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"On October 15, 1941, Ozaki was arrested in conjunction with the Sorge Incident. During his trial, it was revealed that Ozaki had been working with Sorge since his return to Japan, and that through his close contacts with Konoe and other senior Japanese politicians, was able to gather information and to copy secret documents" Was his trial a secret. He was convicted in a secret trial with the proof here http://www.historynet.com/the-traitor-who-inspired-his-country.htm. Need a link if the trial was secret. (
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Misleading claims about the possibility of Japan invading Russia
Under the heading "biography", the fourth paragraph makes this rather astonishing claim: "Ozaki learned that Japan wanted to avoid a war with the Soviet Union, and let Sorge know of it. This information proved to be of utmost importance for the whole history of the Second World War..." (emphasis added). That is certainly one way of looking at it, but it is not one held by historians outside of Japan. First, most countries "want to avoid war" with other countries, but mere "avoidance" was hardly the dynamic here. Japan and Russia signed the
Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact on 13 April, 1941, which pledged Russia's respect for Manchuria being Japanese territory in exchange for Japan respecting Russia's possession of Mongolia and Siberia. But when on 22 June of that year Germany broke the
Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and invaded Russia in
Operation Barbarossa, Japan began planning to invade Russian territory and by 7 July, Emperor Hirohito approved the plans. See
Kantokuen. The
Imperial Japanese Army leadership had long favored an invasion to the north, east and west of Manchuko (see
Hokushin-ron), even if this was officially put on the back burner after the signing of the Neutrality Pact. But the unstated and most significant factor was that the Imperial Japanese Navy, which at that time seemed unstoppable, had convinced the War Cabinet to focus instead on other invasions in the south, and these plans were supported by the Japanese industrialists who stood to profit more from them. On 25 August, 1941, Sorge sent his intel to Moscow: that Japan had decided to not invade Russia that year. To quote Sorge: "(Ozaki) was able to learn from circles closest to Konoye...that the High Command...discussed whether they should go to war with the USSR. They decided not to launch the war within this year, repeat, not to launch the war this year" (emphases added). To characterize this as "Japan want(ing) to avoid a war with the Soviet Union" is, at best misleading and at worst, ridiculous. It was certainly not because "Japan wanted to avoid a war".
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"On October 15, 1941, Ozaki was arrested in conjunction with the Sorge Incident. During his trial, it was revealed that Ozaki had been working with Sorge since his return to Japan, and that through his close contacts with Konoe and other senior Japanese politicians, was able to gather information and to copy secret documents" Was his trial a secret. He was convicted in a secret trial with the proof here http://www.historynet.com/the-traitor-who-inspired-his-country.htm. Need a link if the trial was secret. (
Greg723 (
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02:45, 26 May 2014 (UTC)).reply
Misleading claims about the possibility of Japan invading Russia
Under the heading "biography", the fourth paragraph makes this rather astonishing claim: "Ozaki learned that Japan wanted to avoid a war with the Soviet Union, and let Sorge know of it. This information proved to be of utmost importance for the whole history of the Second World War..." (emphasis added). That is certainly one way of looking at it, but it is not one held by historians outside of Japan. First, most countries "want to avoid war" with other countries, but mere "avoidance" was hardly the dynamic here. Japan and Russia signed the
Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact on 13 April, 1941, which pledged Russia's respect for Manchuria being Japanese territory in exchange for Japan respecting Russia's possession of Mongolia and Siberia. But when on 22 June of that year Germany broke the
Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and invaded Russia in
Operation Barbarossa, Japan began planning to invade Russian territory and by 7 July, Emperor Hirohito approved the plans. See
Kantokuen. The
Imperial Japanese Army leadership had long favored an invasion to the north, east and west of Manchuko (see
Hokushin-ron), even if this was officially put on the back burner after the signing of the Neutrality Pact. But the unstated and most significant factor was that the Imperial Japanese Navy, which at that time seemed unstoppable, had convinced the War Cabinet to focus instead on other invasions in the south, and these plans were supported by the Japanese industrialists who stood to profit more from them. On 25 August, 1941, Sorge sent his intel to Moscow: that Japan had decided to not invade Russia that year. To quote Sorge: "(Ozaki) was able to learn from circles closest to Konoye...that the High Command...discussed whether they should go to war with the USSR. They decided not to launch the war within this year, repeat, not to launch the war this year" (emphases added). To characterize this as "Japan want(ing) to avoid a war with the Soviet Union" is, at best misleading and at worst, ridiculous. It was certainly not because "Japan wanted to avoid a war".
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