This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
I think this should be merged with the Host Bar article, using "hostess bar" as the title as they are the more common and established of the two. Drcwright 03:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I merged host club into this. Did some copyediting, still needs a lot more. And more content. Drcwright 01:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
This article needs some content on the history of host(ess) bars, as well something on the possible health effects of such a line of work. Also, some mention of the different countries in which they are prominent Drcwright 03:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if people are following naming conventions, but "hostess bar" is not the right term. It's "hostess club." Second, there's a difference between ホステスクラブ and キャバクラ, the former being classier, the latter being trashier. (You're more likely to get explicit sexual talk (猥談), more revealing clothing, and greater tolerance for light fondling in a キャバクラ than in a ホステスクラブ.) (How do I know these things? I was a salaryman in Japan.) There's also another type of establishment called a "snack," which is far more common than either hostess clubs or kyabakura. They're all similar, though, and should probably be grouped under 水商売.
A few other problems:
Note that none of these above are 100%. Each establishment has its own rules and its own style. The above are general guidelines for definitions.
Oops! Forgot to sign. Madler 18:21, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there anyone who can find a reference for these being refered to as buymedrinkie bars? I know when I was in the far east, EVERYONE called them that, never was it called a hostess club, but I think it is primarily a military lingo. I would like to find a reference for it so this can be a little more accurated. Andishouldabeengone 11:13, 9 April 2007
If you never heard that term in your life then perhaps you need to go to Okinawa and not stay insulated by the posh part of Japan's that I am sure you are accustomed to. Plenty of guys in the military call it that. "Studying" Japan might not indicate that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.72.137.221 ( talk) 22:39, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
ive heard of juicy bars but not buymedrinkie bars. and juicy bars and hostess bars are not tha same.as juicy bars are more of a prostituion spot as hostess bars are not.
I've never heard "buymedrinkie" before either; and I have been to Okinawa many times. However, each to his own. When I go out into mizu shobai, I'm not looking for places with cheap drinks and low entry fees. 219.101.196.2 ( talk) 10:03, 2 February 2013 (UTC)Vainamoinen
Anyone else (dis)agree with merging this into the mizu shobai article? Discuss on mizu shobai talk Drcwright 23:36, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to one external link on
Host and hostess clubs. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{
Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 16:49, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to one external link on
Host and hostess clubs. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{
Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 07:22, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Host and hostess clubs. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.japantoday.com/jp/feature/1219When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 06:42, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Host and hostess clubs. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 15:37, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Host and hostess clubs. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/e/fr/tnks/Nni20091202D02JF992.htm{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/e/fr/tnks/Nni20091202D02JF992.htmWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 01:19, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
@ Ravenpuff recently moved this article from Host and hostess clubs to host and hostess club, citing WP:SINGULAR. I disagree with this move; the problem is that there is no single entity as a "host and hostess club" (that caters to to both men and women), only a "host club" or a "hostess club". So while I would agree with using the singular if there were separate articles located at host club and hostess club, I don't think a singular makes sense for this combined article. (I'm also not arguing that this article should be split; seems like they were merged a long time ago, and I don't think separate articles really would be particularly useful.) Unfortunately neither WP:SINGULAR nor WP:PLURAL specifically address this case, so I don't know if there's a clear precedent here. -- Pokechu22 ( talk) 19:41, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
I think this should be merged with the Host Bar article, using "hostess bar" as the title as they are the more common and established of the two. Drcwright 03:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I merged host club into this. Did some copyediting, still needs a lot more. And more content. Drcwright 01:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
This article needs some content on the history of host(ess) bars, as well something on the possible health effects of such a line of work. Also, some mention of the different countries in which they are prominent Drcwright 03:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if people are following naming conventions, but "hostess bar" is not the right term. It's "hostess club." Second, there's a difference between ホステスクラブ and キャバクラ, the former being classier, the latter being trashier. (You're more likely to get explicit sexual talk (猥談), more revealing clothing, and greater tolerance for light fondling in a キャバクラ than in a ホステスクラブ.) (How do I know these things? I was a salaryman in Japan.) There's also another type of establishment called a "snack," which is far more common than either hostess clubs or kyabakura. They're all similar, though, and should probably be grouped under 水商売.
A few other problems:
Note that none of these above are 100%. Each establishment has its own rules and its own style. The above are general guidelines for definitions.
Oops! Forgot to sign. Madler 18:21, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there anyone who can find a reference for these being refered to as buymedrinkie bars? I know when I was in the far east, EVERYONE called them that, never was it called a hostess club, but I think it is primarily a military lingo. I would like to find a reference for it so this can be a little more accurated. Andishouldabeengone 11:13, 9 April 2007
If you never heard that term in your life then perhaps you need to go to Okinawa and not stay insulated by the posh part of Japan's that I am sure you are accustomed to. Plenty of guys in the military call it that. "Studying" Japan might not indicate that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.72.137.221 ( talk) 22:39, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
ive heard of juicy bars but not buymedrinkie bars. and juicy bars and hostess bars are not tha same.as juicy bars are more of a prostituion spot as hostess bars are not.
I've never heard "buymedrinkie" before either; and I have been to Okinawa many times. However, each to his own. When I go out into mizu shobai, I'm not looking for places with cheap drinks and low entry fees. 219.101.196.2 ( talk) 10:03, 2 February 2013 (UTC)Vainamoinen
Anyone else (dis)agree with merging this into the mizu shobai article? Discuss on mizu shobai talk Drcwright 23:36, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to one external link on
Host and hostess clubs. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{
Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 16:49, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to one external link on
Host and hostess clubs. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{
Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 07:22, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Host and hostess clubs. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.japantoday.com/jp/feature/1219When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 06:42, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Host and hostess clubs. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 15:37, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Host and hostess clubs. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/e/fr/tnks/Nni20091202D02JF992.htm{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/e/fr/tnks/Nni20091202D02JF992.htmWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 01:19, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
@ Ravenpuff recently moved this article from Host and hostess clubs to host and hostess club, citing WP:SINGULAR. I disagree with this move; the problem is that there is no single entity as a "host and hostess club" (that caters to to both men and women), only a "host club" or a "hostess club". So while I would agree with using the singular if there were separate articles located at host club and hostess club, I don't think a singular makes sense for this combined article. (I'm also not arguing that this article should be split; seems like they were merged a long time ago, and I don't think separate articles really would be particularly useful.) Unfortunately neither WP:SINGULAR nor WP:PLURAL specifically address this case, so I don't know if there's a clear precedent here. -- Pokechu22 ( talk) 19:41, 27 December 2021 (UTC)