to your health to fast?
What is the 'pit' of the stomach?
Citation needed here! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.24.133.188 ( talk) 10:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
This is a dictionary entry, and a poor one at that. There's nothing but usage information for the word "hunger" here. AxelBoldt 21:14 Nov 20, 2002 (UTC)
That may be better suited to Starvation, unless the (many) specific chemical changes in the body that trigger hunger are documented here. - 64.235.174.78
Yes, I'd like to see it too, just like the example of how the neurotransmitter melatonin is what makes you sleepy, what chemical/thing makes you hungry? The snare ( talk) 03:55, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
I notice this page is exactly the same as [1]. What's company policy on this? 209.195.128.7218 May 2005
I have heard from a couple sources that your stomach does not actually "shrink" when you do not eat enough food. From what I understand, your body is actually producing less stomach acid to dissolve your food. The stomach acid triggers the "hungry" feeling in your stomach, and as the acid gets used up on food, you do not feel as hungry. So when you have less acid, you do not fill up as fast. If I could find some sources, I think this should be pointed out... because a lot of people seem to be spouting off this "myth" about our stomachs shrinking. -Unknown
That's pretty much what I have run across from searching around. So it would make sense then that when people say their "stomach shrank", it was really they just let their appetites return to their minimum appetites. Anyways, thanks. -Unknown
Many individuals feel hunger pangs while attempting to reduce food intake and lose weight. Hunger is the largest single reason why dieting fails. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.214.81.51 ( talk) 04:57, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
The last sentence needs to be deleted as it reflects an anti-American bias. The United States should not be singled out.
I agree with the non-neutral POV tag above. The military expenditure of many nations exceeds 19 billion dollars U.S., yet they are not mentioned. Why it is the responsibility of the United States to feed the hungry or why the military spending of the United States' (or anywhere else) is relevant to the discussion escapes me.
Mentioning satiety would be a great addition to the article. -- Abdull 15:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC) Here is a thought on this subject. There are people in the World that are spending millions of Dollars on finding out if there is drinkable water in Mars. Why not spend those same Dollars on figuring out how to sustain water in the third world Countries so they DON'T HAVE to RELY on the USA or other far better off countries?
China is not on the list. Also, wouldnt percentages be better than total numbers? (IE: at this stage, small countries are excluded no matter what) -146.115.65.15 10:02, 29 June 2006
I updated the list with newer statistic from FAO: http://www.fao.org/faostat/foodsecurity/index_en.htm Also, I definitely think that a percentile should be added to the chart, while keeping the total numbers too. However, I need to find a population chart for 2001-2003 to do that. Anyone? twsjon 12:45, 29 June 2006
false! check brazilian statistics. Marasmus ( talk) 05:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
"The USDA will now use the term "very low food security" to describe people who used to be considered "food insecure with hunger." Statistically speaking, hunger will no longer exist in America." [2]
I have no idea how or if this should be mentioned, but I thought you'd be interested to know that America has abolished hunger. Regards, Ben Aveling 06:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Inaccurate. Abolition is what pansy-ass Europeans do. America exterminated hunger. With a vengeance - to a kill. User talk:p0rq 18:37, 06 May 2007 (GMT)
I hear a lot about hunger in america. Is it anti-americanism? Marasmus ( talk) 05:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
How is a pattern of increased activity in humans demonstrated while they are sleeping? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.5.76.92 ( talk) 19:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Through brain activity Brian Mutembei ( talk) 15:20, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
It is not clear how increased activity due to hunger would relieve pressure on native population. Needs more elaboration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinking-ape ( talk • contribs) 15:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I couldn't figure out what hamster wheels had to do with any population. This sentence is confusing as [vulgarity] 136.176.100.79 ( talk) 18:44, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I think the experiment involving the hamsters indicated that hunger increases activity and that the increased activity usually results in a more widespread search for food. If the population is covering an expanded territory, then the need for food is less pressing. 149.159.101.89 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
I do not think that's necessary correct. A lot of things are affecting our feeling of hunger. Stomach contraction, blood sugar (glucose in the blood), perceptions of food and so on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.134.121.18 ( talk) 23:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Considering putting a pet an abundance of food it'll keep eating and eating till it is very fat, or try the same with a child and sweets or try the same with an adult that doesn't think that much about dietary habits and fast foods, it makes you easily think there might be a fine line between "hunger" and "instinctive draw to food whenever, for whatever, till it's not possible enough to eat". I for one would like to see sources and this article discussing these things. -- Leladax ( talk) 19:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I see a bit of WP:OR in this section in that the original sources give the mortality per year. I'm unsure of the value of deriving the mortality per second, hour, day, etc. Wikipedia is not a platform for advocacy, even for a good cause. Xasodfuih ( talk) 17:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
It is not WP:OR. Please read carefully before judging : the original sources do give variations on the mortality statistics as one can read in the sources I provide in the " References" and as one can also read in the many links to actual source material that I give in the " References"
For example, in the “References"
[17] ^ Jacques Diouf. “The State of Food Insecurity in the World 2004: Monitoring Progress Towards the World Food Summit and Millennium Development Goals”. Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, 2004, p. 4. “one child dies every five seconds as a result of hunger and malnutrition”.
Jacques Diouf, FAO Director-General, wrote this, not me.
As to the value of variations on the mortality statistics, it is necessary because these variations are found in many of the reliable sources on the matter (Food and Agriculture Organization, United Nations Special Rapporteur on the right to food, World Food Programme, Unicef, etc) (included in the sources used by me in the "References"). It is therefore a standard way of communicating the statistics on this matter given by the organizations responsible for establishing authoritative statistics on the subject.
it is necessary also because these variations are used regularly in reliable news outlets and by other seemingly authoritative organizations (various hunger organizations) often without precise references. If one wants to check on one of these variations found somewhere, at least now Wikipedia gives solid sources to support or criticize what one has found. Armando Navarro ( talk) 13:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
This article is becoming increasingly problematic. A few months ago it was, as the "disambig" line says, about hunger as a motivational state. It has, however, steadily been accumulating material about hunger in the sense of malnutrition. Because both meanings seem about equally important, how about if we resolve this by turning hunger into a disambig page, with more specific articles such as hunger (motivation) and hunger (malnutrition), and split out the material accordingly? Looie496 ( talk) 17:19, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
" Defining what is being assessed - hunger
The first question is to decide on and to define in quantifiable terms what is to be assessed - “hungry people”. This leads to the issue of whether it can be measured at all; a number of authors have commented that there is no “gold standard” against which to assess practical measures. Hunger is closely related to food security referring to “access by all people at all times to enough nutritionally adequate and safe food for an active and healthy life” (FAO, 2000, p. 1), and some of the key measurements of this concept are very similar. The definition of hunger used for the Sixth World Food Survey took into account, for the first time, the critical issue of the reference period. The resulting definition was: “the number of people who do not get enough food energy, averaged over one year, to both maintain productive activity and maintain body weight” (FAO, 1990, 1996b). This definition of what is measured should be kept but may need to be explicitly reaffirmed.
The present Symposium has a particular importance if trends are now to be the focus, as it will be difficult to change definitions retrospectively in the future. The features of “hunger” that drive the concern for combating it include:
The measurements considered here are aimed at capturing some of these dimensions. If direct measurement were possible, it would be extremely useful to know the adequacy of dietary food energy intake for individuals, that is, “intake in relation to their requirements” for a defined level of function and reference period. Such a measure would probably predict well the four aspects of hunger indicated above (health, suffering, behaviour and economic). A central question concerns whether adequacy of dietary food energy intake and changes in this can, in fact, be measured. Three of the background papers have this as their central concern: the FAO method, household income and expenditure surveys and individual food intake surveys." Source: http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/y4249e/y4249e0d.htm
For that reason I am against the split. Marasmus ( talk) 05:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
I support the Wikipedia organism autonomously maintaining itself so having the two articles under the hunger heading sounds like a good idea. But I don’t like blessing the Hunger (malnutrition) article with the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I’d prefer Hunger (motivational state) to be named simply Hunger, if that didn’t cause it drift towards the malnutrition topic. But would there be any issues with letting Hunger (disambiguation) take the plain "Hunger" title, and listing both articles with equal blessing at the top? Vadmium ( talk) 13:49, 3 April 2011 (UTC).
Okay, if you think having the disambiguation directly under "Hunger" is a bad idea I’ll leave it alone. Perhaps I’ll just look at tweaking the hat notes and dab entries then. Vadmium ( talk) 01:30, 4 April 2011 (UTC).
I consider vandalism the removal of content without a single explanation. At least Looie496 is now giving a reason, the fact that the TV transmission removed is in french. I suppose you don't disagree with the main merit of question, hunger as a weapon, and the importance of references to that by internal or external links. Thank you Marasmus ( talk) 01:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Cause that is what the current article is telling me.
There is almost no mention of physical, physiological, psychological or any other REAL AND CONSTANT aspects of hunger in humans or animals.
Wonderful! But there are stats on "malnourished people in the developing world". Jolly good!
Let me guess. There was a lot more text on hunger here before, but it was deleted due to being original research?--
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Great to see the article being updated with the 2012 FAO report. However Im likely to reverse some of the changes made earlier today.
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19:06, 4 December 2012 (UTC): Great to see that my adjustments sparked some interest. These are my first steps, but I think there are some opportunities to make the article stronger. On your specific points:
Wow - I am very impressed! I will try to invest a lot more time into this in the nearer future (even though there are many interesting topics to expand, and this one is already covered well). For now I want to limit my feedback to one specific point in the ledge. The claim that 1 child dies from hunger every 6 seconds is a pretty old one, and I believe not true anymore (at least according to latest reports). The Lancet 2008 series is talking about 3.5M deaths from hunger, the FAO 2012 about 2.5M deaths. Also, I guess there is some caution needed here, as starvation is very rare, and the cause of death - I understand - is rather a combination of hunger-induced weak immune system and another disease (diarrhea, malaria, etc.) on top. Hence probably also the wording in FAO 2012 (and others) that "childhood malnutrition is A cause of death for than 2.5M children every year"). I changed the ledge correspondingly. One last thing on the WFP hunger stats - I heard that they will be updated soon :-) Tpafla82 ( talk) 10:00, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
I really think that "Hunger" should be the motivational state. I looked up Hunger on wikipedia to find out what causes it, blah blah blah and got a load of information about malnutrition and starving people, which I really couldn't care less about right now. This is an encyclopedia, and as such, should really title its articles properly. I propose this article should be only about the motivational state, with a disambig subtitle guiding those looking for famine or malnutrition to the correct page. If that doesn't help then just lock edits on the page. I doubt most people would think "I want to know about famine, better hit wikipedia for 'hunger'".
At the very least a search for hunger should direct to a page with links to hunger (motivational state), hunger among humans, and possibly a third page if neccessary. Misteranderson91 ( talk) 14:15, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
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I had requested that this page be moved from "Hunger" to here, and that the former page Hunger (motivational state) be moved to Hunger. I will be merging this page into Malnutrition; the content almost completely overlaps and unfortunately has not been kept in SYNC. Jytdog ( talk) 14:05, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
I agree with Brandmeister, Misteranderson91, and Jytdog that this article should not be call simply "Hunger". My dictionary (American Heritage) gives a few definitions of the word and none of them correspond to the meaning used in this article. I think we should rename this article "Hunger (malnutrition)" and make "Hunger" be either the article about the feeling of hunger or a disambiguation page. Frankly I even disagree with using the word "hunger" to mean malnutrition. I just redd an article in New Scientist where the author says " 825 million people go to bed hungry every night", which is certainly not true. I suppose he got that from some source (like our Wikipedia article) that uses the word "hungry" to mean malnourished. But he apparently misunderstood, because he says "every night" when obviously people who are malnourished are malnourished all the time, not just when they didn't get supper! Eric Kvaalen ( talk) 08:13, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
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How much days can one survive without drinking?, how many without eating? without breathing? The answer is borderer but not treated. Undead Herle King ( talk) 04:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Some of them can survive more 40 days without eating but its doesn't mean all humans can survive. some can survive, some cannot survive. all I can say its depends how strong your body its is Mbawu ( talk) 07:38, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Under the 'Hunger as a condition'-section, it is stated that gurgling sounds and bubbling feelings are what induce stomach shrinking. The reason for the gurgling and bubbling is never properly explained. Gamkiller 07:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article contain some information on short term and/or long term health effects caused by (especially prolonged or frequent) hunger? Is it detrimental to your health to fast?
What is the 'pit' of the stomach?
Citation needed here! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.24.133.188 ( talk) 10:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
This is a dictionary entry, and a poor one at that. There's nothing but usage information for the word "hunger" here. AxelBoldt 21:14 Nov 20, 2002 (UTC)
That may be better suited to Starvation, unless the (many) specific chemical changes in the body that trigger hunger are documented here. - 64.235.174.78
Yes, I'd like to see it too, just like the example of how the neurotransmitter melatonin is what makes you sleepy, what chemical/thing makes you hungry? The snare ( talk) 03:55, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
I notice this page is exactly the same as [1]. What's company policy on this? 209.195.128.7218 May 2005
I have heard from a couple sources that your stomach does not actually "shrink" when you do not eat enough food. From what I understand, your body is actually producing less stomach acid to dissolve your food. The stomach acid triggers the "hungry" feeling in your stomach, and as the acid gets used up on food, you do not feel as hungry. So when you have less acid, you do not fill up as fast. If I could find some sources, I think this should be pointed out... because a lot of people seem to be spouting off this "myth" about our stomachs shrinking. -Unknown
That's pretty much what I have run across from searching around. So it would make sense then that when people say their "stomach shrank", it was really they just let their appetites return to their minimum appetites. Anyways, thanks. -Unknown
Many individuals feel hunger pangs while attempting to reduce food intake and lose weight. Hunger is the largest single reason why dieting fails. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.214.81.51 ( talk) 04:57, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
The last sentence needs to be deleted as it reflects an anti-American bias. The United States should not be singled out.
I agree with the non-neutral POV tag above. The military expenditure of many nations exceeds 19 billion dollars U.S., yet they are not mentioned. Why it is the responsibility of the United States to feed the hungry or why the military spending of the United States' (or anywhere else) is relevant to the discussion escapes me.
Mentioning satiety would be a great addition to the article. -- Abdull 15:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC) Here is a thought on this subject. There are people in the World that are spending millions of Dollars on finding out if there is drinkable water in Mars. Why not spend those same Dollars on figuring out how to sustain water in the third world Countries so they DON'T HAVE to RELY on the USA or other far better off countries?
China is not on the list. Also, wouldnt percentages be better than total numbers? (IE: at this stage, small countries are excluded no matter what) -146.115.65.15 10:02, 29 June 2006
I updated the list with newer statistic from FAO: http://www.fao.org/faostat/foodsecurity/index_en.htm Also, I definitely think that a percentile should be added to the chart, while keeping the total numbers too. However, I need to find a population chart for 2001-2003 to do that. Anyone? twsjon 12:45, 29 June 2006
false! check brazilian statistics. Marasmus ( talk) 05:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
"The USDA will now use the term "very low food security" to describe people who used to be considered "food insecure with hunger." Statistically speaking, hunger will no longer exist in America." [2]
I have no idea how or if this should be mentioned, but I thought you'd be interested to know that America has abolished hunger. Regards, Ben Aveling 06:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Inaccurate. Abolition is what pansy-ass Europeans do. America exterminated hunger. With a vengeance - to a kill. User talk:p0rq 18:37, 06 May 2007 (GMT)
I hear a lot about hunger in america. Is it anti-americanism? Marasmus ( talk) 05:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
How is a pattern of increased activity in humans demonstrated while they are sleeping? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.5.76.92 ( talk) 19:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Through brain activity Brian Mutembei ( talk) 15:20, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
It is not clear how increased activity due to hunger would relieve pressure on native population. Needs more elaboration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinking-ape ( talk • contribs) 15:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I couldn't figure out what hamster wheels had to do with any population. This sentence is confusing as [vulgarity] 136.176.100.79 ( talk) 18:44, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I think the experiment involving the hamsters indicated that hunger increases activity and that the increased activity usually results in a more widespread search for food. If the population is covering an expanded territory, then the need for food is less pressing. 149.159.101.89 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
I do not think that's necessary correct. A lot of things are affecting our feeling of hunger. Stomach contraction, blood sugar (glucose in the blood), perceptions of food and so on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.134.121.18 ( talk) 23:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Considering putting a pet an abundance of food it'll keep eating and eating till it is very fat, or try the same with a child and sweets or try the same with an adult that doesn't think that much about dietary habits and fast foods, it makes you easily think there might be a fine line between "hunger" and "instinctive draw to food whenever, for whatever, till it's not possible enough to eat". I for one would like to see sources and this article discussing these things. -- Leladax ( talk) 19:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I see a bit of WP:OR in this section in that the original sources give the mortality per year. I'm unsure of the value of deriving the mortality per second, hour, day, etc. Wikipedia is not a platform for advocacy, even for a good cause. Xasodfuih ( talk) 17:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
It is not WP:OR. Please read carefully before judging : the original sources do give variations on the mortality statistics as one can read in the sources I provide in the " References" and as one can also read in the many links to actual source material that I give in the " References"
For example, in the “References"
[17] ^ Jacques Diouf. “The State of Food Insecurity in the World 2004: Monitoring Progress Towards the World Food Summit and Millennium Development Goals”. Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, 2004, p. 4. “one child dies every five seconds as a result of hunger and malnutrition”.
Jacques Diouf, FAO Director-General, wrote this, not me.
As to the value of variations on the mortality statistics, it is necessary because these variations are found in many of the reliable sources on the matter (Food and Agriculture Organization, United Nations Special Rapporteur on the right to food, World Food Programme, Unicef, etc) (included in the sources used by me in the "References"). It is therefore a standard way of communicating the statistics on this matter given by the organizations responsible for establishing authoritative statistics on the subject.
it is necessary also because these variations are used regularly in reliable news outlets and by other seemingly authoritative organizations (various hunger organizations) often without precise references. If one wants to check on one of these variations found somewhere, at least now Wikipedia gives solid sources to support or criticize what one has found. Armando Navarro ( talk) 13:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
This article is becoming increasingly problematic. A few months ago it was, as the "disambig" line says, about hunger as a motivational state. It has, however, steadily been accumulating material about hunger in the sense of malnutrition. Because both meanings seem about equally important, how about if we resolve this by turning hunger into a disambig page, with more specific articles such as hunger (motivation) and hunger (malnutrition), and split out the material accordingly? Looie496 ( talk) 17:19, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
" Defining what is being assessed - hunger
The first question is to decide on and to define in quantifiable terms what is to be assessed - “hungry people”. This leads to the issue of whether it can be measured at all; a number of authors have commented that there is no “gold standard” against which to assess practical measures. Hunger is closely related to food security referring to “access by all people at all times to enough nutritionally adequate and safe food for an active and healthy life” (FAO, 2000, p. 1), and some of the key measurements of this concept are very similar. The definition of hunger used for the Sixth World Food Survey took into account, for the first time, the critical issue of the reference period. The resulting definition was: “the number of people who do not get enough food energy, averaged over one year, to both maintain productive activity and maintain body weight” (FAO, 1990, 1996b). This definition of what is measured should be kept but may need to be explicitly reaffirmed.
The present Symposium has a particular importance if trends are now to be the focus, as it will be difficult to change definitions retrospectively in the future. The features of “hunger” that drive the concern for combating it include:
The measurements considered here are aimed at capturing some of these dimensions. If direct measurement were possible, it would be extremely useful to know the adequacy of dietary food energy intake for individuals, that is, “intake in relation to their requirements” for a defined level of function and reference period. Such a measure would probably predict well the four aspects of hunger indicated above (health, suffering, behaviour and economic). A central question concerns whether adequacy of dietary food energy intake and changes in this can, in fact, be measured. Three of the background papers have this as their central concern: the FAO method, household income and expenditure surveys and individual food intake surveys." Source: http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/y4249e/y4249e0d.htm
For that reason I am against the split. Marasmus ( talk) 05:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
I support the Wikipedia organism autonomously maintaining itself so having the two articles under the hunger heading sounds like a good idea. But I don’t like blessing the Hunger (malnutrition) article with the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I’d prefer Hunger (motivational state) to be named simply Hunger, if that didn’t cause it drift towards the malnutrition topic. But would there be any issues with letting Hunger (disambiguation) take the plain "Hunger" title, and listing both articles with equal blessing at the top? Vadmium ( talk) 13:49, 3 April 2011 (UTC).
Okay, if you think having the disambiguation directly under "Hunger" is a bad idea I’ll leave it alone. Perhaps I’ll just look at tweaking the hat notes and dab entries then. Vadmium ( talk) 01:30, 4 April 2011 (UTC).
I consider vandalism the removal of content without a single explanation. At least Looie496 is now giving a reason, the fact that the TV transmission removed is in french. I suppose you don't disagree with the main merit of question, hunger as a weapon, and the importance of references to that by internal or external links. Thank you Marasmus ( talk) 01:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Cause that is what the current article is telling me.
There is almost no mention of physical, physiological, psychological or any other REAL AND CONSTANT aspects of hunger in humans or animals.
Wonderful! But there are stats on "malnourished people in the developing world". Jolly good!
Let me guess. There was a lot more text on hunger here before, but it was deleted due to being original research?--
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Great to see the article being updated with the 2012 FAO report. However Im likely to reverse some of the changes made earlier today.
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19:06, 4 December 2012 (UTC): Great to see that my adjustments sparked some interest. These are my first steps, but I think there are some opportunities to make the article stronger. On your specific points:
Wow - I am very impressed! I will try to invest a lot more time into this in the nearer future (even though there are many interesting topics to expand, and this one is already covered well). For now I want to limit my feedback to one specific point in the ledge. The claim that 1 child dies from hunger every 6 seconds is a pretty old one, and I believe not true anymore (at least according to latest reports). The Lancet 2008 series is talking about 3.5M deaths from hunger, the FAO 2012 about 2.5M deaths. Also, I guess there is some caution needed here, as starvation is very rare, and the cause of death - I understand - is rather a combination of hunger-induced weak immune system and another disease (diarrhea, malaria, etc.) on top. Hence probably also the wording in FAO 2012 (and others) that "childhood malnutrition is A cause of death for than 2.5M children every year"). I changed the ledge correspondingly. One last thing on the WFP hunger stats - I heard that they will be updated soon :-) Tpafla82 ( talk) 10:00, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
I really think that "Hunger" should be the motivational state. I looked up Hunger on wikipedia to find out what causes it, blah blah blah and got a load of information about malnutrition and starving people, which I really couldn't care less about right now. This is an encyclopedia, and as such, should really title its articles properly. I propose this article should be only about the motivational state, with a disambig subtitle guiding those looking for famine or malnutrition to the correct page. If that doesn't help then just lock edits on the page. I doubt most people would think "I want to know about famine, better hit wikipedia for 'hunger'".
At the very least a search for hunger should direct to a page with links to hunger (motivational state), hunger among humans, and possibly a third page if neccessary. Misteranderson91 ( talk) 14:15, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
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I had requested that this page be moved from "Hunger" to here, and that the former page Hunger (motivational state) be moved to Hunger. I will be merging this page into Malnutrition; the content almost completely overlaps and unfortunately has not been kept in SYNC. Jytdog ( talk) 14:05, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
I agree with Brandmeister, Misteranderson91, and Jytdog that this article should not be call simply "Hunger". My dictionary (American Heritage) gives a few definitions of the word and none of them correspond to the meaning used in this article. I think we should rename this article "Hunger (malnutrition)" and make "Hunger" be either the article about the feeling of hunger or a disambiguation page. Frankly I even disagree with using the word "hunger" to mean malnutrition. I just redd an article in New Scientist where the author says " 825 million people go to bed hungry every night", which is certainly not true. I suppose he got that from some source (like our Wikipedia article) that uses the word "hungry" to mean malnourished. But he apparently misunderstood, because he says "every night" when obviously people who are malnourished are malnourished all the time, not just when they didn't get supper! Eric Kvaalen ( talk) 08:13, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
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