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As revealed by the IFCO. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daerl ( talk • contribs) 12:17, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
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I edited this once but apparently it was reverted. Why is there a half-paragraph on "fridging", out of one paragraph for Morena Baccarin, in the Cast section which has very little to do with casting? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.25.111 ( talk) 11:33, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
The death/murder of a person close to the superhero is a common plot element in comic books: Superman's and Batman's parents deaths, Spider-man's Uncle Ben's murder, etc. It often motivates the hero towards a life of pursuing criminals. The death of Deadpool's girlfriend motivated him to save Firefist (the kid) from a life of crime. So it is more a common superhero plot element, and not sexist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.114.108.98 ( talk) 15:07, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
I second/third the proposal to remove or abridge the discussion of "fridging" from the cast section, as this is a discussion tangential to the actual character, the actress, or the casting choice. While it is an element of the character and her arc, the fact that it takes up the great majority of the section on the character, and makes that section larger than more prominent characters, seems disproportionate and indicates an ideological, not factual or utility-based reason for its inclusion and length. Also - adamstom I notice you seem to always be the one making the reverts, pitting you against several other editors and allowing your preferred version to stand due almost solely to persistence (and having the time to edit) rather than logical argument. I request you reconsider your position, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.27.62 ( talk) 02:36, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
If the attribution meets the standards of relevance, wouldn't it be more appropiate to cite within an article about fridging? Dropping it in the middle of the casting section for a film that is widely known for other reasons, appears to be more activism than encyclopedic zeal 186.185.64.83 ( talk) 20:12, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Regardless of whether it should or should not be in the article, I would not consider the way it is written now as encyclopedic style. In particular the second sentence currently reads like something plagiarized from a bad TVTropes article. I'd recommend moving it to a "Controversies" section, especially considering a large chunk of it is focused on the justifications of Rhett Reese, "Leitch" and "the writers", not the character or actress. Right now the only description of the actual character in the section is "Wilson's fiancée", which I feel could stand to be fleshed out a bit more. Hopefully we can reach some kind of compromise that finds space for both the fridging issue and a well-rounded summary. 2DLove ( talk) 18:30, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
WP:MOSFILM doesn't specifically address how to deal with Plot sections for different versions of the same film but I'm fairly sure the Plot section should be not include information that was missing from the Theatrical release and were only included in the extended DVD edition. Feel free to add details about those scenes to the Home media section, sources shouldn't be hard to find. -- 109.77.223.215 ( talk) 15:37, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Only a few days ago an IP editor " added words" to the intro. The words claimed that critics had praised the mid-credits sequence. No evidence was given for this and the reviews already in the article didn't draw attention to this either. The intro should summarize the contents of the article, this doesn't. This edit was recent and without anything to back it up.
First why is anyone insisting on keeping it? Second why is anyone insisting on keeping it without adding to the article body to show that it might actually have some merit?
I found a reviewer that made not of the mid-credits sequence, but Helen O'Hara of The Telegraph' writes: "Deadpool 2 was clearly made to cater to existing fans with every innuendo-filled moment (they should stay through the credits for some important story points that are very nearly thrown away)." which if anything is not praising the sequence but criticizing the film for almost throwing away important story elements. -- 109.77.248.237 ( talk) 10:37, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Should this maybe be split into it's own article? It's going to create a lot of issues of how to handle the plot/reception/box office (both Rotten Romates and Boox Office Mojo are treating it as a separate film) sections otherwise. And the subject itself has gained a lot of media attention, I'd say it's notable on it's own. ★Trekker ( talk) 09:51, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps there should be mention of the slight editing errors, such as during the attack on the convoy deadpool is shot through the hand yet there is no wound in this edit, then he is shot multiple times by Cable without bullet wounds, however after being ripped in half by Juggernaut the top half is riddled with bullet wounds including a bloody hole in his hand. 23:14 2019-01-20 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.171.171 ( talk) 04:14, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
OK folks, can we talk about what is going on here? Nearly every reliable source out there is saying Joker has dethroned DP2 as the highest-grossing R movie, but it keeps getting reverted and restored here with either no context, no new sources, or a simple "Forbes was wrong." What are we using to say Forbes is wrong? Having a discrepancy between the Joker page (which says it is the highest-grossing R film), the top R movie list, and this page makes us look bad. Paging those involved SassyCollins, TheNamelessIndividual Cardei012597 Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 16:40, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
I still think there's some need to have a clarification that the film is no longer the top R-rated film, the way it's written right now seems a bit misleading to someone who would not be familiar. Especially when you click the linked page and Joker is at the top. No need to name Joker specifically, could just be a parenthetical (e.g. "at the time") or a split to say it is the second-highest. Wikipedia is always evolving, so we shouldn't sacrifice clarity for not wanting to update the article if new information comes out. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 20:55, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
In the lead and/or body, should a film that surpasses a current one for highest box office gross be named? Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 21:54, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
I have now adjusted Terminator 2 (1991), The Matrix Reloaded (2003), Deadpool (2016), and Deadpool 2 (2018) as these are the four highest-grossing R-rated films before Joker. Cheers. SassyCollins ( talk) 11:06, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Given there is a pg-13 rated so I feel it should be added as another plot version with the receptions for that as well. Kohcohf ( talk) 16:13, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Deadpool (2018 film) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 26#SM (2002 film) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 16:47, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
It’s not set yet but Morena Baccarin I think it should be mentioned the stays of the progress of her potential return for Deadpool 3. Simply just to say where she’s at. Here 0Detail-Attention215 ( talk) 17:36, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
Is there enough information to start an article for it? Especially now with Vanessa and Colossus confirmed to return? Here 0Detail-Attention215 ( talk) 18:19, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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This page lists Arcade (Marvel Comics) a having a cameo by Paul Wernick. However, the source used ( this one) does not mention Arcade at all, only saying that Wernick appeared as a news cameraman. Malachi108 ( talk) 15:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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As revealed by the IFCO. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daerl ( talk • contribs) 12:17, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
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I edited this once but apparently it was reverted. Why is there a half-paragraph on "fridging", out of one paragraph for Morena Baccarin, in the Cast section which has very little to do with casting? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.25.111 ( talk) 11:33, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
The death/murder of a person close to the superhero is a common plot element in comic books: Superman's and Batman's parents deaths, Spider-man's Uncle Ben's murder, etc. It often motivates the hero towards a life of pursuing criminals. The death of Deadpool's girlfriend motivated him to save Firefist (the kid) from a life of crime. So it is more a common superhero plot element, and not sexist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.114.108.98 ( talk) 15:07, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
I second/third the proposal to remove or abridge the discussion of "fridging" from the cast section, as this is a discussion tangential to the actual character, the actress, or the casting choice. While it is an element of the character and her arc, the fact that it takes up the great majority of the section on the character, and makes that section larger than more prominent characters, seems disproportionate and indicates an ideological, not factual or utility-based reason for its inclusion and length. Also - adamstom I notice you seem to always be the one making the reverts, pitting you against several other editors and allowing your preferred version to stand due almost solely to persistence (and having the time to edit) rather than logical argument. I request you reconsider your position, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.27.62 ( talk) 02:36, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
If the attribution meets the standards of relevance, wouldn't it be more appropiate to cite within an article about fridging? Dropping it in the middle of the casting section for a film that is widely known for other reasons, appears to be more activism than encyclopedic zeal 186.185.64.83 ( talk) 20:12, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Regardless of whether it should or should not be in the article, I would not consider the way it is written now as encyclopedic style. In particular the second sentence currently reads like something plagiarized from a bad TVTropes article. I'd recommend moving it to a "Controversies" section, especially considering a large chunk of it is focused on the justifications of Rhett Reese, "Leitch" and "the writers", not the character or actress. Right now the only description of the actual character in the section is "Wilson's fiancée", which I feel could stand to be fleshed out a bit more. Hopefully we can reach some kind of compromise that finds space for both the fridging issue and a well-rounded summary. 2DLove ( talk) 18:30, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
WP:MOSFILM doesn't specifically address how to deal with Plot sections for different versions of the same film but I'm fairly sure the Plot section should be not include information that was missing from the Theatrical release and were only included in the extended DVD edition. Feel free to add details about those scenes to the Home media section, sources shouldn't be hard to find. -- 109.77.223.215 ( talk) 15:37, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Only a few days ago an IP editor " added words" to the intro. The words claimed that critics had praised the mid-credits sequence. No evidence was given for this and the reviews already in the article didn't draw attention to this either. The intro should summarize the contents of the article, this doesn't. This edit was recent and without anything to back it up.
First why is anyone insisting on keeping it? Second why is anyone insisting on keeping it without adding to the article body to show that it might actually have some merit?
I found a reviewer that made not of the mid-credits sequence, but Helen O'Hara of The Telegraph' writes: "Deadpool 2 was clearly made to cater to existing fans with every innuendo-filled moment (they should stay through the credits for some important story points that are very nearly thrown away)." which if anything is not praising the sequence but criticizing the film for almost throwing away important story elements. -- 109.77.248.237 ( talk) 10:37, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Should this maybe be split into it's own article? It's going to create a lot of issues of how to handle the plot/reception/box office (both Rotten Romates and Boox Office Mojo are treating it as a separate film) sections otherwise. And the subject itself has gained a lot of media attention, I'd say it's notable on it's own. ★Trekker ( talk) 09:51, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps there should be mention of the slight editing errors, such as during the attack on the convoy deadpool is shot through the hand yet there is no wound in this edit, then he is shot multiple times by Cable without bullet wounds, however after being ripped in half by Juggernaut the top half is riddled with bullet wounds including a bloody hole in his hand. 23:14 2019-01-20 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.171.171 ( talk) 04:14, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
OK folks, can we talk about what is going on here? Nearly every reliable source out there is saying Joker has dethroned DP2 as the highest-grossing R movie, but it keeps getting reverted and restored here with either no context, no new sources, or a simple "Forbes was wrong." What are we using to say Forbes is wrong? Having a discrepancy between the Joker page (which says it is the highest-grossing R film), the top R movie list, and this page makes us look bad. Paging those involved SassyCollins, TheNamelessIndividual Cardei012597 Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 16:40, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
I still think there's some need to have a clarification that the film is no longer the top R-rated film, the way it's written right now seems a bit misleading to someone who would not be familiar. Especially when you click the linked page and Joker is at the top. No need to name Joker specifically, could just be a parenthetical (e.g. "at the time") or a split to say it is the second-highest. Wikipedia is always evolving, so we shouldn't sacrifice clarity for not wanting to update the article if new information comes out. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 20:55, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
In the lead and/or body, should a film that surpasses a current one for highest box office gross be named? Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 21:54, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
I have now adjusted Terminator 2 (1991), The Matrix Reloaded (2003), Deadpool (2016), and Deadpool 2 (2018) as these are the four highest-grossing R-rated films before Joker. Cheers. SassyCollins ( talk) 11:06, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Given there is a pg-13 rated so I feel it should be added as another plot version with the receptions for that as well. Kohcohf ( talk) 16:13, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Deadpool (2018 film) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 26#SM (2002 film) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 16:47, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
It’s not set yet but Morena Baccarin I think it should be mentioned the stays of the progress of her potential return for Deadpool 3. Simply just to say where she’s at. Here 0Detail-Attention215 ( talk) 17:36, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
Is there enough information to start an article for it? Especially now with Vanessa and Colossus confirmed to return? Here 0Detail-Attention215 ( talk) 18:19, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Yukio - Deadpool 2.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InfiniteNexus ( talk • contribs) 23:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
This page lists Arcade (Marvel Comics) a having a cameo by Paul Wernick. However, the source used ( this one) does not mention Arcade at all, only saying that Wernick appeared as a news cameraman. Malachi108 ( talk) 15:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)