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If they are not allowed, where should they go? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarfuls of Tweed ( talk • contribs) 10:36, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
I've flagged this source for verification of reliability. It's been added to source the statements:
The source is an essay on a web page that gives as it's source a talk delivered by a Rabbi in 1861.
I don't doubt that supporters of slavery have appealed to scripture over the centuries, as have opponents of slavery. However, this doesn't strike me as a particularly good source for the historical uses of scripture on this issue. Based on a quick read through it, the essay quotes Rabbi Raphall as saying that the Christian scriptures don't forbid slavery, and then pulls a series of scriptures and gives the author's own analysis how slavery is treated in the New Testament.
If we want to make the point that there was a historical pattern of slave owners appealing to scripture, there's got to be a better source.
It says in the Bible that God frees His people from slavery, through Moses. God created all people, everyone and everything. God is against slavery. He loves all people, and if not He wouldn't have made us, nor would He die for us. We were all created in His image. God doesn't hate us, only our sins. we are all sinful, which is why Jesus died for all of us. In fact, most of the points mentioned were valid, but if christians have done wrong hate the sins, not the people, and certainly not God and His Word, for they are right, just, good, holy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.247.88.228 ( talk) 13:33, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
Someone added the term ‘polytheism’ along with other intellectual arguments against Christianity; which now reads: “... The Intellectual arguments against Christianity include the suppositions that it is a faith of violence, corruption, superstition, polytheism, bigotry, and sectarianism.” Not only it is exceedingly Offensive to polytheism and we polytheists, but it also lacks citations: what are the evidences that Christianity is polytheistic? Who, which ‘intellectual’ in particular argued it? Please immediately delete it as it suggests serious interference from Christians targeting Polytheists. And why should the page be unreasonably protected anyways? Please unlock it. Polytheist01 ( talk) 10:47, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
No dears, it is not! The concept of the trinity is really complex, and not really mentioned as much, but: The Father (Jehovah) is God, The Son (Jesus) is God and The Holy Spirit is also God, the Father is not the Son nor The Holy Spirit and so on. Although they are 3 distinct beings, they are One. I know it's hard and confusing, but God has said that we aren't meant to know everything, because only God is all-knowing, and God doesn't need to operate in human ways. For His ways are Higher then ours. He only revealed what we need to know. Hope that helped! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.247.88.228 ( talk) 13:48, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
I recently WP:PRODed Chop-church as non-notable dictdef, that was declined. I added some sources but I am still not seeing any SIGCOV, and as a name for a corrupt church official I think it would be best to merge this here, where we can mention this as a synonym for a corrupt priest (in Early Modern UK or whatever?). Thoughts? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:47, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
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If they are not allowed, where should they go? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarfuls of Tweed ( talk • contribs) 10:36, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
I've flagged this source for verification of reliability. It's been added to source the statements:
The source is an essay on a web page that gives as it's source a talk delivered by a Rabbi in 1861.
I don't doubt that supporters of slavery have appealed to scripture over the centuries, as have opponents of slavery. However, this doesn't strike me as a particularly good source for the historical uses of scripture on this issue. Based on a quick read through it, the essay quotes Rabbi Raphall as saying that the Christian scriptures don't forbid slavery, and then pulls a series of scriptures and gives the author's own analysis how slavery is treated in the New Testament.
If we want to make the point that there was a historical pattern of slave owners appealing to scripture, there's got to be a better source.
It says in the Bible that God frees His people from slavery, through Moses. God created all people, everyone and everything. God is against slavery. He loves all people, and if not He wouldn't have made us, nor would He die for us. We were all created in His image. God doesn't hate us, only our sins. we are all sinful, which is why Jesus died for all of us. In fact, most of the points mentioned were valid, but if christians have done wrong hate the sins, not the people, and certainly not God and His Word, for they are right, just, good, holy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.247.88.228 ( talk) 13:33, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
Someone added the term ‘polytheism’ along with other intellectual arguments against Christianity; which now reads: “... The Intellectual arguments against Christianity include the suppositions that it is a faith of violence, corruption, superstition, polytheism, bigotry, and sectarianism.” Not only it is exceedingly Offensive to polytheism and we polytheists, but it also lacks citations: what are the evidences that Christianity is polytheistic? Who, which ‘intellectual’ in particular argued it? Please immediately delete it as it suggests serious interference from Christians targeting Polytheists. And why should the page be unreasonably protected anyways? Please unlock it. Polytheist01 ( talk) 10:47, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
No dears, it is not! The concept of the trinity is really complex, and not really mentioned as much, but: The Father (Jehovah) is God, The Son (Jesus) is God and The Holy Spirit is also God, the Father is not the Son nor The Holy Spirit and so on. Although they are 3 distinct beings, they are One. I know it's hard and confusing, but God has said that we aren't meant to know everything, because only God is all-knowing, and God doesn't need to operate in human ways. For His ways are Higher then ours. He only revealed what we need to know. Hope that helped! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.247.88.228 ( talk) 13:48, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
I recently WP:PRODed Chop-church as non-notable dictdef, that was declined. I added some sources but I am still not seeing any SIGCOV, and as a name for a corrupt church official I think it would be best to merge this here, where we can mention this as a synonym for a corrupt priest (in Early Modern UK or whatever?). Thoughts? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:47, 16 July 2021 (UTC)