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There are a few things missing from this article. But it's been literally decades since I saw the film last so I'm not in a position to add them:
Wardster321 02:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC) answers:
23skidoo 04:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Wardster321 07:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC) answers:
The review of this film is overly harsh and impatient. Dark Star should be viewed in the context of other 'professional' science fiction films of the 1970's (before Star Wars) against which, Dark Star compares quite favorably. Indeed, the beach ball alien is one of the film's highlights and points to Nick Castle's skill as a physical actor (or puppeteer). The elevator shaft sequence is another moment crafted with no shortage of ingenuity and manages to feel convincing even after one realizes how the illusion was achieved.
The film is available now On DVD through VCI Entertainment. The DVD contains both the original student film and theatrical versions in wide screen.
I find it surprising that there is no mention of 2001: A Space Odyssey in this article. Dark Star clearly satirizes the Stanley Kubrick movie, inasmuch as both movies feature conflicts between the crew and destructive artificial intelligences (Hal in 2001 and Bomb #20 in Dark Star). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.30.97.121 ( talk) 18:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
It appears there may be a number of cases where the names in the film's credits were more or less invented; aliases or something similar, possibly to disguise the idea that fewer people actually worked on it? (May be relatively common, on small films? Robert Rodriguez admits to it, in his Rebel Without a Crew book.) Anyway, while I don't have relevant citations available, I'd suggest that viewers pay close attention to the voices of the two bombs. In my opinion, that's Dan O'Bannon talking. Note also that O'Bannon himself says in the DVD extras for Return of the Living Dead (one of his later films) that the voice of an unseen helicopter pilot, heard over a loudspeaker, was O'Bannon's voice. Wardster321 19:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
This article needs a spoiler warning.. how do I do that... can someone do it for me please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.86.142.111 ( talk) 19:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I remember reading a short story that was obviously used as the basis for the ending of this movie.
It starts in the immediate aftermath of an explosion on a ship near the Earth, with each of the crewmembers drifting off in different directions. One is pulled towards the Trojans (IIRC), I seem to recall another talking about surfing, and the main character is pulled towards Earth. The story ends with a child noticing the re-entering astronaut and wishing on the "shooting star".
Is this ringing any bells? I seem to recall it was in a collection of Nebula winners, or the like.
Maury ( talk) 23:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Its one of the short stories that makes up part of the Ray Bradbury collection, The illustrated Man. If anybody could get more info I think it should be used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taksraven ( talk • contribs) 01:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
The story was called Kaleidoscope, and was from the Ray Bradbury anthology The Illustrated Man, published in 1951. In the story, several men survive a spaceship explosion and are propelled in different directions. They have a conversation via their suit radios. One man finds himself in a meteor swarm and one enters the atmosphere of Earth and becomes a shooting star as he burns up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.30.97.121 ( talk) 19:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Please do not add original research to the article, unless you have a reference that actually show someone in the production of the film saying they used Bradburys ending then you can't say it in the article. 67.8.72.12 ( talk) 06:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
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This article references some things (being singled out as an example of "philosophy in cinema", considered impressive for a student work, and the Vietnam reference) that aren't accompanied by actual references. There were a few references from magazines/books, but nothing regarding what part of the article they correlate to. I hid them for future use. Chad Hennings TOUCHDOWN• THURMAN THOMAS 17:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
This film just plain doesn't strike me as a comedy. 86.42.194.236 ( talk) 22:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
The only people describing "Dark Star" as a satire on Kubrick's "2001" are not SF enthusiasts, do not know what the word "satire" means and have not seen "2001" or "Dark Star". DS has nothing whatsoever to do with 2001. DS is probably the first true SF comedy movie and to date probably the best. The only thing that approaches it is the BBCs production of Douglas Adams book "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy". Comedy in SF movies is extremely rare and DS is very much a ground breaker and is worthy of greater appreciation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.44.101 ( talk) 02:54, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps this article should have a section given over to the satirical references to the bombing war to explain its satirical nature. For examples, 'Doolittle' is a reference to Gen. Doolittle of the Doolittle raids in World War Two. Tallby (spelled with two l's) is perhaps a reference to the Tallboy bomb , a British deep penetration earthquake bomb of World War Two. The expletives deleted during the diary recordings are obvious references to President Nixon and the Watergate tapes' "expletives deleted". Pinback perhaps refers to the "avoid the draft" anti-Vietnam pinbacks (lapel badges). Even the computer's calculation of the likely utility of bombing a planet is reminiscent of such computing used in the Vietnam war to select targets in Vietnam and Cambodia. Mjcbrown ( talk) 09:46, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
"This film just plain doesn't strike me as a comedy.86.42.194.236 (talk) 22:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)"
Jesus! I saw it in the cinema on original release and found it hilarious. CatNip48 ( talk) 13:55, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
The article is wrong concerning the teaching of epistemology to the bomb. I'm sure it was Phenomenology. Phenomenology and epistemology are different fields. One deals with the concepts of conciousness and the other deals with the structure of knowledge.
Also, here is the script entry.
POWELL No, no, Doolittle, you talk to it. Teach it Phenomenology, Doolittle.
scope_creep ( talk) 13:21, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
The IMDB trivia pages seem to be a less then reliable source and it is used as the primary source for much of the information in this article. If anyone cares please try to find some better sourcing for the article. 67.8.72.12 ( talk) 08:15, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
This article had several quality tags attached, with no discussion of what, specifically, they were intended to address. I've removed the tags, if you replace them please outline your reasons here. Msaunier ( talk) 14:05, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
I love this article and in particular I think the "Bradbury Tribute" subsection, under "Analysis", is rather good. Having said that I do wonder if Wikipedia is really the right place for it - it seems (at least in its current, unreferenced form) to read a bit like someone's personal analysis with a strong flavour of WP:OR and/or WP:SYNTH. I would hate for this nice stuff to vanish completely from the web but I do wonder if it would not be better housed in a blog/forum sort of environment, rather than presented here as fact. And at the end it starts to tell us what is profound and what is marvelous, which seems a little unusual by WP standards. Can it be referenced from WP:RSs to support what is there, or should it be here at all, or what? Best wishes DBaK ( talk) 17:39, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
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On the DVD extras, two trivia questions are posed: (paraphrasing) 1. Which character was played by 4 different actors? 2. Which actor was under the influence of LSD, during which scene? Does anyone have those answers, and should they be added somewhere in the article? (yes please!) -- Davecampbell ( talk) 15:54, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Charlie42s ( talk) 16:19, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
I changed the 45+38 numbers to 68+15. (Sorry, I forgot to note it in the 'type of edit' box.) I admit that the 45+38 numbers make more sense but they are not cited and my DVD box says 68+15. I don't know how to write out a citation of that nature but it could be so added if someone wanted. (The DVD is copyrighted 2001 Blair & Associates, Ltd. and is distributed by VCI.) On that note, my DVD says nothing about a transfer from types of film like this article mentions in the same area I edited. I also think the DVD subsection is a little misleading in that my 2001 edition does have both versions of the film, though not the other special features mentioned. But, still, the article makes it sound possible that the 2010 edition was the first to feature both versions and that's not the case. It just as the featurette/commentary additions. - 74.162.152.154 ( talk) 01:20, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
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We started out with something like forty-five minutes of footage, and we had a lot of faith in that footage.
This strikes me as a dubious extrapolation. If one consults the more accessible Konow article, the description is
Although it solved a major problem on the film, O’Bannon later said, “I was never thrilled with it,” and the experience left him wanting to create a frighteningly real alien one day. “It was that beach ball that made me want to do Alien so badly."
I'm not seeing anything resembling a "reworking" of the scene itself. 108.69.74.140 ( talk) 21:45, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
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2013 this line was added by an anonymous editor without citation: John Carpenter would later lament that as a result of this padding into a feature length movie, their "great looking student film" became a "terrible looking feature film".
Nothing I can find appears to precede this, though there are many uses of the line appearing afterwards. -
tronvillain (
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20:59, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
This has all been uncited for years, so I'm moving it here in case anyone has anything to support any of it:
In the "elevator" sequence, the bottom of the elevator is in fact rolling on the floor. The device used to roll the elevator base was a Moviola camera dolly normally used on the small sound stage in the old USC Cinema building (a former horse stable). The steering arm of the dolly can be seen in the "elevator's" underside. Talby's starsuit backpack is made from Styrofoam packing material and his spacesuit chestplate is a cake pan and muffin tray. The space helmets were part of Ideal Toys S.T.A.R. Team toy line for young children, [1] resulting in the snug fit on the adult actors' heads. The double rows of large buttons on the bridge consoles are ice cube trays illuminated from beneath. Sergeant Pinback's video diary is an 8-track tape and the machine he uses to read and record is a microfiche reader. The bombs are made from an AMT 1/25 scale semi-trailer kit and parts of a 1/12th scale model car kit; " Matra", the name of the car brand can be seen in some shots. [2] The space suits are made to resemble the space suit of the Mattel action figure " Major Matt Mason", which was used in slightly modified form as a miniature in some effects shots.
The film featured the first hyperspace sequence to show the effect of stars rushing past the Dark Star vessel in a tunnel-effect (due to superluminal velocity) and the technique was used in Star Wars three years later.
References
Pinback simply stating that he is actually Bill Froug, liquid fuel specialist, doesn't establish it as fact within fiction. After he tells the others, they comment:
B: "He told us this... four years ago, didn't he?" D: "No, I think it was four years ago." B: "That's what I said... I'm sure it was four years ago." D: "Maybe."
That's an acknowledgement of the claim, but it is neither a confirmation nor a denial of it being true. -- tronvillain ( talk) 22:40, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
(UNDENT) There seems a lot of confusion in this thread. To put all this straight:
From the late Joe Bethancourt on youtube, the long-rumored 3rd lost stanza is:
The seasons spin on by
like seconds on the ship
but I'll take another pull
from the flask that's at my hip.
The mighta-beens and the never-weres
can drive a man insane.
So I guess I'll stay out in the void
'cause Benson's not the same.
BENSON ARIZONA, the warm wind through your hair
my body flies the galaxy, my heart longs to be there.
BENSON ARIZONA, the same stars in the sky
but they seemed so much kinder
when we watched them you and I.
watch?v=xjvNQJ8Rd9g
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There are a few things missing from this article. But it's been literally decades since I saw the film last so I'm not in a position to add them:
Wardster321 02:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC) answers:
23skidoo 04:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Wardster321 07:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC) answers:
The review of this film is overly harsh and impatient. Dark Star should be viewed in the context of other 'professional' science fiction films of the 1970's (before Star Wars) against which, Dark Star compares quite favorably. Indeed, the beach ball alien is one of the film's highlights and points to Nick Castle's skill as a physical actor (or puppeteer). The elevator shaft sequence is another moment crafted with no shortage of ingenuity and manages to feel convincing even after one realizes how the illusion was achieved.
The film is available now On DVD through VCI Entertainment. The DVD contains both the original student film and theatrical versions in wide screen.
I find it surprising that there is no mention of 2001: A Space Odyssey in this article. Dark Star clearly satirizes the Stanley Kubrick movie, inasmuch as both movies feature conflicts between the crew and destructive artificial intelligences (Hal in 2001 and Bomb #20 in Dark Star). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.30.97.121 ( talk) 18:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
It appears there may be a number of cases where the names in the film's credits were more or less invented; aliases or something similar, possibly to disguise the idea that fewer people actually worked on it? (May be relatively common, on small films? Robert Rodriguez admits to it, in his Rebel Without a Crew book.) Anyway, while I don't have relevant citations available, I'd suggest that viewers pay close attention to the voices of the two bombs. In my opinion, that's Dan O'Bannon talking. Note also that O'Bannon himself says in the DVD extras for Return of the Living Dead (one of his later films) that the voice of an unseen helicopter pilot, heard over a loudspeaker, was O'Bannon's voice. Wardster321 19:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
This article needs a spoiler warning.. how do I do that... can someone do it for me please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.86.142.111 ( talk) 19:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I remember reading a short story that was obviously used as the basis for the ending of this movie.
It starts in the immediate aftermath of an explosion on a ship near the Earth, with each of the crewmembers drifting off in different directions. One is pulled towards the Trojans (IIRC), I seem to recall another talking about surfing, and the main character is pulled towards Earth. The story ends with a child noticing the re-entering astronaut and wishing on the "shooting star".
Is this ringing any bells? I seem to recall it was in a collection of Nebula winners, or the like.
Maury ( talk) 23:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Its one of the short stories that makes up part of the Ray Bradbury collection, The illustrated Man. If anybody could get more info I think it should be used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taksraven ( talk • contribs) 01:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
The story was called Kaleidoscope, and was from the Ray Bradbury anthology The Illustrated Man, published in 1951. In the story, several men survive a spaceship explosion and are propelled in different directions. They have a conversation via their suit radios. One man finds himself in a meteor swarm and one enters the atmosphere of Earth and becomes a shooting star as he burns up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.30.97.121 ( talk) 19:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Please do not add original research to the article, unless you have a reference that actually show someone in the production of the film saying they used Bradburys ending then you can't say it in the article. 67.8.72.12 ( talk) 06:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
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This article references some things (being singled out as an example of "philosophy in cinema", considered impressive for a student work, and the Vietnam reference) that aren't accompanied by actual references. There were a few references from magazines/books, but nothing regarding what part of the article they correlate to. I hid them for future use. Chad Hennings TOUCHDOWN• THURMAN THOMAS 17:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
This film just plain doesn't strike me as a comedy. 86.42.194.236 ( talk) 22:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
The only people describing "Dark Star" as a satire on Kubrick's "2001" are not SF enthusiasts, do not know what the word "satire" means and have not seen "2001" or "Dark Star". DS has nothing whatsoever to do with 2001. DS is probably the first true SF comedy movie and to date probably the best. The only thing that approaches it is the BBCs production of Douglas Adams book "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy". Comedy in SF movies is extremely rare and DS is very much a ground breaker and is worthy of greater appreciation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.44.101 ( talk) 02:54, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps this article should have a section given over to the satirical references to the bombing war to explain its satirical nature. For examples, 'Doolittle' is a reference to Gen. Doolittle of the Doolittle raids in World War Two. Tallby (spelled with two l's) is perhaps a reference to the Tallboy bomb , a British deep penetration earthquake bomb of World War Two. The expletives deleted during the diary recordings are obvious references to President Nixon and the Watergate tapes' "expletives deleted". Pinback perhaps refers to the "avoid the draft" anti-Vietnam pinbacks (lapel badges). Even the computer's calculation of the likely utility of bombing a planet is reminiscent of such computing used in the Vietnam war to select targets in Vietnam and Cambodia. Mjcbrown ( talk) 09:46, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
"This film just plain doesn't strike me as a comedy.86.42.194.236 (talk) 22:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)"
Jesus! I saw it in the cinema on original release and found it hilarious. CatNip48 ( talk) 13:55, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
The article is wrong concerning the teaching of epistemology to the bomb. I'm sure it was Phenomenology. Phenomenology and epistemology are different fields. One deals with the concepts of conciousness and the other deals with the structure of knowledge.
Also, here is the script entry.
POWELL No, no, Doolittle, you talk to it. Teach it Phenomenology, Doolittle.
scope_creep ( talk) 13:21, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
The IMDB trivia pages seem to be a less then reliable source and it is used as the primary source for much of the information in this article. If anyone cares please try to find some better sourcing for the article. 67.8.72.12 ( talk) 08:15, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
This article had several quality tags attached, with no discussion of what, specifically, they were intended to address. I've removed the tags, if you replace them please outline your reasons here. Msaunier ( talk) 14:05, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
I love this article and in particular I think the "Bradbury Tribute" subsection, under "Analysis", is rather good. Having said that I do wonder if Wikipedia is really the right place for it - it seems (at least in its current, unreferenced form) to read a bit like someone's personal analysis with a strong flavour of WP:OR and/or WP:SYNTH. I would hate for this nice stuff to vanish completely from the web but I do wonder if it would not be better housed in a blog/forum sort of environment, rather than presented here as fact. And at the end it starts to tell us what is profound and what is marvelous, which seems a little unusual by WP standards. Can it be referenced from WP:RSs to support what is there, or should it be here at all, or what? Best wishes DBaK ( talk) 17:39, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
References
On the DVD extras, two trivia questions are posed: (paraphrasing) 1. Which character was played by 4 different actors? 2. Which actor was under the influence of LSD, during which scene? Does anyone have those answers, and should they be added somewhere in the article? (yes please!) -- Davecampbell ( talk) 15:54, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Charlie42s ( talk) 16:19, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
I changed the 45+38 numbers to 68+15. (Sorry, I forgot to note it in the 'type of edit' box.) I admit that the 45+38 numbers make more sense but they are not cited and my DVD box says 68+15. I don't know how to write out a citation of that nature but it could be so added if someone wanted. (The DVD is copyrighted 2001 Blair & Associates, Ltd. and is distributed by VCI.) On that note, my DVD says nothing about a transfer from types of film like this article mentions in the same area I edited. I also think the DVD subsection is a little misleading in that my 2001 edition does have both versions of the film, though not the other special features mentioned. But, still, the article makes it sound possible that the 2010 edition was the first to feature both versions and that's not the case. It just as the featurette/commentary additions. - 74.162.152.154 ( talk) 01:20, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
References
We started out with something like forty-five minutes of footage, and we had a lot of faith in that footage.
This strikes me as a dubious extrapolation. If one consults the more accessible Konow article, the description is
Although it solved a major problem on the film, O’Bannon later said, “I was never thrilled with it,” and the experience left him wanting to create a frighteningly real alien one day. “It was that beach ball that made me want to do Alien so badly."
I'm not seeing anything resembling a "reworking" of the scene itself. 108.69.74.140 ( talk) 21:45, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
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Back in
2013 this line was added by an anonymous editor without citation: John Carpenter would later lament that as a result of this padding into a feature length movie, their "great looking student film" became a "terrible looking feature film".
Nothing I can find appears to precede this, though there are many uses of the line appearing afterwards. -
tronvillain (
talk)
20:59, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
This has all been uncited for years, so I'm moving it here in case anyone has anything to support any of it:
In the "elevator" sequence, the bottom of the elevator is in fact rolling on the floor. The device used to roll the elevator base was a Moviola camera dolly normally used on the small sound stage in the old USC Cinema building (a former horse stable). The steering arm of the dolly can be seen in the "elevator's" underside. Talby's starsuit backpack is made from Styrofoam packing material and his spacesuit chestplate is a cake pan and muffin tray. The space helmets were part of Ideal Toys S.T.A.R. Team toy line for young children, [1] resulting in the snug fit on the adult actors' heads. The double rows of large buttons on the bridge consoles are ice cube trays illuminated from beneath. Sergeant Pinback's video diary is an 8-track tape and the machine he uses to read and record is a microfiche reader. The bombs are made from an AMT 1/25 scale semi-trailer kit and parts of a 1/12th scale model car kit; " Matra", the name of the car brand can be seen in some shots. [2] The space suits are made to resemble the space suit of the Mattel action figure " Major Matt Mason", which was used in slightly modified form as a miniature in some effects shots.
The film featured the first hyperspace sequence to show the effect of stars rushing past the Dark Star vessel in a tunnel-effect (due to superluminal velocity) and the technique was used in Star Wars three years later.
References
Pinback simply stating that he is actually Bill Froug, liquid fuel specialist, doesn't establish it as fact within fiction. After he tells the others, they comment:
B: "He told us this... four years ago, didn't he?" D: "No, I think it was four years ago." B: "That's what I said... I'm sure it was four years ago." D: "Maybe."
That's an acknowledgement of the claim, but it is neither a confirmation nor a denial of it being true. -- tronvillain ( talk) 22:40, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
(UNDENT) There seems a lot of confusion in this thread. To put all this straight:
From the late Joe Bethancourt on youtube, the long-rumored 3rd lost stanza is:
The seasons spin on by
like seconds on the ship
but I'll take another pull
from the flask that's at my hip.
The mighta-beens and the never-weres
can drive a man insane.
So I guess I'll stay out in the void
'cause Benson's not the same.
BENSON ARIZONA, the warm wind through your hair
my body flies the galaxy, my heart longs to be there.
BENSON ARIZONA, the same stars in the sky
but they seemed so much kinder
when we watched them you and I.
watch?v=xjvNQJ8Rd9g