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Suggest changing Polish to Polish-born, as the article provides no clues why he was an ethnic Pole, except being born in Poland. Not to mention non-Polish name and surname. Is it because sources say he was Polish? Brandmeister talk 08:39, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
There is no mention or source of how he died. As a FA merely citing "After 1800" is insufficient". Lihaas ( talk) 01:43, 12 October 2015 (UTC) ha
How did this get to be an FA in the first place? 16k and six para body doesn't cut it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.10.240.68 ( talk) 01:50, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
His birthplace is given as "Benche" in all sources, but no town of that name exists in Poland, and it may be a misspelling in an early report which has been perpetuated) is based on a suggestion from, er, you (my original query to you is here, if anyone reading wants both halves of the conversation). Per my comments at the time, I strongly suspect his name is a French transcription of some variant on "Karol Damir", and that Dickens's "Domerz" is just a straightforward printers' error substituting Z for Y (which would have been next to each other in a 19th-century printer's font) which because of Dickens's popularity, entered the mainstream, but that's too far over the line into original research to include.
Regarding his nationality, this case is well documented ( Jan Bondeson—or at least his publisher—has an unfortunate habit of giving his books sensationalist-sounding titles, but he's a perfectly well-respected medical historian). As Angr says above we can only reflect the sources, and every source describes him as either "Polish" or "a Pole". Since the First Partition had already taken place at the time of his birth, and we don't know exactly where he was born, it's not appropriate to use any form of wording that implies he was a Polish citizen as opposed to being of Polish ethnicity. ‑ iridescent 08:59, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Almost everything known about Domery comes from a 1799 account in the Medical and Physical Journal, written by Dr. Johnston, based largely upon information provided by Dr. Cochrane. This was reprinted in The Eccentric Mirror, which is cited in the article; the original could be cited and linked, and the heavy reliance on this account could be made explicit. An 1870 account in the Observer, reprinted in various other newspapers, refers to Domery as "a native of Broche, on the frontiers of Poland." I no more know of Broche than I know of Benche (not that I would know necessarily), and it is likely that this was just an error introduced by the Observer, but it is also possible that Broche is correct and Benche the error. John M Baker ( talk) 14:51, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
While I share all the concerns above, the problem is that if no sources cast doubt on this story, neither can we - it would be OR for us to say that it is probably a tall tale, stereotypical, or such. However, what we can and should do is to point out (at least in the footnote, and perhaps in a dedicated sources section) that this is based on 19th century sources (or one source, primarily). What User:John M Baker wrote in the opening of this section, with minor formatting, seems like a very good footnote to me.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:35, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Domerz's nationality (ethnicity), would not be an issue if he won the Nobel Prize in medicine or physiology. Unfortunately he's cited as having eaten 174 cats (and quite a few rats). Therefore, he couldn't possibly be Polish. Dr. Dan ( talk) 18:43, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't take such efforts for granted. Thank you to all the editors and reviewers who worked so hard to create a great article. You deserve appreciation and applause for your efforts. Best Regards,
There is a missing title error at the article (Missing or empty |title= ). How to fix it? LuCkY talk 17:12, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
This suffers from the same problems as Tarrare, and has only an even less relevant image of a ship where Domery happened to once be. Like Tarrare, if the issues of poor comprehensiveness and media exposure aren't fixed within two to three weeks, this might have to be taken at FAR and be demoted from being an FA.
– John M Wolfson ( talk • contribs) 20:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
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Suggest changing Polish to Polish-born, as the article provides no clues why he was an ethnic Pole, except being born in Poland. Not to mention non-Polish name and surname. Is it because sources say he was Polish? Brandmeister talk 08:39, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
There is no mention or source of how he died. As a FA merely citing "After 1800" is insufficient". Lihaas ( talk) 01:43, 12 October 2015 (UTC) ha
How did this get to be an FA in the first place? 16k and six para body doesn't cut it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.10.240.68 ( talk) 01:50, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
His birthplace is given as "Benche" in all sources, but no town of that name exists in Poland, and it may be a misspelling in an early report which has been perpetuated) is based on a suggestion from, er, you (my original query to you is here, if anyone reading wants both halves of the conversation). Per my comments at the time, I strongly suspect his name is a French transcription of some variant on "Karol Damir", and that Dickens's "Domerz" is just a straightforward printers' error substituting Z for Y (which would have been next to each other in a 19th-century printer's font) which because of Dickens's popularity, entered the mainstream, but that's too far over the line into original research to include.
Regarding his nationality, this case is well documented ( Jan Bondeson—or at least his publisher—has an unfortunate habit of giving his books sensationalist-sounding titles, but he's a perfectly well-respected medical historian). As Angr says above we can only reflect the sources, and every source describes him as either "Polish" or "a Pole". Since the First Partition had already taken place at the time of his birth, and we don't know exactly where he was born, it's not appropriate to use any form of wording that implies he was a Polish citizen as opposed to being of Polish ethnicity. ‑ iridescent 08:59, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Almost everything known about Domery comes from a 1799 account in the Medical and Physical Journal, written by Dr. Johnston, based largely upon information provided by Dr. Cochrane. This was reprinted in The Eccentric Mirror, which is cited in the article; the original could be cited and linked, and the heavy reliance on this account could be made explicit. An 1870 account in the Observer, reprinted in various other newspapers, refers to Domery as "a native of Broche, on the frontiers of Poland." I no more know of Broche than I know of Benche (not that I would know necessarily), and it is likely that this was just an error introduced by the Observer, but it is also possible that Broche is correct and Benche the error. John M Baker ( talk) 14:51, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
While I share all the concerns above, the problem is that if no sources cast doubt on this story, neither can we - it would be OR for us to say that it is probably a tall tale, stereotypical, or such. However, what we can and should do is to point out (at least in the footnote, and perhaps in a dedicated sources section) that this is based on 19th century sources (or one source, primarily). What User:John M Baker wrote in the opening of this section, with minor formatting, seems like a very good footnote to me.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:35, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Domerz's nationality (ethnicity), would not be an issue if he won the Nobel Prize in medicine or physiology. Unfortunately he's cited as having eaten 174 cats (and quite a few rats). Therefore, he couldn't possibly be Polish. Dr. Dan ( talk) 18:43, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't take such efforts for granted. Thank you to all the editors and reviewers who worked so hard to create a great article. You deserve appreciation and applause for your efforts. Best Regards,
There is a missing title error at the article (Missing or empty |title= ). How to fix it? LuCkY talk 17:12, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
This suffers from the same problems as Tarrare, and has only an even less relevant image of a ship where Domery happened to once be. Like Tarrare, if the issues of poor comprehensiveness and media exposure aren't fixed within two to three weeks, this might have to be taken at FAR and be demoted from being an FA.
– John M Wolfson ( talk • contribs) 20:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC)