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Discussion to establish an article for Broly here. I think the creation of the article would be relevant to editors of this page. Nice4What ( talk) 00:29, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
@ Xfansd: this is also a warning because you are disruptively removing ( [1], [2]) reliably sourced information from the article. The canon in every manga and anime is depending on whether is written by the original creator and in this case, by Akira Toriyama. The character is widely reported (for e.g. [3]) to be a re-working by Toriyama because it is 1) finally included in his official canon work 2) although initially designed by him, it was created by Takao Koyama whose Dragon Ball films are not considered as canon because Toriyama was not involved with the story 3) most probably the movie will be followed with manga and anime follow-up like it happened with the previous two films. Not to mention Wikipedia is edited according to RS, and not editors i.e. yours original research and personal opinion, hence edit summaries had invalid argumentation.-- 78.1.84.153 ( talk) 21:19, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
@ Kaito67:@ Itsbasicallyaidan:@ Frederick muno: please stop adding too much unnecessary details to the plot section, also, removing reliable sources. The article had a WP:PLOTSUM i.e. WP:PLOTSUMNOT warning for a reason.-- Miki Filigranski ( talk) 14:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
no u — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsbasicallyaidan ( talk • contribs) 14:39, December 19, 2018 (UTC)
@ Maestro2016:@ Marcos Paul:@ Scabab:@ KenGohan:@ Lugamo94: and other new Wikipedian editors, I advise you to read the basic editing policy and how to properly cite on Wikipedia (start from here Wikipedia:Tutorial/Editing and Help:Editing) because if you continue to ignore the citation style used in the article and hence add references without proper citation style, as well issues with citing unreliable sources (like Twitter), then sorry, you there's a fine line before getting reported to the administrators. Your editing is making a mess which other experienced editors constantly have to fix.-- Miki Filigranski ( talk) 18:05, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
See this is why you shouldn't get involved because you're uninformed.
https://www.screendaily.com/box-office/aquaman-crosses-1bn-worldwide-update/5135754.article
"$1.3m in Ecuador"
There is no "contradiction". It was estimated to have made $54.3 million. The next day, as that same article clearly says it was updated and with actuals it did $53.5 million. If you don't know what you're on about, then why are you editing the page? Scabab ( talk) 21:56, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
@ KenGohan: in this you copied the text "Dragon Ball Super: Broly, which took in $2.4 million on Friday night, beating Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse ($1.7 million) for fourth place. The animated action flick debuted to a stellar $7 million on 1,250 screens Wednesday night, hauling in $12.8 million total so far" from [10]. That's another time you violated the WP:COPYRIGHT. Stop doing that, that's a serious violation on Wikipedia.-- Miki Filigranski ( talk) 19:06, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Since the cast table creates extraneous white space to the right of it with just three columns, I suggest adding a "Description" column so each character can be described in brief. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 19:09, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Due to the vandalism or disruptive edits by Miki Filigranski, a new subject is being made to explain the grosses on the suggestion of the Admin.
On January 13th, Comscore, Deadline and Screen Daily gave an estimated worldwide figure of $54.3 million. On January 14th Screen Daily updated this gross to reflect actuals which were instead $53.5 million. This gross was later used on Box Office Mojo.
Nothing to question, nothing to debate, that is the stated gross that was given and so that information and source was used to replace the previous estimated figures for accuracy purposes. Scabab ( talk) 22:27, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
In its first Latin America weekend it grossed reportedly over $6.1 million in Mexico alone, [1] [2] while according to Deadline Hollywood, "Peru ($2.5M) and Argentina ($1.55M) gave Fox its biggest opening weekend ever, followed by Chile ($1.7M) with the industry’s 3rd biggest animation opening of all time. In Colombia it's Fox's 4th biggest opening weekend ever at $1.5M and in Ecuador, the Toei anime fantasy is Fox's top launch ever, and the 3rd best superhero bow, behind Avengers: Infinity War and Thor: Ragnarok". [3] In its 5th public weekend ending 13 January 2019, the movie grossed $20.3 million from 17 territories, becoming the weekend's third top-grossing film in international markets, behind only Bumblebee and Aquaman, which brought the film's worldwide gross to $54.3 million ahead of its United States premiere. [3] [4] [5]
and
... Thor: Ragnarok" with $1.3M. [6] [3] In its 5th public weekend ending 13 January 2019, the movie grossed $19.2 million from 17 territories, becoming the weekend's third top-grossing film in international markets, behind only Bumblebee and Aquaman, which brought the film's worldwide gross to $53.5 million ahead of its United States premiere. [7]
References
According to RS listed chronologically with a date of release in discussion "References":
13 January
14 January
16 January
According to RS listed or not currently on the article:
Both BOM and Comscore, as well other box office reporting websites, have their own established credibility, and none of them has a right on "factual" information as all of them provide "estimates". On the website of BOM itself is clearly written that the gross is an "(Estimate)". All these sources are reliable, and considering WP:WEIGHT i.e. coverage of each gross number, then $54(.3)M was more widely reported than $53.5M, which according to Wikipedian editing policy implies that one has a bit higher prominence i.e. proportional weight in RS than the other ( WP:PROPORTION, WP:BALANCE), if not almost the same if is ignored Comic Book, hence both are usable for inclusion. In other words, as there included both Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic (etc.) for an average rating of critical reviews so should be included box office estimates of both BOM and Comscore - only then is established neutrality per WP:NPOV. As a minor note regarding current section's revision, the 6th and 7th source are the same and lack citation style which violates WP:CITEVAR (something I was warning and correcting editors on the article for almost a month), while movie titles of Bumblebee and Aquaman don't follow MOS:TITLE (lack italic quotation marks).-- Miki Filigranski ( talk) 01:07, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
I am noticing this as well.
This user is making edits without any investigation in the citation link. His edits represents false and outdated information. Citations are here to justify the informations. To
Miki Filigranski, Please do not make edits without further investigation and also do not remove citations without proper explanation.
Sincerely,
Masum Reza(
talk)
18:33, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
As this article points out,the movie has made $72 million from Fox Markets.
Box Office Mojo's gross of $71.93 (which is merely the actual gross) is from upon Fox markets. The page includes other individual grosses from other distributors like Australia and UK but these grosses are not included with the figure that was reported by Fox. Scabab ( talk) 08:24, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
The plot summary states that Broly transforms into his Legendary Super Saiyan form, but I don't think this form is ever named in this movie. The previous 3 non-canon movies label this as such but this movie is considered canon. This form should be unnamed until it's officially given one. DrkBlueXG ( talk) 21:31, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Discussion to establish an article for Broly here. I think the creation of the article would be relevant to editors of this page. Nice4What ( talk) 00:29, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
@ Xfansd: this is also a warning because you are disruptively removing ( [1], [2]) reliably sourced information from the article. The canon in every manga and anime is depending on whether is written by the original creator and in this case, by Akira Toriyama. The character is widely reported (for e.g. [3]) to be a re-working by Toriyama because it is 1) finally included in his official canon work 2) although initially designed by him, it was created by Takao Koyama whose Dragon Ball films are not considered as canon because Toriyama was not involved with the story 3) most probably the movie will be followed with manga and anime follow-up like it happened with the previous two films. Not to mention Wikipedia is edited according to RS, and not editors i.e. yours original research and personal opinion, hence edit summaries had invalid argumentation.-- 78.1.84.153 ( talk) 21:19, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
@ Kaito67:@ Itsbasicallyaidan:@ Frederick muno: please stop adding too much unnecessary details to the plot section, also, removing reliable sources. The article had a WP:PLOTSUM i.e. WP:PLOTSUMNOT warning for a reason.-- Miki Filigranski ( talk) 14:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
no u — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsbasicallyaidan ( talk • contribs) 14:39, December 19, 2018 (UTC)
@ Maestro2016:@ Marcos Paul:@ Scabab:@ KenGohan:@ Lugamo94: and other new Wikipedian editors, I advise you to read the basic editing policy and how to properly cite on Wikipedia (start from here Wikipedia:Tutorial/Editing and Help:Editing) because if you continue to ignore the citation style used in the article and hence add references without proper citation style, as well issues with citing unreliable sources (like Twitter), then sorry, you there's a fine line before getting reported to the administrators. Your editing is making a mess which other experienced editors constantly have to fix.-- Miki Filigranski ( talk) 18:05, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
See this is why you shouldn't get involved because you're uninformed.
https://www.screendaily.com/box-office/aquaman-crosses-1bn-worldwide-update/5135754.article
"$1.3m in Ecuador"
There is no "contradiction". It was estimated to have made $54.3 million. The next day, as that same article clearly says it was updated and with actuals it did $53.5 million. If you don't know what you're on about, then why are you editing the page? Scabab ( talk) 21:56, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
@ KenGohan: in this you copied the text "Dragon Ball Super: Broly, which took in $2.4 million on Friday night, beating Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse ($1.7 million) for fourth place. The animated action flick debuted to a stellar $7 million on 1,250 screens Wednesday night, hauling in $12.8 million total so far" from [10]. That's another time you violated the WP:COPYRIGHT. Stop doing that, that's a serious violation on Wikipedia.-- Miki Filigranski ( talk) 19:06, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Since the cast table creates extraneous white space to the right of it with just three columns, I suggest adding a "Description" column so each character can be described in brief. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 19:09, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Due to the vandalism or disruptive edits by Miki Filigranski, a new subject is being made to explain the grosses on the suggestion of the Admin.
On January 13th, Comscore, Deadline and Screen Daily gave an estimated worldwide figure of $54.3 million. On January 14th Screen Daily updated this gross to reflect actuals which were instead $53.5 million. This gross was later used on Box Office Mojo.
Nothing to question, nothing to debate, that is the stated gross that was given and so that information and source was used to replace the previous estimated figures for accuracy purposes. Scabab ( talk) 22:27, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
In its first Latin America weekend it grossed reportedly over $6.1 million in Mexico alone, [1] [2] while according to Deadline Hollywood, "Peru ($2.5M) and Argentina ($1.55M) gave Fox its biggest opening weekend ever, followed by Chile ($1.7M) with the industry’s 3rd biggest animation opening of all time. In Colombia it's Fox's 4th biggest opening weekend ever at $1.5M and in Ecuador, the Toei anime fantasy is Fox's top launch ever, and the 3rd best superhero bow, behind Avengers: Infinity War and Thor: Ragnarok". [3] In its 5th public weekend ending 13 January 2019, the movie grossed $20.3 million from 17 territories, becoming the weekend's third top-grossing film in international markets, behind only Bumblebee and Aquaman, which brought the film's worldwide gross to $54.3 million ahead of its United States premiere. [3] [4] [5]
and
... Thor: Ragnarok" with $1.3M. [6] [3] In its 5th public weekend ending 13 January 2019, the movie grossed $19.2 million from 17 territories, becoming the weekend's third top-grossing film in international markets, behind only Bumblebee and Aquaman, which brought the film's worldwide gross to $53.5 million ahead of its United States premiere. [7]
References
According to RS listed chronologically with a date of release in discussion "References":
13 January
14 January
16 January
According to RS listed or not currently on the article:
Both BOM and Comscore, as well other box office reporting websites, have their own established credibility, and none of them has a right on "factual" information as all of them provide "estimates". On the website of BOM itself is clearly written that the gross is an "(Estimate)". All these sources are reliable, and considering WP:WEIGHT i.e. coverage of each gross number, then $54(.3)M was more widely reported than $53.5M, which according to Wikipedian editing policy implies that one has a bit higher prominence i.e. proportional weight in RS than the other ( WP:PROPORTION, WP:BALANCE), if not almost the same if is ignored Comic Book, hence both are usable for inclusion. In other words, as there included both Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic (etc.) for an average rating of critical reviews so should be included box office estimates of both BOM and Comscore - only then is established neutrality per WP:NPOV. As a minor note regarding current section's revision, the 6th and 7th source are the same and lack citation style which violates WP:CITEVAR (something I was warning and correcting editors on the article for almost a month), while movie titles of Bumblebee and Aquaman don't follow MOS:TITLE (lack italic quotation marks).-- Miki Filigranski ( talk) 01:07, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
I am noticing this as well.
This user is making edits without any investigation in the citation link. His edits represents false and outdated information. Citations are here to justify the informations. To
Miki Filigranski, Please do not make edits without further investigation and also do not remove citations without proper explanation.
Sincerely,
Masum Reza(
talk)
18:33, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
As this article points out,the movie has made $72 million from Fox Markets.
Box Office Mojo's gross of $71.93 (which is merely the actual gross) is from upon Fox markets. The page includes other individual grosses from other distributors like Australia and UK but these grosses are not included with the figure that was reported by Fox. Scabab ( talk) 08:24, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
The plot summary states that Broly transforms into his Legendary Super Saiyan form, but I don't think this form is ever named in this movie. The previous 3 non-canon movies label this as such but this movie is considered canon. This form should be unnamed until it's officially given one. DrkBlueXG ( talk) 21:31, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
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