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They stubbornly refer to sokubaikai as a "fan convention" (an event for fans to meet celebrities and each other), refuse to acknowledge the Comic Market by its official name, all of their sources are shitty articles written by ignorant people in the West, and when you try to correct them they say "that's how it is in English", "it's POV", "Japanese sources are unreliable so we use this shitty site". They think they know more than me with 15 years of doujin experience just by reading shit on Crunchyroll, ANN and other white people's playgrounds. That's it for me here/This place is dying (not sure how to translate that last one).-- Thibaut ( talk) 02:49, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
Search-engine hits are generally considered unreliable for testing whether one term is more common than another,even when they
suggest that no single term is predominant in English.I didn't revert the edit you referenced, but the phrasing you've provided implies that "Comike" is never used in English and "Comiket" is never used in Japanese, which is plainly not accurate. I see no problem with the current phrasing of the lead, which indicates that "Comic Market" is the official name for the event while "Comiket" and "Comike" are the more commonly-used shorthand for the event, with "Comiket" taking precedence as the name that is most generally common in English. Morgan695 ( talk) 02:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/search?q=%22コミケット%22&src=typed_query&f=live
(NSFW)) and it’s mentioned in the
Daijisen,
Daijirin and
Encyclopedia Nipponica (
[1]
[2]), as for the English-speaking world, most people refer to it as “Comiket”, probably because “comic market” is too generic, that’s why per
WP:COMMONNAME, the article is called “Comiket”.Why is the print directory a "Not-to-bring" item? Where did this...practice come from? Trent Arms 06:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
My answer: When I originally wrote the beginning portions of the CM FAQ (before contributing the condensed version to Wikipedia) I had a few Comikes under my belt. My feeling was that adequate preparation should be done ahead of time using the catalog at home to make maps, etc. to avoid lugging it around the convension (in addition to the doujinshi one would presumably purchase.) Obviously, there is no right or wrong to attending a convention - but having done both, I felt this was an appropriate decision. Ben Her 09:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Just wondering...the article references the supposed ban on lining up for the convention is forbidden, but is this actually enforced? I only have 2 Comike under my belt, both in 2004, but while we were all aware that our lining up like that was technically against the law, there was no enforcement (hell, if anything, there was full co-operation) of that by the police or by the convention staff. Or is this ban just on lining up on the days before the event, as suggested later on in the article? That much I suppose would make sense, seeing that the lines didn't seem to build or get organised until around midnight on either event. -- Mukashi 03:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Given that Comiket features heavily in the manga/anime series Genshiken, does it deserve a mention under a heading of "Comiket in Popular Culture"? David Bailey ( talk) 13:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
The eytomology of the word should be explained Curb Chain ( talk) 02:12, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
The article mentions a date for the upcoming comiket, but I can't find it on the official site. Where does this date come from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.195.66.217 ( talk) 08:21, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
What was the original venue? And how long has it been at the current venue ( Tokyo Big Sight)? Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 16:01, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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Should a section be added to describe what Comiket's stated goals/purpose are? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DriftWrench2k ( talk • contribs) 19:05, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
"Ticktank's English Guide to Comiket" and "The Road to Comiket" seem to be ancient blog posts by some random anonymous people, should they really be there? "Swarm Effect" is a Youtube video likewise uploaded by some anonymous user, that claims it is a video of "Black Friday in Japan". These seem highly inappropriate for Wikipedia. 2404:2D00:5000:701:FCA2:DD7:6AAA:86AE ( talk) 19:58, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
"Sites that fail to meet criteria for reliable sources yet still contain information about the subject of the article from knowledgeable sources"are permissible to include as external links. Anecdotal, but when I attended Comiket a few years ago I discovered Ticktank's guide through this article, and it proved to be extremely useful in planning my trip; when I cleaned up the article a few years ago, I pruned the external links but decided to keep both of those guides. I do agree that the "Swarm Effect" video is not useful due to the misattribution you've noted, and should be replaced by a video that correctly identifies the phenomenon as occurring at Comiket. Morgan695 ( talk) 20:33, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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They stubbornly refer to sokubaikai as a "fan convention" (an event for fans to meet celebrities and each other), refuse to acknowledge the Comic Market by its official name, all of their sources are shitty articles written by ignorant people in the West, and when you try to correct them they say "that's how it is in English", "it's POV", "Japanese sources are unreliable so we use this shitty site". They think they know more than me with 15 years of doujin experience just by reading shit on Crunchyroll, ANN and other white people's playgrounds. That's it for me here/This place is dying (not sure how to translate that last one).-- Thibaut ( talk) 02:49, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
Search-engine hits are generally considered unreliable for testing whether one term is more common than another,even when they
suggest that no single term is predominant in English.I didn't revert the edit you referenced, but the phrasing you've provided implies that "Comike" is never used in English and "Comiket" is never used in Japanese, which is plainly not accurate. I see no problem with the current phrasing of the lead, which indicates that "Comic Market" is the official name for the event while "Comiket" and "Comike" are the more commonly-used shorthand for the event, with "Comiket" taking precedence as the name that is most generally common in English. Morgan695 ( talk) 02:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/search?q=%22コミケット%22&src=typed_query&f=live
(NSFW)) and it’s mentioned in the
Daijisen,
Daijirin and
Encyclopedia Nipponica (
[1]
[2]), as for the English-speaking world, most people refer to it as “Comiket”, probably because “comic market” is too generic, that’s why per
WP:COMMONNAME, the article is called “Comiket”.Why is the print directory a "Not-to-bring" item? Where did this...practice come from? Trent Arms 06:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
My answer: When I originally wrote the beginning portions of the CM FAQ (before contributing the condensed version to Wikipedia) I had a few Comikes under my belt. My feeling was that adequate preparation should be done ahead of time using the catalog at home to make maps, etc. to avoid lugging it around the convension (in addition to the doujinshi one would presumably purchase.) Obviously, there is no right or wrong to attending a convention - but having done both, I felt this was an appropriate decision. Ben Her 09:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Just wondering...the article references the supposed ban on lining up for the convention is forbidden, but is this actually enforced? I only have 2 Comike under my belt, both in 2004, but while we were all aware that our lining up like that was technically against the law, there was no enforcement (hell, if anything, there was full co-operation) of that by the police or by the convention staff. Or is this ban just on lining up on the days before the event, as suggested later on in the article? That much I suppose would make sense, seeing that the lines didn't seem to build or get organised until around midnight on either event. -- Mukashi 03:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Given that Comiket features heavily in the manga/anime series Genshiken, does it deserve a mention under a heading of "Comiket in Popular Culture"? David Bailey ( talk) 13:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
The eytomology of the word should be explained Curb Chain ( talk) 02:12, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
The article mentions a date for the upcoming comiket, but I can't find it on the official site. Where does this date come from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.195.66.217 ( talk) 08:21, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
What was the original venue? And how long has it been at the current venue ( Tokyo Big Sight)? Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 16:01, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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Should a section be added to describe what Comiket's stated goals/purpose are? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DriftWrench2k ( talk • contribs) 19:05, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
"Ticktank's English Guide to Comiket" and "The Road to Comiket" seem to be ancient blog posts by some random anonymous people, should they really be there? "Swarm Effect" is a Youtube video likewise uploaded by some anonymous user, that claims it is a video of "Black Friday in Japan". These seem highly inappropriate for Wikipedia. 2404:2D00:5000:701:FCA2:DD7:6AAA:86AE ( talk) 19:58, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
"Sites that fail to meet criteria for reliable sources yet still contain information about the subject of the article from knowledgeable sources"are permissible to include as external links. Anecdotal, but when I attended Comiket a few years ago I discovered Ticktank's guide through this article, and it proved to be extremely useful in planning my trip; when I cleaned up the article a few years ago, I pruned the external links but decided to keep both of those guides. I do agree that the "Swarm Effect" video is not useful due to the misattribution you've noted, and should be replaced by a video that correctly identifies the phenomenon as occurring at Comiket. Morgan695 ( talk) 20:33, 31 December 2021 (UTC)