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removed this text: This marked the first occasion in many centuries where a major European state moved from monarchical to republican mode, and presaged a new era of republican government(s) in Europe.
and replaced it thus: This presaged a new era of republican government(s) in Europe.
The term "many centuries" is ambiguous first of all. Second of all, the Dutch Republic was established in the early 17th century, less than two centuries before 1795, certainly not "many centuries". I don't know if there were any other European republics established between the establishment of the Dutch Republic and establishment of the First French Republic, so I just removed the questionable line entirely.
-- Henrybaker 22:09, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
The infobox has a title "Various" which is linked to an irrelevant article. The link is made by the template script, not the parameter to it. Is there a way to unlink it? phma 05:05, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
there's no french version of this article... Paris By Night 02:32, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I think First French Republic sounds a little more proper than "French First Republic" and anyway, I believe it is a more precise translation of Première République française. In addition, it is a different naming convention than we use for First French Empire. That makes no sense. We should stick to one convention; it doesn't seem very encyclopedic to keep things as they are. Funnyhat 04:44, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
The French article about the flag of France ( fr:Drapeau de la France) says explicitely that the de facto national flag of the Kingdom of France was a simple white flag - the lily banner was only used in presence of members of the royal family except the King: When he was present, the white flag had been hoised. To cut a long story short: Please do not insert the lily banner (Pavillon royale de France.svg) anymore, it's the wrong flag here. Louis88 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.169.30.46 ( talk) 20:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I believe the red-white-blue tricolor was only used until about 1794, when it was switched to the current blue-white-red one. 141.211.222.216 ( talk) 21:42, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I have noticed that this article is a stub, and I would like to clean it up and add to it. I have some good published sources to draw on. If anyone has any suggestions for changes I could incorporate besides those listed above, keep me posted. Tkbd2009 ( talk) 16:29, 12 February 2009(UTC)
Would someone with authority on the subject please write something about the "suspension of all ordinary legality 10 October 1793" mentioned in the Constitution of France article? Thank you SaaHc2B ( talk) 23:34, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
I strongly disagree that this is B-class. It is a disguised history article, not very well sectioned nor very well referenced at that. The name implies this to be an article about state, for which the article is grossly incomplete (where is the information on leaders, organizations, politics...)? Not B class, C class at best if we are being generous, I'd say start class. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:54, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Should one not include the template History of France? I think that would be very useful. -- Hans Dunkelberg ( talk) 15:15, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
No consensus to move. Although alternative proposals have been made, none seems to have gained traction, and new comments made after those proposals disagree with any move. bd2412 T 12:20, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
– This article's topic is the first of France's republican government, not the French form of a general first republic. Article editor ( talk) 03:40, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Just landed here for the first time. I'm surprised that some have supported retaining that weird title. My preference would be "First Republic (France)", but anything would be better than "French First Republic".-- Lubiesque ( talk) 13:27, 6 June 2015 (UTC) I agree with you, the title should be "First Republic (France)." Gerard de Lafayette ( talk) 13:45, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
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"French First Republic" violates the order of adjectives in English. It should be First French Republic. See here : https://www.gingersoftware.com/content/grammar-rules/adjectives/order-of-adjectives/
2602:306:CFEA:170:7081:FD63:FD81:5C76 ( talk) 03:47, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Could the infobox be reworked? All articles on the French Constitution of 1791, French Constitution of 1793 and Constitution of the Year III state that freedom of religion is protected. So for all this time there was no state religion and this should be reflected in the infobox. I would be fine with a list of all the different religions that were of significance but they should reflect "equal footing", meaning no official status.
The article on the Cult of the Supreme Being reads: "It was officially banned by Napoleon Bonaparte on 8 April 1802 with his Law on Cults of 18 Germinal, Year X.[20]"
I would rework it myself, but wanted to ask for consensus beforehand. Icarusatthesun ( talk)
The coat of arms shown here is different from the coat of arms shown on the article about the coats of arms of the French state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.186.72.86 ( talk) 16:16, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Very amusing. Either the article is too short or the infobox should be pruned. ibicdlcod ( talk) 15:26, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
So, the English Wikipedia has articles entitled First and Second French Empire. Number, then nationality - which is proper according to the rules of adjectival order in English.
This is not a matter of empires vs. republics, as we also have articles on the First and Second Spanish Republics.
Yet we persist with this inaccurate and inconsistent "nationality, then number" rule for the French Republics. I'm going to assume that a non-native English speaker made the innocent mistake of writing "French First Republic" in the beginning ... but do not understand why we insist on perpetuating this mistake.
But then, we spent two decades displaying the wrong flag of Austria-Hungary, so I guess we're a stubborn bunch? 2600:1702:6D0:5160:D9B3:92CC:9790:303E ( talk) 20:46, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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removed this text: This marked the first occasion in many centuries where a major European state moved from monarchical to republican mode, and presaged a new era of republican government(s) in Europe.
and replaced it thus: This presaged a new era of republican government(s) in Europe.
The term "many centuries" is ambiguous first of all. Second of all, the Dutch Republic was established in the early 17th century, less than two centuries before 1795, certainly not "many centuries". I don't know if there were any other European republics established between the establishment of the Dutch Republic and establishment of the First French Republic, so I just removed the questionable line entirely.
-- Henrybaker 22:09, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
The infobox has a title "Various" which is linked to an irrelevant article. The link is made by the template script, not the parameter to it. Is there a way to unlink it? phma 05:05, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
there's no french version of this article... Paris By Night 02:32, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I think First French Republic sounds a little more proper than "French First Republic" and anyway, I believe it is a more precise translation of Première République française. In addition, it is a different naming convention than we use for First French Empire. That makes no sense. We should stick to one convention; it doesn't seem very encyclopedic to keep things as they are. Funnyhat 04:44, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
The French article about the flag of France ( fr:Drapeau de la France) says explicitely that the de facto national flag of the Kingdom of France was a simple white flag - the lily banner was only used in presence of members of the royal family except the King: When he was present, the white flag had been hoised. To cut a long story short: Please do not insert the lily banner (Pavillon royale de France.svg) anymore, it's the wrong flag here. Louis88 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.169.30.46 ( talk) 20:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I believe the red-white-blue tricolor was only used until about 1794, when it was switched to the current blue-white-red one. 141.211.222.216 ( talk) 21:42, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I have noticed that this article is a stub, and I would like to clean it up and add to it. I have some good published sources to draw on. If anyone has any suggestions for changes I could incorporate besides those listed above, keep me posted. Tkbd2009 ( talk) 16:29, 12 February 2009(UTC)
Would someone with authority on the subject please write something about the "suspension of all ordinary legality 10 October 1793" mentioned in the Constitution of France article? Thank you SaaHc2B ( talk) 23:34, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
I strongly disagree that this is B-class. It is a disguised history article, not very well sectioned nor very well referenced at that. The name implies this to be an article about state, for which the article is grossly incomplete (where is the information on leaders, organizations, politics...)? Not B class, C class at best if we are being generous, I'd say start class. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:54, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Should one not include the template History of France? I think that would be very useful. -- Hans Dunkelberg ( talk) 15:15, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
No consensus to move. Although alternative proposals have been made, none seems to have gained traction, and new comments made after those proposals disagree with any move. bd2412 T 12:20, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
– This article's topic is the first of France's republican government, not the French form of a general first republic. Article editor ( talk) 03:40, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Just landed here for the first time. I'm surprised that some have supported retaining that weird title. My preference would be "First Republic (France)", but anything would be better than "French First Republic".-- Lubiesque ( talk) 13:27, 6 June 2015 (UTC) I agree with you, the title should be "First Republic (France)." Gerard de Lafayette ( talk) 13:45, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:French Third Republic which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 05:29, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
"French First Republic" violates the order of adjectives in English. It should be First French Republic. See here : https://www.gingersoftware.com/content/grammar-rules/adjectives/order-of-adjectives/
2602:306:CFEA:170:7081:FD63:FD81:5C76 ( talk) 03:47, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Could the infobox be reworked? All articles on the French Constitution of 1791, French Constitution of 1793 and Constitution of the Year III state that freedom of religion is protected. So for all this time there was no state religion and this should be reflected in the infobox. I would be fine with a list of all the different religions that were of significance but they should reflect "equal footing", meaning no official status.
The article on the Cult of the Supreme Being reads: "It was officially banned by Napoleon Bonaparte on 8 April 1802 with his Law on Cults of 18 Germinal, Year X.[20]"
I would rework it myself, but wanted to ask for consensus beforehand. Icarusatthesun ( talk)
The coat of arms shown here is different from the coat of arms shown on the article about the coats of arms of the French state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.186.72.86 ( talk) 16:16, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Very amusing. Either the article is too short or the infobox should be pruned. ibicdlcod ( talk) 15:26, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
So, the English Wikipedia has articles entitled First and Second French Empire. Number, then nationality - which is proper according to the rules of adjectival order in English.
This is not a matter of empires vs. republics, as we also have articles on the First and Second Spanish Republics.
Yet we persist with this inaccurate and inconsistent "nationality, then number" rule for the French Republics. I'm going to assume that a non-native English speaker made the innocent mistake of writing "French First Republic" in the beginning ... but do not understand why we insist on perpetuating this mistake.
But then, we spent two decades displaying the wrong flag of Austria-Hungary, so I guess we're a stubborn bunch? 2600:1702:6D0:5160:D9B3:92CC:9790:303E ( talk) 20:46, 20 April 2024 (UTC)