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In the cited article given, there is no verification that the protesters are all "conservative group members and supporters of President Trump", as the article implies. Indeed, anyone who attended the rally knows that disgruntled democratic voters attended as well. This gives the impression that the article is trying to paint a picture of a one-sided protest instead of disapproval of the mayor's handling of the situation. It is impossible to know that all 3,000 to 4,000 were of the same political leaning, and it is also irresponsible to definitively affirm that they were as such.
Agreed and corrected thank you for your concern
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So, apparently, (per this edit summary) this needs to be discussed here. I have significant concerns about the nature of many of the sources in this paragraph, especially the Free Beacon. Might I suggest that, if this is considered at all notable (and I'm not convinced as yet that it is - it seems a bit too recentest for my liking) that we adopt some more neutral sourcing? Newsweek seems fine, and there's an article in the Detroit News - I can't find a balancing one in the Freep but don't have my VLE fired up so can't access much of it just now. A rather more neutral tone to the start of the paragraph would also be helpful I think - it seems to blow it out of proportion a little. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 14:33, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Agree that this warrants inclusion with a better source like Newsweek. I encourage Charles Shirley (original editor) to re-insert his edit but with more encyclopedic wording (as blue square thing pointed out). Bsubprime7 ( talk) 17:19, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
I removed nothing. Of the sources you eventually included, I'd credit Newsweek as being balanced, but I'd want some balance to the others that were in the article - the Freep article is a good way to balance this against the News, for example. Given that this diff of yours redid edits that only used the Free Beacon as a source, I sort of think you might need to make sure you work on balance in the first instance - particularly as your edit summary specifically argues that the Free Beacon is a reliable source. It's about balance. Everything is. It doesn't matter if you like her or dislike her, balance your sources. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 20:19, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. Doug Weller talk 11:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
There is no mention that her entire campaign focused on fixing the damn roads. During the campaign her opponent bill Schuette accused her of planning a 20+ cent gas tax to pay for her road plan, which he flat out labeled ridiculous in the debate. After taking office she then proposed a gas tax that was roughly double the number Schuette accused her of planning. To date, she has accomplished nothing towards fixing the damn roads. She did however cancel the Pure Michigan marketing campaign, a highly successful campaign that returned $9 for every $1 invested in marketing Michigan’s biggest industry. ErwinMFletcher ( talk) 15:45, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
"The protests were criticized as illogical and incoherent; Charlie Warzel of The New York Times described them as "a twisted, paranoid and racialized" event pushed by conspiracy theorists such as Alex Jones. Polling by the Detroit Regional Chamber in mid-April found that 57% of Michigan residents approve of Whitmer's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, including the extension. The family of the first child to die of coronavirus in Michigan expressed support for Whitmer's decision to extend the stay-at-home order, and noted that social distancing would save lives. LaVondria Herbert, the child's mother, said "I want to say thank you to the governor for making people go home."
This is bordering on parody-levels. How is this relevant to the incident at all? Clearly this section needs heavy revision if it has allowed this kind of tripe to pass through its gates. MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken ( talk) 07:47, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic. If you think it's not a "significant view" that the mother of a child who died from coronavirus supports Whitmer's actions to prevent the spread of coronavirus... well, take that up with the multiple reliable sources which published articles discussing her point of view ranging from Fox News to PoliceOne (her parents are a police officer and a firefighter). Your personal opinion that
it's clearly an appeal toward emotionis not relevant. Wikipedia articles are not required to be devoid of emotion. Whether or not it
pushes the narrative in favor of Whitmeris up to the reader. NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 16:25, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
not gonna fix it because i don't want to make an account/push things as far as neutrality goes, but I fail to see how that factoid is significant 17:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.203.217 ( talk)
So I've been holding my tongue regarding this article and have left it for a short period of time, upon returning, however, its clear its in an even worse state of affairs than it was two weeks ago when I last made an observation.
First things first, "Covid-19 epidemic leadership". Where do I start.
"In 2020, Cuomo received widespread praise from epidemiologists for his handling of the evolving COVID-19 pandemic in New York State, which includes a state-wide lockdown and a shutdown of non-essential businesses in an effort to help flatten the curve of the virus. Like many other national leaders, however, Cuomo also received criticism for apparently failing to grasp the gravity of the pandemic before its risks were fully visible to the American public."
Short and sweet, evenhanded, and get's the point across. Getting back to this article, it's a total mess, any reader who gets on this article and reads, "The protests were described as "twisted, paranoid and racialized", pushed by conspiracy theorists such as Alex Jones," is going to go, "Gee, I'm guessing whoever added that has a strong opinion regarding this." I forgot Wikipedia was the place where we use opinion articles as citations now.
Then we jump a few lines below and we're graced with this.
"In late March, Whitmer gained national attention when Trump was reported to have told Vice President Mike Pence, "don't call the woman in Michigan", ostensibly in response to Whitmer's earlier criticisms of the Trump administration's initial response to the crisis. Whitmer responded by embracing that description of her, including wearing a "That Woman from Michigan" T-shirt on an April 1 Daily Show interview with Trevor Noah. In late April, Saturday Night Live comedian Cecily Strong portrayed Whitmer in a skit that referenced both the Trump incident and the Lansing protests. In May, Detroit rap artist GMAC Cash released "Big Gretch", a song praising Whitmer's response to the pandemic in Michigan."
Is it possible to be more irrelevant and inconsequential? SNL skits and a rap group that doesn't even have a Wikipedia page are the most unencyclopedic things you could ever think of to put into this kind of article. MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken ( talk) 04:19, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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Briefly summarizing, a disagreement has arose regarding content within the COVID-19 subheading of Whitmer's article. Most of my points have already been established regarding why it needs major revision above, but I'll quickly restate myself starting with the subheading itself:
Now, NorthBySouthBaranof has argued against the inclusion of the protestors, claiming they are a "small minority viewpoint". Despite this, he agrees to include the judge's decision, which is inherently linked to the protests, and aren't even in favor of the protests as it is. When I brought it back for the shake of context, NorthBySouth decided to bring back the emotional appeal of a dead child's mother's testimony. Not only does this affect the NPOV of this article, it contradicts NorthBySouth regarding what constitutes a "small minority viewpoint".
I propose we revert back to my edit here excluding the SNL and rap group fluff, which we both agreed is irrelevant already. MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken ( talk) 20:10, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
In March 2020 Whitmer issued a stay-at-home order in response to the coronavirus pandemic.[39] A poll that month found that 69% of Michigan residents supported Whitmer's actions.[40] After the governor extended and tightened the restrictions in April,[41][42] an eight-hour protest against the restrictions organized by the Michigan Conservative Coalition and co-hosted by the Michigan Freedom Fund[43][44] attracted between 3,000 and 4,000 protesters to the Michigan State Capitol.[45][46][47] On April 29 a Michigan judge upheld Whitmer's order against a legal challenge, ruling that "Our fellow residents have an interest to remain unharmed by a highly communicable and deadly virus."[49] Polling by the Detroit Regional Chamber in mid-April found that 57% of Michigan residents approved of Whitmer's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, including the extension.[1][2][3][4] In late March, Whitmer gained national attention when President Trump was reported to have told Vice President Mike Pence, "don't call the woman in Michigan" in response to Whitmer's earlier criticisms of the Trump administration's initial response to the crisis.[51][52] Whitmer responded by wearing a "That Woman from Michigan" T-shirt on an April 1 Daily Show interview with Trevor Noah.
political expression of opposition? NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 03:53, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
"twisted, paranoid and racialized", pushed by conspiracy theorists such as Alex Jonesand the statement from the mother of the first child victim of COVID-19 in the state. NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 04:33, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia should not present a dispute as if a view held by a small minority is as significant as the majority view.It is clear that the view of the protestors is that of a minority, and a fairly small minority at that. Our article must reflect that, and give greater prominence and space to the view that Whitmer's actions were proper, appropriate, lawful, and necessary. NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 07:00, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you don't like our policies. But our policies are clear. We cannot present the minority position of the protestors as if it deserves as much space or credence as the majority of view of those who support the stay-at-home orders. NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 13:50, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
It hasn't been an epidemic in several weeks? Space4Time3Continuum2x ( talk) 15:15, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
A CBS article mentions that Gretchen has been in touch with Bidens campaign and has had an opening conversation about consideration about being considered for vice-pres, I just didnt know where to add it in since the formatting is a little odd on this article, I didnt know whether it would fit into an already made section or if a new one should be formed. I do care about formatting a bit so wanted to check with you all here first. Let me know your thoughts, I think its noteworthy, definitely if she formally gets asked, but let me know. Eruditess ( talk) 01:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
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What is her familiy background? German? Israeli? Or both? - Or something else? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:16B8:C129:3F00:4921:B380:861B:D978 ( talk) 02:26, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Can someone revert this nonsense? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.109.32.163 ( talk) 18:53, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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The main photo is low quality and unprofessional, I think she deserves Wikipedia using her official state headshot. Andrewjbacker ( talk) 04:46, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Michigan.gov is for personal and non-commercial use only. You may not modify, copy, distribute, display, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell, or transfer information, products, or services obtained from Michigan.gov unless the law otherwise provides or the State gives you prior written permission.here, it seems to not be under a suitable license. If someone wants to, requesting explicit permission might be an option. Best, Blablubbs ( talk • contribs) 20:21, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
The article currently contains a link to a non-existent article about impeachment proceedings against Whitmer. There are three issues with this:
1. There is no point in specifically creating a place for a link to a non-existent article. It does not help the reader gain any information.
2. As of November 19th, 2020 there have not been any "impeachment proceedings" per se and it is not clear if there will be any. A motion was introduced to the Michigan House but it's not clear whether that motion will gain any traction given that it is apparently not broadly supported within Republicans, not to mention Democrats.
3. Any proposed or ongoing impeachment proceedings against Whitmer are not mentioned in the main article, so there is no introduction into the topic.
For these reasons I feel that it is premature to have a "see also" link for a non-existent article about impeachment proceedings. If and when any such proceedings occur, they may merit their own article and corresponding mention in this one.
Until then, it may be reasonable to, at most, briefly mention that some members of the Michigan state House have introduced a motion concerning impeachment proceedings which has yet to advance through the legislative process: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/18/whitmer-impeachment-resolution-introduced-but-key-republicans-oppose/3767778001/.
104.13.110.123 ( talk) 14:48, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Various editors have proposed qualification to the subsection title. Another (apparently teenaged) editor keeps removing them, usually with a non-specific edit summary such as 'ce'. Or no summary at all.
The Governor has not been impeached. This resolution was "introduced" (the technical term), a mere announcement without substance. It has not so far been assigned a committee. It is not expected to have any action during the lame duck session. There are no "proceedings". There are only 3 sponsors, and no co-sponsors, of 110 house members. The leaders of the house and senate have denounced it as shameful.
As the consensus of editors has indicated, the unqualified subsection title of "Impeachment" or "Impeachment resolution" shall not stand. Further such edits will be reported as vandalism.
William Allen Simpson (
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It's rather strange, that we don't have Impeachment resolution as sub-heading in the Mike DeWine article. Both governors have faced virtually the same situation. GoodDay ( talk) 16:12, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
This subsection is now removed. It was never "resolved" by the legislature, therefore was not a "resolution". The companion article was
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On November 18, 2020, three Republican members of the Michigan House of Representatives introduced House Resolution No. 324 in an attempt to impeach Whitmer. [1] [2] [3] The state senate majority leader and state house speaker (both Republicans) opposed calls for impeachment, calling them "shameful". The resolution was "dead on arrival", as the legislature was adjourned and not expected to take action in a lame-duck session. [3] [4] [5]
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How come the fact that she's vice chair of the Democratic national committee isn't in the infobox? SRD625 ( talk) 18:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
It’s in the infobox for Keith Ellison who was the previous vice chair and also notable about that this information is not on any other Wikipedia article SRD625 ( talk) 09:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
A varying IP user (IPv6 addresses change from time to time) has repeatedly changed the honorific prefix parameter to variations of "The Honorable" and "Her Excellency".
"The Honorable" is only used in the US for former officeholders, and current judges. There are no "Excellencies".
The current Governor is always "Governor".
By convention the correct prefix as a former state Governor will always be "Governor", as "President" for former US Presidents.
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In the section State Legislature > House of Representatives it states that Governor Whitmer ran for office in the 1990s, that is untrue she did not run for office in 2000 as shown by this page /info/en/?search=Electoral_history_of_Gretchen_Whitmer#State_House — Preceding unsigned comment added by Broadwaybabbee ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
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The citation for citation 99's link is out of date:
Change link: " https://www.bridgemi.com/public-sector/what-michigan-schools-will-look-under-governor-whitmer-or-schuette" to " https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/what-michigan-schools-will-look-under-governor-whitmer-or-schuette"
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The kidnapping verdict section refers to two of the federal defendants as "being acquitted on the basis of entrapment." This is not correct, the jury verdict made no finding on what basis the jury acquitted Caserta and Harris.
A more correct statement would be simply to state two of the defendants were acquitted. In fact, Judge Jonker granted a motion in limine to prevent the entrapment defense from being pursued by any of the defendants, and the only mention at the first trial to the contrary came after several defense opening statements opened the door for the Government to put on predisposition evidence, which happened outside the presence of the jury. 2603:8080:7703:9A6:3DDB:BB08:991C:5F6B ( talk) 02:34, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
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The statement "She has spoken against single-payer healthcare as unrealistic" is misleading and should be removed; the source only said she opposed El-Sayed's plan to pass single-payer health care in Michigan on the state level because it was unrealistic and she expressed support for the idea of Medicare For All "in concept" on the federal level in the same interview, albeit a version that allows people to keep private insurance. 72.74.36.97 ( talk) 03:58, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
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Filemon Vela Jr. is no longer a Vice Chair of the DNC. JoeRoosh ( talk) 03:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
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In the early life section, please remove the Geni source provided as this is a user generated website. 2600:100C:A219:7127:B052:84F1:B47D:6776 ( talk) 11:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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In the cited article given, there is no verification that the protesters are all "conservative group members and supporters of President Trump", as the article implies. Indeed, anyone who attended the rally knows that disgruntled democratic voters attended as well. This gives the impression that the article is trying to paint a picture of a one-sided protest instead of disapproval of the mayor's handling of the situation. It is impossible to know that all 3,000 to 4,000 were of the same political leaning, and it is also irresponsible to definitively affirm that they were as such.
Agreed and corrected thank you for your concern
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So, apparently, (per this edit summary) this needs to be discussed here. I have significant concerns about the nature of many of the sources in this paragraph, especially the Free Beacon. Might I suggest that, if this is considered at all notable (and I'm not convinced as yet that it is - it seems a bit too recentest for my liking) that we adopt some more neutral sourcing? Newsweek seems fine, and there's an article in the Detroit News - I can't find a balancing one in the Freep but don't have my VLE fired up so can't access much of it just now. A rather more neutral tone to the start of the paragraph would also be helpful I think - it seems to blow it out of proportion a little. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 14:33, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Agree that this warrants inclusion with a better source like Newsweek. I encourage Charles Shirley (original editor) to re-insert his edit but with more encyclopedic wording (as blue square thing pointed out). Bsubprime7 ( talk) 17:19, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
I removed nothing. Of the sources you eventually included, I'd credit Newsweek as being balanced, but I'd want some balance to the others that were in the article - the Freep article is a good way to balance this against the News, for example. Given that this diff of yours redid edits that only used the Free Beacon as a source, I sort of think you might need to make sure you work on balance in the first instance - particularly as your edit summary specifically argues that the Free Beacon is a reliable source. It's about balance. Everything is. It doesn't matter if you like her or dislike her, balance your sources. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 20:19, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. Doug Weller talk 11:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
There is no mention that her entire campaign focused on fixing the damn roads. During the campaign her opponent bill Schuette accused her of planning a 20+ cent gas tax to pay for her road plan, which he flat out labeled ridiculous in the debate. After taking office she then proposed a gas tax that was roughly double the number Schuette accused her of planning. To date, she has accomplished nothing towards fixing the damn roads. She did however cancel the Pure Michigan marketing campaign, a highly successful campaign that returned $9 for every $1 invested in marketing Michigan’s biggest industry. ErwinMFletcher ( talk) 15:45, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
"The protests were criticized as illogical and incoherent; Charlie Warzel of The New York Times described them as "a twisted, paranoid and racialized" event pushed by conspiracy theorists such as Alex Jones. Polling by the Detroit Regional Chamber in mid-April found that 57% of Michigan residents approve of Whitmer's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, including the extension. The family of the first child to die of coronavirus in Michigan expressed support for Whitmer's decision to extend the stay-at-home order, and noted that social distancing would save lives. LaVondria Herbert, the child's mother, said "I want to say thank you to the governor for making people go home."
This is bordering on parody-levels. How is this relevant to the incident at all? Clearly this section needs heavy revision if it has allowed this kind of tripe to pass through its gates. MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken ( talk) 07:47, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic. If you think it's not a "significant view" that the mother of a child who died from coronavirus supports Whitmer's actions to prevent the spread of coronavirus... well, take that up with the multiple reliable sources which published articles discussing her point of view ranging from Fox News to PoliceOne (her parents are a police officer and a firefighter). Your personal opinion that
it's clearly an appeal toward emotionis not relevant. Wikipedia articles are not required to be devoid of emotion. Whether or not it
pushes the narrative in favor of Whitmeris up to the reader. NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 16:25, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
not gonna fix it because i don't want to make an account/push things as far as neutrality goes, but I fail to see how that factoid is significant 17:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.203.217 ( talk)
So I've been holding my tongue regarding this article and have left it for a short period of time, upon returning, however, its clear its in an even worse state of affairs than it was two weeks ago when I last made an observation.
First things first, "Covid-19 epidemic leadership". Where do I start.
"In 2020, Cuomo received widespread praise from epidemiologists for his handling of the evolving COVID-19 pandemic in New York State, which includes a state-wide lockdown and a shutdown of non-essential businesses in an effort to help flatten the curve of the virus. Like many other national leaders, however, Cuomo also received criticism for apparently failing to grasp the gravity of the pandemic before its risks were fully visible to the American public."
Short and sweet, evenhanded, and get's the point across. Getting back to this article, it's a total mess, any reader who gets on this article and reads, "The protests were described as "twisted, paranoid and racialized", pushed by conspiracy theorists such as Alex Jones," is going to go, "Gee, I'm guessing whoever added that has a strong opinion regarding this." I forgot Wikipedia was the place where we use opinion articles as citations now.
Then we jump a few lines below and we're graced with this.
"In late March, Whitmer gained national attention when Trump was reported to have told Vice President Mike Pence, "don't call the woman in Michigan", ostensibly in response to Whitmer's earlier criticisms of the Trump administration's initial response to the crisis. Whitmer responded by embracing that description of her, including wearing a "That Woman from Michigan" T-shirt on an April 1 Daily Show interview with Trevor Noah. In late April, Saturday Night Live comedian Cecily Strong portrayed Whitmer in a skit that referenced both the Trump incident and the Lansing protests. In May, Detroit rap artist GMAC Cash released "Big Gretch", a song praising Whitmer's response to the pandemic in Michigan."
Is it possible to be more irrelevant and inconsequential? SNL skits and a rap group that doesn't even have a Wikipedia page are the most unencyclopedic things you could ever think of to put into this kind of article. MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken ( talk) 04:19, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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Briefly summarizing, a disagreement has arose regarding content within the COVID-19 subheading of Whitmer's article. Most of my points have already been established regarding why it needs major revision above, but I'll quickly restate myself starting with the subheading itself:
Now, NorthBySouthBaranof has argued against the inclusion of the protestors, claiming they are a "small minority viewpoint". Despite this, he agrees to include the judge's decision, which is inherently linked to the protests, and aren't even in favor of the protests as it is. When I brought it back for the shake of context, NorthBySouth decided to bring back the emotional appeal of a dead child's mother's testimony. Not only does this affect the NPOV of this article, it contradicts NorthBySouth regarding what constitutes a "small minority viewpoint".
I propose we revert back to my edit here excluding the SNL and rap group fluff, which we both agreed is irrelevant already. MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken ( talk) 20:10, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
In March 2020 Whitmer issued a stay-at-home order in response to the coronavirus pandemic.[39] A poll that month found that 69% of Michigan residents supported Whitmer's actions.[40] After the governor extended and tightened the restrictions in April,[41][42] an eight-hour protest against the restrictions organized by the Michigan Conservative Coalition and co-hosted by the Michigan Freedom Fund[43][44] attracted between 3,000 and 4,000 protesters to the Michigan State Capitol.[45][46][47] On April 29 a Michigan judge upheld Whitmer's order against a legal challenge, ruling that "Our fellow residents have an interest to remain unharmed by a highly communicable and deadly virus."[49] Polling by the Detroit Regional Chamber in mid-April found that 57% of Michigan residents approved of Whitmer's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, including the extension.[1][2][3][4] In late March, Whitmer gained national attention when President Trump was reported to have told Vice President Mike Pence, "don't call the woman in Michigan" in response to Whitmer's earlier criticisms of the Trump administration's initial response to the crisis.[51][52] Whitmer responded by wearing a "That Woman from Michigan" T-shirt on an April 1 Daily Show interview with Trevor Noah.
political expression of opposition? NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 03:53, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
"twisted, paranoid and racialized", pushed by conspiracy theorists such as Alex Jonesand the statement from the mother of the first child victim of COVID-19 in the state. NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 04:33, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia should not present a dispute as if a view held by a small minority is as significant as the majority view.It is clear that the view of the protestors is that of a minority, and a fairly small minority at that. Our article must reflect that, and give greater prominence and space to the view that Whitmer's actions were proper, appropriate, lawful, and necessary. NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 07:00, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you don't like our policies. But our policies are clear. We cannot present the minority position of the protestors as if it deserves as much space or credence as the majority of view of those who support the stay-at-home orders. NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 13:50, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
It hasn't been an epidemic in several weeks? Space4Time3Continuum2x ( talk) 15:15, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
A CBS article mentions that Gretchen has been in touch with Bidens campaign and has had an opening conversation about consideration about being considered for vice-pres, I just didnt know where to add it in since the formatting is a little odd on this article, I didnt know whether it would fit into an already made section or if a new one should be formed. I do care about formatting a bit so wanted to check with you all here first. Let me know your thoughts, I think its noteworthy, definitely if she formally gets asked, but let me know. Eruditess ( talk) 01:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Should the section regarding the kidnapping plot not display:
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What is her familiy background? German? Israeli? Or both? - Or something else? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:16B8:C129:3F00:4921:B380:861B:D978 ( talk) 02:26, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Can someone revert this nonsense? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.109.32.163 ( talk) 18:53, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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The main photo is low quality and unprofessional, I think she deserves Wikipedia using her official state headshot. Andrewjbacker ( talk) 04:46, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Michigan.gov is for personal and non-commercial use only. You may not modify, copy, distribute, display, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell, or transfer information, products, or services obtained from Michigan.gov unless the law otherwise provides or the State gives you prior written permission.here, it seems to not be under a suitable license. If someone wants to, requesting explicit permission might be an option. Best, Blablubbs ( talk • contribs) 20:21, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
The article currently contains a link to a non-existent article about impeachment proceedings against Whitmer. There are three issues with this:
1. There is no point in specifically creating a place for a link to a non-existent article. It does not help the reader gain any information.
2. As of November 19th, 2020 there have not been any "impeachment proceedings" per se and it is not clear if there will be any. A motion was introduced to the Michigan House but it's not clear whether that motion will gain any traction given that it is apparently not broadly supported within Republicans, not to mention Democrats.
3. Any proposed or ongoing impeachment proceedings against Whitmer are not mentioned in the main article, so there is no introduction into the topic.
For these reasons I feel that it is premature to have a "see also" link for a non-existent article about impeachment proceedings. If and when any such proceedings occur, they may merit their own article and corresponding mention in this one.
Until then, it may be reasonable to, at most, briefly mention that some members of the Michigan state House have introduced a motion concerning impeachment proceedings which has yet to advance through the legislative process: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/18/whitmer-impeachment-resolution-introduced-but-key-republicans-oppose/3767778001/.
104.13.110.123 ( talk) 14:48, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Various editors have proposed qualification to the subsection title. Another (apparently teenaged) editor keeps removing them, usually with a non-specific edit summary such as 'ce'. Or no summary at all.
The Governor has not been impeached. This resolution was "introduced" (the technical term), a mere announcement without substance. It has not so far been assigned a committee. It is not expected to have any action during the lame duck session. There are no "proceedings". There are only 3 sponsors, and no co-sponsors, of 110 house members. The leaders of the house and senate have denounced it as shameful.
As the consensus of editors has indicated, the unqualified subsection title of "Impeachment" or "Impeachment resolution" shall not stand. Further such edits will be reported as vandalism.
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It's rather strange, that we don't have Impeachment resolution as sub-heading in the Mike DeWine article. Both governors have faced virtually the same situation. GoodDay ( talk) 16:12, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
This subsection is now removed. It was never "resolved" by the legislature, therefore was not a "resolution". The companion article was
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On November 18, 2020, three Republican members of the Michigan House of Representatives introduced House Resolution No. 324 in an attempt to impeach Whitmer. [1] [2] [3] The state senate majority leader and state house speaker (both Republicans) opposed calls for impeachment, calling them "shameful". The resolution was "dead on arrival", as the legislature was adjourned and not expected to take action in a lame-duck session. [3] [4] [5]
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How come the fact that she's vice chair of the Democratic national committee isn't in the infobox? SRD625 ( talk) 18:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
It’s in the infobox for Keith Ellison who was the previous vice chair and also notable about that this information is not on any other Wikipedia article SRD625 ( talk) 09:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
A varying IP user (IPv6 addresses change from time to time) has repeatedly changed the honorific prefix parameter to variations of "The Honorable" and "Her Excellency".
"The Honorable" is only used in the US for former officeholders, and current judges. There are no "Excellencies".
The current Governor is always "Governor".
By convention the correct prefix as a former state Governor will always be "Governor", as "President" for former US Presidents.
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In the section State Legislature > House of Representatives it states that Governor Whitmer ran for office in the 1990s, that is untrue she did not run for office in 2000 as shown by this page /info/en/?search=Electoral_history_of_Gretchen_Whitmer#State_House — Preceding unsigned comment added by Broadwaybabbee ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
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The citation for citation 99's link is out of date:
Change link: " https://www.bridgemi.com/public-sector/what-michigan-schools-will-look-under-governor-whitmer-or-schuette" to " https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/what-michigan-schools-will-look-under-governor-whitmer-or-schuette"
Thank you ☺ Vimb20 ( talk) 04:41, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
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The kidnapping verdict section refers to two of the federal defendants as "being acquitted on the basis of entrapment." This is not correct, the jury verdict made no finding on what basis the jury acquitted Caserta and Harris.
A more correct statement would be simply to state two of the defendants were acquitted. In fact, Judge Jonker granted a motion in limine to prevent the entrapment defense from being pursued by any of the defendants, and the only mention at the first trial to the contrary came after several defense opening statements opened the door for the Government to put on predisposition evidence, which happened outside the presence of the jury. 2603:8080:7703:9A6:3DDB:BB08:991C:5F6B ( talk) 02:34, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
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The statement "She has spoken against single-payer healthcare as unrealistic" is misleading and should be removed; the source only said she opposed El-Sayed's plan to pass single-payer health care in Michigan on the state level because it was unrealistic and she expressed support for the idea of Medicare For All "in concept" on the federal level in the same interview, albeit a version that allows people to keep private insurance. 72.74.36.97 ( talk) 03:58, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
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Filemon Vela Jr. is no longer a Vice Chair of the DNC. JoeRoosh ( talk) 03:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
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In the early life section, please remove the Geni source provided as this is a user generated website. 2600:100C:A219:7127:B052:84F1:B47D:6776 ( talk) 11:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)