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I remain of the view that the lead section is... terrible. The wonder that it ever passed GAN in this state -- without detracting from the sterling efforts editors made considerably improving it in other respects, all kudos to those -- merely increases over time as his reign lengthens, and the "reign" paragraph fails to reflect that.
Specifically, p1 and p4 are absurdly undersized and uninformative, while p2 and p3 are long and trivia-packed. We learn that he spent six months in an Australian school six years ago, but not that he's currently head of state of that country. Nothing at all is said therein about his ongoing break from public duties on health grounds. We should significantly expand the former, and somewhat trim the latter. Or am I a lone voice in the wilderness on that? 109.255.211.6 ( talk) 03:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Charles became king upon his mother's death in 2022. At the age of 73 he was the oldest person to accede to the British throne, after having been the longest-serving heir apparent and Prince of Wales in British history. Significant events in his reign have included his coronation in 2023, as well as his diagnosis of cancer in 2024, the latter of which temporarily suspended planned public engagements.
Charles III ascended to the British throne following the death of his mother on September 8, 2022, becoming the oldest person to do so at the age of 73. His accession marked the end of his record-breaking 59-year tenure as the longest-serving British heir apparent. In his inaugural speech, Charles paid homage to his mother and announced the appointment of his elder son, William, as the Prince of Wales. The Accession Council publicly proclaimed him as king the next day, with the ceremony televised for the first time, attended by Queen Camilla, Prince William, and various political figures. His coronation, held at Westminster Abbey on May 6, 2023, under the code name Operation Golden Orb, was a significant event marked by its adherence to Church of England rites. During his reign, Charles and Camilla engaged in multiple state visits and received dignitaries, including hosting South African President Cyril Ramaphosa and undertaking state visits to Germany and France. However, his reign was not without health challenges, as he underwent a corrective procedure for benign prostate enlargement in January 2024, revealing the discovery of cancer during treatment, albeit not prostate cancer. Despite health setbacks, Charles remained committed to fulfilling his constitutional duties, with Camilla deputizing for him during his recovery period at various public engagements, underscoring the resilience of the monarchy under his reign.
Charles III became king of the United Kingdom upon the death of his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, in September 2022, marking the end of his record-breaking tenure as the longest-serving heir apparent. His accession was followed by a televised proclamation ceremony and his coronation at Westminster Abbey in May 2023. Throughout his reign, Charles and Queen Camilla engaged in state visits and received dignitaries, showcasing the monarchy's diplomatic role. However, health challenges arose in early 2024 when Charles underwent a procedure for benign prostate enlargement, revealing the presence of non-prostate cancer. Despite this setback, Charles remained committed to his duties, with Queen Camilla deputizing for him at public events during his recovery.Thoughts? 109.255.211.6 ( talk) 12:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
I read "Significant events in his reign have included his coronation in 2023, and his cancer diagnosis the following year, the latter of which temporarily suspended planned public engagements." I suggest to (factually) say hat he and his wife were crowned, then what he did, then that he was diagnosed and not participating in public functions. To claim that the two "significant events" were two where he was passive seems unfair ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
But this article says:
I would write it like this:
To say that someone is "King of the Kingdom of Somewhere" rather than just that he is "King of Somewhere" is redundant. Michael Hardy ( talk) 17:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Last April, I added that the King's approval rating was about 55 per cent. One year later, they now show it at 58 per cent. I think it should be updated.
Source: [1] StrawWord298944 ( talk) 21:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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I kindly suggest that the attached photo be added to the King's media and public perception section. The image depicts him opening the Sandton Hilton in South Africa with CEO Peter George, approximately two months after Princess Diana died. Prince Harry was also present at this event, but is not pictured.
Szeremeta ( talk) 17:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Note: The requestor has disclosed COI with Peter George (businessman). See Special:PermanentLink/1221607498 for more details. Melmann 23:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi,
My change to include "Head of the Commonwealth" as a separate section in the infobox was reverted. I think this is a good change as it seems strange for being head of the Commonwealth to be the first thing mentioned in the infobox. It also seems to go against the point of the title field, which is to display the "Principal substantive title(s) in use". I don't think being head of the Commonwealth is the principal title of Charles III.
I also think including it separately may be worth it for Charles and not the other monarchs, as the independence of the role is much greater. I don't think there was any doubt Elizabeth II would be Head of the Commonwealth, but there was such a discussion and a decision at CHOGM 2018 to choose Charles.
If a separate reign section isn't supported, I would still support removing Head of the Commonwealth from the title field and moving it to a separate footnote next to Commonwealth realms, like " King of the United Kingdom and other Commonwealth realm, and Head of the Commonwealth(footnote=Independently chosen at CHOGM 2018) Safes007 ( talk) 04:39, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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We have multiple articles about paintings of Elizabeth II. So far this one by Jonathan Yeo is the first of the new king to receive significant media attention. Does it deserve an article? Robin S. Taylor ( talk) 22:11, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
I believe it is quite polite and better suitable to use His Royal Majesty's official portrait as text-box picture, since it is the first thing you see upon entering the page, it would be just like his mother & predecessor's Wikipedia page, HRM Elizabeth II. Salesz ( talk) 22:51, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Maybe someone can make a mention about his wealth? he's officially richer than the Queen maybe because he inherited some of her wealth? I don't know. There is a source.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/entertainment/king-charles-iii-wealthier-than-queen-elizabeth-monarchs-fortune-soars-770-million 139.130.234.94 ( talk) 08:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
In 2023 The Guardian estimated Charles's personal wealth at £1.8 billion." So not sure how it has now "soared to £770 million." Martinevans123 ( talk) 14:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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I remain of the view that the lead section is... terrible. The wonder that it ever passed GAN in this state -- without detracting from the sterling efforts editors made considerably improving it in other respects, all kudos to those -- merely increases over time as his reign lengthens, and the "reign" paragraph fails to reflect that.
Specifically, p1 and p4 are absurdly undersized and uninformative, while p2 and p3 are long and trivia-packed. We learn that he spent six months in an Australian school six years ago, but not that he's currently head of state of that country. Nothing at all is said therein about his ongoing break from public duties on health grounds. We should significantly expand the former, and somewhat trim the latter. Or am I a lone voice in the wilderness on that? 109.255.211.6 ( talk) 03:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Charles became king upon his mother's death in 2022. At the age of 73 he was the oldest person to accede to the British throne, after having been the longest-serving heir apparent and Prince of Wales in British history. Significant events in his reign have included his coronation in 2023, as well as his diagnosis of cancer in 2024, the latter of which temporarily suspended planned public engagements.
Charles III ascended to the British throne following the death of his mother on September 8, 2022, becoming the oldest person to do so at the age of 73. His accession marked the end of his record-breaking 59-year tenure as the longest-serving British heir apparent. In his inaugural speech, Charles paid homage to his mother and announced the appointment of his elder son, William, as the Prince of Wales. The Accession Council publicly proclaimed him as king the next day, with the ceremony televised for the first time, attended by Queen Camilla, Prince William, and various political figures. His coronation, held at Westminster Abbey on May 6, 2023, under the code name Operation Golden Orb, was a significant event marked by its adherence to Church of England rites. During his reign, Charles and Camilla engaged in multiple state visits and received dignitaries, including hosting South African President Cyril Ramaphosa and undertaking state visits to Germany and France. However, his reign was not without health challenges, as he underwent a corrective procedure for benign prostate enlargement in January 2024, revealing the discovery of cancer during treatment, albeit not prostate cancer. Despite health setbacks, Charles remained committed to fulfilling his constitutional duties, with Camilla deputizing for him during his recovery period at various public engagements, underscoring the resilience of the monarchy under his reign.
Charles III became king of the United Kingdom upon the death of his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, in September 2022, marking the end of his record-breaking tenure as the longest-serving heir apparent. His accession was followed by a televised proclamation ceremony and his coronation at Westminster Abbey in May 2023. Throughout his reign, Charles and Queen Camilla engaged in state visits and received dignitaries, showcasing the monarchy's diplomatic role. However, health challenges arose in early 2024 when Charles underwent a procedure for benign prostate enlargement, revealing the presence of non-prostate cancer. Despite this setback, Charles remained committed to his duties, with Queen Camilla deputizing for him at public events during his recovery.Thoughts? 109.255.211.6 ( talk) 12:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
I read "Significant events in his reign have included his coronation in 2023, and his cancer diagnosis the following year, the latter of which temporarily suspended planned public engagements." I suggest to (factually) say hat he and his wife were crowned, then what he did, then that he was diagnosed and not participating in public functions. To claim that the two "significant events" were two where he was passive seems unfair ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
But this article says:
I would write it like this:
To say that someone is "King of the Kingdom of Somewhere" rather than just that he is "King of Somewhere" is redundant. Michael Hardy ( talk) 17:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Last April, I added that the King's approval rating was about 55 per cent. One year later, they now show it at 58 per cent. I think it should be updated.
Source: [1] StrawWord298944 ( talk) 21:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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I kindly suggest that the attached photo be added to the King's media and public perception section. The image depicts him opening the Sandton Hilton in South Africa with CEO Peter George, approximately two months after Princess Diana died. Prince Harry was also present at this event, but is not pictured.
Szeremeta ( talk) 17:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Note: The requestor has disclosed COI with Peter George (businessman). See Special:PermanentLink/1221607498 for more details. Melmann 23:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi,
My change to include "Head of the Commonwealth" as a separate section in the infobox was reverted. I think this is a good change as it seems strange for being head of the Commonwealth to be the first thing mentioned in the infobox. It also seems to go against the point of the title field, which is to display the "Principal substantive title(s) in use". I don't think being head of the Commonwealth is the principal title of Charles III.
I also think including it separately may be worth it for Charles and not the other monarchs, as the independence of the role is much greater. I don't think there was any doubt Elizabeth II would be Head of the Commonwealth, but there was such a discussion and a decision at CHOGM 2018 to choose Charles.
If a separate reign section isn't supported, I would still support removing Head of the Commonwealth from the title field and moving it to a separate footnote next to Commonwealth realms, like " King of the United Kingdom and other Commonwealth realm, and Head of the Commonwealth(footnote=Independently chosen at CHOGM 2018) Safes007 ( talk) 04:39, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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We have multiple articles about paintings of Elizabeth II. So far this one by Jonathan Yeo is the first of the new king to receive significant media attention. Does it deserve an article? Robin S. Taylor ( talk) 22:11, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
I believe it is quite polite and better suitable to use His Royal Majesty's official portrait as text-box picture, since it is the first thing you see upon entering the page, it would be just like his mother & predecessor's Wikipedia page, HRM Elizabeth II. Salesz ( talk) 22:51, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Maybe someone can make a mention about his wealth? he's officially richer than the Queen maybe because he inherited some of her wealth? I don't know. There is a source.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/entertainment/king-charles-iii-wealthier-than-queen-elizabeth-monarchs-fortune-soars-770-million 139.130.234.94 ( talk) 08:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
In 2023 The Guardian estimated Charles's personal wealth at £1.8 billion." So not sure how it has now "soared to £770 million." Martinevans123 ( talk) 14:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)