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It would be interesting to see a chart of the percentage of households that owned a car in various decades, in various countries. This would be helpful to get an idea of how the transportation system worked in each period. -- Beland ( talk) 06:00, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Hey folks, wouldn't be worth to say that the first theoretical prototypes of CARS were made by Isaac Newton and Da Vinci ?? I know about Newton that he built a car that could move forward on four wheels like a regular car, and it was controlled from the inside. Da vinci as well made a similar design. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goose friend ( talk • contribs) 01:14, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
In August, I added an image to the "Modern era" section of the article ( this version). I chose a 2011 Toyota Corolla because, being the best-selling model of all time, it is representative. Another user deleted the image, saying "a modern era automobile image is not needed, and no point in promoting a particular model". I disagree with the reversion, so I wanted to bring the topic up here. A modern image does add value to the article. Someone new to this topic is not getting a complete idea of how the appearance of cars has changed though the years because there is no image from the last 39 years (the most recent image in from 1974). Put differently, almost one-third of automobile history is missing from the images (if we start that history in 1886). An image of a contemporary automobile presents the most recent stage in automotive history, which has value for readers. Furthermore, having a contemporary image does not "promote a particular model" more than any of the other images in the article do. Consider the SUV article: having a Ford Explorer as the lead image does not serve as promotion or advertising; it is simply a representative SUV. Similarly, the Corolla would be a good choice for the modern image because the model is pervasive around the world. If we can reach consensus on this, we should restore the modern image. -- Albany NY ( talk) 02:41, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
For someone not familiar with the inner workings of the car, I was a bit disappointed to not find an answer within the article to a longtime mystery of mine: in front of antique/vintage cars, what is that handle called which has to be cranked every so often? Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 20:31, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Many pieces of equipment were not found on early cars or were of a more primitive design; some mention of developments might be made for each of these, perhaps with a link to the History section of an appropriate sub-article:
-- Beland ( talk) 01:19, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
"...and it would be 1965 and the Jensen FF before four-wheel drive was used on a production car."
I like that this statement is cited and all, but... why is the Willys-Overland CJ-2A not considered to be a production car? Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 20:59, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
"The need for global changes in energy sources and consumption to bring about sustainability and energy independence has led 21st century engineers to think once more about possibilities for steam use, if powered by modern energy sources controlled with computerized controls, such as advanced electric batteries, fuel cells, photovoltaics, biofuels, or others."
The above appears to be original research. I don't see why anyone would use steam as a force intermediary, given that steam must be generated from other sources of energy, sources that can now directly drive pistons or electric motors. I mean, just how exactly would a battery be used to power a steam engine...via resistance heat? This is thermodynamically ridiculous and I doubt any legitimate engineer would consider commercializing such a contraption. I suspect the above quote is from some conspiratorial nut trying to promote water as a clean energy "source" again. Fission would be the only reason why steam would make sense, but fission itself is a pipe dream due to the myriad practical and lethality issues associated with it.
Article says "1973–present Mercedes-Benz S-Class – Seat belt pretensioner, and electronic traction control system". The Buick Riviera had this in 1971. Traction_control_system#History 2001:56A:F414:D300:9897:942B:69A1:5916 ( talk) 19:19, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
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"The hydrogen fuel cell, one of the technologies hailed as a replacement for gasoline as an energy source for cars, was discovered in principle by Christian Friedrich Schönbein in 1838." Between 'technologies' and 'hailed' the word 'now' should be added ( Pamour ( talk) 22:21, 17 September 2016 (UTC)).
The following appears in the introduction: "After producing and selling the Model A in 1903, Ford Motor Company's Model T became the first mass produced automobile in 1908, focusing on affordability for the average consumer. By 1927 Ford produced over 15,000,000 Model T automobiles and only then developed the Model A."
This doesn't make sense to me. Did they produce and sell some other vehicle in 1903? Or were there 2 different Model A's? Jaydub99 ( talk) 18:44, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
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In a grammar exercise on a book I found cited in a timeline of the evolution of the car a certain "Summers and Ogle" pair who in 1830 build a car which was able to travel up to 35 mph. never heard of them, so I looked around. According to an online source, a patent was deposited in April 1830. I cannot find it here in the current text but I suppose that, if someone has a nice source, this information could be inserted.-- Alexmar983 ( talk) 10:45, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Steam powered in 1892? At the 1893 Chicago World's Fair, and in the film The Magnificent Ambersons (film)? [1] 2001:56A:F888:6B00:515D:470D:AB9A:6AE ( talk) 03:12, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
The article just looks like a gallery, also it goes like WW1 cars, WW2 cars, > electric cars. In that order.
Electric cars are older than WW1 make it an article with one time line, not several ones. For example French wikipedia has a rather good way of making a timeline, it's clearer about american use of cars, than the american article itself.
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I was wondering I can’t seem to see it how many different types of cars have been produced models for manufacturing. I’m sure there’s handbuilt 1 off cars that don’t count 2001:569:FBA3:E00:9D98:BA80:F95F:F8F5 ( talk) 00:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
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It would be interesting to see a chart of the percentage of households that owned a car in various decades, in various countries. This would be helpful to get an idea of how the transportation system worked in each period. -- Beland ( talk) 06:00, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Hey folks, wouldn't be worth to say that the first theoretical prototypes of CARS were made by Isaac Newton and Da Vinci ?? I know about Newton that he built a car that could move forward on four wheels like a regular car, and it was controlled from the inside. Da vinci as well made a similar design. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goose friend ( talk • contribs) 01:14, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
In August, I added an image to the "Modern era" section of the article ( this version). I chose a 2011 Toyota Corolla because, being the best-selling model of all time, it is representative. Another user deleted the image, saying "a modern era automobile image is not needed, and no point in promoting a particular model". I disagree with the reversion, so I wanted to bring the topic up here. A modern image does add value to the article. Someone new to this topic is not getting a complete idea of how the appearance of cars has changed though the years because there is no image from the last 39 years (the most recent image in from 1974). Put differently, almost one-third of automobile history is missing from the images (if we start that history in 1886). An image of a contemporary automobile presents the most recent stage in automotive history, which has value for readers. Furthermore, having a contemporary image does not "promote a particular model" more than any of the other images in the article do. Consider the SUV article: having a Ford Explorer as the lead image does not serve as promotion or advertising; it is simply a representative SUV. Similarly, the Corolla would be a good choice for the modern image because the model is pervasive around the world. If we can reach consensus on this, we should restore the modern image. -- Albany NY ( talk) 02:41, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
For someone not familiar with the inner workings of the car, I was a bit disappointed to not find an answer within the article to a longtime mystery of mine: in front of antique/vintage cars, what is that handle called which has to be cranked every so often? Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 20:31, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Many pieces of equipment were not found on early cars or were of a more primitive design; some mention of developments might be made for each of these, perhaps with a link to the History section of an appropriate sub-article:
-- Beland ( talk) 01:19, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
"...and it would be 1965 and the Jensen FF before four-wheel drive was used on a production car."
I like that this statement is cited and all, but... why is the Willys-Overland CJ-2A not considered to be a production car? Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 20:59, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
"The need for global changes in energy sources and consumption to bring about sustainability and energy independence has led 21st century engineers to think once more about possibilities for steam use, if powered by modern energy sources controlled with computerized controls, such as advanced electric batteries, fuel cells, photovoltaics, biofuels, or others."
The above appears to be original research. I don't see why anyone would use steam as a force intermediary, given that steam must be generated from other sources of energy, sources that can now directly drive pistons or electric motors. I mean, just how exactly would a battery be used to power a steam engine...via resistance heat? This is thermodynamically ridiculous and I doubt any legitimate engineer would consider commercializing such a contraption. I suspect the above quote is from some conspiratorial nut trying to promote water as a clean energy "source" again. Fission would be the only reason why steam would make sense, but fission itself is a pipe dream due to the myriad practical and lethality issues associated with it.
Article says "1973–present Mercedes-Benz S-Class – Seat belt pretensioner, and electronic traction control system". The Buick Riviera had this in 1971. Traction_control_system#History 2001:56A:F414:D300:9897:942B:69A1:5916 ( talk) 19:19, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
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"The hydrogen fuel cell, one of the technologies hailed as a replacement for gasoline as an energy source for cars, was discovered in principle by Christian Friedrich Schönbein in 1838." Between 'technologies' and 'hailed' the word 'now' should be added ( Pamour ( talk) 22:21, 17 September 2016 (UTC)).
The following appears in the introduction: "After producing and selling the Model A in 1903, Ford Motor Company's Model T became the first mass produced automobile in 1908, focusing on affordability for the average consumer. By 1927 Ford produced over 15,000,000 Model T automobiles and only then developed the Model A."
This doesn't make sense to me. Did they produce and sell some other vehicle in 1903? Or were there 2 different Model A's? Jaydub99 ( talk) 18:44, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
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In a grammar exercise on a book I found cited in a timeline of the evolution of the car a certain "Summers and Ogle" pair who in 1830 build a car which was able to travel up to 35 mph. never heard of them, so I looked around. According to an online source, a patent was deposited in April 1830. I cannot find it here in the current text but I suppose that, if someone has a nice source, this information could be inserted.-- Alexmar983 ( talk) 10:45, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Steam powered in 1892? At the 1893 Chicago World's Fair, and in the film The Magnificent Ambersons (film)? [1] 2001:56A:F888:6B00:515D:470D:AB9A:6AE ( talk) 03:12, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
The article just looks like a gallery, also it goes like WW1 cars, WW2 cars, > electric cars. In that order.
Electric cars are older than WW1 make it an article with one time line, not several ones. For example French wikipedia has a rather good way of making a timeline, it's clearer about american use of cars, than the american article itself.
-- 78.193.35.108 ( talk) 21:04, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
I was wondering I can’t seem to see it how many different types of cars have been produced models for manufacturing. I’m sure there’s handbuilt 1 off cars that don’t count 2001:569:FBA3:E00:9D98:BA80:F95F:F8F5 ( talk) 00:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)