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The result of the debate was Redirect to Hero (disambiguation) and request full protection. - Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 21:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
As detailed in this page's edit history, there is a dispute over whether this page should redirect to Heroes (TV series) or Hero (disambiguation). It originally redirected to Hero as the plural form of that word, but consensus was to redirect it to the dab page so that other uses—including, but not limited to the TV series—could be more easily found.
Secondarily, we need to decide and agree on whether this redirect should be fully protected from all edits or not. Full protection and consensus will avoid any further disputes. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 22:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Should the redirect page be protected or not? Add #'''Support''' or #'''Oppose''' and ~~~~ (an additional, brief comment is optional.)
Just an idea, maybe there should be a separate disambig page for "heroes" as opposed to "hero"? There are several articles with the "heroes" title, and the list on Hero (disambiguation) is getting rather long. -- TorriTorri( Talk to me!) 23:21, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree. Split the disambig pages and have links to each other. Aexia 23:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" or other opinion in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
Add any additional comments
I have reverted the change to the redirect for now. There was no formal closure to the debate, very little participation, and there is an active move discussion. We should wait for that process to complete as it may well affect the outcome here. Thoughts? -- Ckatz chat spy 18:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Comment: The redirect has been restored to the disambiguation page again, pending a consensus. There are currently two discussions under way which directly affect this change, and as such it should not be changed prematurely. -- Ckatz chat spy 01:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Commentary originally left above.
How can we get the ball rolling to have Heroes moved to Heroes_(disambiguation)? ( 71.178.144.33 16:26, 9 May 2007 (UTC))
Since there were no objections on the Hero (disambiguation) talk page, I removed the heroes names from that page. This redirect should now go to Heroes (disambiguation). -- Hasdrabion 13:04, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Please keep the subjects in order of importance. This is done one other disambig pages as well and there is really no point to have 95% of the users scroll through the page in order to find the thing that should have been placed on top. Alphabetical ordering is only appropriate if there are several things of equal importance on the page. The Heroes TV series or the Heroes of Might and Magic gaming series are much more evolved than the other pages listed, so there seems to be a bigger interest in these topics. -- 84.178.115.248 10:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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Please add {{db-move|Heroes (disambiguation)}} to the top of this redirect, or just move the malplaced (disambiguation) page here. --
JHunterJ
10:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I've been working on fixing pages that linked to the [[Heroes]] page to point them either here, or to the Heroes (TV series) article (or to the appropriate other article), but boy, there's a lot of them! So I'm taking a little break. If anyone else wants to finish that before I get back, that'd be great. I also realize, after having fixed the first 50, that most articles that I changed to point here should actually point to hero. So if nobody else does it I need to remember to change those too. This post is as much a reminder to myself as anything. Dansiman ( talk| Contribs) 22:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I've made an article for fan site Heroes Wiki in my userspace, which I have proposed moving to the mainspace. You can see it now at User:MiamiVolts/Heroes Wiki. Discussion on the move is at User talk:MiamiVolts/Heroes Wiki. Assuming the move goes through, I think Heroes Wiki would get added to the 'other uses' section of this page.-- MiamiVolts ( talk) 16:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
The usage of "Heroes" is up for discussion, see Talk:"Heroes" -- 70.24.250.103 ( talk) 01:01, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Complete List of all other Helix Appearances. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 13#Complete List of all other Helix Appearances until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Regards,
SONIC
678
00:33, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Heros(tv show). The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 15#Heros(tv show) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Gonnym (
talk)
09:52, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Heroes(TV Series). The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 15#Heroes(TV Series) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Gonnym (
talk)
09:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Heroes(TV series). The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 15#Heroes(TV series) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Gonnym (
talk)
09:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved -- JHunterJ ( talk) 13:19, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Heroes (disambiguation) → Heroes – I'm proposing that the move from 18 August is reversed and the page is moved back to its established title, which it had occupied for the past 13 years. The recent move (and subsequent retargeting to Hero) appear to have been done on the understanding that the plurals of common nouns should be expected to redirect to the singular. But there are good reasons why this wasn't the case here: "Heroes" is the name of a good number of songs, films, games and TV shows, many of them of continuing prominence and popularity. Most readers who search for this exact term are probably looking for one or another of these topics, rather than the the generic concept (and if they had been looking for it, they would have most likely used the singular anyway). This is further indicated by the enduring high views for the dab page [1] – one fifth as many as those for the article Hero (that's significantly higher than for most singular/plural pairings), and by a comparison of the views of the articles concerned. Just picking three prominent looking ones (out of about sixty linked on the dab page), they get between themselves five times as many views as Hero [2] (yes, views for popular culture topics shouldn't carry a great deal of weight, but they're still relevant; and recentisms here aren't really an issue: of these three articles, one is about a TV series that stopped running a decade ago, and the other two are about an album and a song from 1977.) – Uanfala (talk) 22:46, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Redirect to Hero (disambiguation) and request full protection. - Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 21:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
As detailed in this page's edit history, there is a dispute over whether this page should redirect to Heroes (TV series) or Hero (disambiguation). It originally redirected to Hero as the plural form of that word, but consensus was to redirect it to the dab page so that other uses—including, but not limited to the TV series—could be more easily found.
Secondarily, we need to decide and agree on whether this redirect should be fully protected from all edits or not. Full protection and consensus will avoid any further disputes. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 22:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Should the redirect page be protected or not? Add #'''Support''' or #'''Oppose''' and ~~~~ (an additional, brief comment is optional.)
Just an idea, maybe there should be a separate disambig page for "heroes" as opposed to "hero"? There are several articles with the "heroes" title, and the list on Hero (disambiguation) is getting rather long. -- TorriTorri( Talk to me!) 23:21, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree. Split the disambig pages and have links to each other. Aexia 23:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" or other opinion in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
Add any additional comments
I have reverted the change to the redirect for now. There was no formal closure to the debate, very little participation, and there is an active move discussion. We should wait for that process to complete as it may well affect the outcome here. Thoughts? -- Ckatz chat spy 18:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Comment: The redirect has been restored to the disambiguation page again, pending a consensus. There are currently two discussions under way which directly affect this change, and as such it should not be changed prematurely. -- Ckatz chat spy 01:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Commentary originally left above.
How can we get the ball rolling to have Heroes moved to Heroes_(disambiguation)? ( 71.178.144.33 16:26, 9 May 2007 (UTC))
Since there were no objections on the Hero (disambiguation) talk page, I removed the heroes names from that page. This redirect should now go to Heroes (disambiguation). -- Hasdrabion 13:04, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Please keep the subjects in order of importance. This is done one other disambig pages as well and there is really no point to have 95% of the users scroll through the page in order to find the thing that should have been placed on top. Alphabetical ordering is only appropriate if there are several things of equal importance on the page. The Heroes TV series or the Heroes of Might and Magic gaming series are much more evolved than the other pages listed, so there seems to be a bigger interest in these topics. -- 84.178.115.248 10:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please add {{db-move|Heroes (disambiguation)}} to the top of this redirect, or just move the malplaced (disambiguation) page here. --
JHunterJ
10:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I've been working on fixing pages that linked to the [[Heroes]] page to point them either here, or to the Heroes (TV series) article (or to the appropriate other article), but boy, there's a lot of them! So I'm taking a little break. If anyone else wants to finish that before I get back, that'd be great. I also realize, after having fixed the first 50, that most articles that I changed to point here should actually point to hero. So if nobody else does it I need to remember to change those too. This post is as much a reminder to myself as anything. Dansiman ( talk| Contribs) 22:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I've made an article for fan site Heroes Wiki in my userspace, which I have proposed moving to the mainspace. You can see it now at User:MiamiVolts/Heroes Wiki. Discussion on the move is at User talk:MiamiVolts/Heroes Wiki. Assuming the move goes through, I think Heroes Wiki would get added to the 'other uses' section of this page.-- MiamiVolts ( talk) 16:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
The usage of "Heroes" is up for discussion, see Talk:"Heroes" -- 70.24.250.103 ( talk) 01:01, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Complete List of all other Helix Appearances. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 13#Complete List of all other Helix Appearances until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Regards,
SONIC
678
00:33, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Heros(tv show). The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 15#Heros(tv show) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Gonnym (
talk)
09:52, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Heroes(TV Series). The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 15#Heroes(TV Series) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Gonnym (
talk)
09:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Heroes(TV series). The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 15#Heroes(TV series) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Gonnym (
talk)
09:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved -- JHunterJ ( talk) 13:19, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Heroes (disambiguation) → Heroes – I'm proposing that the move from 18 August is reversed and the page is moved back to its established title, which it had occupied for the past 13 years. The recent move (and subsequent retargeting to Hero) appear to have been done on the understanding that the plurals of common nouns should be expected to redirect to the singular. But there are good reasons why this wasn't the case here: "Heroes" is the name of a good number of songs, films, games and TV shows, many of them of continuing prominence and popularity. Most readers who search for this exact term are probably looking for one or another of these topics, rather than the the generic concept (and if they had been looking for it, they would have most likely used the singular anyway). This is further indicated by the enduring high views for the dab page [1] – one fifth as many as those for the article Hero (that's significantly higher than for most singular/plural pairings), and by a comparison of the views of the articles concerned. Just picking three prominent looking ones (out of about sixty linked on the dab page), they get between themselves five times as many views as Hero [2] (yes, views for popular culture topics shouldn't carry a great deal of weight, but they're still relevant; and recentisms here aren't really an issue: of these three articles, one is about a TV series that stopped running a decade ago, and the other two are about an album and a song from 1977.) – Uanfala (talk) 22:46, 29 August 2020 (UTC)