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This is a valid topic, but a fragmented discussion. We have better content at
Celts.
If an article focussed on this topic is to be written, it should be merged with the
Pre-Celtic page (where this title originally redirected to). --
dab(𒁳) 08:42, 23 October 2011 (UTC)reply
An authority, and a very controversial one; the current text has hardly anything to do with the topics covered in the 2nd link. I can't read the first. As it is the current page is wholly unsatisfactory.
Johnbod (
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Cunliffe did not use the term Celticization in The Ancient Celts so I have removed the attribution and statement, so it remains unsourced except for Koch's explicit use of the term in Celtic From The West 2 which is specific to his proposed formation of proto-Celtic by adoption of para-Celtic dialects by speakers of a p-less language such as Iberian or Basque with the consequent dropping of the 'p' in the adopted dialect. I have read the book and can provide page references should we decide to merge the existing content with another page as suggested and use this page for outlining a referenced use of this term.
Jembana (
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Some of the existing statements are controversial, e.g. about the Adriatic Veneti, see Simms-Williams work on Venetic for instance which actually implies the reverse of what is stated on this page.
Jembana (
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Found one reference to 'Celticization' on page 70 of The Ancient Celts by Cunliffe but this depicts the idea as being a bit of a stretch:
"One might even go so far as to argue that the Golasecca culture underwent a degree of 'Celticization' during this period"
We now know from studies of the Lepontic inscriptions and continuity of culture in the area that this culture was a Celtic branch in its own right. This is the only reference I found in the purported source for this page's opening statement and it appears to be an outdated idea in the context.
Jembana (
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One can (rightly) happenupon “pre-Celtic” but never the likewis ‘pre-Gaulish’
“Pre-Celtic” is very much alive in English but is there any word akin to ‘pre-Gaulish’ in French (or English). One gets the feeling there is somehow not.
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This is a valid topic, but a fragmented discussion. We have better content at
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If an article focussed on this topic is to be written, it should be merged with the
Pre-Celtic page (where this title originally redirected to). --
dab(𒁳) 08:42, 23 October 2011 (UTC)reply
An authority, and a very controversial one; the current text has hardly anything to do with the topics covered in the 2nd link. I can't read the first. As it is the current page is wholly unsatisfactory.
Johnbod (
talk) 02:40, 5 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Cunliffe did not use the term Celticization in The Ancient Celts so I have removed the attribution and statement, so it remains unsourced except for Koch's explicit use of the term in Celtic From The West 2 which is specific to his proposed formation of proto-Celtic by adoption of para-Celtic dialects by speakers of a p-less language such as Iberian or Basque with the consequent dropping of the 'p' in the adopted dialect. I have read the book and can provide page references should we decide to merge the existing content with another page as suggested and use this page for outlining a referenced use of this term.
Jembana (
talk) 05:39, 6 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Some of the existing statements are controversial, e.g. about the Adriatic Veneti, see Simms-Williams work on Venetic for instance which actually implies the reverse of what is stated on this page.
Jembana (
talk) 05:59, 6 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Found one reference to 'Celticization' on page 70 of The Ancient Celts by Cunliffe but this depicts the idea as being a bit of a stretch:
"One might even go so far as to argue that the Golasecca culture underwent a degree of 'Celticization' during this period"
We now know from studies of the Lepontic inscriptions and continuity of culture in the area that this culture was a Celtic branch in its own right. This is the only reference I found in the purported source for this page's opening statement and it appears to be an outdated idea in the context.
Jembana (
talk) 11:23, 6 October 2013 (UTC)reply
One can (rightly) happenupon “pre-Celtic” but never the likewis ‘pre-Gaulish’
“Pre-Celtic” is very much alive in English but is there any word akin to ‘pre-Gaulish’ in French (or English). One gets the feeling there is somehow not.