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Ok, so as one might expect, this article is pretty sketchy. Not too surpising considering we're essentially dealing with a bunch of internet lore. I reworded the "cult status" section with proper grammar and a less informal tone. I also intially added a bunch of citation needed requests. This, however was before I found a link to at least one forum discussing the film at the bottom of the page. More would be nice, but this may be all we can ask for. Perhaps we should even consider removing some of the more questionable claims in the article. Specifically I've left the citation reqest for this initial IMDB reivew. Though it has now been removed, perhaps we could find it somewhere. Maybe it doesn't even bear mentioning. Who is this guy with the defunct anime site anyway? They guy who originally wrote the blurb? I think I've spent as much time as I care to on this semi-rediculous article. Please manually add more citation requests rather than reverting if you see them as necessary, there are other subtle rewordings that I think should be kept. Kevmitch 06:05, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Great. So I know I said I was done with this page, but lo-and-behold an anonymous user has dug up the legendary review! Now we're still at the point of whether its wiki worthy enough to mention. If it is decided to leave it in, is it adequate to link to a google cache? What happened to the original post on this forum? How long will a google cache last after a page has dissapeared?
To what degree is the account of the rise of the film to cult status generally accepted among the internet community? I might suspect that an alternative telling would have the film rise to noteriety through GNAA. Or perhaps this IMDB legend (if it can be called that) did in fact preceed. We need to establish some sort of verifiable timeline. Kevmitch 07:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
So, is there any truth to the rumor that this film has any ties to the GNAA (Gay Nigger Association of America) Centrisian ( talk) 09:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone explain why Reference #2 (referring to the sentence "It is also famous for being the namesake of the Gay Nigger Association of America troll group") is the non-hotlinked "^ Dean, Jodi (2010). Blog Theory: Feedback and Capture in the Circuits of Drive. Cambridge, UK: Polity Press. p. 6". What, exactly, has this to do with the fact that the movie is the namesake of the GNAA?
Do we really need the torrent links? Could this get the wiki in legal troubles? I'm guessing no since it's really got no organizations behind it and therefore no big sticks, but still... I suppose a link to BitTorrent wouldn't hurt. --~~-- TIB (talk) 05:10, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)
I'm curious as to why the dreaded racial epithet was attached to "gay" in the name of the film. Does anybody have any idea? [[User:DO'Neil| DO' И eil]] 03:19, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
I agree with the previous post. However, as a gay African-American, who has to deal constantly with racial discrimination in the gay community, creating the term Gayniggers, I believe, is an attempt to acknowlege the special subset of discrimation that we as people of African descent face specifically in the gay community. I question if it needs to be one word or not. I did hear that some the men who produced this were African-Dutch in origin, and in the Dutch language the term "Gaynigger" (Schwulnegger-in german- sorry i speak german but Dutch is similar) is possible Dkceaser 02:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Dkceaser
Wtf this is a movie?
Dino De Laurentus was most likely a joke pseudonym to sound like the famous producer Dino De Laurentiis. IMDB has the real credits.
It should probably be made more clear that the scenes (or the so-called protagonist it mentions) from that review are not actually in the movie. I read through this wikipedia page then read teh IMDB review and was very dissapointed to not be able to hear that song when I watched the movie (:sarcasm:). Oh, and that movie is a waste of time. Even if there are one or two sources, I'm not sure I'd count it as notable. 75.177.176.6
I copied and pasted it years ago I thought it was so funny... It should be part of the main page but I dont know how to get it there:
Date: 3 April 2003 Summary: juvenile and purile but well made
A really strange peice of cinema. This short film runs only about 20mins and is chock full of homophobic humor and juvenile jokes, but nevertheless its quite well made and directed. Seek it out just so you can say you've seen it.
Summary: The gay nigger movie to end all gay nigger movies . . .
When the first gay nigger walks onto the screen, you know you're in for a real treat. It is almost to impossible articulate, in words, the sheer, visionary brilliance of this film.
The music is amazing as well. "Gay Niggers Eat Pigs and Fly on Penises Made of Ham and Brown Ham, Because They're Gay Niggers" is an oscar-worthy song. This song plays during the scene when Gay Nigger Jim rapes a toilet and explodes, and unless you're souless, it will make you cry.
The stuff of legends . . . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.197.195 ( talk) 03:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
You need to finish the peer review - follow the link and directions in the box at the top of this page. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I see we can't add links to the GNAA site, even as references. I think the group's claim to have released a remastered copy of the film on Bittorrent is relevant. Anyone know if an exception could be made for that one link? I have it if anyone is able to do that, but obviously can't post it here. — FIRE! in a crowded theatre... 10:44, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that running the original VHS capture through some de-noising and contrast filters counts as 'remastering'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.239.56.113 ( talk) 05:23, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia's policy on reliable sources. A "trolling organization" writing something on its website is about as far from a reliable source as it's possible to get. -- SCZenz ( talk) 15:10, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
The URL for this is a lowercase F, but in the introductory statement it is uppercase. To me, it looks like "From" capitalized in the title for the movie, but IMDB has it lowercase. I would like to reach consensus on what this should be, to which should we look to first for authority? Perhaps the producer site? DB ( talk) 21:02, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
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The character "Mr. Schwul"'s surname should be glossed/wikilinked to Schwul. It is German (no idea about Swedish) for "gay".
64.160.39.217 ( talk) 08:26, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
The first line for this article calls it a blaxploitation film. This was an uncited edit made in this edit. This doesn't seem to fit the bill of what makes a blaxploitation film a blaxploitation film. It is not American, it was not made in the 70s, and no reliable sources call it a blaxploitation film. Searching for the film title along with 'blaxploitation' yields few results, mostly individuals calling it a satire of the genre. The page for blaxploitation calls the film a 'blaxploitation-like', which while also uncited makes more sense given the year and country of release. But it is also placed in the List_of_blaxploitation_films with no citation. A consensus should be reached. Yeah, that's fine. ( talk) 12:41, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Further, they send all the women of Earth to Uranus at the expense of only 3 negroes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.11.93.39 ( talk) 17:37, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
According to IMDB and Instagram, there is no 'r' in the actor's name - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0197496/ and https://www.instagram.com/gbatokai/?hl=en His proper name is 'Gbatokai Dakinah'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phemar ( talk • contribs) 09:10, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Change "Dutch B movie" to "[Danish] B movie" or put a [sic] there or something. Unsurprisingly it seems some American confused Danish people with Dutch people again on account of it starting with the same letter and it not being their own country. 2A02:A420:6D:25BC:858C:942C:8846:F613 ( talk) 16:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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Please change the invalid reference link url: http://www.elitisti.net/database.php?id=4&page=1 to https://www.elitisti.fi/artikkeli/2003/07/master-fatman-ja-homoneekerit-ulkoavaruudesta Jetro Suni ( talk) 18:14, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please replace “parody” with “satire”. Parody leads to thinking about comedy and jokes, while satire is social criticism, which this film is. Xiks ( talk) 09:26, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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Ok, so as one might expect, this article is pretty sketchy. Not too surpising considering we're essentially dealing with a bunch of internet lore. I reworded the "cult status" section with proper grammar and a less informal tone. I also intially added a bunch of citation needed requests. This, however was before I found a link to at least one forum discussing the film at the bottom of the page. More would be nice, but this may be all we can ask for. Perhaps we should even consider removing some of the more questionable claims in the article. Specifically I've left the citation reqest for this initial IMDB reivew. Though it has now been removed, perhaps we could find it somewhere. Maybe it doesn't even bear mentioning. Who is this guy with the defunct anime site anyway? They guy who originally wrote the blurb? I think I've spent as much time as I care to on this semi-rediculous article. Please manually add more citation requests rather than reverting if you see them as necessary, there are other subtle rewordings that I think should be kept. Kevmitch 06:05, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Great. So I know I said I was done with this page, but lo-and-behold an anonymous user has dug up the legendary review! Now we're still at the point of whether its wiki worthy enough to mention. If it is decided to leave it in, is it adequate to link to a google cache? What happened to the original post on this forum? How long will a google cache last after a page has dissapeared?
To what degree is the account of the rise of the film to cult status generally accepted among the internet community? I might suspect that an alternative telling would have the film rise to noteriety through GNAA. Or perhaps this IMDB legend (if it can be called that) did in fact preceed. We need to establish some sort of verifiable timeline. Kevmitch 07:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
So, is there any truth to the rumor that this film has any ties to the GNAA (Gay Nigger Association of America) Centrisian ( talk) 09:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone explain why Reference #2 (referring to the sentence "It is also famous for being the namesake of the Gay Nigger Association of America troll group") is the non-hotlinked "^ Dean, Jodi (2010). Blog Theory: Feedback and Capture in the Circuits of Drive. Cambridge, UK: Polity Press. p. 6". What, exactly, has this to do with the fact that the movie is the namesake of the GNAA?
Do we really need the torrent links? Could this get the wiki in legal troubles? I'm guessing no since it's really got no organizations behind it and therefore no big sticks, but still... I suppose a link to BitTorrent wouldn't hurt. --~~-- TIB (talk) 05:10, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)
I'm curious as to why the dreaded racial epithet was attached to "gay" in the name of the film. Does anybody have any idea? [[User:DO'Neil| DO' И eil]] 03:19, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
I agree with the previous post. However, as a gay African-American, who has to deal constantly with racial discrimination in the gay community, creating the term Gayniggers, I believe, is an attempt to acknowlege the special subset of discrimation that we as people of African descent face specifically in the gay community. I question if it needs to be one word or not. I did hear that some the men who produced this were African-Dutch in origin, and in the Dutch language the term "Gaynigger" (Schwulnegger-in german- sorry i speak german but Dutch is similar) is possible Dkceaser 02:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Dkceaser
Wtf this is a movie?
Dino De Laurentus was most likely a joke pseudonym to sound like the famous producer Dino De Laurentiis. IMDB has the real credits.
It should probably be made more clear that the scenes (or the so-called protagonist it mentions) from that review are not actually in the movie. I read through this wikipedia page then read teh IMDB review and was very dissapointed to not be able to hear that song when I watched the movie (:sarcasm:). Oh, and that movie is a waste of time. Even if there are one or two sources, I'm not sure I'd count it as notable. 75.177.176.6
I copied and pasted it years ago I thought it was so funny... It should be part of the main page but I dont know how to get it there:
Date: 3 April 2003 Summary: juvenile and purile but well made
A really strange peice of cinema. This short film runs only about 20mins and is chock full of homophobic humor and juvenile jokes, but nevertheless its quite well made and directed. Seek it out just so you can say you've seen it.
Summary: The gay nigger movie to end all gay nigger movies . . .
When the first gay nigger walks onto the screen, you know you're in for a real treat. It is almost to impossible articulate, in words, the sheer, visionary brilliance of this film.
The music is amazing as well. "Gay Niggers Eat Pigs and Fly on Penises Made of Ham and Brown Ham, Because They're Gay Niggers" is an oscar-worthy song. This song plays during the scene when Gay Nigger Jim rapes a toilet and explodes, and unless you're souless, it will make you cry.
The stuff of legends . . . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.197.195 ( talk) 03:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
You need to finish the peer review - follow the link and directions in the box at the top of this page. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I see we can't add links to the GNAA site, even as references. I think the group's claim to have released a remastered copy of the film on Bittorrent is relevant. Anyone know if an exception could be made for that one link? I have it if anyone is able to do that, but obviously can't post it here. — FIRE! in a crowded theatre... 10:44, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that running the original VHS capture through some de-noising and contrast filters counts as 'remastering'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.239.56.113 ( talk) 05:23, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia's policy on reliable sources. A "trolling organization" writing something on its website is about as far from a reliable source as it's possible to get. -- SCZenz ( talk) 15:10, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
The URL for this is a lowercase F, but in the introductory statement it is uppercase. To me, it looks like "From" capitalized in the title for the movie, but IMDB has it lowercase. I would like to reach consensus on what this should be, to which should we look to first for authority? Perhaps the producer site? DB ( talk) 21:02, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
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The character "Mr. Schwul"'s surname should be glossed/wikilinked to Schwul. It is German (no idea about Swedish) for "gay".
64.160.39.217 ( talk) 08:26, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
The first line for this article calls it a blaxploitation film. This was an uncited edit made in this edit. This doesn't seem to fit the bill of what makes a blaxploitation film a blaxploitation film. It is not American, it was not made in the 70s, and no reliable sources call it a blaxploitation film. Searching for the film title along with 'blaxploitation' yields few results, mostly individuals calling it a satire of the genre. The page for blaxploitation calls the film a 'blaxploitation-like', which while also uncited makes more sense given the year and country of release. But it is also placed in the List_of_blaxploitation_films with no citation. A consensus should be reached. Yeah, that's fine. ( talk) 12:41, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Further, they send all the women of Earth to Uranus at the expense of only 3 negroes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.11.93.39 ( talk) 17:37, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
According to IMDB and Instagram, there is no 'r' in the actor's name - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0197496/ and https://www.instagram.com/gbatokai/?hl=en His proper name is 'Gbatokai Dakinah'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phemar ( talk • contribs) 09:10, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Change "Dutch B movie" to "[Danish] B movie" or put a [sic] there or something. Unsurprisingly it seems some American confused Danish people with Dutch people again on account of it starting with the same letter and it not being their own country. 2A02:A420:6D:25BC:858C:942C:8846:F613 ( talk) 16:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect 1992 Outer Space and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 4 § 1992 Outer Space until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she|they|xe) 05:51, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
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Please change the invalid reference link url: http://www.elitisti.net/database.php?id=4&page=1 to https://www.elitisti.fi/artikkeli/2003/07/master-fatman-ja-homoneekerit-ulkoavaruudesta Jetro Suni ( talk) 18:14, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please replace “parody” with “satire”. Parody leads to thinking about comedy and jokes, while satire is social criticism, which this film is. Xiks ( talk) 09:26, 14 October 2023 (UTC)