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Re "destroyed both its base and, according to (most/some), its ideological validity" I don't want to get into an edit war, so let me explain myself. Jayjg, could you also explain why you feel so strongly about "most"? I'm not disputing that the Bund lost most of its support after the war, I'm disputing that most people think that it lots its ideological validity. They're different things, and I Think that the word "most" here is POV. (Incidentially, there were still Bundist haggadot being published in the US after the war, suggesting enough supporters still around to sustain book publishing.) Serious historians debate the cause the rise of Zionism among Holocaust survivors, but to suggest (as I think the current wording of the article does) that "most" people were liberated from concentration camps and said "oops, I guess the Bund didn't help, I guess I'll go to Israel" is historically inaccurate. -- Remes 15:32, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The first paragraph currently starts with "The General Jewish Labour Union of Lithuania, Poland and Russia, in Yiddish the Algemeyner Yidisher Arbeter Bund in Lite, Poyln un Rusland". However the actual Yiddish name that's given in parentheses appears to be "Algemeyner Yidisher Arbitersbund ayn Rusland, Lite, und Poyln." Can someone who (unlike me) actually speaks the language or is familiar with the subject fix this or clarify the discrepancy? Zyqqh 11:45, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
There was a long discussion about this when I first wrote this article, in which several editors highly competent in Yiddish got involved. The conclusions were (a) that Yiddish is an unstable language with several regional variants and also no fixed transliteration into the Roman alphabet and (b) that there is no one historically "correct" rendering of the name. The current version is the one they seemed to agree was least objectionable. User:Danny, if he's still around, would be able to tell you more. Adam 22:16, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I’ve corrected the name and its transliteration, and included a source for the former. -- Babel fish ( talk) 19:29, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I am looking for people, who can tell my a bout the BUnd in Germany and today in the world -- Steve2 11:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)11:16, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Thats the 2nd definition, verbatim, on the Merriam Webster online dictionary.
Also, a Nazi is called a good little bundist in the movie Stalag 17.
Sefton: "He's a Nazi, Price is. For all I know his name is Preissinger or Preishoffer. Oh, sure, he lived in Cleveland. But when the war broke out, he came back to the Fatherland like a good little Bundist. He spoke our lingo, so they sent him to spy school and fixed him up with phony dog tags."
No I mean the General Jewish Labor Union in Germany, this Bund was also in Germany active under the jews and i want some informations
"The massacre of Polish Jewry during the Holocaust destroyed both its base and, in the eyes of many surviving Polish Jews, its ideological validity."
Somehow I get the impression that a number of Wikipedians are keen to diss on everything progressive and anti-Zionist in the larger Jewish community - even if it's from sixty years ago!
I think that is very important to talk about the bundism in the spanish civil war, because they some the jew communist an socialists, were in Spain defending the Second Republic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.152.60.87 ( talk) 09:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC).
Jossi has proposed that Jewish Bolshevism be merged into this article. On first glance this seems to be a very unusual proposal. This article is about "a Jewish political party in several European countries operating predominantly between the 1890s and the 1930s" and the other article is about "an antisemitic political epithet; it is the antisemitic conspiracy theory which blames the Jews for Bolshevism and everything else." Certainly there are historical links between conspiracies and political/labor unions, and these links should be noted, but I fail to see a stronger connection.
I am unfamiliar with either the history or politics of the phrase " Jewish Bolshevism", but perhaps if this is an attempt to remove the article from Wikipedia the {{ AfD}} tag would be more appropriate? -- Bookandcoffee 20:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Interesting material, at [1]. -- Soman ( talk) 13:46, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone verify whether Image:Ac.manif1917.jpg really is a photo of a Bund rally? http://www.friends-partners.org/partners/Beyond-The-Pale/eng_captions/41-2.html says the demonstrators belong to the Jewish Socialist Workers Party. -- Soman ( talk) 19:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The organization is pretty universally known as the Bund - it seems to me that the word "Bund" ought to be in the article title. john k ( talk) 06:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello all,
"The Bund on Wikipedia" Project is a project that was established in order to create and edit pages about the General Jewish Labour Union, or Bund, on Wikipedia. The project's main goal is to create a network of "editors" who will continue to create and edit Wikipedia pages about the Bund. Please join the Task Force. For more info, please visit http://bundwiki.weebly.com/. Thanks. -- Eliscoming1234 ( talk) 03:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Just a note, where possible, priority should be for references/citations available in English. Thanks.-- Goldsztajn ( talk) 15:29, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
The article needs a better structure, would propose something like this:
1. Emergence
2. Growth and inter-war years
3. WW2 and destruction
4. Immediate post-war
5. Legacy
At present the ideological differences between the Bund, the Bolsheviks and Zionists are not very explicit in the article. The role of the Bund as a Jewish defence organisation should be larger, IMO, eg its support grew especially in Poland in the late 1930s as it was seen to be the most effective Jewish organisation struggling against antisemitism.-- Goldsztajn ( talk) 15:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
I just changed the Yiddish spelling of Bund from בונד to בּונד, however, I then noticed that the project task force page has a request for use of YIVO standardisation. It seems "בּ" for "b" is not part of the YIVO standard. I think though given that the Bund itself used בּונד (as can be seen in the photo in the lede, or in this photo) using בּ is more appropriate in this case. -- Goldsztajn ( talk) 12:17, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
The current title "General Jewish Labour Bund" is an odd mixture and has only 2 Google book hits, and 38 when "Labor" is used. "General Jewish Labor Union" has over 200 Google book hits, though. Also, the proper Algemeyner Yidisher Arbeter Bund has around 100 hits. -- Matthead Discuß 17:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
I started a thread at Wikipedia_talk:Jewish_Labour_Bund_Task_Force#Trifurcation_of_main_article.3F. -- Soman ( talk) 16:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
In the first paragraph of this article, it says that the General Jewish Labour Bund is known as:
It needs to also say that it is known as:
(Needs to specify when it is called the Jewish Labour Bund (with a "u") and Jewish Labor Bund (without a "u").) (I think it has also been called:)
I brought this up so someone can organize the titles in a better format, with the consent of everyone else. -- Eliscoming1234 ( talk) 22:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
There is a strange sentence in, the article in the Ukrainian wiki, "Під час Першої світової війни Бунд займав соціал-шовіністичні позиції.", i.e. (according to the Google translator) "During World War Bund held social chauvinist position." ! The Russian wiki article includes interesting data (numbers of Bund's members: 34,000 during the 1905-1907 Revolution; 2,000 in October 1910; 34,000 after the February Revolution), but without sources (there are general references at the end of the article, but no inline refs). It would be interesting to somewhat coordinate the various versions of the main Bund article to modify POV versions such as the Ukrainian one and to ask the Russian contributors to add refs so that their info could be recycled on the other wikis.-- Pylambert ( talk) 11:24, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
I propose that General Jewish Labour Bund in Belarus be merged into General Jewish Labour Bund in Lithuania, Poland and Russia. See, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/General Jewish Labour Bund in Belarus. The are no sources that indicate the existence of a distinct organization for the Bund in present-day Belarus. Many of the cities that today are part of Belarus were epicentres of activism of the Russian Bund. The Gomel and Minsk conferences were conferences of the Russian Bund. The part on BNR participation is unsourced for years now, I could not find references online. -- Soman ( talk) 09:18, 15 May 2014 (UTC) ping Czalex ( talk · contribs), Piotrus ( talk · contribs), Biruitorul ( talk · contribs), Pylambert ( talk · contribs), IZAK ( talk · contribs), הסרפד ( talk · contribs) -- Soman ( talk) 09:26, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
@ Soman - Just make the merge happen. The official name of the organization remains the official name of the organization; the fact is that it also conducted activities in Belorussia (and Ukraine), which can easily be described within the history of the organization. I'm gonna pull down the 1-year old Merge Discussion template... Carrite ( talk) 19:21, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Since when Ekaterinoburg and Bobruisk were part of Ukraine??? Please, check section 1917. Also, why Ekaterinoburg is redirected to Yekaterinburg? Could it be a misnomer for Yekaterinoslav?? Aleksandr Grigoryev ( talk) 16:32, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved as requested. I have created a new disambiguation page at General Jewish Labour Bund (disambiguation) and will add a hatnote to the page here that makes it clear that this article is about the "Lithuania, Poland and Russia" version. Dekimasu よ! 21:38, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
General Jewish Labour Bund in Lithuania, Poland and Russia →
General Jewish Labour Bund – This is the original and primary incarnation of the Bund, and the miscellany of geographical disambiguators just adds confusion as to whether this is the main one or not. This would also match more closely how the article is titled in other Wikipedia language editions.
Pharos (
talk) 16:04, 27 July 2018 (UTC)--Relisting.
Dekimasu
よ!
21:05, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I redirected General Jewish Labour Bund in Belarus here, partially as we have no evidence that a specific Belarusian chapter of the Bund or a separate Belorussian Bund party ever existed, partially as all the material of that article is now covered elsewhere. That article essentially contained 4 disparate pieces of information;
-- Soman ( talk) 19:19, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
References
Is there any good reference on how the party was organized internally (preferably in English)? Especially with some numbers of how the membership was distributed geographically? I haven't come across any so far, but encountering a number of mentions of different regional units;
In the article we have at the moment:
Two accounts on the internal organization of the Bund around 1903, somewhat contradictory:
Looking at the later stages of Bund, 1917-1921, this reference makes mention of various committees;
Seems the formal name of Bund organizations at city-level, at least in cities were the Bund had a certain size was [Foo] Committee of Bund Organizations;
And furthermore;
-- Soman ( talk) 16:04, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Did the Bund in interwar Lithuania establish itself as a separate party, and if so, when and how? Noted that;
-- Soman ( talk) 19:22, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
References
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I managed to extract the following from snippet view of p. 216 of Di Geshikhṭe fun Bund, Volume 3 Yiddish: רעכט זיינען געווען : ס . סעמקאווסקי (פון ו . ס . ד . א . פ . ) , א . אייזענשטאט ( צ . ק . פון בונד ) , א . בראון ( סערגיי - קאַנדיי דאָט צום צ . ק . פון בונד ) , דר . יצחק תאומים און א . סוועטיצקי ( פון מינסקער געגנט ־ קאָמיטעט ) , ראָזע לעוויט ( פון מאָסקווער געגנט ־ קאָמיטעט ) , אברהם לייב עטקין ( פון אוקראינער הויפט - קאָמיטעט ) , פראַנקפורט ( פון ווילנער געגנט ־ קאָמיטעט ) , זשעניע הורוויטש , ג - but so far haven't been able to get any useful detail from p. 217.
-- Soman ( talk) 17:10, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
References
I'd like to go ahead with a merger of the Communist Bund (Russia) article into this article. Most sources don't see the 1920 Kombund as a separate party from the main Bund, and I cannot find any clear indications that the Kombund would have presented itself as anything else than the Bund during this period. Notably it seems at Der Veker (Minsk), the main organ at the time, was published as the "tsentral organ fun „bund“ 'in ratn-rusland" (Central organ of the 'Bund' in Soviet Russia). -- Soman ( talk) 11:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
I started an AfD, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/General Jewish Labour Bund in Lithuania, since there doesn't appear to be any reference indicating that there was a separate Bund party in Lithuania during the period 1917-1921. But I did find a mention in passing here [1], about Bundist presence in Kovno ghetto in the 1930s. Not sure however, if this would be still the Russian Bund (S.D.), perhaps the Polish Bund, a separate party or just a more informal tendency? Notably, the Bundist periodical Foroys issue XVIII (October 1957), has articles of potential interest - "Der Bund in Irushelayem De Litte" and "Der Bund in Kovner Litte". If anyone knows if possible to get hold of that issue online would be great. -- Soman ( talk) 14:37, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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Is the Bundism page necessary, and can it be merged into this article? I understand this page discusses the Jewish Labour Bund as a whole, while "Bundism" discusses the ideology behind this group and its later iterations, but is that page necessary?
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Re "destroyed both its base and, according to (most/some), its ideological validity" I don't want to get into an edit war, so let me explain myself. Jayjg, could you also explain why you feel so strongly about "most"? I'm not disputing that the Bund lost most of its support after the war, I'm disputing that most people think that it lots its ideological validity. They're different things, and I Think that the word "most" here is POV. (Incidentially, there were still Bundist haggadot being published in the US after the war, suggesting enough supporters still around to sustain book publishing.) Serious historians debate the cause the rise of Zionism among Holocaust survivors, but to suggest (as I think the current wording of the article does) that "most" people were liberated from concentration camps and said "oops, I guess the Bund didn't help, I guess I'll go to Israel" is historically inaccurate. -- Remes 15:32, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The first paragraph currently starts with "The General Jewish Labour Union of Lithuania, Poland and Russia, in Yiddish the Algemeyner Yidisher Arbeter Bund in Lite, Poyln un Rusland". However the actual Yiddish name that's given in parentheses appears to be "Algemeyner Yidisher Arbitersbund ayn Rusland, Lite, und Poyln." Can someone who (unlike me) actually speaks the language or is familiar with the subject fix this or clarify the discrepancy? Zyqqh 11:45, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
There was a long discussion about this when I first wrote this article, in which several editors highly competent in Yiddish got involved. The conclusions were (a) that Yiddish is an unstable language with several regional variants and also no fixed transliteration into the Roman alphabet and (b) that there is no one historically "correct" rendering of the name. The current version is the one they seemed to agree was least objectionable. User:Danny, if he's still around, would be able to tell you more. Adam 22:16, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I’ve corrected the name and its transliteration, and included a source for the former. -- Babel fish ( talk) 19:29, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I am looking for people, who can tell my a bout the BUnd in Germany and today in the world -- Steve2 11:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)11:16, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Thats the 2nd definition, verbatim, on the Merriam Webster online dictionary.
Also, a Nazi is called a good little bundist in the movie Stalag 17.
Sefton: "He's a Nazi, Price is. For all I know his name is Preissinger or Preishoffer. Oh, sure, he lived in Cleveland. But when the war broke out, he came back to the Fatherland like a good little Bundist. He spoke our lingo, so they sent him to spy school and fixed him up with phony dog tags."
No I mean the General Jewish Labor Union in Germany, this Bund was also in Germany active under the jews and i want some informations
"The massacre of Polish Jewry during the Holocaust destroyed both its base and, in the eyes of many surviving Polish Jews, its ideological validity."
Somehow I get the impression that a number of Wikipedians are keen to diss on everything progressive and anti-Zionist in the larger Jewish community - even if it's from sixty years ago!
I think that is very important to talk about the bundism in the spanish civil war, because they some the jew communist an socialists, were in Spain defending the Second Republic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.152.60.87 ( talk) 09:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC).
Jossi has proposed that Jewish Bolshevism be merged into this article. On first glance this seems to be a very unusual proposal. This article is about "a Jewish political party in several European countries operating predominantly between the 1890s and the 1930s" and the other article is about "an antisemitic political epithet; it is the antisemitic conspiracy theory which blames the Jews for Bolshevism and everything else." Certainly there are historical links between conspiracies and political/labor unions, and these links should be noted, but I fail to see a stronger connection.
I am unfamiliar with either the history or politics of the phrase " Jewish Bolshevism", but perhaps if this is an attempt to remove the article from Wikipedia the {{ AfD}} tag would be more appropriate? -- Bookandcoffee 20:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Interesting material, at [1]. -- Soman ( talk) 13:46, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone verify whether Image:Ac.manif1917.jpg really is a photo of a Bund rally? http://www.friends-partners.org/partners/Beyond-The-Pale/eng_captions/41-2.html says the demonstrators belong to the Jewish Socialist Workers Party. -- Soman ( talk) 19:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The organization is pretty universally known as the Bund - it seems to me that the word "Bund" ought to be in the article title. john k ( talk) 06:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello all,
"The Bund on Wikipedia" Project is a project that was established in order to create and edit pages about the General Jewish Labour Union, or Bund, on Wikipedia. The project's main goal is to create a network of "editors" who will continue to create and edit Wikipedia pages about the Bund. Please join the Task Force. For more info, please visit http://bundwiki.weebly.com/. Thanks. -- Eliscoming1234 ( talk) 03:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Just a note, where possible, priority should be for references/citations available in English. Thanks.-- Goldsztajn ( talk) 15:29, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
The article needs a better structure, would propose something like this:
1. Emergence
2. Growth and inter-war years
3. WW2 and destruction
4. Immediate post-war
5. Legacy
At present the ideological differences between the Bund, the Bolsheviks and Zionists are not very explicit in the article. The role of the Bund as a Jewish defence organisation should be larger, IMO, eg its support grew especially in Poland in the late 1930s as it was seen to be the most effective Jewish organisation struggling against antisemitism.-- Goldsztajn ( talk) 15:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
I just changed the Yiddish spelling of Bund from בונד to בּונד, however, I then noticed that the project task force page has a request for use of YIVO standardisation. It seems "בּ" for "b" is not part of the YIVO standard. I think though given that the Bund itself used בּונד (as can be seen in the photo in the lede, or in this photo) using בּ is more appropriate in this case. -- Goldsztajn ( talk) 12:17, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
The current title "General Jewish Labour Bund" is an odd mixture and has only 2 Google book hits, and 38 when "Labor" is used. "General Jewish Labor Union" has over 200 Google book hits, though. Also, the proper Algemeyner Yidisher Arbeter Bund has around 100 hits. -- Matthead Discuß 17:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
I started a thread at Wikipedia_talk:Jewish_Labour_Bund_Task_Force#Trifurcation_of_main_article.3F. -- Soman ( talk) 16:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
In the first paragraph of this article, it says that the General Jewish Labour Bund is known as:
It needs to also say that it is known as:
(Needs to specify when it is called the Jewish Labour Bund (with a "u") and Jewish Labor Bund (without a "u").) (I think it has also been called:)
I brought this up so someone can organize the titles in a better format, with the consent of everyone else. -- Eliscoming1234 ( talk) 22:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
There is a strange sentence in, the article in the Ukrainian wiki, "Під час Першої світової війни Бунд займав соціал-шовіністичні позиції.", i.e. (according to the Google translator) "During World War Bund held social chauvinist position." ! The Russian wiki article includes interesting data (numbers of Bund's members: 34,000 during the 1905-1907 Revolution; 2,000 in October 1910; 34,000 after the February Revolution), but without sources (there are general references at the end of the article, but no inline refs). It would be interesting to somewhat coordinate the various versions of the main Bund article to modify POV versions such as the Ukrainian one and to ask the Russian contributors to add refs so that their info could be recycled on the other wikis.-- Pylambert ( talk) 11:24, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
I propose that General Jewish Labour Bund in Belarus be merged into General Jewish Labour Bund in Lithuania, Poland and Russia. See, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/General Jewish Labour Bund in Belarus. The are no sources that indicate the existence of a distinct organization for the Bund in present-day Belarus. Many of the cities that today are part of Belarus were epicentres of activism of the Russian Bund. The Gomel and Minsk conferences were conferences of the Russian Bund. The part on BNR participation is unsourced for years now, I could not find references online. -- Soman ( talk) 09:18, 15 May 2014 (UTC) ping Czalex ( talk · contribs), Piotrus ( talk · contribs), Biruitorul ( talk · contribs), Pylambert ( talk · contribs), IZAK ( talk · contribs), הסרפד ( talk · contribs) -- Soman ( talk) 09:26, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
@ Soman - Just make the merge happen. The official name of the organization remains the official name of the organization; the fact is that it also conducted activities in Belorussia (and Ukraine), which can easily be described within the history of the organization. I'm gonna pull down the 1-year old Merge Discussion template... Carrite ( talk) 19:21, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Since when Ekaterinoburg and Bobruisk were part of Ukraine??? Please, check section 1917. Also, why Ekaterinoburg is redirected to Yekaterinburg? Could it be a misnomer for Yekaterinoslav?? Aleksandr Grigoryev ( talk) 16:32, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved as requested. I have created a new disambiguation page at General Jewish Labour Bund (disambiguation) and will add a hatnote to the page here that makes it clear that this article is about the "Lithuania, Poland and Russia" version. Dekimasu よ! 21:38, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
General Jewish Labour Bund in Lithuania, Poland and Russia →
General Jewish Labour Bund – This is the original and primary incarnation of the Bund, and the miscellany of geographical disambiguators just adds confusion as to whether this is the main one or not. This would also match more closely how the article is titled in other Wikipedia language editions.
Pharos (
talk) 16:04, 27 July 2018 (UTC)--Relisting.
Dekimasu
よ!
21:05, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I redirected General Jewish Labour Bund in Belarus here, partially as we have no evidence that a specific Belarusian chapter of the Bund or a separate Belorussian Bund party ever existed, partially as all the material of that article is now covered elsewhere. That article essentially contained 4 disparate pieces of information;
-- Soman ( talk) 19:19, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
References
Is there any good reference on how the party was organized internally (preferably in English)? Especially with some numbers of how the membership was distributed geographically? I haven't come across any so far, but encountering a number of mentions of different regional units;
In the article we have at the moment:
Two accounts on the internal organization of the Bund around 1903, somewhat contradictory:
Looking at the later stages of Bund, 1917-1921, this reference makes mention of various committees;
Seems the formal name of Bund organizations at city-level, at least in cities were the Bund had a certain size was [Foo] Committee of Bund Organizations;
And furthermore;
-- Soman ( talk) 16:04, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Did the Bund in interwar Lithuania establish itself as a separate party, and if so, when and how? Noted that;
-- Soman ( talk) 19:22, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
References
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I managed to extract the following from snippet view of p. 216 of Di Geshikhṭe fun Bund, Volume 3 Yiddish: רעכט זיינען געווען : ס . סעמקאווסקי (פון ו . ס . ד . א . פ . ) , א . אייזענשטאט ( צ . ק . פון בונד ) , א . בראון ( סערגיי - קאַנדיי דאָט צום צ . ק . פון בונד ) , דר . יצחק תאומים און א . סוועטיצקי ( פון מינסקער געגנט ־ קאָמיטעט ) , ראָזע לעוויט ( פון מאָסקווער געגנט ־ קאָמיטעט ) , אברהם לייב עטקין ( פון אוקראינער הויפט - קאָמיטעט ) , פראַנקפורט ( פון ווילנער געגנט ־ קאָמיטעט ) , זשעניע הורוויטש , ג - but so far haven't been able to get any useful detail from p. 217.
-- Soman ( talk) 17:10, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
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I'd like to go ahead with a merger of the Communist Bund (Russia) article into this article. Most sources don't see the 1920 Kombund as a separate party from the main Bund, and I cannot find any clear indications that the Kombund would have presented itself as anything else than the Bund during this period. Notably it seems at Der Veker (Minsk), the main organ at the time, was published as the "tsentral organ fun „bund“ 'in ratn-rusland" (Central organ of the 'Bund' in Soviet Russia). -- Soman ( talk) 11:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
I started an AfD, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/General Jewish Labour Bund in Lithuania, since there doesn't appear to be any reference indicating that there was a separate Bund party in Lithuania during the period 1917-1921. But I did find a mention in passing here [1], about Bundist presence in Kovno ghetto in the 1930s. Not sure however, if this would be still the Russian Bund (S.D.), perhaps the Polish Bund, a separate party or just a more informal tendency? Notably, the Bundist periodical Foroys issue XVIII (October 1957), has articles of potential interest - "Der Bund in Irushelayem De Litte" and "Der Bund in Kovner Litte". If anyone knows if possible to get hold of that issue online would be great. -- Soman ( talk) 14:37, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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Is the Bundism page necessary, and can it be merged into this article? I understand this page discusses the Jewish Labour Bund as a whole, while "Bundism" discusses the ideology behind this group and its later iterations, but is that page necessary?