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I would like to share the observation/feedback that I find the section on Autistic masking to be overly negative.
In particular, the statement "Masking begins at a young age as a defense mechanism to avoid harassment and bullying" and subsequent discussion makes it seem like all (or at least the overwhelming majority of) autistic masking is the result of harassment and bullying. This is neither supported by academic research nor by reports of autistic people. Autistic people learn to mask and do mask for a variety of reasons, most commonly a desire to fit in socially.
The recent book
Sedgewick, Felicity; Hull, Laura; Ellis, Helen (2021). Autism and Masking: How and Why People Do It, and the Impact It Can Have. London: Jessica Kingsley Publishers. ISBN 1-78775-580-0. OCLC 1287133295.
contains a short section on the double empathy problem (pp. 162--170). It doesn't discuss bullying in this context but makes some interesting observations on masking in interactions between autistic persons.
Is there a research paper that has explicitly explored masking from the framework of the double empathy problem? This would be a great addition for the entry on autistic masking as well!-- TempusTacet ( talk) 21:47, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
This line in the problems section bothers me:
"Furthermore, autism intervention research based on theory of mind has shown little efficacy[...]"
It seems to be promoting an understanding of autism as something to be solved or intervened in, which is part of the pathologising medical model of disability. The line presents effective intervention as a measure of success for a theory of autistic empathy, which suggests that autistic people need to be changed to be valuable/functional.
This is just my two cents as someone with suspected autism, I'll leave it to those more engaged with the research to make any changes. 130.195.253.45 ( talk) 00:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
From my understanding, there is no such things "double empathy" in isolation - in the phrase "double empathy problem", it is the problem that is double, not the empathy. I think this point needs to be clarified, and the wording throughout the article needs to be made consistent.
Ganondox ( talk) 05:49, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to share the observation/feedback that I find the section on Autistic masking to be overly negative.
In particular, the statement "Masking begins at a young age as a defense mechanism to avoid harassment and bullying" and subsequent discussion makes it seem like all (or at least the overwhelming majority of) autistic masking is the result of harassment and bullying. This is neither supported by academic research nor by reports of autistic people. Autistic people learn to mask and do mask for a variety of reasons, most commonly a desire to fit in socially.
The recent book
Sedgewick, Felicity; Hull, Laura; Ellis, Helen (2021). Autism and Masking: How and Why People Do It, and the Impact It Can Have. London: Jessica Kingsley Publishers. ISBN 1-78775-580-0. OCLC 1287133295.
contains a short section on the double empathy problem (pp. 162--170). It doesn't discuss bullying in this context but makes some interesting observations on masking in interactions between autistic persons.
Is there a research paper that has explicitly explored masking from the framework of the double empathy problem? This would be a great addition for the entry on autistic masking as well!-- TempusTacet ( talk) 21:47, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
This line in the problems section bothers me:
"Furthermore, autism intervention research based on theory of mind has shown little efficacy[...]"
It seems to be promoting an understanding of autism as something to be solved or intervened in, which is part of the pathologising medical model of disability. The line presents effective intervention as a measure of success for a theory of autistic empathy, which suggests that autistic people need to be changed to be valuable/functional.
This is just my two cents as someone with suspected autism, I'll leave it to those more engaged with the research to make any changes. 130.195.253.45 ( talk) 00:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
From my understanding, there is no such things "double empathy" in isolation - in the phrase "double empathy problem", it is the problem that is double, not the empathy. I think this point needs to be clarified, and the wording throughout the article needs to be made consistent.
Ganondox ( talk) 05:49, 12 August 2023 (UTC)